 I'm starting up the old Geek Nights stream. Well, since I've used my opening bit for the main bit, I need a new opening bit. Do I have an opening bit? I don't want to use the sad news from work. That's just a bummer on Geek Nights. Is everyone like putting flowers on his desk and shit? No, it was a herb, but we're gonna do a thing for the family, I think. You got enough money, you should do something. Yeah, well we're doing something. Something's gonna happen. This person was very much loved by everybody. What happened other than, I don't want to talk about another hobo on the train, but I had a hobo on the counter. No hobo. No hobo? No biking. I haven't biked. I'm gonna bike soon, though. Yeah? It's getting warm enough, actually. I might bike to work next week. I bought those warm biking clothes. I couldn't use them. I ate at a restaurant. I haven't done anything. Nothing special has happened. Nothing weird has happened. I don't have any opening bit. What's going on? Unless I want to talk about the hobo. I don't really want to talk about the hobo. Oh, someone said I was quiet. We haven't started the train, but am I still quiet? You messed up all your stuff. All right, the mixer on OBS at least looks like it's fine, so... It's supposed to start. Mmm... It's Thursday, February 14th, 2019. I'm rim. I'm Scott. And this is Geek Nights Tonight. We're talking about doing laundry because that's exciting. Sounds fine. Oh yeah, there's people watching because they really want to learn about laundry. What's an opening bit? I know. I got an opening bit. So I was setting up to do Geek Nights a little while ago, and Creative Cloud was open, and I saw it had a notification. So I figured, oh, there's probably some update to Photoshop or something like that. No, it gives you notifications for other shit now that they're not updates to software. Yeah, I've made some configuration changes to where I think I only get the ones I care about, but I click on it just to see. And sure enough, there was a new version of media encoder and Premiere, so I clicked on that, and I noticed something I hadn't noticed. I noticed that the last round of updates left the old versions in place, so I had Photoshop, and then I had the newer Photoshop that all the people who are bad at Photoshop are complaining about because they fixed one of the most glaring UX problems in Photoshop, where you don't have to hold control if you want to keep the aspect ratio and to transform by default. People are really mad about that change. I don't understand why. So I noticed that for whatever reason I... People get mad about any change, right? We've talked about that a thousand times, right? Yep. Sickosign. I noticed that Creative Cloud had done a thing where it kept the old stupid version of Photoshop and Audition and all these things, and I just never noticed. So I found the option that says, fucking just keep me up to date, never keep old versions, full steam ahead, damn the torpedoes. Yeah, I've had that version for a while. So I enabled it, and I uninstalled manually every old... The old Audition, the old everything. So because I just hit the Windows key and typed like, A, U, and I just hit enter, I've been using Audition 2018 for a while now, like even though 2019 has been out for a while. So this is the first Geeknots in Recording 2019, and it highlights the audio that's being recorded currently in like, super red, and it took me a second to realize that that was because I have a new version, not because something's going wrong. Yeah, you know, in terms of things, people getting mad about changes. It's like, remember, people were so mad about the Twitter redesign. People are so mad about Microsoft Office Rivens. People were mad about Windows 7 came out. Just a couple of weeks ago, people were mad about the new Slack logo, and I'm sure someone out there just now said, it's still ugly, but guess what? Everyone stopped giving a shit and Slack still works. You're still using Slack, so what the fuck does it matter? I think the new Slack logo is bad because it is primarily lazy, too derivative of every other goddamn logo these days, and somehow incorporated, like what? Both a swastika and a dick? Yeah, but you know what? It doesn't matter. Of course it doesn't matter. It's not a problem. It's like, in five years, if they try to change it again, you'd be like, oh, I'll change it back to the dick swastika. Well, like we always say, look at Long Island City. There's this giant, like, ugly neon Pepsi ad from a long time ago on the waterfront. It's like I say, same thing with the Sicko sign in Boston. Same thing with the Tour DeFell. Right, all right. So don't get mad just because something changed. Yup, I'm not mad. Change yourself. I was startled by the fact that there's all this red in the interface that I'd never seen before, but it's fine. I just had to... Yeah, red is not a good color to use for something scary, but I guess red doesn't mean recording, so that makes sense. Yup, especially because that red matches the red of the, I have activated this channel to record from some, you know, all that biz. Anyway, actually, before