 Well, I know you're here, so it must not be the link. Hey, Adele. Hi. I was getting worried that somehow I didn't have the right link to people or something. But Darcy's here. So the truth is that. When I hi Darcy, when I clicked on the link that was in my calendar. Invite. It wouldn't let me talk or it didn't have a visual either. All I could see was you. So I went back. I left the meeting and I went back to the most recent. Reminder use then, and I clicked on that, that, and that's why it worked. So anyway, I don't, I don't know whether that's why, what everybody else is doing. Okay. Well, I hope if people just go with the reminder that was sent. That would work. Yeah, I don't know why. I couldn't, I couldn't tell you. Because ostensibly it's the same. Like I don't do anything when I set the page up. And I put everybody in. I set the parameters up so they shouldn't be different from the original message that went out versus the update, because the update just gets automatically generated. I don't do anything. I just clicked reminders. Like, you know, an hour a day. A week a day in an hour before typically. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's when they're scheduled. So who knows. Okay. Well, I'm going to send Chris Mason and Andra. The same reminder that I worked. That worked for me. I just heard from Andra that she's, she must be trying to get in because she said, yes. A couple of minutes ago. Okay. Well. No one. Okay. No one's read. Go ahead. I was just going to say no one sent me. I'm checking my email and no one is sending me a message that they can't get in. And I'm also checking my text messages and no one has reached out to me. That's a good. Do I have your, I'm just looking to see if I have your. Numbered for text messages. I'll, I'll send it to you. Because I think I have, I think you've sent them to me before. Yeah. I have a mobile number of seven, two, six, 1695. Correct. Okay. So that would be the right number for texts. Right. And Andra is here now. Good. Hey. Hi. We need to be here. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, I know Chris was coming. Did you have trouble getting in? No, I had. Oh. There we go. Trying to get into a different. Okay. Chris is here. He just ended up going into the attendees. Section. So. All right. Well, Chris is here. Which means that we. Have our quorum. Because Tom can't make it. Tom is flying. And. Sam is unavailable to make it today. So I think, am I missing anyone? I think Sam Tom. I think that was it. So I think we can. Probably get started. Darcy, I think it's fantastic that you can do this while you're traveling. Right. So first. Can we see outside the train window? Yeah. You can a little bit when she's right over there. So I just wanted to announce that the meeting is being recorded. So. And I'm getting, I'm working on getting the. The webpage established. We actually have a page on the Amherst town site now for this meeting. So I'm going to get back to the agenda. I'm going to get back to the agenda. The agendas and materials and resources. And that's going to take me a little bit, but I will work on getting that together. I'm going to be gone next week, Monday through Thursday. So when I get back, I'll. It's one of the things I'll be trying to pull together. I've got another web committee that's just convened recently as well, that I'm working on getting their information up too. So we have an agenda for today's meeting. I can share it. Bear with me one moment and I will share my screen. Well, I couldn't find it. So, you know, I don't know what my problem is, but. I sent it as. I sent the. Yeah, I sent an email up a packet. Yeah, I got that. It says, it says packet items for the meeting. That's typically how I do it. Okay. They won't necessarily always get posted before the meeting and on the website, but I always send them to the committee members ahead of time. So. But let me share the agenda just so you can see it. So you. Hold on one moment. So I'll share my screen. So we have to review the minutes of the last two meetings. Oh. We can't. The same reason we couldn't before the same reason we couldn't last time. That's right. Because Tom isn't here. Okay. So we're going to have a lot of minutes to review at the next meeting. So hang on, Stephanie. Well, I guess. I mean. The reason we can't do it is because some of the stuff weren't at previous meetings. Correct. Because there's, there's quorum here. We have quorum. Okay. But you weren't at one of the meetings and Tom wasn't at another meeting, I think. Right. So. We need you both here. So I still go by the idea that I can vote. Yes. I've seen it done in public meetings. Someone who wasn't at a meeting votes to approve. I have two. I'm not, I, I don't think I was the one who said we absolutely can't. So, I mean, I. At the risk of some potential. I don't know who's going to make this a big issue. Quite honestly. Let's just skip it for the next one. And then we'll decide, I'll look into it and find out for sure. Just say yes. Yeah. I mean. And so, yes, Darcy does a great job. So. Let's just put that off until the next meeting. And Darcy has agreed to be our minute taker, even though she's traveling. So thank you very much Darcy. Greatly appreciated. And to this next item of setting a regular meeting. Time, you know, Tom is in here once again. So, you know, typically he said Fridays would work for him. So I think we're just going to maybe. Continue with our Friday. Meeting times for now. I mean, at the last meeting or the last time we met, he said that this. The last time is typically one that works for him. So. Our next meeting is already scheduled. I think that's partly why we did that was for July 8th. And that's where Paul Gromer said he would join us. So. We'll just check in at that next meeting about this day and time. If Fridays at 10 are good. Is everyone of you okay with that, Chris? And then everybody else. I just want to make sure people are, I mean, we've had this discussion many times. So on Fridays at 10 seem to work. So the next meeting is July 8th and Paul Gromer will be with us. And maybe might even have some other members members of his team, I think. Which would be great and very welcome. Kind of a kickoff meeting. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what it's going to be. So that's, which is incredibly exciting. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just making a note that I want to call it that. Okay. So I'm going to stop sharing. Do you need me to keep this up Adele or. No, it's. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. All right. I will stop sharing. There. I just quickly I lost connectivity for a minute. Did we, did we review the minutes? No, we didn't. We didn't. We didn't review them. We didn't review them. And we decided we'll just do them all at the next meeting. And then we'll sort of, I'm going to look into. I'm going to talk with our. Town clerk about just, you know, the procedure for minutes. If someone isn't present. Can they still vote. On minutes. Cause I, you know, Chris and I have both. Seen people do it. But then I have heard other people say we shouldn't do it. So I just want to get a final, like if I get an official answer, I'm going to call them over. I'm going to call them over. I'll be back in with the town clerk's office. So, so what they say goes. And we do record the meetings. So I mean, You can look at the meetings as well. The meetings, just so you know, are on the Amherst, YouTube site. So if you go to YouTube. And you type in Amherst, YouTube. And VG. Whatever our initials are. WG. And if that doesn't come up, type in Valley Green Energy Working Group. I will say they're not always up as quickly as they could or should be. But if you really need a link, just let me know. And I'll get it to you if you feel like you need to look at the meeting. I mean, Paul Gromers is one we may all want to sort of have access to. So. Okay. So I'm going to go to item number four, which is basically just updates. Does anyone have updates? I have, you know, some minor ones, but any other updates by people? It hasn't been a week. It's only been a week, right? Right. It's crazy. Okay. It was quite a week, I have to say. So my only update is that, you know, that Paul said yes to the meeting on July 8th, really exciting. He may have some other staff with him. And yeah, looking forward to that. And I think this is the place where I will say first, I will humbly ask forgiveness for the, the PR debacle, the press release debacle that it went out. So if I could just explain that morning, which was just insane. Chris had just called me that morning. It was 10 minutes before I was about to facilitate a two hour meeting of a brand new committee. And the town manager was part of that working group. And the town manager was calling me as I was talking to Chris. And I had already sent the press release to the town manager and the communications director. And when he said, okay, the communications director then sort of went with it because he said, it looks good to me. So she sent it out. So it was great that she was so prompt, but I apologize. So that just moving on from that. I think it really brought up a good point though, which was just, you know, moving forward now that we're going to be moving into this, like inter municipal thing. So I think it's going to be a good point. I think it's going to be a good point. How, how we're going to work on press releases. And I would, I would say, and I'm going to suggest that we, when we wait until the meeting with Paul Groomer and bring this up as an item with him, because I think getting the messaging out about the CCA is going to be important. And obviously, but I think how it's delivered is important too. And my guess is that they have very. Very specific methods and ways of how they communicate this because they do this so frequently with other communities. And I think. You know, once they're on board, at least for the CCA piece, I think they're going to probably have very specific ways they want to communicate things out and that we work with them. So that they work with all three of our communities and work maybe depending on when they're doing outreach in an individual community, like for instance, Northampton may have its own press release at one point, but I think it's going to be very specific. Because they're scheduling some kind of a public meeting. That doesn't mean Amherst has to be part of that one or Pelham has to be part of that one. So that we just work very closely with Paul Groomer. So that's, I just wanted to put that out there and see what people think. I'm sorry. I missed what the problem was with it. With the press release. I think there was some feeling that it sounded Amherst centric and didn't have quotes from the other communities. Yeah, I read through it again. And I, you know, I looked through it again and I have to say honestly, I mean, Amherst just was putting it out that as lead community, they signed a contract and that's basically what it said. And it does Paul Groomer even referenced working with all three communities and it does reference that the three communities have been working on this together for a while. So, you know, whatever, I don't, I don't really want to. Like, you know, split hairs over this thing. It happened and I'm sorry. I mean, I think in the future, you know, I would also say that if people, if communities really want to make sure that their. Community is represented. Each community is more