 Coming up, India flies a suborbital miniature space plane. A new habitat expands at the space station. And Geary T says he'd miss Amazon Prime most if he was living on Mars. Stay tuned, tomorrow begins right now! And welcome to tomorrow, episode 9.19 for Saturday, May 28th, 2016. My name is Benjamin Higginbotham. I'll be joined by the rest of the crew in just a moment. But before that happens, I want to give a huge shout out to all of the patrons of tomorrow who have dropped to make this specific segment of this episode happen. These are the people who have contributed ten dollars or more to this episode. We are Crowdfunded Show, and if you'd like to find out how you can help crowdfund the shows of tomorrow, head on over to patreon.com slash T-M-R-O. Alright, I'm joined by Space Mike, sitting on the TV. And we've also got my beautiful, lovely, wonderful and talented wife, Carrie Ann, sitting to my left. Yep. I feel like I'm in trouble for no reason. Alright, let's go ahead and wait for a reason. Let's go ahead and get started with some space news. First up, India flies a demonstration space plane. Check this out. I should say that's on a solid stage on the bottom. So it kind of just lifts right off the pad and off into space it goes. Well, actually not space, suborbital space. That happened Monday, May 23rd at 01.30, Coordinated Universal Time. That was the Reusable Launch Vehicle Technology Demonstrator, or RLVTD. As I mentioned, that actually did not go to space. That went up to 65 kilometers, which is about 40 miles or so over the Bay of Bengal. And it's testing heat shield guidance, navigation and control, so kind of their GNC systems as well as reentry systems for a future much larger version of this particular vehicle. It went up to about Mach 5, obviously, for an orbital vehicle to be going quite a bit faster. That bottom stage is a PSLV, that's the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle, HS9 Solid Rocket Booster. So it's actually just kind of a single booster that they strapped this little miniature, I call it miniature, it's still pretty big, space plane onto. And yeah, it just kind of went, it was like a 12 and a half minute mission. It wasn't designed to be recovered, so it just splashed down. I think, wouldn't it be cool if Jeff Bezos went out and decided to recover that? That'd be kind of neat. But yeah, it was a successful mission. There were no onboard engines on this particular one, but the full size model will have engines. It'll be a reusable launcher with two stages. It'll have air-breathing engines. It'll have conventional rocket thrusters. So the full version of this is going to be like a closer to what you'd think like the US Space Shuttle was. It'd probably be a different thing. Unfortunately... Smaller. Well, this one's a lot smaller. No, that one was a lot smaller, but that was a subscale model. No, I, yeah. Right. Unfortunately, them getting to where they need to be, because this was the first test. It was like successful, or A test was successful. Awesome. It's going to still take them about 15 years to get to the full size vehicle, but it was still really cool. And actually, Mike, you did a space pod on that. Is that correct? Yes, I did. And one correction I wanted to make is I had incorrectly gotten misunderstood that the name being called for Swadeshi, all that means is indigenous or locally built. So that's not the name of it. A lot of the Indian media was calling it Swadeshi to, you know, kind of point out that it was built locally in India. So, but it doesn't have a name. There's another space-pending project called Avatar, which is a separate government project, but those air-breathing engines you talked about are kind of also going to be used with that project. So there's kind of a lot of different programs that are crossing paths with this program. So it's really cool though, and I'm very excited for their progress on this. Their next big step is building a runway so that they can recover the next launch that they have. They can turn it around and glide it back to a runway, but they don't have anything long enough or big enough near the launch site that would be able to receive it. So that's the next big step. Both of us kind of just glossed over air-breathing engines, but that's not really normal in a rocket, right? No. Is this right? Like an air-breathing engine? Is this closer to the Saber engine that they're building for Skylon, or is this something totally different where it's just going to use gaseous oxygen to combust with the fuel? Or do we not? I'm not exactly sure. They're calling it a scramjet engine, but also an air-breathing engine, and I'm assuming that it is similar to the ways that the Saber engine works, that it would use the oxidizer from the air to ignite its propellant. But I need to look a little bit more closely on that, and I didn't delve too much into that with the space pod talking about this project that they've already done one successful test flight of just a scramjet engine on top of a similar type of solid rocket that we saw this launch use. And so there's a lot of different progress that they have with that. And of course here in the United States, there's lots of different work, the most recent one being the WaveWriter program where we have varying levels of success. Right now we're kind of trying to push the speed envelope with that, but if it works, then it would be a very, very good engine to use and definitely better than just the regular old jet engines that were on the Buron space shuttle. I do love these space shuttles for no good reason. The US space shuttle was neat. Again, I'm glad it retired, but it was pretty neat. I'm a huge fan of the... Buron vehicle? Nope. Okay. The Skylon? Dream Chaser, thank you. Dream Chaser. Obviously, I'm its number one fan. I can't even understand. No, I'm a huge fan of... Lynx. Yeah, Dream Chaser, and actually that was going to bring me to Lynx, which was, it's not in our show notes, but it sounds like for those who are kind