we start the show, I'm curious, all of you out there, if I was to do a Patreon, like, exclusive thing, would you like, like a real talk tutorial on how to use audition? I mean, anything you say, would you like? Someone's going to say yes, and no one who's going to say no is even going to say anything. I only want to do it if a lot of people say yes. If one person says yes, you can go Google for someone else who did a less good tutorial. I'm pretty sure if you have Adobe Audition, Adobe has like, isn't Adobe Tutorials like app that is on the iPad? So I've looked at those, it's totally an aside, but I have watched the Adobe videos and they're pretty good, and I've watched a lot of tutorial videos for this kind of software. What I've noticed is that almost no one talks, like they talk about how to use audition, but they don't tell you how audio works, and nothing seems to tell you that. I can't find tutorials that actually explain to people sufficiently like how to use an auto ducker or like what a compressor really does and how to tune it or any of that stuff for podcasts. I think you generally go to school for those things. Yeah, but it's not that hard to learn. I learned it by reading every single computer thing, even Stack Overflow. Nothing teaches you how a computer works. They're all teaching you, except for unless you take like the MIT OpenCourseWare. I guess what I noticed is that the only good resources I found for that stuff are the way I learned, which is literally all these textbooks I bought used from the 90s, from like schools on how to do audio. People who have educations and know things don't often end up actually teaching the fundamentals of those things for free. It's just a thing. But as a result, online you find specific tutorials that do specific things. You can find plenty of like baking videos that are like, hey, here's how to bake this specific thing, but you can't find something that is like, here is the fundamental theory of baking. I can't find that on you. If you know where that is on the internet, how I can just, from knowing about the chemistry of flour, invent a recipe for a thing without having to like take a recipe from a cookbook, right? I've never found any, I figured the only way to do that is to go to culinary school, right? Yeah, I guess. There's no other way to learn that. But I guess it's that I specifically see a lot of tutorials that explain how to do a specific thing in Photoshop or a specific thing in audition. But they kind of, I don't want to say they teach it wrong, but they teach it in a way to where it explains why so many YouTube videos and so many podcasts sound like such absolute dog shit. So yeah, there's actually some really good news. This got leaked a while ago, like not a while like a week ago. Well, a week ago they were like, they threatened. And then today they're just like, all right, we're going through with our threat. And we're like, well, good. So if you didn't know, because it's important that I live in LIC, like where Amazon was going to build their stupid headquarters is like right there. We can see it from the window where if they built it, we would be able to see it like from here. Yeah. Block our view of fireworks. That's why it's a good, like I literally walk past that thing on a regular basis, like the place where it is. Right. So basically Amazon was, they created this big hullabaloo like, we're going to build a building every city and state. Please fight to see who will pay us the most to build our building there as opposed to somewhere else. Yep. So you have cities being like, we will kill every adult male child in our city for you. Right. Like cities were willing to be like, you don't ever pay taxes. We'll give you land. Please just come. Right. Because Amazon won't pay the taxes, but the theory is that all the employees of Amazon, Amazon sells to pay the payroll tax, stuff like that. Well, the New York incentive was they would actually give Amazon like a 40 K credit against the payroll. Basically, not even the way the way it would work theoretically. Right. Is that you don't care about paying them to come because in the long term, right? All these cities and states are afraid of becoming Detroit. Right. Which is it's like, oh no, we lost all our industry. And now our town is a crap hole. You want businesses where you live. Because then it makes you where you live a flourishing place with lots of revenues. Well, you got two things on one end. You've got cities buying stuff. You've got living there. You've got like low, like mid mid tier cities that don't want to become low tier cities. You've also got low tier cities and non cities that are hoping this will put them on the map. Right. So obviously Amazon was only planning was all it was obviously was only ever going to go to New York, you know, San Francisco or North Haverbrook. Right. Places where there are people want to, you know, where tech people want to live and work and DC to be close to the government and the Washington Post that visa zones. So yeah. They already weren't going to go anywhere else. Right. Oh, they have Nashville