 Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh It's a unique hustle nigga, big shit Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh Name another podcast like this Who gon' burn it to the table, boss top Who your girlfriend favorite, boss top Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle It's your boy, he's CEO And I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Maker, what's going on? Not my day of walk on Man, you tell me, man, it's going down, man Another day, man, and we ain't even been up here, man You know, we been chillin' I gotta put in some overtime, man You're puttin' in overtime and editing Yeah, I know what I do with it I'm doin' what I gotta do, check it, man We got a special guest in here today, man And he don't really need no introduction, man He been workin', man If you just, hey, if you Google him You know what I'm sayin', pull him up, man Whatever you gotta do, man My boy, YSM, flippers in the building What's goin' on, man? Man, what's poppin'? Man, it's good to see you, man All right, shit Good to see you, man Good to be here, good to be here, friend Yeah, yeah, yeah, man And I didn't know, I thought you was gonna cancel on me Like I said, I kinda felt that way with, you know With what just happened with Wadi, man Yeah, but, yeah But we had already scheduled this, you know A lot of people, a lot of time People don't realize how this thing would be goin' And then not only that We had already had one I was supposed to pull up with Wadi Yeah, I know, that's what I was sayin' That was the whole reason Yeah, so, you know We had been rescheduled this couple weeks ago, I think Yeah, we did I ain't wanna do y'all like I did last time Yeah, I kinda felt like, oh, that's how he rolled The nigga roll like that, you know But I heard you was sleep Yeah, I was, I think I was asleep, but Kinda tired night before or somethin' I don't even remember, I don't even remember That was like, I don't even remember That was a month or so ago That was a month ago Yeah, man, and you know And we had talked about you that day It was a gang up here, it was like We can't even get a hold of them Cause Trey was linkin' up with you some kinda way And they wasn't, they would link up with you Yeah, I think I was DMing him back, but Uh, when I don't know, I was probably asleep, too I don't remember I don't even remember what I was doin' Yeah, so, man So tell us how you guys decided How did you get into the music? Like, are you just, how did you Start growing up Tell us a little bit about yourself Where are you from? Where did you grow up? You know what I'm sayin' I always stayed in Dallas my whole life Damn, you know what I'm sayin' About 8th grade, 9th grade That's when I met Woody and Mario I wasn't rapping But by like, I'd probably say 11th grade, or 10th grade It was probably 10th or 11th grade Mario had already been rapping And Woody was rapping, too So they motivated you to start rapping? I mean, I just hung with them And so I ain't really, was I ain't even wanna rap with you, you know What did you wanna do? Uh, I don't know I wasn't really doin' nothin', nothin' I wasn't doin' nothin' good Oh, okay That's being a kid I'm being worse than a kid Yeah, no, when you young, man You experiment, you know what I'm sayin'? You tryin' to figure out what's gonna work I'm tryin' to see everything I'm tryin' to see what's how it's gonna work But now, they got me start rapping Which one, was it Woody that got you started? It was really, uh, Dullo Dullo? Dullo, cause he been rapping since we was like Younger than that, like middle school You know what I'm sayin'? Before I even came over there Wow But What did he say to you to get you to start rapping? I think I used to like, rap at lunch Like, you know what I'm sayin'? We used to, I used to freestyle Tell you what, I used to rap at lunch with him It was easy, that shit was easy Yeah We just went to a studio one time Recorded a song Damn, shit How did it feel when you heard yourself for the first time? Um, I don't even remember that I don't remember, I just know that Shit, people at the school was fuckin' with the song, so Yeah, yeah I guess that motivated me to do some more stuff Mm-hmm, mm-hmm Do you feel like, um, when you rap, do it, do it, do it Does it feel like that's what you wanna do for You know, till you make it, you know, bigger than life? Or this is just something you're just doing I don't know I kinda, I kinda Like doing it, but It's cool I mean, do you get a lot of views on YouTube? You get a lot of impact on Instagram? Those are the things that other, other, I guess Striving artists? Yeah, that's all of the artists is trying to do A lot of them would love to do what you're doing But I had to put in, that wasn't just me not trying though Like, I had to really like, I wanted to rap like, like how, like I don't know, like every day, I just did it every day I just wanted to perfect the craft like And whose studio was you using back when you first started? I know you started at the house somewhere I think my first song was at somebody house, yeah But then after that, I started going to, I started going to Vaughan's favorite fated studio Okay He was where I was making like, we made like, probably like