of reading, I don't want to call this breaking news, but it's starting to come out over the last couple of days or so, it sounds like X-Corps is winding down operations on the Lynx suborbital spacecraft. X-Corps itself, it was originally presented to me as X-Corps is going away. That's not true. X-Corps is going to be concentrating on their engine for United Launch Alliance or their engine work for ULA, and ULA or the DOD, they're going to be concentrating on their engines and not concentrating on the Lynx, and that's really sad because I kind of like the Lynx. We were all cheering for it, and for a while there, it looked like the Lynx may actually beat the Spaceship 2 into a suborbital space. But yeah, yeah, so there you go. A quasi-update on X-Corps. All right, next up, we have a Soyuz launch that happened Tuesday, May 24th at 0848 Coordinated Universal Time. I wouldn't normally keep that much of it in there, but the pre-light sequence for the Soyuz is so long and so awesome, yeah. Like I said, that was Tuesday, May 24th. This is for a couple of Galileo satellites. It's going to help put the multi-billion-dollar Galileo constellation system into limited service later this year. This has been going on for a long time. This particular launch is going to be adding Galileo satellites 13 and 14. However, the constellation requires 24 satellites for unimpeded operation. The whole constellation, when it's all said and done, is actually slated to have about 30 satellites. There are four more spacecraft or satellites scheduled to be launched this year, which is going to bring us from 14 up to 18. Then in 2017, we've got four additional satellites, which brings us up to 22. And then 2018, four more, which brings us up to 26, which brings the system up to fully operational. Then they're going to continue to launch a few more, which brings them to the full capacity. Those extra satellites are for when you lose something, and I think of them as spare satellites, so to speak. The service for civilians is going to have an accuracy of about one meter, which for those of the United States is about three feet. And to compare that to what you're used to now, that would be the U.S. gullible positioning system. The civilian service for that is accurate to about four meters or 13 feet. So quite a bit more accurate. That would be kind of awesome for autonomous cars and whatnot, where they need to get a better accuracy reading. You know exactly which lane they're sitting in. So yeah, good job there. And Space Mike, I think we have some other launches that happened this week as well. Yes, yes. A launch that was supposed to happen on Thursday, but actually happened on Friday. We have a very awesome Falcon 9 launch, which delivered the Tycom-8 satellite into orbit. We have the launch footage. Three, two, one, zero. Lift off of the Falcon 9. Falcon 9, just go to the towers. You see, we just set you to 10.59 to secure the bed. This launch occurred on Friday, May 27th at 2139 Coordinated Universal Time from Cape Canaveral, Florida at Space Launch Complex 40. And the launch slipped by one day due to a glitch in the upper stage engines. One of its actuators had some sort of unspecified problem. And this mission was a geostationary transfer orbit mission, sending the Tycom-8 satellite into a geosynchronous orbit. The first stage booster did land successfully on the autonomous spaceport drone ship. Of course, I still love you. It was the third landing in a row at sea. We have some footage of that a little later that we're going to check out. But the Tycom-8 satellite is a communication satellite that is going to be increasing the Hong Kong-based communications there. And with this, the second stage successfully delivered that satellite into a high transfer orbit of 56,000 miles or 90,000 kilometers. And with a perigee or a low point of 124 miles or 250 kilometers. And with this, the Tycom-8 satellite, which is based on Orbital ATK's Geostar-2 spacecraft, will steer into a circular geostationary orbit over the coming weeks using its own onboard thruster to move into orbit. That's a circular at about 22,300 miles or 35,700 kilometers over the equator. And with this mission, it was very cool that we had a very successful launch and there was definitely different phases where the crowd cheered where they got through the maximum dynamic pressure and also for the landing, which this, in my opinion, is the best landing footage we have ever seen. Check this out. This is the first stage of the Falcon 9 rocket all the way from its flip and all the way through its reentry through the atmosphere and landing on the first stage barge. And just incredible. You can see the different fogging of the lenses as it goes through the atmosphere and just watch. It's just incredible. And touchdown. Just amazing footage. It's so great to finally see the entire phase all the way from its maneuver to flip around to landing. It's a huge congratulations to everyone over at SpaceX who made this mission successful and congratulations to the people who made this amazing footage possible. Yeah, it was pretty awesome. I do want to point out a couple of things if I can. When you looked at that initial launch footage, Dada, can you go back and play the launch footage again? Just mute the audio for me, though. Just the initial launch. I get comments on this quite a bit. I normally don't say... All right, so awesome. We're lifting off the pad. Here's a camera, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, let's wait for it to go one camera wider. So this camera we're about to go to, this one right here, this one that's shaking here, that's like three miles away. And that's actually not wind shaking it. That's Falcon shaking this camera from about three miles away. And so when Falcon comes back and lands on the drone ship, you can see it, there you go, it's shaking. Everyone's like, well, what's going on? Well, what's happening is you're shaking the satellite dishes and you lose connection for a moment. So we