office too. Right. Yeah. The locations were basically already decided. Like, you know, Nebraska, you had no chance. That doesn't matter what you were going to give them. You could have been like free rent for a million years, free land. They would have not gone to Nebraska in New York now. Like I can't hire good engineer. Like I cannot hire people. There aren't enough people in New York City doing these kinds of jobs to hire. Right. So the, what happened in New York is that the governor and the mayor usually don't get along despite being in the same political party. Yep. Actually came together and bribed, not bribed illegally, but created a plan to, you know, an offer like Amazon. Here's all the great things we will give you if you come to New York and they did that with zero input from anyone else. It was completely the executive branch of government all in its own in secret. Developing this offer polling for the idea of, Hey, would you like Amazon to come to New York was pretty high. Supposedly 70% of people were in favor. Supposedly. Well, here's the thing. I am in favor of Amazon coming to New York. Anyone who wants to come to New York has enough money to do so. You're allowed to buy land. But that's the thing. You're allowed to build buildings. I can't stop you. Here's the thing. The only reason Google has offices, they're buying it from a wealthy market, whether you like it or not. The only reason a company like Amazon wants to come to a place like New York is because this is where all the people who can do that work live. Well, you come to New York because it's New York. That's the only incentive you should need to come here. Yep. So apparently that was the incentive they needed to come here. I was 100% fine with Amazon coming like any company could. I mean, there are a lot of negative consequences of them coming, like all kinds of gentrification, fucking up the neighborhood, et cetera, et cetera, which is going to happen anyway. But in principle, I can't stop you from coming. You're allowed to buy land. You're allowed to buy land. But here's the thing. New York City, or really no city, should give the richest company in the world tax incentives to move to their city. It's like the examples I used for analogies, right? The first analogy I came up with was like, all right, you're throwing a party. Yep. It's no invitation. Anyone can come to my party and someone is like, well, your party looks pretty good. I'd come in there if you gave me 10 bucks and I'd be like, you can come in the party, but like not giving you 10 bucks, dude. But the dude's like, oh, but if I come to your party, like, cool people will come because they heard I was here. Well, then you can fuck off and not giving you 10 dollars. Yeah. If you don't want to come to my party, don't come. And in this case, instead of saying, all right, don't pay me 10 bucks, but I'll come in your party and they just took their ball and went home. Yep. It's funny. So what I read is that basically it's not, oh, they're moving HQ to somewhere else. As far as I can tell, they're just not fucking doing it at all now. They're going to hire the same people they were going to hire anyway, probably in New York, just in different buildings. They even admitted in their thing, like, yeah, we'll continue to expand our existing New York office. Yep. Okay. Because here's the deal. Amazon needs New York. There's probably no other city in America where they could hire that number of skilled workers. Silicon Valley, Seattle. That's pretty much the area. There are a handful of places in the entire country where you could hire a large number of people with that kind of skill set. And New York doesn't need Amazon. Amazon needs New York. Like someone pointed out that they were worried about Amazon over like just existing in Long Island City, our neighborhood over developing it. The place that Amazon is going to go already overdeveloped is literally that gentrification. There is no stopping that. I found a funny map that showed something interesting. There is no stopping that train that the place Amazon was going to build is literally the only undeveloped place left in the entire developed. It's, you know where they have the LIC fleet next to the Plaxall and the art thing. Well, it's underdeveloped. Everything there is going to go away. Plus it's not the Plaxall itself. It's the thing across that little canal. Right. Yeah. Right over there. That building is pretty much empty. It has a bunch of small like life industry. There was like an Instagram-ish candy time. It was one of those events where it's like come here, eat free, eat food and take Instagram photos. Oh, actually that gives me, I went to one of those in that building. You know what else was there? The other day, I don't think you weren't with us. Me and Emily were walking with the girls and we're going to go get some food, like walk over to like Vernon Jackson area. And we're walking by that spot. And you know, there's a fence with like that. If Amazon was there, good luck getting a seat at Camp. Yeah. Oh, God, I gotta go there again. So that one of the lots that's part of all