a hundred, two hundred songs Wow Then we started going to This one studio, the music box With Beazie and Wasty Okay They had their own room, so they used to, they used to like I used to, when I wanted to, when I wanted to rap I used to just stay there all night, like spending night there Yeah I used to be there for days Just rapping I learned how to record myself, so I bought all the equipment That's what's up That's more than a hobby, cause when you, you seem like you making it your life I mean, it just, it's like, I don't know It's just something to do You find a love for it I get, like he said, I get views and stuff and just people just Use and impact People just be DM me all the time, like drop, drop, drop, so And now you got a fan base, right? Even with, yeah, but even with my like the trailers and the little, little Just the little snippets I be dropping It just be, it just be on it, so Where do you get your inspiration for your songs? I don't know, probably, probably me and the people I be around Yeah Just, you know, we be just talking about stuff like Stuff we do or where we on or I don't know, I don't really be listening to nobody Don't listen to nobody's music, but you, but of course the camp Yeah That's about it I mean, I don't know, I don't really get no inspiration from nobody Cause I don't, I don't want to rap now that I don't, like nobody, I don't want to sound like nobody So who do you, who would you say that you, I know you don't sound like nobody there But I know that growing up you probably listen to like a bigger artist growing up and got inspired by one of them Let me see Who was it? Probably soldier boy Really? Soldier? Yeah, cause he used to like That boy on the wall up there? He used to like, I don't know, he just switches flow Like I like that nigga hustle boy That nigga hustle He just switches flow and then he just be doing his things Yeah, yeah So is that who you would say that, do you do that a lot? Do what? Switches, switches, switches flow up I mean, yeah, I'll try to Yeah, yeah Well, let me ask you something about the music, what about, and look like you and Barrio, y'all together a lot Yeah, that's like my brother All of us We really, we all be with each other a lot, but Barrio, it just, I don't know, I don't know Y'all be making, y'all, you seem like y'all tip-a-tap on the music Even outside the music, even with just life, just me and Barrio be at it We probably talk to each other every day Okay, and that's building the relationship That's saying we vibing and we'll rock out at that studio So if y'all talk every day, that studio is on your mind Studio, it's like we have our own studio Y'all just livin' that thing No, we don't, it's just like, it's just like you want to pull up, pull up And if we so happen to be there at the same time, then we'll record a song Because he be movin' and I be movin' I don't say we all be doin' our things But if we pop up at the studio at the same time, we'll hit each other like, meet me up there It ain't nothin' to do a song, cause we've been doin' it Like, he used to spend the night with me at the studio when I used to like We've been doin' it so bad, so much, so we know how to like feed off each other Well, tell me a little bit about Swipe Talk What, how did that song come about? What was you guys doing? Just kinda run me through it No, no, we'll probably just, I think we'll probably, I think we recorded it at his house Okay And so, you know what I'm sayin'? He, I go first or he'll go first, whoever went first on that song I think it was me, and he'll record me, I'll record him He'll record me, I'll record him, he's just like that Yeah So, and then what about Kenny B? He's pretty close with the camp too or what? Yeah, can it be, can it be that he, yeah, he, he, he, he, he with us Okay He, he gang, but he like, you know, he from Fort Worth Yeah, of course, he is from Fort Worth, y'all are from Delaware, bro Yeah, so, well, that's what he from That's what he from, you from Dallas Yeah, so, so, Kenny, he, you know, he from Fort Worth So, it came with him, he like, we just been in the studio one day And he just clicked with us That's how that, that's how that happened? Nah, I mean, we been had songs before that one, but That one's just the one, like, that one's just one of the ones we liked so much So, we just, you know, we tried to be there on anything Man But Kenny B with us too, just like everybody else Everybody So, do you, okay, and do you, do, what, tell me about Try? Uh, it's the last video I dropped Yeah I don't know, like, every video, it's probably one of my favorites right now Of course, it's the last one Cause Moe be going, nah, cause my favorite is really, uh, what's my favorite video? I don't know It's probably Law & Order Law & Order? Yeah, I like that concept, but, but Try there was nice too Yeah I got some Moe hard stuff in the drop Oh, yeah? Some videos, yeah Who do you like working with as far as your videographer? Moe always my go-to Oh, yeah? It's like he, he gang, he be there with me too, like out of town You know what I'm saying? He like working with you Yeah, he shoot everywhere with me It's good when you can find somebody who you, when you explain something to They totally get