have to wait for that payload to come back and then it kind of jumps. And that's what's going on there. And, you know, yeah, so I'll leave that part at that. Engines are powerful, they shake things. Engines are powerful, they shake things. And the other comment I constantly get is you should get better microphones so that you can hear over the cheering. You can't. You can't hear over the cheering. It's impossible. You have to shout to hear yourself over the cheering. People are that excited. So as far as I know, people are loud. Everyone's excited, it's a really cool thing. We learned things today. Engines are powerful, they shake things. Engines are powerful, they shake things. All right, moving along. Did you have more space, Mike? I'm sorry, I kind of cut you off. No, no, no, moving along. All right, so Orbital ATK actually bringing them up again has proposed a new heavy launcher and this is not it. So they did not have, you know what, I'm going to show something and this is the old Liberty rocket which is why if you're looking at it going I kind of recognize it but I kind of don't. Yeah, that's Liberty. This is dubbed, the new rocket will be dubbed the next generation launcher for now at least. It's going to offer the U.S. Air Force a third option over United Launch Alliance and SpaceX which are currently the only two certified companies to launch for the Air Force. This will be a three stage rocket. The first stage is two solid fuels on the Caster 600 segment. The next stage is also a solid fuel core. It's actually a single solid stage segment called the Caster 300 is basically just one section of the 600 and those solid rocket stages are a lot like the boosters that you saw on the space shuttle except that instead of using steel they're actually going to use a carbon composite a composite case which is going to be quite a bit lighter. They're also using steel on the space launch system so it's going to be lighter than what they have for both the five segment booster on the space launch system and for the space shuttle. The third stage is a cryogenic third stage that's going to use liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen and they're going to use an engine from Blue Origin derived from the BE3U so that's going to be kind of that's the sub orbital engine they're using on their New Horizons New Shepard New Shepard rocket. This vehicle also support up to six strap-on solid rocket but it's not a lot of solid fuel all at once firing all at once that thing is just going to just BOOSH right off the pad you blink it will be gone I don't, yeah that will be gone it's going to be a lot like the Japanese vehicle yes the basic version with no solid rocket motors can put about 5.5 metric tons into geotransfer orbit here's the thing all that's really cool it's really cool to have a third option more rockets being built this kind of renaissance of next generation rockets except for the one little statement that kind of puts a little bit of a damper on it which is Orbital ATK will only go forward with this new rocket development if it's assured of Air Force funding support which yeah there's giggling in the background right so if you're in order to build your rocket you have to rely on government funding I might argue that maybe you should go back to the drawing board and figure out how to do it without government funding and then if you can add government funding in to bolster it that's awesome but if your entire business case requires government funding to build it I don't know but once we build it then we'll find a reason to have it thank you Space Launch System yeah once once we build it then we can find something to make it do I mean but there is government payload that you put on it I get that part and you know they want to minimize their and I think the whole deal with that too is the whole reason they're even starting development on this and it's a whole different design than the old Liberty rocket it's more similar to the Athena rocket what I've never heard of the Castor 300 or 600 before and I'm thinking that might be like a single segment and a two segment version of the shuttle solid rocket that's going to be boosted with these new tanks but with this the whole getting the production started and getting everything initially started is mostly funded by a new Air Force contract and there's a whole argument in between the House of Representatives and the Senate as to whether to honor that contract and continue to give that money to Orbital ATK to get everything started for that and if they don't get the money for it they lose a lot of their profits to fulfill getting the manufacturing started for that so once that whole legal battle is decided we'll see whether or not this rocket will come about or not I doubt that they would try to risk bankrupting themselves to getting this started if there isn't a customer for it especially if they get banned from doing the EELV or something like that Well in the chat room Dan TC24 in the chat room says if you're getting the dependents on government funding this isn't Lockheed Martin or Boeing's business plan but this isn't Lockheed Martin or Boeing this is Orbital ATK and Mike you make a valid point that you don't want to bank up yourself to just build a rocket for someone else but you should have a solid business plan in case the government doesn't want to come in there are other customers other than the US government there are other business opportunities there so you don't just have to do it for the government if they're only building it for the government then yeah I guess but they basically stated although I didn't state it for commercial launches so if it's going to be for both commercial launches and for government in my humble opinion it should be able to stand on its own and they shouldn't require taxpayer dollars in order to fund their rocket to pay for then consumer launches that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me Well in the chat room it says solids only so it's not