this, there was a hole cut in the fence and there was a bunch of lights in there and a sign that basically said like the secret park. So we go in. A bunch of hipsters had set up a bar with free drinks and a bunch of Christmas lights and a bunch of art installations and we're illegally running a like fancy park party in the vacant lot. Yep. That's what's there right now. Anyway, so the argument, you know, a lot of people on the internet are actually fighting back. It isn't like, you know, an onslaught of hurray. The internet is like half hurray and half boo because all the boo I see are people who don't live in New York and have no idea. I saw a lot of New York people who were boo, but they were all, you know, they're all Staten Island. I don't know. Some of them were Staten Island because they were saying come to Staten Island. Well, anyway, anyone who says, oh no, New York won't get those jobs. That number of jobs is a drop in the bucket in New York City. The point is the argument that they were making was like, look, you know, you give them three billion, but it's only X dollars over whatever. But if they come, we're going to get, you know, X dollars. And it's like, I say one, we're going to get the X dollars anyway. So my land is going to turn into something equivalent to HQ. So my argument, my argument against that is like, all right, so I'm going to go into the Apple store and I'm going to say, yo, Apple, give me that brand new top of the line iPhone for one dollar. Now hear me out. I know, right? That's a big discount you're giving me. But if you don't, you could get one dollar from me or you can get zero dollars. So I'll go to Android. Yep. And, you know, you're missing out on all the money I'm going to spend on apps still. It's not like I can get apps or free. So to take your analogy further, right? So it's like to take your analogy further. If you go to the Apple store and try that, what does the Apple store say? They say, fuck off an iPhone's $1,000. Eat a dick. So if you come to New York and you're like, oh, I'll give you a whole bunch of money. You're going to get so much taxes if I move in here. Just let me have all this stuff tax free. It's like, fuck off. If Long Island City is the Apple store and you pull that shit and we kick you out. Long Island City, the way it's being developed already, there are like a thousand people in line behind you hundreds of dollars for that iPhone. Yeah, without this $1,000 an iPhone. Yeah, I don't use iPhone. It's like, we don't need $200 phone. That's just as good. It's like, it's like, bro, this is going to be other people going in that spot. If it's not you, that's that lot. Something's going there. That spot is literally the only it's like a tiny percentage of the developable land in Long Island City. It's the only one that isn't yet developed. Everything else is already like planned for giant skyscrapers and giant buildings. Amazon would have been a drop in the bucket and would have ruined the subway. Yeah, I am 100% completely great that this happened and it's mostly thanks to our state senator. Is he your state senator also? Yeah, I thought he's my I forget we're right on the edge. I forget I haven't voted in a while. But yeah, so my state center is this guy, Gianaris exactly where the line is. I got to look at the I don't freaking know, but basically he is like always try. He's always in like the New York news. He's like this in the New York state Senate. He is like the second person, right? Because Andrea Stewart Cousins is like number one. He's number two. Oh, yeah, we're there. Look, it's the line actually goes all the way down to the Pulaski. Anyway, I voted for this guy like twice already, right? And look at it. It goes down the way down and basically before this whole Amazon thing and gerrymandering before nonsense. Before this whole Amazon thing, his number one issue was cash bail reform. He was like, let's get rid of cash bail completely. That was his number one thing, which is a good thing among his many things. Pretty much any time he ever said anything, it was always good and he's always like, it feels like he's someone who's trying to become governor or something big. He has, it feels like he's an aspirational politician because he's always on like the local TV stations like New York one and Channel 12 and like local radio always talking about everything. But anytime I ever see him, he's always saying the right thing. I hope he doesn't have like some secret me to stuff like every other white dude, you know New York does not have a good track record of seemingly awesome white dudes getting to a higher level of government and then immediately passed few attorneys general. Yeah, we've had a rough run of attorneys general. So far he has been a plus dude. In fact, if you listen to old Geeknites, we talk a lot about New York State attorneys general. We used to talk a lot about that. That's a real important job. It is a real important job. Oh, don't forget there's a special election at the end of the month for what the city advocate. No one's going to vote for that. That's a really important position. It's not