it, they understand exactly what you need and what you want Yeah, we just be chillin' Moe, he gang Yeah, yeah, and that's dope, man, so Go ahead My fault No, no, no But I often to say, uh, with the other camera man though, I like, I like visuals by D You know what I'm saying? I've been messing with Ali's since like when they first start Yeah You know what I'm saying? How important is it to have visuals though? I don't know, to me, I really don't mean like Moe will call me and be like, nah, we gotta shoot You gotta meet me here, here, here, like, that's how Moe be, so That's how I be so active with Moe, cause he'll tell me, yeah, get up, do this, do that And meet me here You know what I'm saying? I think the visuals He's a motivator I think visuals are super important when it comes down to music I mean I don't reason because that's what everybody can see and they gravitate to it to me You know, the lyrics, okay, I don't know because when you're in the car You just putting on some music, you're gonna bang out, right? Yeah But I don't know, I like the visuals, man I like that picture, man, cause every time I see you turning up, it's like yo The visuals, the visuals be cool too Because everybody always have their phones, so they're always looking at videos On YouTube, you know, checking stuff out, they want to see the person That's it, that's totally it, and it's so convenient now, right? Yeah That's why they be on your IG and, you know, Facebook and whatever, cause they want to see you They want to see those skits, they want to see all of that It's, what's going on in that DM? You got a lot of people What's the craziest thing ever come across your DM? Craziest thing? I don't know People say, I'll tell you what's up, sometimes people will be like Sometimes they'll be mad at me for something They just make up something Then they'll be like, well can you send me some money? No People always ask for money Really? People ask for money Cause they know he getting it, they feel like he getting it And then he's showing it I got it, nigga, I got it I'll be showing it I see it on your IG, you be showing it I'll be showing it So do you, what can I say, you know, do you have a favorite rapper outside of Soulja Boy That really like made you feel like, damn, I got to come on with it Like if you listen to a song and be like, damn, man, I got to make mine better than that What pushes you? I probably say people out there be around and push me They push you more than anything Yeah, cause I really don't even be trying to record I pull up to the studio just to shoot dice If there's a lot of people up there, I pull up, shoot dice You know what I'm saying, but I record They'll probably tell me, like, yo, this beat right here, hold on If I like it, I go in there and record Wow That's how we become across some of our songs Like, all of us at the studio with me, Kenny, and Gwadi, and Trill You know what I'm saying, we just all let the studio that day, shootin' dice Yeah, yeah, that poor boy, I seen that one Yeah And like, I was recording in a room back there, they shootin' I ain't, you know what I'm saying I tell somebody else, go hop on it I hopped in the dice game, then he'll come back and tell you You hopped on it, then he hopped back in the dice game They're like, we all at the studio, they go hop on there Yeah, it was having fun Like, we didn't even have to hear what he said Like, nobody had to hear what I said, like, you know what I'm saying They in a whole another room, just come in there Yeah, that's how easy it be Man, you know, I have to talk about the elephant in the room, man Wadi, you just mentioned it, man How do you move past when you lose somebody like that? When I got the call yesterday To be honest, I just said his name, and he still feels unreal Yeah, like he's still here Because last thing when me and him was talking, he was like, I gotta get my music on my YouTube You remember what I'm saying? He gotta be on my platform Yeah, he be telling me that too Yeah, that's important, that was important to him It should be important to you, you know what I mean? To get it where it's you pretty much are the one that, you know what I mean? Controlling it in the narrative Because you got fans, of course, and that's what me and him was talking about Like, when you got these people following you You putting it out on all these other people's platforms They benefiting from it, you know what I mean? Yeah But how, I mean, how does that... I mean, because the way I heard it, I know nothing about it But the guy that was here with him last time They evidently got into a fight or argument or something at the club Were you there that night? No You wasn't out No, I don't even go out like that I don't even go out like that And the thing that... But all of y'all, he was a part of the whole clique too, right? I mean, he wasn't really... You know what I'm saying? He wasn't really like... How does he end up here with him? Because I know what it told me to interview him He was out... I don't even know how to explain it, bro It's just... He doesn't switch out You know what I'm saying? He was cool with us But he wasn't immediate So did he go to school with you guys? Nah, he just... I can't really explain