likely man rated Human rated it's not solid only remember there is the third stage which does use liquids remember the space shuttle was human rated as well and it used solid motors on either side and one can make some arguments about the challenger disasters whether that was a problem with the solid or not or that was a process problem but yeah I mean you could probably human rated you gotta figure out solids have a a certain acoustical they're bumpy we'll put it that way they shake a lot so you need to you need to protect some of that vibe from the astronauts but totally doable the aries one was going to be a mostly solid vehicle yeah helldusk actually points out aries one was to be human rated as well yeah exactly right so it's possible it's difficult but it's possible everyone hates on solids for some reason solids have a good solids have a useful point like let the engineers figure out where to put it and they can actually do some pretty cool things with it just don't force them to use it yeah absolutely moving along Mike beam yes so some very exciting news so bigelow aerospace has a small bigelow expandable activity module which was launched back on April 8th with the CRS 8 mission and they have begun the expansion process and on Thursday May 26th they didn't make a whole lot of process the structure didn't grow as predicted when they began to flow air into it and NASA had to hold off trying to expand the module further after receiving a set of no go conditions and not seeing any noticeable movement with this so NASA tried again today Saturday May 28th and has gotten a much better results and the beam expanded at a really nice pace especially near the end when they did several large series of bursts that were a lot longer than the previous one second burst before and with the module it reached the 68 inches in length and the manual part of this expansion process is over which saw astronaut Jeff Williams manually operating the controls to pump air into the beam and carefully following instructions from mission control in Houston and now the beam has reached the 68 inches in length the rest of the expansion process can be automated and they've already pressurized the module so it's internal pressure is the same as the rest of the international space station so I'm not exactly sure when they're going to proceed they literally got the pressurization just minutes before we started our live show today so it's great though that they were successfully able to get to this point and that everyone was nervous on Thursday when it didn't inflate or expand as it was expected that this might not work and Bigelow himself said in a press conference the next day that the module had been in storage for a very long time due to the CRS-7's untimely demise last year and so with being in storage for so long that might have been the cause why it was very stiff so to speak when they first tried to inflate it but everything is working well now and we're going to keep moving forward with it and they'll be able to open up the hatches and set up all the sensors and continue with this whole technology demonstration mission so very, very great news. We'll be seeing that the crew will go in next month and Space Cadet 88 actually said earlier that beam was expanded and pressurized as of 4.44pm EDT so thank you chat room for all of the info. It's going to be 2045 coordinated universal time so cool. Mike why don't we go ahead and do that last story. Sure so there is a Delta IV heavy launch that has been postponed it's only been postponed by a day but this is for the secretive excuse me, NROL 37 not much is known about the spacecraft but we have the Delta heavy which is sitting on the pad right now there was some sort of unspecified anomaly with the payload and apparently though officials are saying that the rocket and the payload are healthy and this is going it was scheduled to launch on June 3rd and it's been pushed back to June 4th and the whole thing about this is everything hopefully goes well because the Delta IV in all of its configurations is going to need to be a workhorse for United Launch Alliance until all of the Atlas V drama is resolved and the Vulcan rocket comes online. Now the next Atlas V launch is scheduled to take place on June 24th and if all of the issues have been resolved with the first stage engine where they won't see a repeat of the early shutdown like the main engines did on the Cygnus mission then they'll be able to proceed with the Atlas V launches and use up their remaining inventory of RD-180 engines until even more legal process has gone through to allow how many engines they can use just for regular commercial launches and what they can use for national security payloads so hopefully everything goes well with that and I just want to quickly mention that I mentioned back in April that they are giving away free rides of CubeSats on their Atlas V launches excuse me and I do believe they're going to be having integrated payloads for their Delta launches as well they already have a few small ones that were used on the Delta 2 but for the Delta 4 they're working on new ones for that but there is a recent competition if you are a college university or a K-12 student the most recent round for three more slots is ending on June 1st so if you want to compete in that then we're going to have some links and in fact I'll even post that in the chat room so that you guys can get a link to that and we'll probably have that in the description for the video so that would be really cool to get a free ride for a CubeSat especially if you have one built already and I think it's just awesome that the company is doing that and there will be a lot more in the future as well. Put that link in the rundown for me so I don't forget to put it into the description I have it in the rundown let me get it in the chat room we'll all wait collectively while you do that boom there you go that was way faster than I thought it was going to be alright we're going to take a quick break and back we're going to be talking about hashtag MarsLifestyle how would you describe this? 