that important, but it's pretty important. I'm still going to vote for it. Well, more importantly, it's kind of nonpartisan. There's like 20 people running. It's really go look, whether you live in New York or not, go search and look at the ballot for the special election because there are parties in this election. So everyone running writes in their own party. So people have written hilarious things as their party. Like the first person on the ballot, their party is fixed the MTA. That is the least funny of them. I feel like I want to vote for that one. I got to do my research and decided to vote. I'm basically the hardest left or the hardest for social is I looked at everyone and basically most of the choices are pretty left and every single person on the left has like something wrong with them. It's always that way. They all have a different thing that's wrong. It's like we need to fix climate change. Yeah. And vaccines are bad. It's pretty much everything and they're all crooks, slightly slow. See, I guess you're going to prioritize which thing you think is more important. I think that's enough. Just go straight into the main bit. That was 20 minutes of Amazon. I was just surprised that it actually worked. I thought that they would just put it there and say, fuck you. I guess we can go a little bit further. Actually, there's something to say about that. So I think the thing that's most important about this is that the government like the effectively the government of the state and the city wanted this. The business interests wanted it. The richest and most branch wanted it. The legislative, the new legislative brand did not. The richest, the richest and most powerful man and company in the world wanted it and pretended to want it. Yep. And basically the people who live here and one state senator were like, you know what now? And that was enough. A lot of state senators. Yeah. But this state senator was on the committee that as far as I can tell I know he was because of the Amazon thing, right? Andrea just appointed him to get a seat on the committee that would give him veto power. Yes. He had veto power. He's not on the committee yet. Cuomo would have had to put him on the committee and there would have been some crazy fighting if he would have been like, no, I don't want to sign you off on the right. Yep. Anyway. So direct action by the people affected worked against one of the most powerful things on earth. That's actually kind of amazing. And it goes to show when we talked to Geek Nuts a while ago, like the most recent election, New York state's government fixed a bunch of issues and New York state. That's the same state Senate. Yes. The same state Senate that might give us single pair health care in the state and fix a bunch of issues. This is like the first thing they've accomplished since the election that's big. So it's big news. The moral is if you're mad about something like also we avoided setting a precedent, right? It's like, all right if we pay them and then they come it says this precedent like, all right, now every company in the world can create this sort of fight and competition between all the different, you know, local governments to see where they go to sort of run down their tax bill. And it's like, no, you can't do that. If you try to do that, you're just going to say, no, fuck off. I want to go further. I want to say if a company makes too much money they're going to pay an extra tax to have the privilege of even opening an office here. I think you should have to pay extra money. Had the privilege of even doing business here. Yeah. And if you pass the cost of any company above a certain size, you got to pay and try to pass the cost off on the consumers. We don't know that you can't do that if you if you're charging people in New York more money than you're charging people in Indiana then we'll find you the difference. Like here here's a very specific example of that. So the traditional wisdom among libertarians who don't know what they're talking about is that so all libertarians, all libertarians is that small businesses don't start in New York and there's not a good startup culture here because state taxes and city taxes are so high so they incorporate in other places. But the reality is a shit ton of those companies incorporate here and they sadly pay those taxes because the benefits of being in New York far outweigh that cost as a company. I pay my huge ass rent and it gets people say oh your huge ass rent gets you this tiny apartment. No it gets me central goddamn park. And it's like yeah but my huge ass rent I can just walk over and see every single movie ever even really stupid where ones that get a limited run. I can just go see free opera there's just free opera here. I can go to the Madison Square Garden and it's a subway ride home and I'm like yeah or driving. I can I can walk over there and laugh at the spot that was going to be Amazon. I can see legendary historic works of art for free just up there they are. I can watch that's all included in my rent and tax. I can watch the Rangers lose and then it's only like a 10 minute subway