it I can't even answer your question right now I was just trying to understand how he ended up in the store standing in the video Like he's a part of everything But then that happened I can't... You don't even know how I'm thinking about it You're trying to figure out what the hell happened I can't comprehend So I can't tell you And I get it, man And I really don't say that because It just... Because I talked to them yesterday The family, the mother The godmother, per se And my thing is, man Because I just got to meet them And got Blake and all of us so linked in My thing is You know, first thing I tell my wife is Could I have said something else to him? Or, you know, you start trying to figure out What you could have done different With the time that I had with him, you know? I don't know, I talked to them that day You know what I'm saying? We was on live I didn't even know they were going out so You didn't even know? I didn't even know they were going nowhere But... I can't even tell you what happened because I don't know, I wasn't there I was there, it wouldn't have happened It would have been nothing because Whatever they had going would have just been squashed But I don't know what they had going So I can't tell you Yeah, it's sad, man Because at the end of the day Man The guy was a good dude He came here respectfully He blessed our platform We didn't have to come over here and do that But he knew my son Like you talking back and forth with Blake Blake is my son's cousin And People call me after that They're like, man, I ain't know you tapped into the streets Like that, I'm like, what? I'm like tapping to the streets Man, man, man What it be, he be out there They really, they about that life I'm like, dude, these are my people Like I really know that they family You know what I'm saying? So I didn't look at it the same way like that Plus, you know, I come from a lot So you know what I'm saying? But the thing is, man, I really loved Talking with him that day I thank God that I got to be able to speak to him that day Didn't think that would be our last time talking But the thing I hate about situations like this And things like this happen on a regular basis You see it on the news all the time Is the fact that it's simple Things like that That ended up in something so detrimental You know what I mean? Something that could easily be Discussed and squashed and you know Ended in a With the right people around Like you just see With the right people around It could have been a narrative that changed But if the wrong people around They don't know how to either engage Or they intimidate about a situation on a whole So, you know, I just, you know I just know that God is real You know We got to make sure we Protect the people that are still here In a way to where we keep them From endangering themselves Or doing something bad to somebody else Because Especially people like you, you got kids You know what I'm saying? When I was, when my son And I don't even like to tell this But when my son was young I ended up going through some stuff And had to go away for a minute You know what I'm saying? And my daughter was here To have to Deal with something like that You don't think about until you're in a situation Trying to deal with it Because if you didn't die You're basically in that situation And you can't get to them You know what I'm saying? So those are things that you have to think about Before you make crazy decisions But a lot of people do things in the heat of the moment And not think about their children Or their mom or their family Their loved ones, you know what I mean? Fast forward, so Back to the music So do you feel like, what's the next big hit now? Are you going to do something in dedication to Wattie? Uh Me and Wattie got, we got hella songs Y'all still got a lot of music? Yeah, we're gonna put it out Oh no I'ma see I talked to Mr. Lee man, Mr. Lee was on He said it's hard to do that We had a video That hadn't came out yet? I got other music still I just dropped a little tape People kept asking for a lot of music So I just gave them a lot of shit That they kept asking for Did water have kids? He didn't have any kids And I asked that because I asked that every time I was just thinking the same thing before you actually asked Because I'd be thinking about The music or anything that goes out If it accumulates money that it would go towards The children, that's what I was thinking Yeah, but I say man Keep pushing that music You know already what he would want for you, right? Yeah, for sure He'll be like, let's get it, right? And what his mindset was at Like, let's get to it So you gotta keep that whole mindset going What's the next big song? What can I expect? The people wanna know What's the next one you gonna let go? I don't know I got hella stuff in my phones But I probably still got stuff that's on the laptop Still at the studio Studio? I don't know You don't know yet? Are you only doing singles or are you gonna actually do a project Where you're gonna have like an album come out? I don't know, I just dropped the little mix tape About like four or five days ago Got like nine or ten songs I don't even remember Which one you like doing the most? The projects