 I'm just trying to figure out all my buttons, do you know? It's very confusing here. How many buttons do you need? I don't need about a third of all the buttons that I hear currently. It's completely over-engineered. Is it? Yeah. But think about it. I don't need it. Well... Do you want me to get some Gaffer tape and Gaffer tape them down for you tomorrow? Do you want to take us? Are you not on that one? No, thank you. No, me neither. That was a quick answer, wasn't it? Yeah, exactly. Come here. Have a good day. You too. Wednesday. It is. Nice. There you go. Not long to Friday. Home for the week. Let's not wish our lives away, Lee. We've talked about this before. That was a joke, because we used to always say not long to Friday now and blah, blah, blah, and years ago. When it was Saturday. When we were young. I know. You just live for the weekends. It's funny how it changes, isn't it? All right, Lee. Thanks very much indeed, Lee. Goochies, back with you, of course, tomorrow morning at 6.30. It's The 9-Till-Noon Show, coming up after a news update now from Donna-Marie Daherty. Thanks, Greg. Good morning. Donegal T.D. and Sinn Féin Finance spokesperson Pierce Doherty claimed a change of government will be necessary to resolve the housing crisis. During his address, Deputy Doherty emphasised rising figures exclude the hidden homeless who are relying on the goodwill of loved ones for a place to live. He told The Doll that no county is exempt from its effects, including his own. This housing crisis has now seeped into every corner of our society and economy, including my own county of Donegal. And it is a direct threat to the economy, with businesses finding it now increasingly difficult to recruit and to retain staff. The housing crisis can be solved. No doubt about that. But it cannot be solved by this government or the parties that created and deepened the housing emergency. Only a change of government will deliver. Bundor and RNLI responded to a call out on Sunday last when six stand-up paddle boarders got into difficulty off Ross Neula. The group consisted of two adults and four children. The Rescue 118 helicopter was also deployed. One of the six had managed to raise the alarm using their mobile phone, which they had stored in a waterproof pouch. The rescue team are urging people to carry a means of calling for help when on the water, as it can make a life-saving difference as it did in this case. Progress on the National Children's Hospital will be the subject of scrutiny at the Aractus Health Committee today. The National Pediatric Hospital Development Board will tell members it's very difficult to provide the completion date due to the absence of a compliant contract program. The contractor BAM has been the subject of major criticism, and the committee will hear how it hasn't provided a monthly progress report in several months. Health Minister Stephen Donnelly condemned the ongoing delays. I have been critical of the pace at which this project has gone on. You'll have seen the opening statement from the Chief Executive Development Board today, where he says that progress has been at about two-thirds of what they would have expected. It is very frustrating. The contractor is expected to deliver according to the contract. That's all we've ever asked. Donnie Gull, Dirk Gardie, are reminding the public to never click a link on a suspicious text message and to delete it upon receipt. A text purporting to be from a bank warning of unusual activity is doing the rounds. The recipient is told their card has been placed on hold until further action is taken. Gardie, say if you have fallen victim to such scam, to report it to your bank and then to get in contact with your local guard station. Looking now to weather, mainly cloudy with scattered outbreaks of rain and drizzle this morning. Some sunny spells will develop in the afternoon and evening. However, there will be scattered showers too and some may be heavy. Highest temperatures of 15-17 degrees in a light to moderate west to northwest wind. That's all for now. We'll be back with the next news update at 10 o'clock. Until then, good morning. And hello, a very good morning to you. Just turning four minutes past nine on this Wednesday, the 12th of July 2023. You're very welcome along to another program here. It is the nine-till-noon show as you've just heard. And we're here to keep you informed, entertained over the next three hours. But you've got your role to play. You have to be involved in it. So we want your views and your comments and your stories to 086-60-25000 from outside the Republic, 00-353-86-60-25000. If you wish to give us a call, Caroline taking your calls as always, an eave on the phones as well, 07491-25000 and emails to comments at highlandradio.com. Right, okay. We've plenty to get through, our first guest coming up very shortly. So we'll get straight to the newspapers this morning. The Finn Valley Voice, Twin Towns. The Twin Towns will benefit from four million euro to tackle vacancy and dereliction in County McDonald. All the news has been welcomed by Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine Charlie McConnelogue, who said it will help local authorities bring vacant properties back into use with the dual benefit of improving streetscapes and providing additional housing. And I look forward to genuinely look forward to in a year or two seeing how that money was spent, where the benefits lie and what difference it's made. I think that would be really refreshing. We've done similar stories like that in the past and you just hope this is the one whereby something actually happens. The Donegal Post this morning, the children of John Byrne, who passed away a year ago, have raised more than 13,000 euro for the RNLI by cycling from Misenhead to Mallonhead. The Gilbertstown brockless native was well known for his voluntary work in Mallon, which included the RNLI and Mallon GEA, having settled in and shown four of his nine children completed the charity cycle last Friday. They're donating the funds raised to the RNLI in honour of their father, who was a member of the Mallon RNLI fundraising branch. What a brilliant achievement for a brilliant person and a brilliant charity as well. Well done to everyone involved in that monumental effort. The Innish Times this morning plans to include an iconic inclined elevator as part of the proposed 12.5 million tourism project at Fort Donry have been scrapped and I think we had, if I'm not mistaken, a couple of people on the program who were really quite opposed to that idea. Well the project at the former military fort, the biggest single investment by the state in a tourism facility in Donegal, is aimed at producing a visitor attraction that will explore the history of the site, its people and its ecology. It's the cornerstone of efforts by Folcher Ireland and Donegal Canada Council to boost visitor numbers to innishome. Well as well as removing the removal of the inclined elevator, the councillors said local access to the site after the development is completed may involve a nominal annual fee. The proposed inclined elevator was trumpeted when the project was announced more than two years ago as the only one in Ireland. But it seems to not be now, it's not going to be. Right onto the nationals, as you can imagine. Wall to wall coverage of yesterday's proceedings. Did you watch, I mean we did hear really effectively, not an awful lot happened beyond the opening statements that we broadcast on the show yesterday, if the truth be told. I do have a, I don't think the process is completely good for democracy. It has to be done, but I think there is a minimum bar for people asking questions and I mean this with absolute respect. I think there's a minimum bar of understanding that the TDs or senators, the majority of them asked very pertinent questions, don't get me wrong, but I think there's a minimum bar of knowledge of a situation that they should be able to reach before asking questions. And I think also they should have to listen to what was spoken about before, because there were many questions asked for the, asked as if it were for the first time, but it had been the fourth, fifth, sixth rehearsal of them. And they were written down, so they weren't, the questions then weren't adapted to sort of further pry. It was as they were doing something else, having lunch or something, it seemed on occasion, when these questions were being answered previously. Did you watch it or did you watch the highlights of it? And what did you think? I think we're all at this point, are we ready to draw a line under it? And perhaps maybe Mr. Kelly, Mr. Toberty's appearance before it. I think also what happened yesterday, if you don't mind me expressing my observation was, is that yes, Ryan Toberty was respectful and answered the questions of the politicians that were there. But for me, it was clear that for the most part, at times, he was actually addressing the cameras and the people of Ireland who would have been watching. And as I say, that was with no disrespect to those asking the questions. But I think he was more interested in getting his views and his story and where he's at across to the public watching, rather than to the Oroctus members. But the Irish Times assessment of it in a fourth right and sometimes emotional evidence to Oroctus committees yesterday, Ryan Toberty and his agent, Noel Kelly, accused Artie of giving false and misleading accounts of the stars, renumeration, seeking to place responsibility for the controversial squarely back with the station's management. But committee members repeatedly questioned key parts of their evidence about the extra, the extent of pay cuts taken in 2020 by Mr. Toberty and expressed skepticism at aspects of their explanation about the payments made to him outside his core contract. So the way they framed it, if I'm not mistaken, is he has a contract. He's independent. He's sole trader for, he is Ryan Toberty limited. So he has a contract with RTE to present his show, to present the late late show. And that's what he's paid for by RTE. He took a pay cut for that. Separate to that, they claim that RTE said that Renault, who was an advertiser, was interested in working Mr. Toberty. And he would do a series of nine appearances over three years for three by 75,000 euro. So if he receives that money, which he did, is that a pay cut? Does that mean he didn't take a pay cut? Or do you accept that this is a separate piece of work that he's doing? So you have a building contractor, they're working on one house over there, and they go, I'm not making enough money there. I'm going to take on this other project over here, run the two at the same time. And that increases my income. So is he wrong for doing that? Does that mean he didn't take a pay cut is the question. But what it really comes down to now, and I heard a couple of interviews this morning on it, is that it's down to whether Noel Kelly should have queried the raising of two invoices to a British company, an English company, anonymously calling them consultancy fees. And what it all boils down to now is whether Noel Kelly should have said, hold on a second, there's something off here. And that in not doing so, he's damaged the reputation of his client. And some people making questions yesterday, or asking questions didn't seem to know the difference between an agent and a client. But anyway, in did he damage the reputation of Ryan Topperty? And that's what it seemingly has come out of yesterday. Is it plausible? Now, also, it seems that they don't believe Noel Kelly. So if Noel Kelly says that we thought all along that this €150,000 for the two years of the contract, with that money came from Renault, and that RT didn't underwrite the payment of this money, but they underwritten us in, to the extent that if Renault pulled out after a year, and Toyota came in that they would be able to do a similar deal with that Toyota, that's what their claim in the underwriting is. But members of the committee don't believe that and they are saying effectively, even if between the lines, Noel Kelly needs to come in and say that I was complicit in the creation of these invoices, which was wrong. I knew what was, I knew we were hiding money. It was a dodgy old situation. And also, I knew the taxpayer would be on the hook for €150,000. That's what they wanted him to come in and say. But if he does not believe that, if he doesn't believe that, well, he can't say it. And we are in this, we are in this stalemate. That's my assessment of where we are at at this point outside of that. Obviously, Mr. Backhurst's coming in is going to have to make some significant changes. But in terms of what started all of us, it all seems to come down to that for me now. And I think genuinely at this point, there are much bigger things for us to be worried about than whether or not Noel Kelly did the right thing in protecting Ryan Toberty's reputation. So if that's what they're focusing on now, I think they need to move on. Because, as I say, they're a far bigger fish to fry. 08, 6, 60, 25,000, your views and comments whether you agree, disagree or whatever. I'm just trying to set something out for the purpose of starting a conversation there. The Irish Independent tells us that the new leaving search sex education curriculum will normalize lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and other LGBTQ plus identities, relationships and families rather than marginalizing them to standalone lessons. The government's curriculum advisors say the approach to be taken with students will be inclusive, underpinned by the principles of equality, human rights and responsibilities. Radical changes to social, personal and health education and relationships and sexual education are set out in proposals from the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment. The overall overhaul of the SPHE and RSE, the first for more than 20 years aims to bring teaching and learning up to date with societal developments and equip students for living in the world today. So the relationships and sexually strands will cover issues such as managing in person and online relationships, including boundaries and communicating feelings, discussing sexual activity as an aspect of adult relationships characterized by care, respect, consent, intimacy and mutual pleasure. Examining of how harmful anti attitudes around gender and perpetuated are perpetuated, perpetuated, I beg your pardon, in the media online and in society and discuss strategies for challenging these attitudes and narratives. Identify and consider common signs of abusive relationships including coercive control and on it goes. So that is how it's going to be taught in the new leaving search sex education curriculum. And as I say, following, I mean we heard T. Shockley of, is it T. Shock at the moment? He is. Yeah, he is. T. Shockley of Radcar stating that his view is that the young people should be taught about what's happening in the world and not necessarily the ins and outs of it, so to speak, but certainly if there are people that identify as this gender or that gender to recognize that they are there and to educate people so they understand that. But that's leaving, sir. What do you think 086625,000? Well, the Arctis Committee won't get as big a viewership today, but it's an important off-issue for some people. RTE will today defend the controversial pay-per-view GAA Goal Service saying it is neither realistic or feasible for sport fans to expect all TV coverage to be free to air. In the document seen by the Irish Daily Mail, RTE Head of Sport, Declan McBennett will outline the broadcaster's position on the controversial GAA Goal app with two of the most exciting games in the hurling championship shown on the, listen, okay, I hope again that the right questions are asked. See in the early stages of the championship when there's tons and tons of games, like we can't realistically expect all of them to be shown. And if it's your county that's not on in one of the group games, you know, you're going to be peed off, but you'll get over it. But when you have four semi-finals, I don't think it's unreasonable for four semi-finals to be shown on pay-per-view. Sorry, on free to air. So I hope whoever's asking the questions understands. That would be my view, and I'd say, look at, okay, if there's 15, 20 games on at the weekend, right, they're not all going to be on, some of us in some counties are going to be peed off at times, others aren't. But if there's four quarter-finals, sorry, if there's four quarter-finals to Saturday to Sunday, I don't think it's unreasonable that all of those games would be available for free to air. And if they promised, now if they committed to all quarter-final semis and finals, and at least half of the key games that decide, you know, group winners, I could live with that. I don't expect 20 games to be on at the weekend. Now, that's just my view again. I'm only stating that there's a starting point for a conversation, and I am very open to have my views changed on it. But I just hope that we sort of get those types of questions today. The Irish Daily Star this morning, the BBC presenter facing allegations he paid a teenager for sexually explicit photos sent threatening messages to a young person in the early 20s the broadcaster has reported, the fresh allegations add further pressure for the BBC as it deals with the fallout from the separate claims made against the unnamed male presenter and first reported at the weekend. And there's a third accusation that came out very late last night that didn't make the papers today, that this male presenter nearly said his name, that this male presenter during strict lockdowns was off meeting someone. And I think that could be because of the controversy of lockdowns. That could be the straw that breaks this particular camel's back. The Mirror this morning, new figures show that more than 80% of young former prisoners reoffended within three years. We're doing something wrong here, aren't we convicted burglars among those most likely to carry out further crimes. The numbers were published yesterday by the CSO to account for prison reoffending stats up to 2020. So 84% of young ex inmates reoffend within three years. Do we need to be doing more to educate, rehabilitate, perhaps even punish? What do you think? And lastly, in the sun, bonfires were lit in loyalist areas across Northern Ireland to usher in the main date in the Protestant loyal order parade season. The 11th night fires were lit on the eve of the 12th of July, a day when members of Protestant loyal orders grades to mark the Battle of the Boine in 1690. More images of Michelle O'Neill and others placed on these bonfires and I don't understand why they do it, what the benefit is is. But anyway, it happened. And also to saw that massive one, the amount of pallets, it's really hard to get a pallet after after July, you know, but the amount of pallets in that record breaking bonfire. And you can't, like I know it's, I know officially it's two jurisdictions, but you can't buy a bag of coal anymore and burn it. And you'd be shot for burning a few boxes out the back of your house. And we have this massive construction of wood and nails and whatever else is in it, paint being burnt in a residential area. And it's fine, it just goes ahead. Anyway, all right, 003537491 25,000 if you want to call us from outside the Republic. Do you need a little extra help staying in your home? At Bluebird care, we offer a wide variety of Q mark approved personalised home care services across Donegal. And our fully trained and committed staff will always meet your care needs with kindness, compassion and dignity. To get your personal home care assessment plan, visit bluebirdcare.ie or call our care team today on 07491 29562 and bring care home. 