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meat of any sort what are some of the things like Space Mike will start with you actually first off space bike given an opportunity to do a roundtrip to Mars would you go yeah absolutely a roundtrip to Mars absolutely roundtrip we're talking roundtrip alright so now you're doing your roundtrip it's still a two year thing what are you going to miss on your two years I probably the thing that I would miss the most would be fast internet mm-hmm mm-hmm it would be several years you know if it was a roundtrip then I probably would never see that but if it was a one-way trip it would be many many years before I would have you know anywhere near the type of bandwidth that I would hear on earth when I left earth yeah I mean we could basically build a backup of the internet on Mars it wouldn't be as real alright there have to be like two independent internet so that then like data dump back to each other I could just have like yeah if I could just have a hard drive and if like all the big like television companies could like send me like a small files like in a return capsule like every couple of years and I just have like all the next like five seasons of Game of Thrones that I missed or whatever so space man what you're saying is what you'll miss most on Mars is Game of Thrones that's it that's that's somewhere in the entertainment list yes alright Marianne what would you miss most on Mars you know I don't go outside much so I'm not really sure that I would miss you're not going to miss nature those no not really going to miss nature at all I know I probably should trying to kill you it is it is so it's space to be fair Mars particularly also Mars is trying to kill you I you know guy you guys know me I think I'm much more social I think I would miss my my friends and family and I'd be very very sick of whoever I got stuck on Mars with probably me I mean pretty much yeah exactly so yeah no but I think those sort of relationships and trying to keep those relationships up somebody in the chat room I think it was Craig VG said Internet is faster on Mars than I have in my own house right now yeah they have the new Internet is faster for Mars rovers than I have in my house right now yeah so so there's that yeah I didn't I don't know to we could say that he'd miss the people from Mars one hey oh hahaha hahaha the chat rooms bring a lot of things like the sounds like just nature sounds sort of in general what like green if you like the color green you probably don't want to go yeah and bring your own green yeah green and blue well the sky would still with the sky not appear blue in certain spots yeah the sky is still blue yeah so you still see blue you wouldn't see green every day astronaut immediately said flying kites every day astronaut when is the last time you were flying a kite slash I have a new photo idea for you hahaha actually it's two photos I think one is every day astronaut in the astronaut get up like flying a kite because that would be two and two right next to it would be same astronaut same get up but with the kite like plop yes just sad on Mars obviously plop on Mars right yeah absolutely that's funny yeah you know Darth Draco says I'd miss my comfortable bed what if you could bring your bed with you though I guess yeah I mean but wait right so creature comfort is really what it comes down to I think so all right giving these things that you'd miss would you still go right you know that you're gonna you're not gonna be actually space mic just to upset you we're gonna send you to Mars right before the very last episode of Game of Thrones hahaha you'll be able to see that last episode for years I don't know I think I'll still be able to pirate it like on my way out before I'm out of out of reach of the signals no just kidding would you would you still go would you I mean oh yeah absolutely absolutely I mean especially if it was a round trip and I could come home someday because so I don't know if it's not around trip you're out it's I I would be in if it's if it's a one way trip as long as I could have the tools with me to build the creature comforts that I eventually would want to have to be able to expand out big greenhouses to be able to have a lot of the food that I would miss a lot of the fruits and vegetables that I would miss and you know just doing crazy stuff like who knows like maybe even bring like some sort of like I'm sure there'd be all sorts of people who would protested this but bringing along like embryos of animals or something like that once you have like a large enough indoor or underground facilities like maybe even start raising some animals for all sorts of different purposes you know dogs would be number one on the list for me geez but you know if I could bring the tools to build those things wait wait that's not to eat that's to have a pet wow yeah that's just a pet but yeah I would I would definitely start growing animals to eat as well you know start growing you know you know the whole menu the whole menu you know do all of that if you know it the logistics you know would make sense and everything if I could bring the tools with me to make those creature comforts even if I wasn't the one to enjoy them I would go for a one-way trip so the two if you just bring a 3d printer you think that's something that can print metal right some dns direct laser metal direct metal laser centering whatever it is I get those two inverted direct laser metal centering if you have that you can 3d print metal parts is that all you need or are you you need do you need animal no I mean I need simple ones to you know of course you need the stuff for simple materials and you know something to that would be able to use all of the material that's there I mean it might be as simple as using the Martian dirt to create some sort of Martian Adobe bricks to you know create the first kind of coverings over