Or just dropping some with a visual? Uh I'd say the single The single fun, ain't it? It's the last work It's the last work How much more work you have to do When you drop a whole album compared to a single? It's like You gotta have a lot of songs In more than one song That's work right there Then Then after that You know what I'm saying Like you'll have to probably like See which one people like and so you can shoot that video Or people probably like multiple ones So you'll probably get multiple videos Or even just Putting it all together Like sometimes somebody Try to put a whole bunch of old songs With songs they probably just need And don't even saying the same or something So most of the time I just Do all fresh songs Or if I do some old songs I do all old songs Because what I see a lot of people do Or what they'll say They'll do some singles, put it out See the feedback on it If people love certain ones They'll put a couple of those on the album Because they know they'll want to buy the album Or get the album because Because their favorites are on there I do that sometimes I just put that on that mixtape That was the first song since everybody liked it But Other than that they was out of new songs Yeah, yeah Do you plan to work anymore Can it be? Can it be always working We got a lot of songs too That's coming We don't need to be talking about when we're going to drop It's just like We'll probably be like He'll just hit me up and say We need to drop this We need to shoot this so we can drop it Yeah How do y'all pick whose song it is? It don't matter It don't matter I didn't think so, I thought about that They don't care I guess we ever go first We ever go first That's a good relationship It's your song man So do you have enough music to do a whole project Like for Woody Like with you and him Like a 9 out of 10 song project Probably some That may be something You know what I mean That would be dope You gotta find some kind of way to put it out To where people can see what he was Where he was at with it But it'd probably be hard for you You know what I'm saying He just got a video We're gonna drop that one for him We're just gonna see what else See what else we got See what else we got for him Any time you around You know you can come over here Talk about it We're gonna be doing pressing it this way Pushing it that way My platform is open for that Be honest with you You show a lot of love to this platform We were new on the block You know what I'm saying He done that just like you here And we love you man Let me ask you the name across your forehead Is that your baby's name That's my mama's name Mama mean a lot right No games about mama Already man Top three artists of all time Top three Number one Any genre I can have to say something boy That nigga love social Have you ever met him? Like you say though He's just smart That nigga smart I like Kodak too Kodak number two T-Herbo I've not heard of him Where he from Chicago I got him You say you love social boy Cause he's an all round artist And he's a hustler He does everything Are you striving to do everything In your craft Or do you just want to just rap I'll probably see what I can do Like Inga songs like me and Kenny did Those new stuff to me And you liked it I mean it was cool So you open to venture but Because even with learning certain things You have to go and research You have to go and figure it out You have to go and ask a lot of questions And then I think on that video I think we don't even have that many views Then we got deleted so we had to repost it But that's one of your favorites Yeah that's one of my favorites So do you If you could go back and talk to your younger self Although he's so young already I'm talking about 15 15? 16? What would you say? What would you say to your younger self? Stay away from rap What? I'm just playing I don't know Cause really I'm good I'm chilling I don't really have no regrets You know what I'm saying? So you would tell him just keep on rolling You for the hit You for to be rapping and everything I don't know I don't know what I tell my younger self For real? He would say juke juke What is that? Juke juke Is that his slogan or is that something you all say? I mean that's something we all say He used to use it more What does it mean? Get to it I figured that That's what He said something on here that was so dope He was like if I ain't living it I ain't for to be at no studio If I ain't doing good I'm not going to be at the studio He's like I'm going to be out there getting to it But then we got different We would probably be like we're not getting to it But We getting to it But we probably just want to be better than what we doing So It's not that we don't Want to be around each other It's probably like I'm doing something right now Yeah One thing man I can tell you why it's him flip man Man You got things that you got to take care of So you're a little bit more responsible Man All I can say is that when you talk to the guys around you I know right now it's a place Where they don't even want to listen to nothing But you got to be the one to keep things going Like damn But it's the truth man I'm like You got to keep things Life is You don't even want a responsibility