 Shura is a private public intubator that runs autonomously. So the institution arrangement between the intubator and McKay University and Naro was a key challenge at the beginning. How do you have an autonomous institution promoted by public institutions? So there is always a task to say we want to control it, we want to be part of the university or we want it to run autonomously because it can raise its own financing and build and grow as an organization. That was the first challenge you had to work through and thank God McKay and Naro agreed to start Shura as an independent organization only promoted by the public sector but running as a private institution capable of raising its finance, capable of growing as an organization and not be a project driven entity. So that was the major challenge. Besides that having started with a grant as a seed transitioning from grant into an organization is also very challenging. First of all when there is no direct government support support the institutional setup becomes extremely difficult. Thank God the university provided Shura with the buildings to work and start with so there is no rent overhead. With that in place Shura had managed to attract new partners to grow the organization from the first initial project into a successful intubator. Shura had managed to attract new partners, new funding and it has expanded and actually set up its own head office way beyond the university confines and it's now a national organization. So those are the key challenges and that's how Shura tried to work through them to establish itself.