 This is one of the most forgiving drivers on the planet but what exactly does that mean for the average golfer? Does it mean it's longer? Is it straighter? Is the sweet spot bigger? What does forgiving actually mean because I think we're all getting a little confused. The reference to 10k is the holy grail number in the eternal quest for forgiveness. Sorry can't use the word quest that's a tailor-made phrase now. The MOI in the new Ping G430 Max 10k is off the charts. Well it isn't exactly off the charts because we know it's 10k. So as a golfer all I want to know is is it going to make me a better player when whacking a golf ball off the tee and by better I mean longer and straighter than my playing partner with his ancient Ping G430 Max. So I'll be testing both in today's video to find out what am I paying that extra money for. Well as I see it the tech within these two heads is almost identical except for the carbon fly wrap crown which can be found in the G430 Max 10k and was only previously seen in the G430 LST model from the original release. That crown reduces weight which is relocated for a lower CG. The weight in the rear position was 25 grams in the max and is now 28 grams in the 10k. But here is the first question why is it not a movable weight in the Max 10k? Is that not a possible negative before we start? There is also a change in shape. It is flatter and a larger visible footprint but it still falls into the 460 cc category. Now that price difference is 549 for the new model against 469 for the existing. Is it worth extra and can we confirm if 10k MOI is noticeably better performance? Now just to clarify what MOI means the higher the MOI the greater resistance to twisting or reduced torque but should that really be interpreted as forgiveness. And we should remember the G430 Max is a driver that already produces extremely high MOI. So is the gain that great? I'm going to show you what happened now on the golf course and also what happened in terms of dry ball distance when comparing the two. There's one thing we cannot discuss and that is the design of their head cover. I'm not talking about visually I'm talking about how it fits on this 10k head driver. It's slightly bigger than the original line up but they've clearly got exactly the same head cover and I can't recall how it fitted on originally but that is ill-fitting to say the least and it's a poor effort and I think ping at 550 quid you really do need to up your game in terms of that head cover market. And before we go any further it's worth noting for those of you who haven't watched this channel before M&9 Handicap Golf I hit very much inconsistent off of the tee and I will test out the theory of 10k in terms of forgiveness and what it actually means in reality out here on the golf course. Okay so the first six shots hit out on the golf course was pretty much straight out the car park no warm-up exactly how I'd start my round of golf and did I notice anything hugely different between the two the answer in all honesty would be no it's so hard to gauge what this forgiveness actually means and if you take a closer look to the variables in my swing what you'll see across the six is none of them are fantastic I would guess and there's probably variables in each of them and I think they play a huge part in the end result and I'm not sure how much forgiveness can really eradicate the problems with my swing that said all the balls were relatively straight my swing curvature is left to right didn't do a great deal to straighten that out and they all ended up in a very similar position in terms of downrange. Now before we go any further I'm going to change the head out of this 430 into the 10k model the one noticeable difference don't forget I've already touched on it is there is a movable weight in the 430 max the original and a fixed weight in the 10k and just wonder how many of you think that is a possible negative and I'm a little bit surprised in many ways because from a custom fit perspective it reduces a few of the possibilities and I'm surprised that we're paying more for a driver with less adjustability which isn't quite the norm so I'm a bit surprised the fact is are you today's video is sponsored by our friends at hot golf the online golf retailer for all major brands and if you want new golf gear then please support us by supporting them I mean to be honest with you that is straight out with the old driver as good as I can hit a golf ball and it's very difficult to see how we would get better results than that but we'll move on to shot number two well again absolutely a bullet straight three on the bounce is a bit of a shock for me just as to how good they are as good as I can hit the ball as a first one back into the 10k version and I find it really difficult to separate these two in terms of performance I really really do right one more with the 10k but you know what I think that's me done I don't need to learn any more out here on the golf course and I think in many ways you know I think ping could be a victim of their own success because let's not forget the strongest point in pings lineup is just how forgiving it has always been so to try and emphasize that point I think is not a huge leap forward that's not because the 10k isn't a very good driver it's just that they're already in a very very strong position in that stakes as it stands right that is out there on the golf course finish the next thing you're going to do is see me collect dribble data and also one really interesting reveal about the fact that ping have already achieved near on 10k in that MOI number in a previous model that might surprise you but let's start off with the indoor hitting which was up at hollywell golf club on louis's new simulator software I'm playing and hit a number of balls with both drivers now to be quite honestly we could run this for quite some time but essentially what you will see is the only difference between performance whether I hit a fairway or not is based on my swing and not on the capabilities of each driver so I learned nothing there however we did of course carry and capture dribble data that dribble data is up in front of you now and the one glaring thing to note is that at first glance the g430 max driver the older driver of the two perform better if you look at carry distance however what you also need to note is club head speed and it is very much relative in other words I swing a little bit faster with the 430 max and I did with the 10k model and therefore produced a little bit longer results in terms of that carry distance there is however a few other noticeable things of note the spin number on both was very very good however one is a 10 and a half degree model notched down a degree or two the other is a nine degree head and whilst it was suggested to me the nine degree head on the new max version will launch the ball very very high because of that 28 gram weight and where the CG is placed I actually found that still for me the max model the older version I keep on to refer to launched the ball higher which as you can see produced a steeper descent angle without a huge loss in spin so pick the bones out of both sets of numbers there is a case for both as to why each different thing happened but essentially they both performed extremely well the fact is whether or not it's the 10k or whether or not it is the 430 max these are very very good drivers there is no denying that but my idea setting out today's video was to really decide why am I paying extra money for the new version and how much difference is that and I've got to say on the evidence that I found at least it's not huge and it's not measurable and it's not something that I noticed either in dry ball data nor out on the golf course and everything that separated the two was down to my own personal performance as I've continued to say throughout this video that it's not a discredit to the 10k it's very much the opposite it's a credit to ping on what they do in the forgiveness stakes if you are a driver right that is easy to play does a lot of things in terms of the performance attributes that you would want as an average golfer then you would now no doubt be looking at this 10k model whether you want to pay the extra money as opposed to the max well that's very much up to you this is the latest and greatest arguably what ping will be saying is that that 28 gram weight where it's positioned and other things they've changed in terms of perimeter weighting is going to help produce a balance of high launch low spin and no loss in terms of that forgiveness that torque and twistness in fact an increase compared to the previous models however I say models if we go back to the g4 25 you will see that they already pushed the boundaries of that 10k number so it's surprising to me that nobody has picked up on this as yet or at least not that I'm aware I've heard glowing endorsements on every review just how good the 10k model is yes it is but I draw you back to the fact that I've made throughout this video ping already produced incredibly forgiving drivers my question is just how much of a leap is it for them at least in that forgiveness stakes and what difference will it ultimately mean to you as an average golfer out on the fairway and of course the only person that can really decide that is you so I hope we give you all the information you need the truth about this model and others follow me subscribe hit that like button give me your feedback and what you're going to get is the truth from the average golfer and you're 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