expandable habitats or something like that and you know using as much of the resources that we have there's possible and being able to not just to you know create you know advanced metal structures but really find delicate structures as well I need to be able to build the circuitry you know if I'm building new rovers or new robots to you know help mine resources or whatever purpose that that might come up you know things that we haven't even foreseen right now so you need all all types and and I don't I don't even know the scope of what all would be needed but definitely just just the just the 3d printers and the direct metal lasering centers that we that we would need would be a pretty heavy payload just right off the bat so but pretty important I think I think it might be worth the worth the weight Space Cadet 88 says I think it missed the rain were you the one that you didn't say you'd miss nature no I wouldn't miss nature no but I mean so all right you want to do that comment because I'm not sure I understand that one I'm from Arizona we only get rain twice a year anyway I'll say you used to it you're ready I've worked for now from Los Angeles so we get rain nuns a year never we get a light drizzle maybe Zachman 4321 says you say you miss nature but you have a shirt on that shows is tariff for Mars I actually don't think I would miss nature honestly all that much but I guess I don't really know if I don't go out into it at all but I am wearing a shirt showing a tariff for Mars I suppose once we get to the point that's not happening in your lifetime though no no no it's it's it's not it's not but say for instance you freeze me for eons apparently until we get to the tariff for Mars I mean I bet we're a couple hundred years I don't think it's eons I think a hundred yeah even if we did the fast route and did like one of the nuclear explosions on the poles or crashing comets into it on purpose and stuff like that that's still like you know a 60 80 year process to see if it'll even retain in the atmosphere so might live that long but probably wouldn't see the final result you can't just do the star trekking version and just have it kind of do the whole thing all at once no that's not a thing the Genesis weapon yes exactly Dada wants to know Space Mike would cows be leaner or fatter than an earth cow on Mars well I mean I guess that depends on how much you feed them they'd probably be like leaner you know and they'd probably like even the big adults would be like as a sensitive as like veal or something like that so and you probably have that probably be disgusting that'd be a great export right be like you know export my Martian cow and just charge a premium on earth for Martian cow oh yeah Mars jerky Mars jerky that would be amazing yeah I'm all over that actually lab gourmet has come quite a ways and I know that sounds really disgusting when you say it that way but lab gourmet in general has come really far if we could recreate something like that I think I'd be pretty good on that I would miss bacon though I don't there's not really good other than that seaweed that we still have to try that there's that kind of thing what are some of the things that you would love on Mars that you can't do on earth oh man the less gravity being able to jump super high and being able to like have super strength so to speak at least for a little while until my body adapts would you put a cape on on the outside of your yes that's a given on the outside of my space suit right every day I have another photo idea for you what would you be the number one thing that you think you would enjoy on Mars I don't know I think ironically because I don't do the whole nature thing out here I would probably try to go out and climb something just to say that I had there are some pretty large there's a lot of really weird spots on Mars that I'd want to go to just to get the final word of just like okay is this a rock or is this something crazy the whole thing of whether or not the face on Mars is real or the pyramids of Sidonia or Elysium it's just like are these just mountains or rocks or is this actually something really weird can we silence the conspiracy theorists forever or is this a bigger discussion can we never silence the conspiracy theorists no they'll come up with something else I would like to go and sort of find the rovers that have been dusted over oh that'd be cool like out of the Martian when he dusts off those phoenix or something like that I think so yeah it was the it was a lander I don't remember yeah I think I'd like to go out and go see those sorts of things and I think that would be kind of fun and then probably probably put like a, I don't know, probably put my name on a flag or something and sort of mark my territory to a certain extent would you do like the JPL thing just make sure that your boot prints have your name in them so everywhere you walk it says Carrie Ann Carrie Ann that would be amazing and then I think I probably would try to take up some photography and try to somebody in the chat room space vocalist you know the sunrise you know those sort of things yeah I think I'd like to take my own pictures of things imagine the first photos the first like Mars selfies yeah Mars selfies yeah that's going to be pretty awesome selfie sticks are not allowed on the way out though I'm sorry those have been banned already I didn't ask you round trip would you go tickets paid for round trip would you go you can say oh you're looking at me like I'm evil I how about this if and or when I'm still healthy enough to go at that point but it's that it's a routine sort of thing sure you want to get it to and I want to be the first I don't want to be the second halfway safe and they've worked out all the kinks right then yeah yeah I think I would would you prefer not do Mars and instead do some sort of sub orbital or orbital light or is it like maybe that's a stepping stone kind of thing you know I don't know I think they're all different in their own way and they all offer