than welcome to send out their own press releases about stuff too. I don't, you know, we don't. I mean, my. What I would like to have seen better was that the press release showed a. You know, it basically represented a real. Group commitment, all three towns moving together. That we're all, you know, it's not one person, one town representing another town. Because the other town might be kind of seen as just, oh, yeah, let them do it, you know, and that's not the case here at all. So I think it's really as important that when we communicate, it comes across as a team effort. This is all three towns working on things. Right. So if anybody sends out a press release, I think it really should be approved by all three towns. I think we need to be ready to jump on it very fast so we don't slow things down. Right. Right. But I think all three towns should prove each press release. And I agree. I agree. Just like I said, it got away from me. I would have absolutely. I would have emailed Brianna as soon as we had got off the phone, but the timing. It was just like one of these things where it was the confluence of timing. So there was no. No. No, I agree with that. It was no malintent. I'm not trying to take the thunder of anything, you know, and. You know, it does. It does very. It does reference very clearly. I think maybe it's just a quote from Paul. Maybe makes it sound that way. But it very clearly states a commitment by all three communities, having worked together over three years. You know, it says over the past several years, the three communities have worked together. And Paul says, I look forward to working with all three that doesn't just say Amherst and, you know, you know, these two communities joining along. So anyway, I don't want to keep belaboring this point because it's done. And we don't want you to feel real bad about it. Yeah, I am going to say I did lose some sleep. I'm not kidding. I really did lose some sleep because I did feel bad. But I think, you know, going forward, I just think it's so important for Paul Gromer to weigh into because I really feel like how we, you know, there's information that is going to need to go to a broad group of people. And to Darcy's point, and Darcy, it wasn't to slight you. I just really didn't want to include anything that was any kind of explanation about what CCA is in that particular press release because I just feel like, again, that becomes a slope that I didn't want to go down. So anyway, it'll all be fine working forward. I think we all have a great working relationship. So it'll be good. Anyway, so during my vacation at one point, I came across a quote from something I was reading from Tom from Mark Twain. And I've had a lot of, you know, times when you can get anxious and stuff. So anyhow, this is a great quote. I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened. Yep. That's, yep. Yes, I love it. That's great. I think I should print that out. I'm going to print that up and put it in my cubicle somewhere. Yeah, it was just, yeah, it's been quite a week, like I said. But very exciting things like we have a new solar bylaw working group that's, we're going to do a townwide solar assessment and create a solar bylaw. So that's very, you know, it's an exciting step for us. And so Wednesday was the first initial meeting and it was a big deal. Anyway, and that will sort of, I feel like there's some relevance too in what we're doing with CCA because if we're going to be citing solar, I think that's why the timing of this was so important for that group. Because it'll sort of feed into working with Paul and citing solar in town. So so the question that I put out to everyone last time was if you had questions for Paul Gromer to send them to me and Darcy sent me a few. And I can share them with everyone. And if people want to add to this list, it might be helpful to get it to Paul ahead of time or not. I don't know. I'm just let me just put it up here. I'll share it with you all. So we can add to this. If people want to, I will share it. Okay, you can see that. Assuming people can see this. Yes. Yes. Okay. Is the font size okay? For those of us who I know sometimes when I'm at home, I can't read, but that's good. Okay, good. I know Adele, I was specifically making sure that you could see. Thank you. Welcome. So so these are the questions Darcy sent. Please describe steps to launch before during after DPU approval, including development of a business plan. Is there a way to advocate to move faster? Which if I think that's specifically referring to the DPU approval process, which we've heard horrendous things about recently, that it's taking forever, which is a little disconcerting. I'm hoping that by the time we get ours through the pipeline, that maybe things will have moved along by then. Please describe and give examples of outreach help you provide, including flyers, websites, et cetera. Do you want me to add press releases? So they did give us, in their proposal to us, they gave a lot of examples on that. It's still not a bad question to ask, but they do have a lot of examples already. I think, I mean, I think we have some but and even though we shared that information with people, I think having them talk it through a little bit is always a little different and Darcy wasn't part of that conversation. So I think even though we heard it, other people didn't. So I'm adding press releases to this too. So not everybody saw their proposal? No, the proposal went to everybody. Okay. I'm just saying that when we interviewed them, we still had them, even though they provided examples, we still talked about it a little bit with them during the interview. And I think for other members of this group's benefit, it would be good for him, even just to