But it got to be Somebody got to step up What it was a leader man Tell me how you feel You feel like y'all just leave me out of this Is that how you feel I just Not talk about it And I get it Because it's so early But I just For me That's the only thing I say is I wish I could have said something about what did I not say But I know God is the one that got the ultimate plan So I don't I know he had, like me and you talking here now I know already I pray for you guys here I know already I say Man give me something to say to this young brother Because I've been through so much And I made it through You know what I'm saying And for me to be here I'm kind of like I'm in a winning position because I made it this far You know what I'm saying From where I am you got to come What you've lived already And it's the old man talk And live longer than what you've lived already You see what I'm saying So I feel like I won because I've already lived this long You know what I mean But at the same time I know already there's something special in you And it's going to be You got way more chance than me now Because I'm telling what you can do Accomplish in the time you got Does that make sense? I'm going to be watching you man I'm going to be watching to see How you take it to the next level Because at the end of the day You the future bro Like I said man Where do you see yourself in the next two years In music I don't know Probably taking it more serious It's like I don't know I be focused on a lot of other stuff Because do you have a goal? I mean In music I just I learn to just chill I learn to just let things be when I'm doing this music stuff Just do what I do Let's go with the flow And I get results from them Since I've been doing this Don't stress over it I know what you got to do So if a younger person Then I got other responsibilities outside of rap With the kids and stuff Just everything Just a lot of stuff just me handling I take care of a lot of people And you so young Just me taking care of everybody Does it feel like a weight on your shoulder To take care of a lot of people? I mean not really That's good It's only people that you know So That's good Because Being a man that It shows that you take on that response But you take it on proudly Are you the only child? No I'm the second oldest I got a big sister You're the first boy So it falls on your shoulder With a lot of stuff Just do what I do That's good One thing I can say Because With what happened The one thing I can say is The friction The fight and I talk Y'all boys Boys gonna be boys They gonna argue Get into it whatever man Like I said if I can't say nothing else I can say You gotta be a leader And you like whatever but I'm telling you Because at the end of the day A lot of people count on you You know what I'm saying? You just said that He's like I'm the one Say man we love you bro We love you and we definitely appreciate you For coming on our show How can people get a hold to you man? People like who? Know if they want to do some music Or feature or something like that Like that man Instagram Yeah they can just hit me up on Instagram What's your handle on Instagram? Y's and Flips If you want to do some music You can just hit me up on Instagram It takes you my budget I don't wanna hear your budget It takes you my budget And then you gonna get at them But if A young artist come to you Or somebody who wants to Because I know that a lot of people are probably in your DM You be like bro how did you get here You know I wanna be You know like you don't want to connect And stuff like that How would you advise him like how many times a week Does he need to be in studio How many songs he needs to be writing a day If he I never wrote so if he You punch him But if you're writing then that's cool You just gotta write a lot You know what I'm saying You can think of it Just think faster But I don't know But if you just start You need to be recording at least At least two Three songs a day So you need to be in studio every day If you want to make a name For yourself or if you want people to listen to you You need to perfect the craft Not even nobody need to hear our your songs You know what I'm saying It's just you can find out how to use You can find out how to say different stuff Find out how to put it in a different way A different meaning Just perfect what you got to say Wow And what's the one thing that someone has Told you Over the past that has stuck with you Over the years you know concerning Music that you're like you know what That's a gem like I'm gonna take that and really use that I'm gonna I'm gonna really tell me to probably be more Consistent Be consistent When I really When I want to take it serious I'll be I'll probably be in studio more I'll record myself I got it at home too so And I hear you say a lot that you record yourself Because I know a lot of people that go To studio and get like an engineer or somebody To record them I like my engineer recording me too though His name 24 I like him He make beats It's way easier Mhmm Man we thank you for coming on the show We love you brother I appreciate you Say man It's going down man It's a unique hustle And it's been another great segment Of boss talk 101