a different quite literally perspective on things and so no I think it'd be willing to do more than one thing but again after it becomes a little bit more routine and safe and secure and not scary and I'm not the first right but but all given all those sorts of things going doing a sub orbital thing might be fun and going to the moon and going to Mars it's it's like going to it's like traveling the country right I want to do a sub orbital flight on Mars interesting that would be fun why though I mean it took you you already went through the whole long journey of getting there how cool would it be though to go there and build the rocket yourself it probably wouldn't even need to be that big it'd be very very dangerous very very small but it'd be fun it'd definitely be a thrill all right all right you just want to you just want to build a rocket for really what it's coming down to yeah all right let's hit some of the comments from the chat room kind of over um let's see uh wow torque made this torque modest I don't know we're gonna go with that says nature isn't necessarily absent on Mars today I suppose not but I mean that's something I don't know and I it would be interesting to experience that part of it but it's not like there's rainforest so there's that whatever Alpha says we will be able to genetically engineer people to live on Mars before we can terraform it uh yeah maybe right maybe I mean I guess we can kind of already genetically engineer people so I guess that's already true although I mean we already know how to terraform Mars so it's just time yeah it's just time all right uh DanTc24 says freeze me for wait for it Elon's hahaha awkward it's good awkward Dan awkward green Jim green Jim will green Jim too right that's what I think for me correctly is what it is I love to learn how to grow plants on Mars I like gardening as well as rockets oh so you want to be another uh what's his name something other than potatoes I imagine a Mark Watney a Watney that was it I just I just watched that on the plane back from uh back from Florida I watched that in the Barista movie and then uh Dennis has got to be careful when you see your home for the first time from Mars it's much harder to wipe your tears away with a face shield on hahaha this is very true this is very true that's uh been my biggest argument for uh moon versus Mars I suppose is that uh we live here in California and our family all of our family really for the most part uh live back in Minnesota and there's no part of California no matter how high I go that I can still see Minnesota and feel as though I have that kind of connection to them however I can be pretty much anywhere on Earth and assuming it's not a completely cloudy night I can look up and I can see the moon just about every night and so if I have family on the moon or if I'm on the moon and I can see Earth there's an instant connection there even if I'm not looking specifically at you know America or North America or even Minnesota or what have you and you don't really although we did the other night you don't really get that chance all that often from Earth to be able to see Mars naked eye or or anything else I just want the studio of tomorrow to be on the moon in a position where we have that permanent Earthrise behind us I think they'd be kind of cool just wobble back and forth a little bit I think they would be pretty awesome Jules Verne said we need to bring some pets to Mars to combat loneliness possibly that's not necessarily a bad idea yeah absolutely but not eat alright we'd love your comments as well with the hashtag Mars lifestyle what would you love on Mars what would be some of the things you would do on Mars you know fairly early on in the process then there'd be a lack of politics to start would there though I mean I feel like that just comes with it you don't really have to worry about fashion too much wouldn't you though everyone's wearing those stupid ugg boots just saying alright as 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the whole thing over start from the beginning I hope everyone's got their astronaut diapers because that's it welcome to tomorrow it should take five sorry we didn't morning about that we're that there you go boom oh wow I didn't catch that I was doing that that was amazing thanks to the chat room again for catching our mistakes alright speaking of mistakes let's go to comments that doesn't work blah blah blah comments the first one comes from YouTube from SideRide that is a great icon I know you always forgive me I'm going to do it one day so we were talking about planetary defense I guess to put things into context suppose the astronaut is definitely coming towards earth regardless if we can stop it or not is there someone we can blame that the astronaut has been detected so late is someone responsible for deflecting it what if we fail the astronaut of the entire thing gets France who will be the French blame for bending their Eiffel Tower and if we're on the subject how will the French feel about depending on the Americans to save them that's an interesting point space has no national boundaries space is for all of humanity although to be fair for non-military space the US spends more than basically the rest of the world combined it's either more than most more than the rest of the world combined so step it up rest of the planet right so who would be a blame if Asteroid comes and hits the Eiffel Tower and France doesn't have a space program to deflect it France is to blame for that if someone goes up is France to blame for that they didn't like do the asteroid dance and hope that the asteroid comes and hits them that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of they're not to blame for that to be fair I'm not going to name any names but the chat room is all like whatever it's the French so you guys are really mean right now that's mean not to blame but they didn't build a space program they didn't work on that problem they can't point to anyone else and be like