sort of touch on them, even if we can sort of reference people back to that. In fact, I can find the proposal and send it out to everyone again, if that will be helpful to the group. I'm happy to do that. Although we should have it, I think in our materials, but if not, I'll just make it easy and send it to everybody. I'm just going to make a note. But still sometimes it helps. The question number four is interesting. Oh, yes. And I think we must have sent it to him. Question number six, do we submit the joint powers agreement with the CCA application? That's a good question for him. I'm not sure if we do. I don't know that we... Oh, I think don't we know because we will, ostensibly, we will be a JPE by then. Right. So don't they have to have the JPA as part of that just as an attachment? Well, good question, Paul. I think we decided earlier that we did, but excellent question from Paul. Yeah, because I don't see why. I mean, it's like the city doesn't have to provide its founding documents when it applies for a CCA. I'm just going to rephrase this a little bit. I think it does have to, yeah. Really? It has to provide its founding documents when it applies? I remember seeing those in the applications that we reviewed. Okay, great. All right. There. I just edited a little bit. Sure. So are there any other questions that people want to add to this list? Because I think I'm going to send this to Paul ahead of time. I think it would be helpful for him. And I think these are, you know, these are certainly some of the questions on my mind. So I think it covers most. Oh, I know my question was, I did have a question that follows this one. So my question is about, so yeah, I'm just wondering, and I think I had this question before is like, if we have an adder, even though the CCA is part of the JPE, it's one of the, you know, programs of the JPE, if we have an adder to support the CCA in administering that, can that person reside in the JPE? So that was kind of my question. Anything else? Good question. Anything else folks can think of? We might want to ask something about, actually, we don't have anything about the Community Advisory Committee. I don't know if that's in the CCA piece. I don't think it is. That's for the JPE, right? I think so. Yeah. So that's kind of a broader piece. That's up to us with the JPE. That's kind of outside the CCA, I would think. But doesn't it have some? I'd have to look back. I know. I'm trying to think, well, because maybe it is just under the JPE and somehow the CCA issue is addressed with the JPE as part of the JPE sort of business. Can somebody refresh our memories about where to find these documents because I have to confess, I can't find them. Darcy has links in our minutes. There's a list of within her minutes that have links. So that's when I said earlier that I'm working on the website and getting the resources onto the web page. Because right now we have them in the Google Drive. So all the links that Darcy has linked back to the Google Drive. So they're there. I don't know if this helps Adele. I know for me when I open up my Google, my Gmail or my calendar through Gmail, Google stuff, there's that little circle with all the dots in it. Then if you click on it, it gives you Gmail, Drive, Docs, Sheets, whatever. When I click on the Drive piece, then it brings up and I can look for anything that was shared with me and if you recent any starred and generally it pops out. I tend to just open up my Drive and if it's been shared with me, I can find it. Thanks. You try that. All the all the minutes including the minutes in this packet have links at the bottom which will probably be taken off before we approve them because they're in Google Docs but they're in there now in the drafts and every other minutes that we've ever gotten has a list of the important documents at the top. Yeah, thanks so much Darcy. I guess that's what I was saying is that I need to get those links at least for these meetings that we're having once we became official. I have to take the minutes and take the links off. I can't have a link to Google Docs on the town's website so I'll have to create. Basically what I'm going to do is save them as documents and then load them under resources. I'll have resources. I'll find a way to categorize them somehow. It's going to be a little bit of a work in progress so at some point I may put on the agenda our website page suggestions. I don't hear anything else about any additional questions for Paul. Is this the document that I sent you Stephanie? Well you had just sent me an email with a list of questions so I just put it in a document and I'm going to send it to Paul. All right so if you could send that to me to put in the notes that would be good. We'll do. Okay so Darcy did you want to have a question about the community advisory committee or not for this? Do you want to say is there a role for them in the CCA effort? Well I think you know CCA once once it all gets going CCA and JTE are really going to be very much combined so if it's not if it's not dealt with in the CCA application we probably don't need to ask him but but eventually we'll I mean we just don't want we want to be prepared if we're the first entity in Massachusetts that has such a thing that the DPU uh not resistant you know so I'm I guess I'm just uh but if I guess if we could just completely avoid the issue that might be a way of dealing with it but if they are getting the JTA at the same time as the CCA application and they see that that is part of this plan there might be some questions about that. I see what you're saying so I would just want to flag it and say do you foresee any problems? Yeah that's sort of generally. Yeah I I'm a little afraid to bring it up but well we should