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Just looking down through a note, a couple of notes here in your conversation with Caroline and I think much of it I agree with. What is your assessment of what went on yesterday, Sean? And thank you for joining us and good morning. And thank you, Greg, for having me out. I hope you can hear me okay. Loud and clear. Go ahead. Yeah, thank you very much. Greg, I suppose Ryan Tuberty primarily as the public figure and Noel Kelly as someone who drives a lot of his income from his dealings with RTE had two jobs yesterday really in terms of in terms of their mission. One was to restore their reputation, which has taken a battering over the last three weeks to a month. The second thing was that they promised significant information and I think they delivered that. They've certainly shifted a lot of the blame back to RTE. Some of the documents that they have submitted don't tell you what RTE executives have said in the public domain and what they've said as a RACTA committee hearings and they'll have to account for that on Thursday. As against that and to balance the thing up, you know, I'm not sure it's entirely credible that Ryan Tuberty, who is a very successful broadcaster, a very successful businessman who does do other things aside from presenting his shows, et cetera, and derives income from books, et cetera. But he might have Noel Kelly out there to bat from and he might have him doing the hard talking. I mean, is it entirely credible that he's not on top of all the income he gets, or that he's not on top of the exact sources of that? I think that bit is debatable. I think there was understandable skepticism from RACTA committee members on that point. And, you know, to some extent, you might wonder, you know, is Noel Kelly being thrown under the bus to some extent and he might not even realise it? Well, I thought what quite interesting is is I think Noel Kelly is being thrown under the bus this morning by members of that committee in their interviews in that they are saying they do not believe that he, they do not believe what he stated, that they always believe that Rena was going to pay this money, A, and B, that he had this absolute trust for this massive 380 million organisation that he raised these invoices as he did from a separate company for consultancy fees and anonymous. And the lively question seems to be that he threw Ryan Tauberti's reputation under the bus. But if he believes that is the case, like, is it acceptable that he just went along with RT? Because that from sort of the front pages side of it, this is what it seems to be boiling down to. I think it's strange that he didn't ask questions. And I mean, if he did ask questions, is he now saying he didn't? Maybe he did ask questions and he was told to ask no more. I think a big part of this, as I said earlier though, was about rescuing Ryan Tauberti's reputation, rescuing his ability to continue to be a force in Irish broadcasting. And I think he probably has done enough. I think it would take a few days to get a reading on that. It would take, obviously, a further appearance by all the executives to get a further reading on that. I think it would take calls into shows like yours, calls into your national equivalence to gauge public opinion. I thought Terry Prone on Virgin Media last night captured this very well. There's a couple of different audiences. There's the Erachtis Committee members who I think remain skeptical. But I don't think they're the real audience. The real audience are the Irish public. It'll probably take some time to determine exactly how they feel. Another audience is Erachtis staff. Some of them won't be impressed by yesterday. I think a lot of Ryan's performance, if I can call it that, was a performance, came across as a little bit overly scripted or overly rehearsed. I think people will have picked up on that. Some Erachtis staff would have picked up on that. Having said that, RTE is not a happy place at the moment. There's a lot of issues. And a lot of ordinary RTE staff would not be that unhappy that certain executives are now are now facing. Well, I want to ask you about the staff because that's the one thing we don't really, really know. But I mean, it was clear yesterday, was it not that Noel Kelly was there to take on the committee and to an extent, of course, Ryan Talbotty, and I said earlier on, was respectful, did answer the questions. But it was clear his audience was the probably, you know, high hundreds of thousands of members of the public looking on. So he was gracious to the committee, but really he was talking, in my view, to the watching public. Oh, no, I agree totally. And I think that was part, I think that was part yesterday it was about. I do think there was a danger. Sometimes it can be overly courteous. And I think sometimes you can come across as overly scripted. And I think there was. I spotted elements of that. And I think other people did as well. Now, some people won't care. This was listening to some of the Vox pops on other media outlets this morning. There seemed to be a majority opinion in favor of Ryan. If you look at some of the online polls, and I know they're not always scientifically valid. But if you look at some of the online polls, it seems to be breaking down two to one in Ryan's favor. I think if there's polling done, maybe for some of the weekend papers, it'll be very interesting to see what the public says, because that will affect then how sponsors and advertisers feel. And, you know, don't forget a significant part of Ortie's income. Okay, is the state element, but is also that of advertisers. And of course, that's at the heart of what all this problem is about to begin with two to some extent. But I mean, they'll vote, they'll vote, they'll vote their money, they'll, they'll invest their money where the public wanted to be invested. And there's another element to this. And I said to your team as well, Greg Orfair, does Ryan want to continue in this country? He has broadcast in Britain before a great success. Put that on the back burner with the late, late show, which was a very prestigious outing forum. And I think one in fairness, he did quite well. And I think he no longer does the late, late show. He only does a radio show for one hour a week on the radio. His pay will probably drop to reflect that. And he may pursue other opportunities in the UK or elsewhere, as he did before with some success. With some success. But I think if the truth be told, he does need the RTE vehicle to get those offers to write books or to get those offers to make alternative programming. I think sometimes people think they're bigger than the organisation that they work for. And it's only after they leave that they realise that simply is not the case. You can see that at all different levels. We need an overhaul of eroptuses, eroptus committees and how they run and who's on them. I think, and I said earlier on, there needs to be a minimum bar of knowledge of an issue. You know, there were people sent in there with written questions that they couldn't stray from them because they weren't asking questions, it seems they formulated themselves questions that have been answered or were answered in documentation. And once they were challenged on it, they were bandjacks. That was like they had nowhere to go. And also this tone of an opinion and sort of the inflection in the voices. Oh, oh, right, really? Okay, I don't think that does, I don't think that does them or this process. I think it does them a disservice. They need to, if we're going to overhaul stuff, I think we also need to overhaul who's asking questions, how they're asked, the tone of them. You know, what is a question? What's the statement? Because as I say, what happened yesterday? Who came out of it worst? I would suggest some of those asking questions did. I would agree with your analysis to some extent. I think this is a danger for politicians that they may have feel they got a bit of a holiday or conditions get not only a literal holiday, but a holiday from media scrutiny. And I suppose that came about a month early. All of the focus was on RTE. But I think there's danger here. If this carries on too long, the people will turn on politicians. They'll say firstly, the conduct of the committee hearings is not always prim and proper. A lot of the committee members are acting as sole traders. There isn't a coordinated approach. If I was the chair of one of those committees or I was on the secretariat supporting that committee, I'd be advising that maybe different members should take different aspects and different themes of the issues that the witnesses need to address and come at it more systemically. A lot of them are acting as sole traders. Some of them are quite good. I don't want to name check ones, but some of them are quite good. And I suppose I will name check one, if you don't mind, Colin Burke, a Cork TD who is a solicitor, and he was quite good. But I think one of the dangers, I think sorry. No, that's okay. We've lost you there, but we got your points along the lines there. Kiran Mulally is a former RTE Midlands correspondent. Kiran, thanks for taking the time to join us. Good morning to you. Good morning, Greg. What do you think, Kiran, as someone who's worked within the organization, is the key issue here? Because, as I said in my conversation there, I think really now the media is focusing on the sexy sort of Noel Kelly, Ryan Tauberty relationship reputation. But it's way, way bigger than that now. And maybe we're losing focus of what the core issue is here and what actually needs to change with that organization. Is that your view or what's your opinion? No, you've hit it on the nail, Greg. That is my view as a former RTE staff member. I was Midlands correspondent for RTE for over 25 years. And throughout that period, I can remember five or six times when we were brought in by management and told about the dire state of the company finances and the fact that a license fee increase was necessary and we were going to have to undergo cuts and take the medicine, so to speak. Now, to all of those times, Greg, I can tell you that the issue of salaries and exorbitant fees being paid to top presenters at RTE came up. They came up at every staff meeting and we had these assurances which were given by management at the time that this has been addressed, that the cutbacks are happening. We're going to go back 15%, 20%, 25%. And we believed what we were told as staff of RTE and that's why I think the news which broke in the last couple of weeks was such a torpedo to myself as former staff and to present staff because I speak to them on a regular basis. The fact that despite those promises, Greg, despite those commitments, behind the scenes in a secret move, and in regard to what Noel Kelly says yesterday, it was a secret deal. Nobody knew but outside of RTE. So it was a secret deal. And behind the scenes, an extra payment was being organized, an extra payment was being put in place. So the Ryan Tuberty fee of take home at the end of the day could go up by 75,000 euro per year and then be underwritten by RTE. And to be quite frank about it, Greg, to the people in RTE, people, you know, the average salary in the RTE newsroom is less than 60,000 euro. And I can tell you to most people in RTE, the ordinary staff, that news was absolutely sickening. And they just cannot understand it. They cannot understand the scale of the wages that were being paid and the fees were being paid. Can I ask you if you don't mind, because this is an angle we kind of touched on on this programme a couple of days ago. There was disquiet about this within the organisation. Okay, so the culture was there. Is it not the role of the minister with responsibility of RTE, but particularly these committees that are lining up now to ask all the hard questions? Did they not drop the ball themselves? I think they need a little bit of a looking at to say, well, where were you for the RTE staff? Why weren't you, why did this have to come out before you started scrutinising this like you did? It's very reactionary. And I get it. Don't get me wrong. But I think these committees need to have a look at themselves and say, right, you can blame Myron Tauberty. You can blame Noel Kelly. You can blame the executive. You can complain the board. But your argument is the same. Well, we were just told they come in and they told us and we thought everything was grand. Yet they won't accept that testimony from the people they're questioning. I think this needs to be broadened out, the conversation about these committees and what level of accountability they have in all of this. Maybe you don't agree, but No, I actually agree with you, Greg. I tell you why I mean, I agree with you firstly that, you know, the oversight by the committees involved has been very poor. And I agree with you that there should be expertise on those committees. It was blatantly obvious yesterday that a number of members of the committee were way out of out of their depth, what was going on there. But the issue of the salary in general has to go back and the fees has to go back to the culture in RTE. I mean, you and Donegal will know this more than anybody. This culture began with a guy called Gaye Byrne, a resident of the county, albeit from his holiday perspective from time to time. And Gaye Byrne was the first presenter to come forward in the RTE salary situation or star situation and ask for a salary increase. And, you know, most people don't know why it was. It was a genuine situation. He had investors, the investment had gone wrong. He'd come to a point in his life where his savings were very, very, very low. And he went back to RTE and he told them that he'd have to leave the organization. And I think to be fair to Gaye Byrne, he probably would have left the organization and he probably would have got paid better elsewhere. But the problem is, Greg, he was in my mind, he was the exception. He was the exception because what happened in the in the Celtic Tiger years, the culture of this culture developed, where director-general is an RTE just waited while a queue formed at the door of other so-called top presenters looking for the same rates of salary. And it was ridiculous. The salary scales were absolutely off the wall. And nobody in Donegal or elsewhere could count in a situation where somebody was worked for $100,000. But I remember that Kenny was paid up to $950,000 euro one year. I mean, this is so bizarre and so crazy that I think first and foremost, there's an issue for the previous director-general as an RTE. I don't blame D-Forb. She inherits this situation and this culture that's there. But it has to change. And Kevin Backhurst coming in, who I think, by the way, is the right person in the right place at the right time. I think Kevin Backhurst had to say to people, listen, this is the basic salary we're paying. If you cannot accept us, then cheerio. I think hearing what it's going to come down to as well. And if you listen to Mr. Backhurst's comments that he might be prepared to do work with Ryan Tauberty again, but I don't think Ryan Tauberty helped himself in his absolute endorsement support and backing of Noel Kelly. I think it's going to be very difficult for him to reenter RGE if Noel Kelly still is agent, even if Ryan Tauberty comes on to the box because Mr. Backhurst does not want to be dealing with Mr. Kelly. And you made that very clear in an interview, I think, with News Talk yesterday. Yeah, you did. And I think, you know, there's two things I'll say about yesterday's hearings, Greg. I think first and foremost, after the first 20 minutes, I genuinely felt that Ryan Tauberty was distressed and angered by what had happened. It was caught badly in this situation. He wasn't aware of what was going on on his behalf. And I genuinely feel he felt he was being used, and I have some sympathy for him in that respect. But in the hour that followed, I have to say that I wasn't impressed by the presentation that was given to the committee by Noel Kelly. I mean, on one hand, he's saying that, you know, he already told them to do this, already told them to do this, now he told them to do this. Yet he still went in and thought for those fees to be underwritten to 75. He trusted them on one respect by filling up the forms, they're filling up the invoices as an instructor. But on the other hand, he wanted to get his hand on the money. But you don't believe, but fundamentally then, Kieran, for that point of stand, you have to, you do not believe that he thought all the while that this money was coming from Renault. And that the only reason it was underwritten was that if Toyota came in, that they'd be able to have an agreement with Toyota, similar to that with Renault, you're not buying that obviously, because his argument falls if you don't buy that. No, and that's the phrase that actually was used. I think it was Alan Kelly or Shane Castles, who I think were two valid members of the committee, two very strong members of the committee. Shane Castles made it very clear, we're not buying it. He told us, it's not credible. It's just not credible at the end of the day, because, you know, he was, he was, when the money didn't turn up, where did Noel Kelly go with the invoice? He went straight back to RTE, and he put pressure on RTE to pay out. And he knew it. I mean, the other thing about, the other thing about this, and this is the, this is the basic point about accountancy. Greg, when was the last time you went into Highland Radio with an invoice for work you're going to do, maybe in the next two years, and asked to be paid that day? I mean, this is crazy, carry on. Nobody could operate in a system whereby invoices are presenters and paid that day for work that hasn't even been done. I imagine going into a garage and let her come in this morning and saying, you know, I did work for you, I'm doing work for you in two years time. The invoice might be paid today. I mean, it was crazy stuff, bad management, bad organ, and that's, that's right. Somebody's fault. That's RTE's fault. But I can tell you for people on the ground like myself, particularly because of the timing of all this Greg, this was going on during the, during the pandemic, the COVID pandemic, when the country was on its knees, lots of people, lots of people, self-employed people, they're in Donegal in business, we're out of work, they lost their company, they lost their finance, they lost their livelihood. And they weren't coming in, they couldn't turn to anybody with an invoice looking for payment for work they never did. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. And RTE have to take a lot of the blame for that, not Ryan Topperty. What, what, what change, how, how then do, do they, they get the ship back on course? Like, I'm curious as to how Ryan Topperty sort of saying, how long? Yeah, I took a 40% pay cut yet he's still clearing close on half a million. How that will play out with producers and members of the news team, who many of our own very modest incomes, like, you know, at the end of the day, he can only go back to his show if people are happy enough to work with him. And he does not, his presence there does not continue this culture that the new DG is trying to get rid of. That's the problem I see for Ryan Topperty. Can that be overcome? Well, I mean, I think when I've lived, there's two, there's two audiences going to decide this. One is the public and the other is RTE, probably RTE management. But the public are asked to look at the quotation from Ryan Topperty yesterday. Yes, the fee, the salary was enormous, but it didn't affect my soul. That's the quotation he left us with after the committee yesterday. Now I don't know how that's going to wash with a lot of people in the public. I really don't. I'm not sure if that was the wisest thing in the world that Ryan Topperty said yesterday. A lot of people will be saying the money was off the wall. It was crazy. You can never be paid that again. And nobody can be paid that again, not just Ryan Topperty. It's just crazy. Now for RTE, they have a decision to make. My theory on this and my own thoughts on it, Gregor, are very straightforward. I think it's time to separate the license fee payments in RTE from the commercial income. And it's my strong view now that unless the RTE news and current affairs and sports departments, I think are the only people who can turn to the license fee in future. That's far as I can stand. They're providing the public service broadcasting. And their costs can be met from the license fee. If one of these faces was stored in the situation and we see the place being run properly. On the other side of the house, I don't think there's any place, any time left for Friday night chat shows or entertainment shows or quiz shows or anything like that being paid for by the public person anymore. If you want to put on these shows and pay these big presenters, then go off and get your own sponsors and advertisers and keep it, divide the two of them, keep them separate, make it very clear. And you know what, in terms of public service, I also hold a strong view that it's time for local radio to be allocated a proper share of the license fee as well. Because as a former local radio presenter myself with Shannon side Northern Sound, I know the quality of local radio news and current affairs and sports that's been provided. And to be quite frank about it, I think that's where the license fee and the public, if there's a new charge applied, that's where it should be applied because of the quality of the service that is being provided there. Public service broadcasting, not party political broadcast, not sponsored program, public service news, current affairs and sport. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Listen, thanks, Kieran, for taking the call this morning. Really nice to chat to you. No problem, great. Good morning. All right, Kieran. Take care. Kieran Mulally there. We're going to get the reaction now after this short break from Donald Gold deputy Thomas Pringle, who was quite vocal, having watched what happened yesterday. Keep your views and calls coming in. The 90 noon show is brought to you by letter Kenny credit union with monster loans available up to 60,000 euro for all occasions. Visit letter Kenny, see you. Hipp and knee pain can be debilitating. 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Do you have much time for Ryan to probably before this morning Greg? Yeah, I suppose that's a fair enough question. I wouldn't have thought much on one way or another. Take it or leave it. Okay, I get you. So but you've nothing, you've no bitterness towards him. Yeah, so so then what what do you think of went down yesterday? I think basically, like, obviously, we've, we've heard Ryan says the story. And we've heard already said the story. The two don't match up in the truth. The truth is somewhere in the middle, probably. But I think it's clear from yesterday that Ryan, either Ryan Toberty or his agent knew exactly what RDE we're doing. And we're quite happy to go along with it. And I think the most telling point. Can I ask you a question about that? Because that's really critical because both of them came in in front of the Eroctus and in front of a huge audience and stated as fact that they thought the two payments were coming from Renault. They thought that account in Britain must be from Renault. And they believe that RTE just wanted these anonymized consultancy fees. Why does why don't you believe that? Because this is what it comes to that. That means that they must have come in and fabricated that for you to hold your view. So what is it about that that you just don't see is credible? Well, it was part of the overall savings from yesterday. And that was part of the overall contract that the 80,000 pound would be forthcoming. Now, they may have thought it was from Renault, but they knew it would have been paid by RTE. They done the invoices at the behest of RTE. And they put down that it was for consultancy fees because that's what RTE wanted. So obviously, I mean, somebody wanted to hand me 80,000 euro and I wanted an invoice done in that way. I think I would want to know why. And you would know what it's about as well. So I don't think that's really what it is. And I think that the truth is probably somewhere in between between what RTE said the last day and what Ryan Toberty said yesterday. The truth is somewhere in the middle and that's what we have to get. Are the Iraqis has to get to the bottom of Yeah. And this is not really a political or journalist question is such a bit more an observation from, you know, even as listeners or just regular taxpayers or license fee payers. If Ryan Toberty were perhaps, if he put a little bit of distance between himself and Noel Kelly, he'd be riding high right now. Because I think really his, as I said to a previous guest there, the fact that he stood by him and backed him on it and said he trusted him. He still shackled to this controversy. I think if he'd have allowed it, if he'd have broke it away from that little bit and going, Well, actually, you know, maybe Noel should have asked those questions. Ryan Toberty would be planning what's on his show next Monday morning. I think I think even if he came in and said, Yeah, I should have held, I should have asked those questions, put his hand up and said, Look, you know, yeah, I should have and I didn't and I'm sorry for that. And, you know, I think that would have went a long way to it. I mean, I think the thing that struck me from both RTE and Ryan Toberty's forms is that what I've seen of it, I haven't seen it all like, of course, but the thing that struck me about it is that basically, they're all trying to cover up their elements in the needle, which means that the whole thing falls apart. And the nobody's actually come and cleaned and saying, look, this is what happened. This is what we did. And I think that's all that people really want. Now, obviously, if that is what happened, then there may be consequences on foot of that as well. Again, that's clear from RTE because the, I mean, they blamed it all on D Forbes. D Forbes is actually retired now. So everything's grand. So let's move on. And that clearly is not the way and you see that Kevin Bacourst has got rid of, I think, four or five of the management committee that were involved in that. And he's looking to get rid of more of them. And I would say, even listening to his comments on Monday, I would doubt whether Ryan Toberty would be back on RTE as well. Not with an old collar, he won't. But a question, a question for you just about the the OCTAS committees again, because I put it to a previous guest. You're an elected representative. So I want to put it to you. We've heard the public disquiet about these high wages for years and years and years. We knew that staff internally weren't happy that they are being asked to pay take pay cuts. And yet these big figures were being published. Do you think the the public's account committee or the communications committee should have been asking these tough questions long before now saying, come in here now and explain to us why you're still publishing massive salaries for some. And yet others are being asked to pay take pay cuts. We've been contacted by RTE staff to say they're upset. They don't like the culture within RTE. What are you going to do to change that culture? I really don't think that those committees should get off scott free and all of this, Thomas. I'm just interested from your perspective as an elected TD, if you in any way would share that view. I'm not asking you to call out your colleagues, some are independent, some are of parties and what have you. But I really think that those committees are grand for grandstanding and try and get your little clips for your Facebook page or whatever it might be. But you know, they they didn't ask the questions when the public were asking the questions. Yeah. And that's that's a problem actually, a parliamentary problem, I think as well with the old all and that the the Iraqis committees are quite powerful and can do a lot of work and a lot of good work. But the problem is that a lot of the work goes unnoticed. And politicians probably works in more so than anybody else want public attention for for the work they're doing and stuff like that there. And so the work goes unnoticed. And so therefore there's not much attention. And so then you get these big events like the like the Ryan Dobry thing, you get all this grandstand and you know, and people looking to get their get their minute of fame and relationship and stuff like that. And that undermines, I think, the value that the committee system could have. And you're right, I think the committees could be looking at a lot closer at what already are doing now. As far as I know, and I could be wrong on this, but as far as I know, the public accounts committee that already isn't directly responsible to the public accounts committee. So that's that means that whether what role they could have and actually question RT and I don't know, I think they got some sort of special dispensation to actually deal with this event over the last couple of weeks. So that's but I'm part of the routine thing. They mean the media committee could be dealing with RDA on a regular basis and asking these questions. But the part of the problem then to say if somebody raises this bogus self employment issue that's going on with an RDA, they would say, well, that's not the media committee. That's social welfare committee. They should be dealing with that. Then there would be a bit of our statements of the answer to see who would who would deal with it. But I think I think really, and truly the committees can do a lot more work and could be a lot more effective if politicians would engage with them as well, too. I think it's very important. And you know, and I think one of the things too that you would notice as well from the committee, yes, is some people love to hear themselves talking and they would just go on that. And the way the committee system works like you have 10 minutes. And I was on the committee last week and we were told we had 10 minutes to ask our questions. And some members took nine and a half minutes to ask. I think the chair and, you know, I think the chair needs to say, well, now is that a question? You know, you'll see that it can. Is that a question or is that a statement? Well, I think that what happens is the chair said, like, you can make a statement or you can ask questions. Okay, so they can use the 10 minutes. Okay, right. Yeah, you can use the 10 minutes to do whatever you want to. But I mean, what's the point in sitting there for 10 minutes and waxing like yourself a bit something you should be using to ask questions and listening to answers from the from the witnesses. So I think, listen, I think everyone wants to draw a line under this. I think this is the last week, really, where there's going to be public appetite to hear about anything more than this other than what changes are happening and how things are going to progress into the future. You know, the, the personalities and all that kind of stuff. I think people are really quite bored of that now. I could be wrong, but I believe that to be the case. I'm sort of tired of it at this point, I'm sure you are as well. So what do you want or what is enough from Kevin Backhurst now moving forward? We heard from the former, we heard from the former political, the former RT Midlands correspondent, Kierma Lally, who says, look at the way pages of wages are done and who's paid what and how they're paid. All that needs to change. I think really this is about making the staff happy as well. So what do you want to see happen going forward now? Well, actually, I would like to see the content to conversation continue normally. I think what we have to do is, as the Irish people, I used to prefer it when you're on the phone. I could roll my eyes on the QT. I did that as Jess. Go ahead, Thomas, go ahead. Actually, I think what we have to do as an Irish public in that there is we have to think about what we want from RT and what we want RT to be. And if we accept that RT is going to be a public service broadcaster and provide a public service, then we have to pay for that. And I think a lot of the problems have arisen from this of the dual nature of RT, where it gets revenue in from the private sector, but also depends on public funding. And so I think if we want a public service broadcaster, we have to pay for a public service broadcaster. And then that would actually free up a lot of the private money then to go to the truly private broadcasters as well. And that would make more money available to them. I'm careful that he made an interesting point. Yeah, he made an interesting point. If you're doing big quiz shows, if you're doing like Toy Store, the musical, or if you're doing make them commercial, get a sponsor, pay for them through the sponsorship money. And then, you know, there's, you know, if they're successful, everyone makes money. If they're not the taxpayer, it's not necessarily on the hook. Thomas, yeah, go ahead. You still don't know what relationship then the sponsor would have with the organization as well. You know, so you could be sponsoring a toy show, the musical, losing money, knowing that you're getting a good deal for something else. Yeah, exactly. Credits or something. Okay, I get you. Thanks for your time. I appreciate you accepting the invite. Thomas Pringle there. All right, okay. 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Hi Greg, I've got no time for Ryan Topperty as a presenter, but fair play to him if he's able to demand that kind of money and pays his tax on it. He only did what all of us would do. It's not as if he was caught on camera, except in a brand envelope for some sort of illegal behaviour, which is a fair comment, I think. Then polls are a joke. Speak to the people on the street. He's done and the UK can have him. Fed up listening about RTE now. Sure, nobody in Donegal listens to RTE radio anyway. Ok, do they not? I don't know. We kind of have a fair idea who listens and where. Whatever way you want to present RTE and the highest presenter, it's in this opinion fraud. After what I said yesterday, Topperty was not fully honest and threw RTE under the boss, and he thought he was on stage of radio with his display. Answer what question? Any tricky one, he passed the money, signed the contract, and he stalled until the extra 75 grand popped onto the table. Good luck to Ryan Topperty walking back into that office, despite his justifications on his self-value. His colleagues clearly don't share the same view. He may find his staff will be less willing to work with him from here on in, and I think you've hit on what is the big challenge for him. Listeners, you put washing machine on at 9 o'clock on RTE radio one in the morning, you'll get a decent listenership forward. The public will go along with it. It was a big, big story. We had to cover it. I hope I didn't bore you with it, but as I say, it's just been the hot topic now for quite some time. I would like to see it move off the news cycle so we can get back to more serious matters. Of course, I do recognise that that is in and of itself a serious matter, but I think you get my point. We all know how we think now at this stage, don't we? All right, I'm saying, by the way, keep your texts and calls coming in. We're not brushing onto the carpet. 