well you didn't save us you didn't save yourselves I think the question where he was going with that in general is like okay so asteroid's coming is it going to go specifically to France does France go well crap we've got nothing do they turn to somebody else for help is anyone else going to come and try humanity can do some horrible things but we can also do some amazing things and when other humans in bulk like that are at risk that kind of brings out the finest in humans I think and I guarantee you people will come to their aid no questions asked let's not let this happen what the earth takes to prevent this disaster humans will do that and kind of on the opposite side of that same coin if it was something small that would only bend the Eiffel Tower everyone else would probably just be like you're on your own but if it was something big enough that the damage would kind of overlap into other countries or even be a worldwide disaster then absolutely everyone would be getting involved to save themselves as well well it's also a you know if you're only damaging a structure right but if you're killing people like if people are going to die imminently because of an asteroid impacting which is far more likely then yeah humans are going to come to other humans aids we're awesome like that all right moving on next one also comes off of YouTube from Bobbert for him says another benefit of having captured asteroid orbiting the moon is the coolest factor of adding a real life actual honest to goodness second moon that'd be kind of cool what do we call that one then moon 2 what I was looking up the name of our solar system earlier anyone know what it is the solar system solar system you're correct are the name of our solar system is solar system solar system or solar solar system it's solar system the name of our solar system is solar system we're super creative thanks astronomers moon the next one I like that Chris that's funny or just throw it says moon moon the second moon would be moon moon and Chris I think that's better Harrison says moon but spelled M-U-N good job we're talking about the moon or the moon you said to meet me on the moon no the moon there's oodles with the fully accent Mark the moon the moon of course by that time we've habitated both of them so that's why you're calling we still call like this we'll use our hand phones now I'll be there in 10 minutes hand phones next one also comes off of youtube this is from Jack's vid star Jack's vid star Jack's vid is a star I was gonna say how else do you want me to pronounce that could we just have planetary resources space industries just break down an extinction level asteroid for it to benefit humankind instead maybe it depends on a lot of variables there slash I don't think any of them are ready to actually do anything yet so if we found one tomorrow I don't think they could although my understanding is we found one tomorrow we've got two weeks yeah yeah yeah so unfortunately not but hang on if we find one tomorrow we still have Bruce Willis that's true he's not dead yet we're okay it's good point yeah no I yeah I think okay but say say they are at that point then can we just I mean I don't know there really isn't any sort of mandate of saying all right guys you have to go after that asteroid now and can they really mine enough of it for to not be I don't think I don't think it's not moving on it's good thought though also from youtube this one comes from Ted Blackburn great video thanks Ted thank you very much that's a great comment all right I'd love to redirect an entire asteroid to lunar orbit then build a space station out of it all right we'll call it twoon or minnness actually that'd be pretty cool I wonder what the if we did that what the unforeseen consequences of something like that are because we're mucking with the gravity of our our local kind of can we put them on opposite sides yeah what if they have conflicting tides well I mean I'm just saying if it's something massive enough I don't know I'm just going this way and the other one going this way generally generally everything generally with the exception of Venus generally everything spins in one direction this way this way which way's up so yes I wonder I wonder what the like the consequences of putting another gravitational object into our earth-moon system would be someone's probably run those numbers maybe it's nothing I'm just curious as to what it would be moon and mun see we shouldn't have done this when Jared's not here that's the problem right now we have lots of questions for Jared when he gets back you guys threw me under the bus for the impossible drive show and you're like Ben will answer all of it so you know what Jared's going to answer all of our questions can we give our moon a moon like VG in the chat room says give the moon a moon so we can have like two moons and give each one of those a moon right well so the moon does this and then the other one does this I think it's a great idea it's going to make the new moon flag look awesome moon and mun can we do that that way oh goodness the last comic comes show his derail the last comic comes from off of reddit from big B 20,000 sorry it says how plausible is it to have a way of preventing an asteroid impact either in orbit or on the ground on call so we can use it if we get the two weeks notice I mean you know it depends is this like a missile shoot down type of thing because if so then we technically already have that capability we also have that capability because we still have Bruce Willis on call right now so all we need to do is send him up within two weeks on that note you know realistic I mean it depends on what it would take because if you blow up the asteroid let's just say you send missiles to it that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to make it better you can actually make it worse right I mean you can now you can have like more very large objects coming in and impacting the earth 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