though because we also I mean I would rather bring it up early and ask then to get blindsided by the DPU with that so better to have this discussion now with Paul. Anything else? I think we might have lost our uh Andrew I think she had to go okay if everyone is okay with this I'm going to stop sharing unless they have any other questions Looks good. Thank you guys. Oh Darcy? Thank you Darcy primarily. Well I only added a few so okay great so I'll send that to Paul and make sure that he gets it ahead of the meeting so 10 a.m so we said Friday the 8th I can't remember if we said 10 a.m or not so um but 10 a.m works for folks here at least. Yeah I'm pretty sure he said 10 a.m. Yeah I'm pretty sure too. Yep okay that's how I have it on the calendar. Okay well I'm pretty sure that Tom said he would absolutely make it for that meeting with with Paul so all right I'll send the document ahead of time with the questions and we should be good to go. Let's see I'm just going to look at our agenda here um so let's see we have public comment next but we don't have any public and then our next meeting agenda do we have other things that folks wanted to cover today I mean that was pretty much our agenda was because we weren't sure if Paul was going to be with us so is there anything else folks want to discuss or I'm all set okay so here's the thing we have scheduled our JPE group after this meeting so we can end this meeting formally end this meeting and then you all have the links to our JPE group and I think that's where there was some discussion about talking about the language for the Valley Green Alliance. I don't have I mean I didn't have it in me to sort of put together that agenda so we can be a little more informal with that meeting but are folks feeling the need to meet this you know right now with that effort or do you want to just put it off do we have any document that is updated comments from the lawyers not yet I Rick has been good about sending me updates when he does outreach to Alan so I don't know if maybe Chris you want to check in with Alan about that maybe move him along a little because I know that Rick is trying to get him to sort of finalize suggestions and language so and I know that was as recent as earlier this week so I think that's we're just kind of waiting at this point okay so I don't have anything else so I don't have any I don't have the draft contracted latest revised version so I don't have anything we have a long list of things we need to consider like how are we going to raise money for this effort and how are we going to create a website for this effort etc so I don't know if we want to start talking about that today or not we've been putting it off very successfully we have and we could continue to do so actually I think we've been quite quite busy I did um no I'm sorry that's okay Darcy go ahead uh I did send the group a a list of the you know really cool websites the California JPEs so we might want to give homework of looking at those so that we could give feedback to Paul Bromer if he's the one that's going to make some fancy website for us um could you clarify are you talking about the CCAs or the or the joint power entities I'm talking about our you know ultimately our webpage for the joint powers entity but I'm assuming why would Paul Bromer have any feedback on that well I'm assuming he's going to be I guess I was assuming that he was going to be involved eventually once we have approval for creating a business plan it's going to be for the whole shebang right I don't think he's going to want to be involved in anything other than the CCA but you know I could be wrong I don't anticipate that he will Darcy either I think he's going to very specifically be focused on the CCA piece and then and any web presence they they will actually create a web presence for the CCA but that won't be that will be something that at least the way I'm envisioning it is that our JPE's website will sort of have a link to it um and go to it you know I mean it'll have a presence on our page but basically it'll be a link to Paul Gromer's creation of what the CCA page information will have so because it's just a program go ahead yeah all the more reason for us to be trying to figure it out and maybe we could just look at those websites before the next meeting and yeah give feedback they're fun to look at I mean even looking at um Cape Light Compact or you know the and the ones that you sent would be helpful yeah I can resend that to people in case you lost it okay so why don't we just do that as homework and I'll send that out as a separate email for the JPE effort do we want to reschedule that meeting then I mean I don't I don't necessarily feel the need to have that meeting right now do others feel a burning desire to start talking about that stuff now I know Adele you said we have a long list but it's okay with me to keep postponing well we're postponing until we actually get at JPE JPA and we become the JPE is that formed and then it has a board and the board can start doing work and then and then we're official of course don't we don't we have to start the process of creating a board well maybe that's something that really does need to wait because the chief executives have to be involved in that and they're not going to want to be involved in that until there's an official document so anyway never mind yeah so there's an excuse to push it off yeah it's sort of yeah it works at a different level than all of us at least initially to get it started so yeah I think we're good to put it off until we actually get there Darcy please do we send those links I don't know why I'm so challenged in the in finding all these documents but I am sure I found sometimes too when I try to do searches