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But it cannot be solved by this government or the parties that created and deepened the housing emergency. Only a change of government will deliver. RTE has many questions to answer after yesterday's committee hearings with Ryan Topperday and his agent Noel Kelly. The state broadcaster is due back before the public accounts committee tomorrow. They have to review claims that numerous RTE executives were aware of the side deal done with Reynolds and that it was underwritten by the broadcaster. PAC member James O'Connor says they also want to ask former director General D Forbes what it was about when she was fit and well enough. I went through one by one because I was the opening speaker on the public accounts committee where they first came before us. And I asked who was aware and who knew. And I've no doubt in my mind the people we were looking at that day had a very strong understanding of who was involved in those talks. 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Subject of fare usage, 12.99 a month after the first three months. 650 one-time activation fee, c48.ie. Okie dokie, very welcome back to the 9 till noon show. It's good to have you on board today. Good morning if you are after joining us. I hope those who stayed with us for the first hour would agree it was an interesting first hour. Just to let you know what's coming up after 11 by the way, Mary Ferry of Genesis Skin and Hair Studio will join us in studio after 11. So if you have any questions, call text or call text or WhatsApp right now. So any questions about your skin, care of your skin, treatment of your skin, all that kind of stuff. Get in touch with us now. 07491 25000 to give us a call or text 08 660 25000. So Mary Ferry taking all your skin care and general care questions there. Ryan Tauberty will be replaced by AI shortly anyway and reap megabook. So what's the difference a Ryan bot? Did you see what Stephen Nolan's pay is? You have to try and keep the goose that lays the golden egg. Tauberty did bring in the revenue re adds that comes in from Kathleen. It's never really been quite clear though. You know, that's would be like saying that my I'm not comparing myself. I'm going to the local rate just to be clear. I think everyone knows local radio national radio are two completely different things. It's like comparing apples with oranges, but it would be like me trying to claim that all of the wonderful advertisers that support Highland radio and vice versa that I could add up every ad break. It's worth all through these through ours and then say, oh, look, I should be paid 300,000 euro a year because look at all the but the ads are scheduled for the show. I mean, what what really is my role in any of that? It's zero. I would imagine I'm guessing and I don't know otherwise. So I don't know like this whole thing about bringing in ads. I mean, the sales teams bring in the ads. It's they that have the relationships with the advertisers I presume. I don't know. It's not my area of business, but it's not the presenter or such. I don't think anyone does anyone would anyone advertise on a particular show because of a particular presenter? Maybe you might not. I don't know. But I don't know. As I say, that's put out there, Kathleen. But my point is, is how do we prove that? You know, when who stands in for him, Oliver Callan, this is the same amount of adverts are on when Oliver Callan's in. And when the new fellow takes over the late show, the ad breaks on going to disappear. The same people are going to be there. Reynolds going to be there backing the late show there. They've still got their deal. So again, I don't fully buy that an individual brings in the advertising money, as I could be wrong. Sensible comments from Kieran says a listener there. RT should not be a partner in GEA Goal says another no way. Yeah, it is a little bit riding two horses. A caller says, Ryan lost me at the I'm a champion of the children and education to make life better. He will forever be known as Yes, the salaries enormous, but that doesn't affect my soul. Clearly a man not living in the real world. And I tuned in for a short while to live line yesterday afternoon, just was in the car up in Bunkrana, actually, and bumped into a few people up in Bunkrana. It was lovely to see people up there. And we're up in a shop up there. I can't remember anyway, but we buying stuff amazing, amazing. Don't think I can mention anyway. But it was lovely to get a few waves and a few hellos from people in and around Bunkrana. Why did I mention that? Oh, yeah, I was in the car, listened to a bit of live line. And what you see now is callers going, Well, you know, I think one caller put it to Joe Duffy that, you know, you don't really get it, you know, you're you don't you don't know what it's like living in the real world. And obviously, you know, he's backwards up a little bit and says, well, how do you know you don't know what crosses people are carrying? I know that's true. But if you've got a lot of money, it doesn't mean you're immune from, you know, other stuff that goes on in life, but you are insulated from that stress. I mean, you know, out there, when money's tight, it's hard to, you know, people get stressed with each other, people, you know, feel under pressure, you're wondering how you're going to do this, that and the other. And then you have to deal with maybe a sick relative or parent or something, you know, or a sick child. And then but if you are sort of insulated in your wealth, or even nice house, you don't ever have to worry about money. Yeah, you do have to deal with the other things in life. I don't begrudge anyone having money. And I'm delighted. I wish everyone listening was a millionaire. But my point is, is you can't really fully understand what it's like for other people, because you don't really have to consider how much a price bag of coal is anymore. You don't really, you know, yourself where you're trying to decide when to buy your home heat and oil, because, you know, I could, we can afford that now, but what if it goes up 100 quid next month, you know, those types of every day conversations, like when you get big back in after your weekly shop, and it's like 180 quid for all of that, or 80 quid for all of that, depending on the size of your family. So I think, you know, when you when you have an awful lot of money, you are somewhat insulated from that. So I think really these presenters who are on big money are in some way different to the general population as much as as much as they might suggest they aren't. A caller says, I watched yesterday's proceedings and thought it was a damp squib. Noel Kelly said he did everything at the behest of RTE, but nobody asked who the personal persons was who made the request. Kelly's explanation about the blank invoice for consultancy fees to an unfamiliar company in the UK is not even slightly plausible plausible. Ryan Tabor he gave absolutely no insight into the events and only spoke of his love for children and hatred of world poverty on his own charitable achievements. He reminded me of the utterance of every Miss World winner after they'd received their crown and tiara. The whole thing was a farce. I wonder why Renault didn't have someone there to clarify any points where they could have been any confusion. Well, I think their position is pretty clear in a way. I can understand why they're not getting all the attention. It was the former director of commercial that instructed the raising of those invoices. That was said during the testimony yesterday. Another while every part of me is angry at the money Ryan Taborty is being paid yesterday. The entire event was embarrassing. The bullying type of questions of the holier than the politicians. We are no further forward. An absolute waste of time and more money. More money for all involved says another Ryan Taborty is as guilty as the rest in RT was him who made the deal about taking money under the table. It wasn't under the table, but I understand your phrasing. He can dress it up whatever way he wants. He's guilty and RT are a disaster to the country making people pay for a TV license so they can have a lavish lifestyle on the people of Ireland off the backs. Never again will I pay a TV license. Hi Greg, a big shout out to the man following Ryan Taborty with the TV stamp license book indeed. When this first started, a couple of people texted in that the license inspector was around. Knock on doors just as it all was breaking and you think, you know, take the day off son. Good morning, Greg. You forgot to tell your listeners that it was RT that paid him the money for not Renault. He got paid for the work yet he hasn't done the work yet. Why isn't that money given back to the state? Cab needs to be called in to investigate. No, that was stated. The whole conversation is all about that. What I stated was is that it was Noel Kelly's contention that that money was being paid by the company and not RT and he swears that that's the case. They did not believe that that money was coming for RT. They were also questioned and Ryan Taborty said, and I'm not a spokesperson for him, just trying to relate everything that went on. He said that if the company don't want him to do those gigs, then he'll give the money back. But the question is, is to whom? Right. Okay. I could know a couple of these before we move on to other things. In accounting, surely it's practice to only issue an invoice after good services were delivered. Indeed, that's a really good point. Noel Kelly did wrong. And it's the cause of Ryan Taborty's mess today, which makes it even more the surprise that Ryan Taborty went to his defense so strongly. Greg would use not give Tubbs a few hours up at Highland to keep them in work. I think we'd all have to get rid of every single staff member to cover the wages. I agree that Ryan Taborty was absolutely playing to the one for everyone in the audience crowd yesterday. If the truth be told, he should go voluntarily. Has the man no dignity? I mean, he's blaming RT, but at the same time wants to go back to work for them. Why? Is it because he actually believes he's the best and most important broadcaster we have and his ego doesn't want to let it all go when he needs the platform? Listen, make no mistakes. As I said earlier, there's lots of people who thought they were bigger than the organization they were working for leave. And then all of a sudden, the bottom falls out of those book deals. And all of a sudden, you're falling out with RT and you want to make a documentary about JFK. Where do you go? Who do you go to? There's no one else. It's the only show in town you have to keep. I mean, obviously, there is the Virgin Media outfit, but they do a different type of program. They do the channel five type of programs. They don't have half a million to chuck at, you know, you know, some person's retrospective on American politics. So if you want to if in this small pond, you want to keep doing what you want to do, you have to cozy up for RT. Sorry, Greg, you're so wrong. The general public think the two of them can go can the two of them are BSers. We just done what RT asked. It doesn't watch. Okay, thank you for that. As I say, I'm just trying to, you know, get the conversation going. Why wasn't Pierce Doherty asking questions at the pack? Isn't he an accountant? Some of those asking questions were way out of their depth. 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Good to have you back. Good morning, Greg. This is an important one, isn't it? And the spiking is, it's a difficult one because we cover it quite regularly here because people get reports of it or people believe their drinks have been spiked. Then it can be a difficult one for Guardi to investigate or to track down CCTV or to prove it happens. So we're going from a position, aren't we, where we must believe that it is somewhat widespread, but statistically it can be a little bit difficult to prove that. Yeah, so I suppose the statistics are really interesting. If you look at the rates of spiking that have occurred since COVID-19 restrictions lifted, they've gone way up. And I suppose what's really worrying about that is with any issues like this, there is always an element of spiking that goes on that isn't reported. So the figures are often, only a snapshot of what's going on. So I suppose what this bill will do is currently spiking is prosecuted under the poisoning act, under poisoning legislation, which carries with it just a maximum three-year sentence. But our bill will make it a standalone offence, which I think is important in recognising the severity of the issue, but it'll also carry with it then a maximum 10-year sentence, which I think is appropriate given the severity of the issue. And also vape spiking. That's not something I've ever heard of before, to be completely honest. Talk to me a little bit about that. Yeah, so this is something I only became aware of in recent weeks, Greg. It's something that has started happening in the last couple of weeks. I'm not sure the specifics of how it happens, but it just shows another element of spiking can happen in any form. And it's just, it's really disappointing that young people and predominantly young females can't just go out on a night out and not have to worry about something like this happening. And I suppose as well as that, it's not just the young females, but it's also like parents and families as well, who just have an adult worry now when their family member goes on a night out. And I don't think this new legislation, and we'll talk about its pathway in a moment, I don't think it will be tested almost in terms of how many people are convicted under it, or how many receive that maximum sentence. It's effectively, also as a society, I think, saying that we recognise this is happening. We believe it to be a very serious crime, and these are the deterrents. So in other words, I think the real value in this will be the message it sends out, the conversation, and of course that deterrent Owen. That's exactly it. And I think, you know, this alone won't stop spiking, but it will be an important tool in stopping it. So we in young finnegale hour, we've called this our Prickless Knights campaign. So the three elements to that we have the first is this legislative aspect, second of which then is we've called on pubs and nightclubs to do a lot more to curb spiking. We've asked them to make drink lids and bottle stoppers freely available, which we think will be another tool in stopping it. But thirdly, I think we've called for a sort of wider stakeholder campaign awareness campaign, just in terms of looking at the spotting the science of spiking, what you can do with someone is spiked, you know, so start to finish and just help the people every step of the way. Yeah. And I think it's really important that pubs and nightclubs seem to be really proactive in this because if there's one case, it's rep, there's reputational damage there, two or three cases, you know what I mean? All of a sudden, everyone's talking about it. Now, I'm not saying that there should be their motivation, you know, obviously it's the health and well-being of their clients, which I'm sure is their key concern. But what I'm saying is, is it makes sense for everyone to have a buy-in to put signs up to say, you know, we have CCTV, you know, all that kind of stuff it would, so that in other words, patrons and their families, particularly for younger people can feel that this is a safe space and management aware of this goes on. And, you know, they're aware of the laws and they want to make sure that this is completely and utterly unacceptable. That's exactly it. And, you know, it's just sending a message that this won't be tolerated. You won't get away with it. So don't do it. I mean, we have meetings lined up over the next couple of months with several premises and with security associations looking in terms of what can bouncers do when people are coming into the premises, can they try and spot the signs of substances being brought in, etc. So I think all of these things combined will make a big difference. So what is the pathway now for this actually being, because the wills can move quite slowly. And I suppose it's important that any new legislation or any new laws are rigorously tested and questioned and maybe they can be expanded or whatever it might be. So what is the process now? It's a big step to get it to committee stage. But what then happens next? Yeah, so I suppose we would have been really enthused. We've had great buy-in from the Finnegale Group of senators, the likes of Regina Darity and Barry Ward have given us great support in terms of sponsoring this bill. So it's moved quite quickly in the last couple of months. We've had first and second stage within the last six weeks or so. We obviously have committee stage today. So that'll be the opportunity for senators to give their feedback or criticisms and add to the bill. And then after that, it'll go to Dallair and then it'll have to go through there. But at the last stage in the Shannot at the time, it was Minister Harris was the acting Minister for Justice and spoke very favourably of the bill. So we're hopeful that Minister McIntyre will be very supportive of it too. And she said a good precedent in terms of making standalone offences, the likes of strangulation and stalking. So it's very much in line with what has been done in recent years. Yeah. And it's one of those where you can't really see where the resistance might come from. You know, we do have certain lobby groups that might try and have their say in certain different types of legislation. But this one seems to be like, I can't imagine anyone trying to put a, you know, a strong convincing argument on any level really be commercial, whatever it might be against this really, which I think is beneficial in its introduction. Yeah. So again, at the last stage of the Shannot, it really did get cross party support. Everybody spoke highly of it and spoke of the, what I spoke to, I suppose, of, you know, people who got in touch with them and told them their stories of spiking. I mean, we had a survey recently and hopefully get about spiking, you know, the stats and stories that we got were very worrying. And I think the senators across all parties and none had the same experience. Yeah. And we have to help victims out on this one because of the nature of it and dependent what's used and what have you, it can be a couple of days before the facts become apparent and certain things may or may not show up in tests. And also, you know, I think this is sort of offering a bit of support for those who maybe felt they weren't believed. Yeah. And also, I mean, you know, you might recover after a few days from an instance like this in terms of health wise, but the anxiety that a person has then going out on a night out after that, it really sticks for a long time. And again, it's the family and the people around them that just have that added anxiety, which I don't think it shouldn't be the case, you know, people should be able to go on a night out and not have to worry about something like this. All right, okay. Listen, thanks for the time. We'll follow this with interest. Take care. That's Owen Gallagher, president of Young Fina Gale there. Would you please say a big happy birthday to a lovely lady in Murrowfield, Kathleen Croson. Tell her we will see her tonight. Have the kettle on for Molly, Drew, Hugo and Rose. Have a wonderful day, Kathleen. I hope you're listening. 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Look the part, play the part, in store and online. Click and collect on bmcsports.ie. OK, you're very welcome back to the programme. We say good morning now to David Mahan, the Grand Master of the Orange Order in Donegal. Thank you very much for joining us, David. Good morning. Good to have you with us. A successful event in Rossnalla, that's not all, we're just referencing that, but a good day? Yeah, a good day, good crowds and good weather. Yeah, OK, brilliant stuff. Now, there have been some proposals, I think, from the Green Party to make the 12th of July an all-arland public holiday. Is that something that you would welcome, David, if that were to come to pass? I think it's a nice gesture, but I don't think it's really practical. The cost to business, like for having another bank holiday, you know, would be very high. I wouldn't be popular, I don't think. Yeah, and I suppose then it comes down to someone, if they're working, to make that choice themselves and to maybe use a day of annual leave if they want the day off. Yeah, I think what most of our members will do is they'll maybe plan their holidays because up to the 12th, they'll be old days to work and they'll use one of their days up. And I think most employers, if somebody wants to go and tell them what they're doing, they'll let them off. And I think you're being very pragmatic in that, you know, is it practical? But, you know, we have some of the lowest numbers of public holidays in Ireland when compared to our European neighbours. So if we were to add one, let's just say, like we did last year or the year before, would you campaign for it to be the 12th of July? Well, I'd welcome it, like, but I mean, I just know the cost on business. I run business myself. I think of an off-bike holiday. Yeah, OK. Let's bring in Councillor Mee-Hool Cullum, McGill and Asperg. Thank you very much for joining us, Mee-Hool. Greg, would you back these calls from Patrick Costlow? He's a member of the Good Friday Agreement or Octus Committee. He's calling on the government to legislate today, a public holiday. I would certainly back and welcome an extra bank holiday for the hard-working workers right across the whole state, but I certainly won't be back in any suggestions from a liberal Green Party to suggest that we should be calling for a bank holiday to celebrate the Orange Order, a date that's obviously very important to them, but we need to look at who exactly the Orange Order is. What did they celebrate? The history of the Orange Order, the impact that the Orange Order has had on our communities and continues to have on our community, what their ideological positions are in terms of a lot of issues, a very sectarian position they hold on some issues, and for me the idea that we would be celebrating an organisation that is seen by most as a very backward, non-progressive sectarian and quite a lot of the time a violent organisation. All right, David, that's not a very kind assessment of the Orange Order from the councillor there. Well, I wouldn't share his views like that, he's taken his own views, but I wouldn't share them. Why not? What did he say there that you believe to be incorrect? Well, I think Wolfman's incorrect. All right, for what reasons, David? For various reasons, like, you know, it's not, you know, we have our fellow, have you seen the Saturday past? That's our 12th of July period. I like to see anything wrong with it, like. Yeah, and I suppose, you know, there are those within the Orange Order who perhaps see annually the bad publicity that comes from ethnicities and posters and stuff being put on bonfires. I'm not saying they're all interlaced, don't get me wrong. But I mean, presumably, David, you condemn those types of actions. Not that that's what the councillor was referring to. But it doesn't help in trying to get a more progressive message out there. Like me and you've, you know, you're tempted to do an interview with me in the past. Yeah, no, I would deploy any of them burning flags or effigies of anybody. You know, we would deploy that. And that's really carrying out the small minority of people that it has bonfires that may be under the control of nobody in the local community. They're not Orange Order responses. Yeah, no, and I hope I made that distinction. But kind of sir, me whole column, like, is it not the case, though, that, you know, if we are to move forward, that we have to recognize that everybody has their history. Everybody has the past. Some people have different points of view, you know, and that to move forward, we, you know, that we have to recognize all of our differences. Okay. I often hear people talk about moving forward to move on, forget about the past, to be more inclusive. But my, and I'm not always clear what that means, or where the people are coming from, who says that, or what maybe agenda of none have to have any or just a cliche or something just to say. But for me, I find it extremely difficult. I've been to 12th of July, March is quite a lot of them in my past. Unfortunately, it's on the other side, protecting communities that I was. And I've seen the violence at first hand from the Orange Order from their members. We've seen Orange Order members right through history and I'm an atheist passion against Catholic churches, protesting outside churches. We've seen what we call the Orange Order playing sectarian music outside churches. Yeah, but the whole column, yeah, but I get you. No, I understand. No, you've made, you've made your point, but let me put it to you like this. No, but I want to get up to the very present day. Okay, go ahead then. Up to the very present day. So we've seen effigies of politicians were in the free state on top of bonfires. We've seen tricolors and a tricolor that is seen by most as a very progressive flag, that represents different sections of our community. But yet the Orange Order on the 11th night would find it quite happily to see it born on top of bonfires. And we can say what we want, that it's communities, that it's maybe the UVF or the UDA. But by whole, this is a part of the 12th celebration. We see now yet again, the Orange Order looking to march in a very, very predominantly Unionist, loyalist community and ported down. But yet one of the only nationalist enclaves, they're now looking back to march down to give a high road. And it'd be interesting to hear, was David himself ever a march in looking to march down to give a high road? Because for me, the idea and the ideology of the Orange Order, and it'd be worth here and David's break that down, what that's about. I mean, David, do you want to have another question for me whole column? But do you want to respond to that? I mean, have you ever marched down the give a high road one to two? Or do you understand why people might want to? Probably local people have their own reasons. But I've never marched down the give a high road. I'm a tension of getting into confrontation with anybody on the give a high road. But I think what they're talking about now is getting consensus between the give a high road and the local Orange District and ported down. I think they're talking about. But may whole column, let me put it to you like this, though. I mean, your painting, right, the entire Orange Order area in a certain light. I've spoken to David in the past and he talks about where they might be going into the future. But let's just say, and I'm not trying to catch you or anything. I'm not trying to be smart. No, but you'd be a big advocate of Palestine and the people of Palestine. Justice and freedom should be 100 percent. But you do that in full knowledge that, let's say, for instance, if you were a member of the LGBT POS community over there, you would face bigotry, you'd face restrictions on who you could be with, how you could act, you would face restrictions on getting out and exercising your civil rights and marching in the streets. So you're able to cherry pick that and such a firm backing of Palestine and ignore certain elements of how they operate and their ideology and their religion and their culture. But you're not able to afford the Orange Order that same grace. Well, I think that's two different things. And I'm quite happy to come on Highland and talk about that. I'm also a strong advocate for the LGBT POS community. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But you wouldn't do that. But you wouldn't march with them in Palestine. Well, I think your view and I think it would be worth this is in Palestine and maybe talking to quite a lot of progressive Palestinians communities. And I don't mean just individuals of this painted view, but going back to the question. Yes, but my point then is, you see, I anticipated your answer, and that's why I said in advance that I wasn't trying to catch you out. But what I'm saying is maybe you should have a meeting, a conversation, with people that are more progressive within the Orange Order. I have met people within the Orange Order. Hi, this is at Orange Halls, within Donegal. I would have good, you know, because I'm very conscious of this interview and how that impacts some of the relationships that I have felt up over the years with the London Dairy Bands Forum within Unionists, within the Dairy Walls, within Loyalists and Unionists right across the six counties and here in Donegal. I have been proactive along with others, meeting in rooms over many, many, many years. And we have had challenges and we've had blunt conversations similar to what we've had here. And I will continue to build a relationship with Stewart and others that have been working with through the years. And for me, this is not a reactionary response for me because of what some Liberal Green Party TD Costler wants to put forward to get some publicity. Who hasn't, I believe, taught this too. I'm more than happy to debate that with him. But for me, I have been engaged in for a very, very long time. Doesn't sound like those engagements went very tight. It doesn't sound like those engagements. That's what I was saying. Doesn't sound like those engagements went very well for you given very successful and they will continue to be successful. But we have to call it for what it is. The orange order by nature is a sectarian organization, an organization that is not progressive, an organization who wants to continue. Are you saying there's no one within it that's progressive that there is no there's no people within it that sort of want to see some change themselves? Are you saying that's the case? There's no one in it that depends on your definition of progression. You mentioned the LGBT community earlier on. I know UBS people that I would engage with on a very, very regular basis who are very pro LGBT community. But yes, we'll march and we'll be marching as we speak today. And for me, when you define yourself as a loyalist, which some it's not all of the orange order members that I've met, and then they got to find themselves as loyalists, for me, that is not progressive because we need to look at what is that loyalty to loyalty to an imperialist nation who occupies our country, which has for 800 years, the orange order being a part of that reactionary force to dominate the nationalist community. And if we're going to be honest about this, let's be honest and let's talk it through. And what David, they are more than content to sit down and have conversations with them. But I cannot sit down and think different and say different. No, no, no, no. I can only say what I genuinely think. No one would try and no one would try and convince you to do other sites otherwise. But David Mahan, we have to move forward here. We share the space. And it's not just Republicans and loyalists that live on this island now. There's a massive group of individuals that have no play. They've no skin in this game at all that have their own religious beliefs that perhaps maybe me hall column might take issue with as well. But perhaps I don't know me hall. Would you do that publicly? But you know, there are different organizations, different groups, different religions that now populate this this island that are very different views to you. In fact, perhaps have more in common with with other groups. But David either way, David Mahan, we're going to have to we have to share this space, whether it's divided by a border or not into the future. We have to find a way to live together, respect each other's cultures and move forward, David. Yes, I fully agree that we need to be progressive and move forward and meet and talk and deal with any issues that we're not dealing from arguing or falling out of each other, we'll deal and be talking. Yeah, all right. David, David, can I ask a question? And again, no more than what Greg wasn't trying to catch anybody out, right? I'm rared. I was rared. I was born into a family which would I'm not so sure if they were atheists or just weren't practicing Catholics. Most of my family in Scotland are married and two people of the Protestant faith and another faith. And a lot of my first cousins are baptized under the Church of Scotland. And for me, I ended up ended up in coming a atheist, good or bad. But let's pretend I wasn't an atheist. Let's pretend I was a Catholic. Could I join the Orange Order? You didn't apply? Anybody can apply to join the Orange Order? So it's a myth to say that the Orange Order does exclude Catholics. So that's a myth. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying is anybody can join the Orange Order along with the belief in the evangelical, reformed Protestant faith. So basically, it has to be a Catholic. Well, there's, there'd be ex-Catholics active members of the Order. I'm not talking about ex-Catholics. I'm talking about Catholics who are practicing, who goes to Mass on a Sunday, does the old rosary stuff. But he's very strongly And the faith in Rome and the Pope and their bishops and their local priests, can they join the Orange Order? Well, I would just say the other, but you have to remember the evangelical Protestant faith and that's an open place to worship. Yeah, but me whole column, I mean, you know, that you could say that of any organization. Do you know what I mean? Could I, you know, could I? We're not talking about organizations. We're talking about the Orange Order. So for me, that's discriminating against, no more than we wouldn't exclude women from golf courses. We wouldn't exclude women from football teams. No, no, it doesn't. It's wrong. Yeah. But I mean, like why would a fully fledged member of Finafoul want to sit in on, you know, Finaigale parliamentary party meetings? I mean, you know, it's what you're interested in. Well, really, let's be honest, there ain't no difference there now. That's another conversation I'm not getting into. Listen, David Mahan, thank you very much for your time. David Mahan, the grandmaster of the Orange Order and also Councillor Meeho, Colin McGill and Asberg, and we'll have another person's voice on this after these. The Ninetyl Noon Show is brought to you by Letter Kenny Credit Union, offering low-rate car loans with fast approval. Apply online at letterkennycu.ie or in office today. Bolder dash, poppycock, porky pies, whispers, untruths, fake news, or as the kids say, cap. Sees have been planted that Skoda has no stock. Let's put the rumors to bed. At Skoda, we have Scala, Superb, Octavia and the fully electric Enyec all in stock, ready for immediate delivery and to drive home today. 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Say consult.donegall for more details. Oh Kido, Michael joins us now. Michael, your views on the last conversation. Good morning to you. Good morning Greg. Well now I was just listening and someone's kind of annoyed me there. We afforded our hospitality to these people last Saturday up on Roussouda and safely they came in, they had their good day, they marched and they went back home that night, someone that maybe I'm not saying there's them all and they lit a bonfire, they burned our flag, they burned an effigy of our tisha. I don't think it was a very nice way of saying thanks like for affording them hospitality. It's only six months ago that they celebrated and saw and drinking and an orange hall, the death of Michaela Hart and I felt a little bit hurt about it. We let them in, sell and let them march, do you know? This was an orange hall. So that's just a point that I have to make Greg was listening to the discussion there. I'm not by no means, I have some very good friends but at the same time in that religion I was just annoyed, you know. But it's not obviously, you've got the radio on in the background so there's going to be a slight echo but we'll get through it Michael. But you're not saying, you're not blaming all of the orange order. I mean the orange order have come out. No, no, no. But you know, we're talking Greg about moving on and good relationship and all. It's a very poor way of doing it, like you know. Can you get me a point? Like that's, you know, I'm not a good talker or speaker. I'm just an ordinary citizen. You're doing fantastic Michael. You're doing fantastic Michael and I appreciate you coming on so don't you worry about it. You're as good as anyone that comes on the show. Thanks for your time. That's alright. And your point's well made. And get back in touch with us again now. You've broke the duck now. You can do it again now, Michael. Sorry when you see Greg. I'm saying come back on again. Good man. Thanks very much indeed. Right, OK. Jane's with us on line one. Hi Jane. Hello, how are you Greg? I'm doing good. Right, it seems from reports today that people of different sexualities and genders that that's going to be normalized in the leaving cert. Is that something you welcome or not? No, I don't welcome it. I'm a Christian parent. I don't welcome it at all. Tell me why beyond that though. Well, we're Christian and our Christian morals and beliefs is that that sector is a moral and to teach that to a Christian child is going to make that Christian child very uncomfortable in the classroom. But you would accept that would you, Jane, that these people exist? You know, gay people exist, lesbian people exist, trans people exist. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We know they exist and we love we love everybody. That is our Christian belief also, but love the sinner, not the sin. So you believe homosexuality is a sin? Absolutely it is, yes. What would happen though with one of your children said, you know, I like someone of the same sex though, Jane. I'm not trying to catch you out, but I mean, you know, there are people with your views that have to have that conversation. I mean, how would you deal with that then? Well, I've brought my children up Christian, so they know the Christian by the Bible. Now the Bible is the same whether it be Catholic, Protestant, evangelist, the Bible has not changed in 2000 years. The Bible has not changed. And I've brought them up to believe in the Bible and in Jesus Christ. And my children as Christians already feel it uncomfortable in the classroom. In what respect can you say? Well, they do have friends that some of them have an orientation to wargs that gay agenda. And while they're very loving to wargs their friends, they know that what they're doing is wrong and they're they pray for their salvation. Are you comfortable with them having friends that are gay? As long as that influence isn't influenced in their belief. Do you believe someone can be influenced into being gay? Like would you do not believe people are born gay? No, I do not believe anyone is born gay. I believe this is an agenda. And I believe it's been forced down children's throats. And it's a time for the Christian community to stand up and fight for their beliefs now to. And how does one do that? I mean, let's just say, okay, let's say you had the decision and none of this stuff was taught in school. In wider society, are there changes that you would like to see made? I have nothing against someone else's beliefs. If that's their beliefs, Greg, I nearly called Sean. I've nothing against someone else's beliefs, as long as they're not forcing it down others. And as my children are Christian, they're now going to be faced with this education system. And we knew it was common with knowns for the last three or four years that eventually it's going to creep into the system. You see, in fifth or sixth class, in the leaving search cycle, though, Jane, what we're talking about here, your children then will go on to college. They won't have your everyday influence there. They have gone to college and they'll see even more people from different backgrounds, different race, different religions, different sexual orientations. Is it not useful that at some point they learn that people are different and that respect their right to live their lives? They're not going to try and turn them into something they're not in college? Like, is it not positive that they not only have your influence over them, but they also have an understanding that the world is a diverse place and it's never going to go back to the way it might have been hundreds of years ago? Oh, absolutely. But here's my point, Greg. My children already know this. So they're getting one set of beliefs now forced at them. So their belief is Christian. So where does the Christian stand in their beliefs? It's all right, given rules and regulations for LGTB, but what about the rules and regulations for the Christian? This is my point. But the vast majority, the vast majority of people still nowadays are straight, right? So the world is by default set up to recognize that, to understand that. In other words, your children, if your children walk down the street holding hands with their boyfriend or girlfriend, like say, your daughter, I don't need to know whether your children or boys or girls would say you had a daughter and she's walking through the streets of Dublin after college holding hands with her boyfriend. She's not going to be called names or spat at or she's not going to be discriminated because of that. So the world is already set up. Is it not really to be understanding and caring for people of Christian beliefs or straight couples? But if she were to walk down the street holding hands with a girl, she could face abuse. And maybe it's because there's an ignorance because people weren't educated about it in school. That's just a suggestion. Yes. And I understand where you're coming from, Greg. But there's more leeway. I mean, we just come through pride months, right? And there's a lot of people now that are more open. And that is their choice. But my daughter's choice is I don't want anything to do with that sort of teaching. I'm a Christian. I have my Christian beliefs. I sit in the classroom and I'm forced to do maybe homework on this. Yeah. And so where's her choice? Okay, no, that's and that's your view and your daughter's view and you're perfectly entitled to it. Jane, thanks for your time today. That's lovely, Greg. Take care of yourself. Good morning. Do you agree with Jane or disagree with Jane? I mean, she accepts that there are all different types of people, but just simply doesn't want her children to be subjected to that education in fifth and sixth class in the leaving search cycle. 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The rescue team are urging people to carry a means of calling for help when on the water as it can make a life-saving difference, as it did in this case. And finally Donegal Garde are reminding the public to never click on a link on a suspicious text message and to delete it upon receipt. A text purporting to be from a bank warning of unusual activity is doing the rounds. The recipient is told their card has been placed on hold until further action is taken. Garde say if you have fallen victim to such scam, to report it to your bank and then to get in touch with your local station. That's all for now. The next headlines will be at 12 o'clock. Until then, good morning. You see it's an interesting warning and I understand where it's coming from and I would always never click a link in a text. But I got a text from on post today because I thought we delivery coming and I have to click a link to go into if I want to organize delivery or change delivery, right? So they could say, all right, for you to do this, you might have to send us 50 cent or something and then take my bank details, but it's much more than 50 cent. They could probably take the full 250 cent out. So I would love if these big organizations stopped putting links in texts at all. Yeah. So you ignore it from the bank, but you don't ignore it from on post. Yeah, no, the same. Yeah, no, exactly. The same thing happened to me because I had a delivery coming and I got a text and I forgot to open it, but then the package came. So I don't know what it was. It was probably to alter the delivery. But as I say, you know, the companies need to do give us a hand and stop putting any clickable links in text. Find a different way, perhaps. All right. Listen, Don and Marie, thank you very much indeed. As Don and Marie mentioned, she's back with news headlines again at 12 o'clock. Whether it's a five or 10 K half or full marathon, everyone's running journey is different. Find your pace with a summer of running series with Irish life Dublin marathon. Search Irish life summer of running series to sign all a better life with Irish life. Okay, you're very welcome back to the nine till noon show in the Bible. Where does it say homosexuality is a sin? Ask the caller. But any of these documents, I suppose, are open to interpretation. The 12th is not a public holiday in the UK. Greg, this is a day of celebration for the Orange Order. Majority are in the north of Ireland. No, thanks. Don't want to bank holiday on the 12th. Okay, and there's more coming in. We're joined now by Jeremy Godfrey, Executive Chair of Commission Neman. Good morning to you. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you keeping? I'm fine. Thanks. Good morning. Right. Now, you are currently working on your organisation currently working on developing Ireland's first binding online safety code. Now, talk to us a little bit about what's been worked on. So it's time for platforms to take more responsibility for illegal and harmful content on their platforms. And we have the role of regulating the platforms who have their European headquarters in Ireland, which of course is many of the largest platforms, and to face on them binding obligations to do things to, as I say, to reduce harmful and illegal content. And our first online safety code is going to focus on video sharing platforms. And there will be a particular focus on protecting the interests of children and protecting the people with protected characteristics from hate speech, and also commercial communication, so influences on those platforms. Do you have to strike the balance between what then is freedom of expression or freedom of speech and what is hate speech? So, I think hate speech is quite clearly defined in law. So if it's, if there's illegal hate speech, then platforms will have an obligation to make it easy for people to report that. They'll have an obligation to deal with those reports and decide whether or not the report is valid. And if so, to take action like taking down the content. We are, at the moment, we have a call for inputs out. So we're asking people what they think should be in the code. So a question we will be asking would be, should there be specific time limits for dealing with those reports? If so, what should those time limits be? Is the timing of this coincidental with the introduction of the hate speech laws in that, presumably, once this has all been determined, you don't go beyond the scope of the hate speech laws or short of them, do you? So will this, in terms of obviously, the public have an involvement in terms of the timelines and things that you talk of, but really what this will align itself with the new hate speech laws, I would imagine, would it not? So it's, I mean, it's somewhat coincidental in that actually we would have the ability to put binding obligations about hate speech, irrespective of the hate speech laws, but obviously being consistent with not only the hate speech laws in Ireland, but also hate speech laws across the whole of the EU. Because, as I say, the platforms that are based here, they have people using them across the whole of Europe. And our role is to keep the internet, those platforms safe for people in Ireland and people across Europe. Yeah, but people want an understanding as to who makes the decisions. And I know that's not exactly why we invited you on Germany, such because you're looking for people to have their say, but maybe an answer in this question, it might be allow people to have a further input, right? So say, for instance, I'm not asking you to moderate content live here, but under, like say, for instance, someone posts a video of an African person beating up a white person, post that video from whenever it might be, and then you often see, and no offense to anyone, but just to demonstrate my question, they will say, import the third world, become the third world. Like, is that hate speech? Like, will that be taken down? As I say, I'm not asking you to moderate content live here, but it's just to give people an understanding. So is that a view that someone can hold with a freedom of expression? Or is that labelling any person of colour in the same way? And is it's hateful content? Because it's that type of stuff that everyone seems to be arguing about on on these video sharing websites you talk of. Yeah. So thanks for us for telling me I have to moderate the content live on live on your show, particularly as as you know, everything is very context dependent. Yeah, for sure. But content which tends to incite violence or incite hatred is is to be, you know, would fall foul of both the laws on hate speech to be illegal. And it would then as a consequence of that, would place an obligation on the platforms to take down that content. Now, whether any particular video crosses the threshold, sometimes, sometimes, of course, they are, it's very clear. And sometimes there may be a, it may be more arguable. So the platforms will have to make the decision in the first instance, because they're the ones who are doing the moderation, they will also have to have a kind of complaints mechanism, or an appeals mechanism, if people are aggrieved by the decision they've made. So either someone's reported content, and the platformer said, no, that's fine, we'll keep it up. Or, or some, or sometimes the platform says we will take it down. And then the person who put the content up objects to to the platform's decision. So I'll have to have appeal mechanisms. And, and then ultimately, you know, it, you know, our role is more systemic. It is to make sure that they have those mechanisms in place. It's not to get involved in making our own judgments about individual pieces of content. Now, in terms of where this, I mean, some people, some of these platforms do have their bases here in the Republic. And then, you know, sometimes we can make findings against them that cover all of Europe. Right. So where does this all fit into our role sort of in content moderating or penalizing social media platforms? Like, are we talking here about introducing an online safety code that would be exclusive to the Republic of Ireland? Or is this something where sort of also formulating this for Europe as well? Yeah. So the online safety code will apply to the platforms that are based here, but it'll apply to their activities across the whole of Europe. So, so the code will be will be binding on them wherever in Europe they're operating. And very finally, and sorry to labour this point, but I want to I want to sort of get a sense of what people might be thinking out there. Again, I'm kind of just curious as to who defines what is, you know, freedom of expression. I mean, freedom of speech is a bit of a misnomer, but freedom of expression of what I feel versus what might be deemed as hateful. Because we are in a world now whereby there's not an awful lot you can say that an individual or a group might be deemed to be a hateful. So it's really important, I think for people to understand, well, who goes right? Okay, well, that's what the public had to say. But these are our guidelines. This is what we set out. Who is doing that? How big is that individual? Are the independent of governments? Do they have input from the social media websites themselves? So, as you say, freedom of speech is a fundamental right. So is the freedom to be protected. But it's not, you know, it's not an unfettered right. And there are rules about hate speech, which are quite clearly defined in terms of is it going to incite violence? Is it going to incite hatred against a protected group? There are rules in Irish law. There are rules in European law. And there's rules in the laws of other member states, but they're all pretty much all very similar. So the question is not actually what is what are the rules? Because they are all essentially around incitement of hatred or incitement of violence. The rules, the difficulty is how do you apply that in a particular case? And that's really a finding of fact that has to be made. And if that finding of fact, you know, if it can come before the courts as a criminal matter, and if it does, then the courts will make the decision. In the context of should content be taken down from a platform, then as I say, in the first instance is the platform that has to its moderators will make that decision. But there have to be appeal mechanisms. And our role is to make sure that the whole thing is operating effectively. So if platforms are if a platform is systematically getting things wrong, and is permitting a lot of hate speech, then we can take action against it. And of course, platforms won't get every decision right first time all the time, they have to have a way of making decisions, they have to have an appeal mechanism, those are the sorts of obligations will be putting on them. And this can only extend to companies that have their headquarters in Ireland. Is that correct? So our remit is companies whose headquarters in is in Ireland. But there are similar, but it's a European framework. So the companies who have their European headquarters somewhere else will be bound by very similar rules under the law of whichever member state they're established in. Okay, how do people have their say? So we've published a call for inputs, which is available on our website. And so that's the first stage of coming up with the online safety code. And we've asked people, I think, till the middle of August, they can they can give us a submission and say your response to that call for inputs and say, so there's a number of questions in that. And they can say what they think about those questions. And we'll we'll obviously consider all the responses, and then we'll draft the code. Okay. And, and obviously, it is quite possible, dependent on the point of view that you could be you could receive a lot of contributions in an organised fashion. How do you how do you balance that? Or how do you whether it's those that that, you know, on a very, very stringent system, or those that want a more liberal system, you know, you might have groups dependent on their views that might that might contribute en masse. Do you have a way with dealing with that? Or is that something that's par for the course? Well, we don't know what kind of responses we're going to get at this stage. If we have a large number of responses, we'll have to analyse those responses. I think it's it's, as always with these things, it's not a preponderance of how many people express a particular view. It's more, what is the view? What are the reasons for the view? What's evidence are they providing? And those are the things we'll take into account. All right, very interesting. Thanks for your time. I do appreciate it. That's Jeremy Godfrey, Executive Chair of Commission Neman. What do you think? I'll wait 60, 25,000. The county's number one talk show, The Nine Till Noon Show on Highland Radio. The Nine Till Noon Show with Letter Kenny Credit Union. Simplify your debts with a debt consolidation loan from Letter Kenny Credit Union. Call us on 074 910 2126 or apply online via our app or in office today. 