on my phone for some reason I have a super hard time finding things on my phone and documents sometimes disappear like especially my work the setup for my work account on my phone is different than on my computer at work so it's yeah it's confusing yeah phone they're not good at organizing things no searching emails on phones is bizarrely it's like how did you miss that you know I searched on a term that's right there at the beginning of the subject it they can't find it yeah I don't know how I delete like sometimes things get deleted and it's like you know did you mean to delete this and then the prompt is gone and it just happens very quickly right so it's just like no I didn't do no no so all right well um great then let's I think we can adjourn this meeting because we have no more we've gotten through our agenda um our next meeting agenda is really going to be focused on Paul Gormer it's our it's we'll call it our kickoff meeting yeah do you know how long that meeting is going to be it's an hour but we could do we I mean we could make it longer if we want you know I'm just wondering how much time we need for that you know for a kickoff meeting hours probably fine yeah I think you know you know for Paul I'm sure a lot of this is wrote but I mean it is he's working with three communities I mean a lot of times I think he's working with just an individual yeah we're probably three overly prepared community so true very true yeah I mean we're going to be sending him a draft if we haven't already a draft cca and you know I can forward that to him too um and you know just as an fyi and I can't remember if we did before or not if he's I'm trying to remember if he said he would use ours or if he said he would want to create his own I feel like I might be confusing that with when we were working on the jpa with Erin O'Rourke yeah can't hurt to send it to him yeah send it to him okay uh send okay one reason I asked for the length was just whether or not we want to I mean to Adele's point sure we could put off the talking about the jba or the jbe but we also could start working on stuff and someone wants to put together an agenda you know next on on the eighth we could take a look you know and start working on that a little bit so that'll just be a separate meeting though from it wouldn't be a separate we'd just close this one out and we'd have to have but if the meeting with paul is going to be two hours then I would just skip a jpa meeting yeah well I think the meeting I think there's going to be a lot honestly my personal opinion is that meeting with paul is probably going to have a lot of information and I think I would almost not want to have the other meeting immediately after just because I would rather give the meeting with paul more time okay yeah me too um yeah rather having to have allow it to have as much time as it needs so do we want to do we want to say it's two hours and it may be less but let's at least give it two hours so that we have time sure okay what about um in the meantime if we get feedback from the lawyers about the jpa well just schedule the meeting another meeting okay doesn't have to be that same day like I don't think these two meetings because when we've done this in the past the cca meetings and the jpa meetings were separate they were separate weeks separate days fine so um it might it'll be less confusing I think if we keep it that way so I'll just reach out go ahead Darcy I would just ask um that we really give the lawyers the impression that there's urgency because we've sort of seen how much we've had to go back and forth between the municipalities to finally get you know the contract signed and so on and you know I foresee that there's probably going to be a lot of going back and forth with the jpa because it's much more involved actually I don't think there is Darcy because it was just we were actually really at the point where we were finalizing just a few pieces and um and Northampton's legal counsel and the Amherst Hallam legal counsel have been working together on it so I think we're it was really close actually that's why I'm kind of unsure why it's you know I think Alan probably just has a really full plate and this is just one of those things that kind of maybe dropped down because it wasn't a lot to do it was very little left to do but regardless who we did if the lawyers think that we have a lot of urgency maybe they'll work on it faster so well yeah I mean I certainly said to um I think I I think I initially sent an email to both of them and I told them that we had had the signed MOU and that we were signing the contract with Paul Cromer and that we needed this JPA in place in order to move the CCA along so I you know I think Rick got it because he's been pretty responsive um I think it's just um he's just trying to sort of uh wrap things up with Alan so but yeah if Chris if you just reach out to Alan I think that would do more than Rick reaching out to him yep okay great then why don't we um see everybody on the eighth see everybody on the eighth and we'll make it a two-hour meeting and then we can we can just you know figure out the next JPA meeting date from there unless unless we get the final drafts back then we can well we'll schedule yeah if we get those back then we'll schedule a meeting sooner than later great okay all right great well everybody have a wonderful Fourth of July holiday yeah and enjoy it's going to be a nice weekend Stephanie and don't um don't forget to just uh happy and paste that list and send it to me so I can put it in the notes yeah I will I I've saved the document so I'll just forward it on to you I've got it as a doc now I'll just forward it to you okay all right thank you all right thanks everybody take care everybody bye