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Yeah that's big um sometimes people forget you know sometimes they think that they only need to put on their sun protection in the sun when the sun shines and really it's not the sun you should be protecting your skin from it's light so you should be putting on your sun protection factor every single day because it's damaging no matter what even in the winter and driving in the car still getting through the windscreen still hitting the backs of your hands still hitting the side especially the right hand side always off the face and you notice that when people come in for skin analysis they can see the right hand side as much more damage right hand as well and um yeah every day and it's more so important is that um they purchase a good sunscreen that has a broad spectrum so they need to check that it's covering um UVA rays and UVB rays and just the differentiate between the two so UVB rays is the ones that cause you'll feel the tingle and the the heat and the burn on the skin that's UVB but actually the more damaging one is the UVA and that penetrates way deeper and that with breaks up our collagen our little coils of collagen last and causes the aging yeah okay and it's funny you mentioned it coming through the window because I was did a deep dive in this one a day not so long ago I was very bored as you can imagine um and and my reading of it was is yes there can be some leakage through uh through car windscreens but particularly the the windscreen not as much but certainly the side windows but people who are lucky enough to have patios the the UV travels actually really quite well through regular glass oh yeah because there's a there's a bit of plastic through the windscreen yeah which does block off some of it but regular glass single double glazed and certainly the side windows of the car you can actually be really exposed to the more dangerous the more dangerous UV yeah it's visible you can see it you see it on the right cheek on the side of the face and the arm and the backs and you can see the age spots and the you know clumping together the freckles I know and uh you know I'm I'm sure like golfers or people who are out all day our gardeners will see the backs of their hands as once they're exposed it starts to damage okay and um but people think this is boring what you're saying and you know we're hearing not literally what you're saying you get well hopefully it'll make sense when I say it but you know there's the answer on at the moment about uh the people having a conversation about well sure you can't get sunburnt here or the uh and it points out that uh skin cancer is the most common cancer in Ireland it really really is but then I think the general population then how good we are making that connection between putting on sunblock as our everyday routine and then reapplying it a little later on do you know what I mean I think we know it has been I think sometimes we don't want to hear what you're saying because it's like well we want to go out and get a bit of colour and you know yeah yeah I mean like I get it you know and everyone wants to look bronzed and tanned and um everything they look better they look healthier with that glow and their clothes looks better on them but there's just easier ways it's easier just use just use a bottle and tan it a bottle and protect your skin because it is the most ageing factor there is out there um causing lines and wrinkles and um damaging and there's no reversing much of it it's there you can stop stop it at one stage and try to plump it up a bit but it's done it's done you know uh but you can halt it there's never too late to change so when you're putting on your so I say you're using a serum a moisturizer and then perhaps sunblock what order did you put them on and so the first step is to wash cleanse the face then you're more well if you want to do if you have a serum do a serum and then moisturize and then your um sun protection is the last thing that goes on now there is lots of moisturizers nowadays I think they've improved and they have it but you know you need to be looking at a 30 plus 30 40 50 um anything really below that's not enough reapplying because like people grab a 10 and kind of think well I'm protecting myself but I'll get a bit of color yeah it's still I honestly think you're still going to get a bit of color even through a 30 a 40 and a 50 but you know you know women will get up in the morning and they put on their sun cream and then they're going to put on their makeup and that's really really difficult for them to start up reapplying that and their work or during the day or the right doors or whatever so if you have no makeup on it's much easier it's nice to you could reapply that twice three times a day but or a wide brim hat or something or a wide brim hat and glasses um on holiday yeah carried with you keep applying it and with with the young ones as well I mean whatever about the decisions we make uh you know you can't you can't really ignore science either it is probably good idea to get into that routine of applying it to your young people in your family and just even if it's too late for you to change your ways to just make sure that they're protected yeah because the damage is done you know when the damage is done your teens anyway and it's like yeah you know and then as you get older it's you know that's that's when you see the age spots developing do you know in their 50s 60s really that's not just been done in the last few years that was done as a teenager and that's them clumping together uh so how frequently should apply spf it's a question that's come in well I would say like if you're not wearing makeup carry a little pot of it I would dispense a little pot of it into it and carry it with you in your bag in your pocket and um two or three times say men who don't wear makeup it's easy for them but for women it's still is more difficult if you're wearing makeup but at least do it in the morning before you go out what's the best way to apply retinol a lot of my friends recommend it but I've sensitive skin so I'm slightly nervous trying this so retinol they're very popular retinol is like it's your vitamin a now it's your a it's a ha is alpha hydroxy gases and the bha is the better hydroxy gases they are the two most popular ingredients at the minute and they will treat acne they'll treat aging skin and basically say for someone who is what did you say sensitive dry uh yes sensitive skin then they have to be careful so wherever they're purchased from they want to make sure that they purchase something with a very low percentage of the glycolic or salicylic acid in it there needs to be a low percentage and then it's nighttime only like a retinol should not be put on in the morning should be nighttime only because it works as you sleep it's like um it's like a little whirlwind goes into pores as you sleep and it exfoliates the surface and descombating the skin but for somebody like that I would do maybe only twice a week to start with maybe then after a couple of weeks introduced three times a week and then so on but not every night not that's building and you know what there might be loads of skins out there wouldn't agree with there's different forms of retinol you've got your synthetic form and you also have a natural form the botanical extract so it's trial and error yeah just a phrase sensitive skin and this is not to deny anyone with sensitive skin don't get me wrong but we always we talk about it always with the presumption that it's again it is a it is a thing like their skin is sensitive right but really sensitive skin is a status of skin isn't it really you know what I mean so really you should try and not have sensitive skin as well this is not to this caller as well but it's your skin that has become sensitive but it's a state of skin it's not actually your type of skin per se no I get you yeah and you know Greg it's there's you know people do think that they have sensitive and that's it and and really that you know they just need to treat it with the right products and there's lots of things they can use on a sensitive skin and there's no problem but they do need to avoid the likes of if now when I say sensitive skin you can have a highly sensitive skin where if they touch it if you touch it and it just becomes boom red 100 on touch then that's highly sensitive and you can still get the correct products but they may you have to make sure there's no perfumes and no oils and no yeah so it's about bringing your skin back to a good balance oh yeah so rather than treating everything as de facto sensitive skin well let's talk about why is your skin sensitive okay uh please ask Mary what's best treatment for rosacea uh I use SPF all year round and I look after my skin very well but my cheeks are very red please uh also I'm very sensitive so let's say they're doing everything right uh but still the rosacea is is something that wants to you know rosacea rosacea is probably the most common um skin problem I get in in the clinic and is that a reddening off the face yeah off the face do you know how what is I'll tell you I explained how it starts there's three stages to rosacea and you will get the first stage is like you just might be out and about and you'll get a flush of redness and it'll last a couple of seconds and it's gone but you can feel it and that is not menopause you know that menopause can do that too but I'm talking about 30s 40s any age and then what happens is um untreated you get next thing it'll have it'll stimulate again either try to think of the trigger what did I just do before that flush and the flush might last then for two days three days and the third stage is the flush will last longer might be up to a week two weeks three weeks and they also will develop um little papules and pustules like spots and to be honest it's very similar looking to acne is that acne and roeage rosacea you know and they're two different things yeah two different things so you know it's acne is acne and has the blackheads and all that where's uh rosacea is different but I have heard the reference does that oh yeah acne rosacea yeah yeah it can be referred to as that but it's different treatment for a totally different treatment so what can be done for this person so rosacea as well it is an inflammatory disorder of your circulatory system okay so there is no cure there there is only you can only control it and you can keep it under control and we do it really really well we work with it we do it really well you need to um use as I said earlier you need to use products that have no perfume and no oils in them and um successful treatment is underneath all that redness it depends how long they have it there will be broken capillaries you treat the broken capillaries because they shouldn't be their enemy on the surface because they're retaining all that blood on the surface get rid of them and then you do laser and you bring it right down there's a maintenance from then on in it is unfortunately you know we're talking about staying on the products with that have perfume free oil free and then a laser session maybe every three or four months or every people are lucky they might get six nine months out of it but they'll know themselves can be kept well under control okay is that incredibly expensive for a treatment about one five five right okay yeah right so it's not it's it's less than both that's or something I don't imagine oh yeah not not conflate we can go there too all right but my point is is that you know it's it's in that ballpark that people some people will spend on a reasonably regular basis that's what I'm trying to do as a condition you just have to people make sacrifices to do those things could you ask what to use for milia in an adult please oh yeah okay what is that so what milia is the little white um pimples but not pimples sorry spots you get on the skin they're little raised bumps and the cause of milia is there's there's different causes but the one would be like um it could be something that's too rich too oily too thick that they're putting on their skin and all it is is that the oil in your skin the sebum that we excrete every day naturally out our pores is trapped and something's trapped it in and it's it's can't get out if that milia have you put a pin in it which don't but if you did and expose it to the oxygen it turns black and that's your blackhead so it's a milia that hasn't formed and been oxidized into a blackhead how to treat it um the other thing that can cause um milia as well is too thick a product it could be especially there with that good month we had a good weather I found more and more people were getting milia and that is because when you're in the sun or on a holiday and you come back you'll start to get milia maybe around the IRA up a cheek um down around the chin that is when you're in the sun your skin cells multiply twice as fast just like your nails will grow longer in the sun the skin cells are multiplying much much quicker and not shedding enough quick quicker off the surface and they get blocked plus you're putting on sun cream while you're out there and everything's trapped in treatment you can use a little micro lance and you lance them it we remove them by landscaping them out and they just heal over perfectly or a little diet there putting a needle in them and then they they pop out themselves okay they're easily treated really easy all right this is a a question I'll probably should ask when we're talking about SPF because I have had this debate off air what I mean we are vitamin D deficient in this country okay and SPF is going to block that right so especially for developing children and all so the question is how how do we get our natural vitamin D if we're blocking you know the vitamin D the natural vitamin D source from accessing our skin yeah true I know I I believe I believe in for kids and everybody let everybody get out in the sun for a good 10 15 minutes and then put on your sun cream all right you know and do that I have whatever if it's a good day out daily or but then put on your sun cream and I believe everybody should be on a vitamin D supplement you know even the little drops for kids because we're not getting it we just don't get it in this country even with the best will in the world with no SPF I've spots of rosacea in through my eyelashes how can this happen there and nowhere else you know that's that's called ocular lozacea and it's really it can be painful it can develop right around but in the eyelashes um I don't it's be unusual if if the person didn't have it on the cheeks or face as well but maybe they do I don't know but for the eye ocular one I I would definitely referring her to or him to um the eye specialist martin coin is excellent because there's special in in liver he's based in liver special eye drops and lotions that you'd need to be taking and putting on that to treat it yeah I've psoriasis on my scalp it's causing hair loss any tips tried everything they say yeah psoriasis is a hard one um we've had I've treated psoriasis on the face and it's been very successful but on the scalp and the hair loss for the hair loss something new that's in the market right now is called mesotherapy so you inject into the scalp where the patches of bald patches are or I don't know um after COVID lots of women as well have thinning hair and areas that never had before so I think COVID's brought a lot of conditions to the surface and injecting the scalp with the um it's a high concentration of vitamins vitamins minerals will stimulate the hair follicle that are lying dormant now there's hair follicles that are dead they're you'll not stimulate them but it will increase and it's really successful you need about four treatments every two weeks and that will stimulate but as we're treating psoriasis no I don't I don't know I'd probably be a GP that would need to put yeah okay um I'm 33 and lately I've noticed large hair growth on my chin and my lip the nutrition keeps telling me I need laser but I've got very sensitive skin and I'm afraid to risk it in case it does irreversible damage any advice and anything else I could try first or maybe some reassurance on the laser I don't know um patch test anything you patch to you can't do laser hair removal anyway without a patch test and you need to see the hair first of all you can't do laser on hair that's not dark so it's a waste of money so it needs to be dark brown or black preferably black and you'll get a good result but you then would do a patch test and see how you react to that for the hair growth at that age at 33 it's definitely a sign that there's a hormonal imbalance that's causing it uh or maybe a medication or you know it's worth also check getting your um hormonal imbalance checked with a blood test yeah double check that these aren't the indications of something out nothing bad but just needs to to be looked at yeah there's a cause and effect for most things yeah or yeah can you ask Mary how long do you need to leave between the serums and the cream routine because you know people feel like we've put in the cream on top of the serum as the serum are you just mixing them all up why not just slap it all on at the same time uh eye cleansed tone then uh hyaluronic acid serum under the eyes then anti-aging eye cream then the retinol light cream and the same routine in the morning finishing with day cream uh does everything have to dry before applications good question well putting you know your serums your should this serum should be absorbed immediately they should just dry it's still on your skin you might tell from me i use my serums yeah i know but do i wait till they dry and then bang on the face cream i know you i just just put them on layer but just remember as well you need very little of everything yes you know your skin can only absorb so much so you know that you know they're sitting on the skin they're not on that they're they're gonna you know a good good good skincare uh with molecular size that are so minute they'll penetrate but they shouldn't they shouldn't be sitting on the surface and if they sit on the surface they're just a bit too greasy for your skin type they should be absorbed straight away okay and use very little i use aqueous cream and a 45 cream for flaking skin it's not working i did have radiation treatment about two years ago any advice so that's that's e45 i think it's e45 and aqueous you know e45 and aqueous creams they're they're actually just the base of all ointments um they would act as just an occlusive on the skin so it's like you know like you're putting a layer of Vasling on the skin a layer of e45 or a layer of aqueous they're gonna do nothing for the skin only sit on top and all they're there for is just to um trap the moisture in the skin they're not penetrating they're not treating the skin at all um really did you say was there radiation yeah radiation two years ago yep so there's plenty there is treatments for um we treat cancer patients all the time and that's what they're left with they're left with that red raw irritated skin and there is treatments for that using the right products all right i've time for one more i'm celiac and as a result i have issues with my skin can mary recommend anything to ease the itch what was the condition celiac oh celiac yeah oh for celiacs um do you know i'd recommend a celiac i've come across a few that they see a homeopath and excellent see for the itch yeah the likes of they would recommend the correct homeopathy remedy to reduce that itch but then again like that for the skin for the flakiness and dryness of the skin there is treatment for that and ideally you'd need to see them you know to see yeah of course exactly but in other words there's a there's something possibly can be done come 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them around and they don't squeak okay and the purple too which is the key thing uh right okay that's the seats sorted business information session kieran what's this all about yes greg the donnelly gall local enterprise office will hold this next business information session and grant aid workshop on friday that is july the 14th from 10 a.m to 11 a.m this session gives an overview of the support and services available to small businesses and donnelly gall and to book a place check out leo's social media platforms now i kind of learned that there was an iceland store in letter kenny and then learned that it was going to close all at the same time i'm not yeah i didn't know it was there to be honest with you but obviously it was a uh providing income for people and popular with some but uh bad news for the store in letter kenny yeah the iceland store and that can is closed three weeks after its parent company went into examinership was set up in the courtyard shopping centre and reopened in 2017 creating 30 jobs and as most of the companies are coming from the back of the recent closure of argos at the kenny retail park so you know that's very unfortunate um argos was always a place i enjoyed getting to myself and i suppose you kind of wonder how big an impact they moved online impacted uh on that decision to close the argos store yeah but they're still running in straban um and iceland sorry if you don't know this i don't want to put you on the spot the iceland brand is it across the uk it's closed as well is it or gone into it sorry gone into examinership i'm not sure yeah no i didn't i didn't want to throw that on you yeah that's uh because it's a synonymous name isn't it yeah as was the old thing i was on the courtyard shopping centre and i suppose the frontage was at the back i suppose and i suppose that's one reason why people have made them been uh overly visible all right congratulations to the crew at the silver tassie yeah kieran and rose blenny and their staff at the silver tassie are shelding after winning the team of the year award at the recent ivish hospitality awards the family owned four star hotel has 36 bedrooms and there's a popular wedding and function venue and well done too all concerned yeah when silver when the silver tassie was sponsoring this program there was an option to go out and test the spa get a spa treatment and whatever way happened or at the time or maybe it was on my mindset i didn't get out but now i'm all into this stuff so you know i'm a new i'm a new are you gonna tune well we'll see we shall see um right anyway but have you ever got a spa treatment massage anything like that not a spanner you're really missing out right you're really all kieran you need to embrace uh the the modern world book a week anyway greg may you knew why not pints anyway come here let a credit let a penny credit union is uh got a important visitor yeah history was made following a visit to by the country's two most senior officials in the ivish league of credit unions to the credit union and that was last thursday evening greg ceo david malone and newly elected president martin bush met the board of directors uh committee members staff and volunteers uh at their offices on the high road so all right okay now bank of arland have released their spending analysis which is a really good insight doesn't yeah uh bank of arland debit and credit care spending in june 2023 dropped by six percent when compared to maize spending and that is according to bank of arland spending pulse while outlay fell across both the domestic retail and social sectors teenagers that uh teenagers aged between 13 and 17 led the way in spending stakes recording a 23 rise and outlay compared to the previous month so i will say the closure of the secondary schools greg may have been a a big factor in that social spending in june fell by five percent overall with fast food purchases dipping by five percent pub spending fallen falling by four percent and outlay in restaurants declaring by one percent so a quick analysis there uh a few runs less to the chipper and a few pints less being consumed in the pub but still pretty much going out at the same rate for something to eat in the restaurant okay you had won the where where that money's been spent maybe is it is it holidays are people away or are they they be doing all other things i don't already use tourist attractions possibly or are they just revolute i don't know i don't know it tourist attractions was one of the things i saw a lot of part of the report that may have been impacting on where the money was spent elsewhere yep but as i say i presume that it's structured in a way where the account for people who are bank of arland customers using other cards and stuff they must have a a core group of a thousand or so and i'll say there's that they are going to compare like with like compared to what they use for me right okay uh interesting um social spend down a 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we're still in the company of kirno donnell presenter of island radio's business matters podcast and we've had the business news and it is on to the matter of the podcast so uh who's on the show uh this week here my guest this week greg is oliver mcbride editor of the fishing daily and director at saltwater media after working on a number of different jobs while combating third level studies oliver set up the fishing daily in september 2019 and in january 2020 the news platform went live in 2021 he set up saltwater media with michael mcginney owner of meneth the locally based web design company so saltwater media greg provides a marketing services for businesses and they're sick who are seeking to promote themselves and their culture through the use of irish and other languages so it is a niche market and native of dunnings oliver hopes saltwater media will expand and create up to four jobs and also his plans to increase the growth of the fishing daily during our conversation i asked oliver what the best lesson well what was the best lesson that he'd learned in business since setting up four years ago i've learned a few lessons um for me i think it's trust your instincts about stuff like you know um self-belief is is a very important thing to have like there's such a thing as having an ego and there's such a thing as having self-belief but you don't have to have the ego you just have to have the self-belief that what you're doing is is right you shouldn't do things blindly you know you should really do your research and look at all your options pose every every business is different do you mean like you you learn different things and when you're in different businesses and stuff like that there but i do think what you called if you've been around for a while like me uh i think it comes down to what you called yeah it's just just trust your instincts yeah and indeed it's um not unique advice either it seems to be quite a trend for those in business regardless of what type of business they are in is it mostly online the fishing daily is that a collation online yeah with podcasts and videos and articles um he referred to the the fact himself that he's been around a while he's he's worked on a lot of jobs greg um primerica is a and technical management uh he worked a couple solicitors of us um he worked with river media that he came to his resource center he was a market manager i've done fanny golf club he worked with uh mara media for a while and then four years ago after we did a bit of research he got help from dl dc he decided to serve the fishing daily um he joined forces them with micah micah shortly after that and what the website and the services they provide is the website is in the language that's in the market that they're trying to sell to so it's very specific it's built from the bottom up through the medium of irish google translate doesn't work because it's not accurate so this is foolproof and i suppose they do it they'll do it in other languages as well so it's kind of interesting if you translate something from google into a foreign language or into the irish language and then and then uh translate it back you start yes it really starts so this is getting so it's accurate obviously it's a good boost too for the irish language uh i say they've identified a niche market uh as being officially launched very very soon and they've got help from uterus and hopefully a success for the two men all right the full interview with oliver mc brides available to download now at highland radio dot com will just stream straight off the website it's also there for you on spotify and itunes and it's on the radio of course as well kiri yeah after six o'clock news greg on solidan right okay and uh if anyone wants to get in touch with you in touch with the program best ways email i think yeah just use email please greg business matters at tilingvideo.com all right kieran and how many episodes is that now 153 well done that's some body of work when you think on all right thanks very much kieran good morning great having you on the show as always kieran oh donnell there back with us between 11 30 and 12 next week and just to reiterate the podcast available for you right now on our website highland radio dot com and there's a whole host of other stuff by the way for you to listen back to or to listen at your leisure stuff that was broadcast previously on highland or stuff that's exclusive for the website just go on to the website highland radio dot com and you'll see in the listen back section there's sports there you can listen back to the score you can listen back to the deal debate you can listen back to donna marie daherty's features this show is there there's other podcasts and other on-demand content available for you there it's a library that's growing all the time and you know also um it's very important for us to find out what you think as well so if there's other content or stuff that you think would be of interest to you feel free to email inquiries at highland radio highland radio inquiries at highland radio dot com feel free to email on that address there's no issues there whatsoever if you wish to make some suggestions for online content on our content we're always more than happy to get your feedback a caller says education uh should have nothing to do with your religious beliefs education is learning i watch quiz shows on tv not because i want to appear as a contestant on any show but because i want to expand my knowledge just because you don't believe in a particular subject doesn't mean you should close your mind to learning about it 100 percent jane is right and correct and the first texts are there responding to our chat just with jane with jane just before 11 o'clock who was of the opinion that she has raised her children as christian and they are very far when they're christian beliefs and they love and respect everyone but their view is is um the sin and the sinner i don't want to misphrase it uh but you know exactly what i'm talking about hate hate the sin not the sinner i think was the phrase that was used and um she doesn't want her children being exposed to uh conversations about uh sexuality um and all things lgbtqi plus yes that lady is right i do have a daughter who has told us that she's gay i love her just as i did through her life but this agenda of teaching our children and making christian families conform to this agenda that is being pushed onto children from early primary school is wrong if parents take the time to examine and go through what our children are being taught we would be sickened and horrified and i wonder how's everyone done that too uh because uh and this is i was kind of having this conversation with caroline before we come on air like i think it's really important that we know what's being in taught in schools and how it's being taught that sort of goes for everything because what happens is is we're we're going to do that tomorrow that's good um because what happens is is then you see everything becomes about one book you know when they hold the book up uh and they say this is what's being given to your kids and these are the phrases in it and this is indoctrination and this is uh the part of the agenda i'm not taking a hand in saying that right but is that really what it's all about well let's find out let's find out what's being taught in schools how it's being taught what's being said uh and i think we'll have more knowledge and with that knowledge comes power and then we can say you know what that's a bit too much or actually right i thought it was what this person said on twitter a few years ago the government asked the people by referendum to remove blasphemy from our constitution the obedient public voted to remove it so now god's law is irrelevant while not embracing lgbt is a crime we do this to ourselves a caller says while i didn't fully agree with that last lady greg i do think the pride stuff is getting overbearing gay people are a small percentage of the overall population yet the coverage isn't proportional to this it blocks everything outside it was a it was men's health uh week two uh two weeks ago for example but there was little to no coverage of this anywhere it was all pride pride pride just my two cents greg and thank you for your two cents and listen make no mistakes about it everyone is different and everyone has opinions and i know there are people in the lgbt in the lgbt community that themselves don't necessarily like pride or themselves don't necessarily fully embrace the t in the eye for an example do you know what i mean so everyone has different views not only from outside those communities if i can put it like that but within them too hi greg i totally agree with jane children do not need to be taught in school about gender differences leave children alone and if your child's experiencing gender problems then the parents should be able to guide and explain and teach their children through this so much talk about this and online influence is not helping children be children anymore good show as usual thank you again too and as i say this is not made to say what you've just text in this wrong it's just if me and you were sitting having a cup of tea it's just for the purpose of chat that is presuming that all parents though are really good at doing what i think you probably are really quite good at you know sitting your children down them speaking to you you've been able to give them advice but not all parents can do that and guardians can do that i'm not sure if the majority can or the majority can't i don't know but maybe that's why there needs to be some gaps filled in the school environment but what are they i don't know i agree with jane thank you jane for your christian balance and explanation the big problem is that it's not just a senior cycle where this topic is being pushed they're introducing the lgbt gender lessons to the very young children in a gradual sneaky way parents must pay more attention to the content of these lessons i would definitely agree with that in terms of paying more attention to paying more attention to what's being taught hope the block suppliers and in the show and donagola given the same grilling by our tds in front of the cameras this is mickey stuff with ryan tobrady the country's falling down surely our public reps have more to do that comes in from patrick tough to argue with that patrick uh who is using invoice with no name on it only someone avoiding the truth when one's doing vat returns that's a red flag and how come the first invoice had vatted 23 percent and the other two were nil vat to a uk company because it was a uk company uh this present rt debacle will enable the abolition of the tv license thus paving the way for the government to mandate a license to cover all modern media devices and everyone will have to pay to stay connected to what's instantly available on phones and laptops and that is uh something that is uh up for grabs definitely uh there's another text here thanks very much for that i'm not reading that loud but i appreciate the the sentiment tell the green party to make the 15th of august a public holiday instead another greg did you ask the canceler about his support for the real ira hardly a progressive organization either but no surprise you did not well look at um i i i asked a question about another thing that he's supportive of with a way of uh talking uh took away of of addressing his comments about the orange order but i take your point i don't actually know the ins and outs of uh what you're talking about there to be able to um ask questions i need to brief myself from that i'll try and ask questions about stuff i have a good grasp of but certainly something i'll have a look at what many southerners failed to grasp is that unionism is not the only community in the north patrick costill wants to embrace unionism but when will they embrace republicanism will they be looking to have a national holiday for our hunger strikers if they won't accept that then why should we accept the 12th listen thank you so much to all of you who uh listened to the show and texted and called and for those of that you watch the program we really appreciate it we'll be back with you tomorrow