ride home instead of an hour drive. And I can get any cuisine of food immediately after the game even though it's super late at night. Those are all the things you're getting for that money and you're basically you could pay the same money and if you got all those things yeah guess what your apartment in Podunk would just be equally small because you spent your money on that other stuff. Now look at that from a business perspective you need someone who knows I don't know IBM WebSphere MQ horse like animal husbandry and try to think of another third thing and audio engineering. You'll probably get 10 resumes inside of an hour if you're in New York and hiring for that. Yeah but if you're in Nebraska you're going to get one guy. You'll get a guy who knows about corn. You'll get a guy who knows about the horse guy. The horse guy probably. Good luck with the WebSphere guy. Also if anyone knows of IBM WebSphere MQ Edmund in New York I'm actually looking for one. You actually use that. Yeah I got this reason. I thought you knew WebSphere. Do not let anyone know that I know about WebSphere. I thought you knew it though. You worked at IBM. As far as people in my company know I don't know anything about WebSphere. I want to keep it that way. I should let them know. Do not tell anyone that I know about WebSphere. Everyone knows about WebSphere. You worked at IBM. You had to install WebSphere. Don't ever use WebSphere. No don't. All right. Use WebQ. Yeah. Just use like Kafka. Anyway. But anyway things of the day. So if you're a long time peak nice listener one thing you might know is that I'm a like super roller coaster nerd. Like I'm that guy where you're like oh that's a really tall roller coaster and I'm like yeah that's a B&M you can tell because of the sound it makes and how it's got that little bit at the beginning and see how the tracks are shaped differently. Like it's a problem. So this video is really good. You don't need to be a weird roller coaster nerd to understand it. But it basically talks about how B&M roller coasters one company that makes a certain kind of roller coaster they have one to find one of their defining characteristics is that they're really loud. They make this like it's hard to describe but they make this really smooth resonant whooshing sound when they come over that first hill. Like it's a very distinctive and loud sound. Wouldn't you want it to be quiet though? Why would you want a loud roller coaster? Well because it's loud in a fun way. Like when you're riding in a like you're driving a sports car that is a really fun loud sound. Like it's kind of like that. Can you just use speakers and make a fake sound? Why? It's not like a Harley where they make it shitty on purpose so it makes the sound. It's more like the engineering of the roller coaster had this side effect where it sounds a particular way. That's fine in a normal amusement park. But if you have an amusement park that has a bunch of houses around it you can't have this loud ass roller coaster at the edge of the park. So this video explains how this problem is solved and it literally involved the tracks with sand. Hey we're running out of sand. Don't use sand on that. Yep well they're using sand for this. And you know what's even worse? They got to use the good sand. No. But put the sand back on the beach. So what it talks about. The cool thing is for this one roller coaster they filled the whole fucking thing with sand. But because of this. Like the metal tubes. Let me find the diagram. So they didn't fill the metal tubes because they would have to cut every tube open so they filled the box that holds the tubes up. That's a lot of sand. But then because of this all the future versions of this they designed if they built a roller coaster that uses this particular type of like setup and they knew it had to be quiet they filled the tubes with sand from the beginning using way less sand. And this talks about how like here's an example of a job that's hard to hire for. The Canada Wonderland needed to hire an acoustical engineer to tell them how to make a roller coaster quieter. Imagine having that job. You grease it up. Just cover the whole thing in grease. Have you got any grease? Imagine if like you know the roller coaster had like the top quality instead of like wheels just like the top quality ball bearings as wheels like sealed in on the track and the track was super lubricated. Like I like so grease that I could like push the coaster along because it was so You wouldn't be surprised how easy it is to move a coaster car. I'm just saying like you know. Yeah. Even if you just take like a penny and grease it up and put it on a flat piece of plastic and grease it up and slide it around it's like whee! Right? So just imagine a roller coaster like that. But anyway this video is like the right level of explaining this without going too deep into the roller coaster Grognard stuff. It's a good video. That was so RIM that I had to claim it as thing of the day so that RIM would not perhaps stumble upon it on his own and use it as thing of the day before me because it is a A plus tier thing of the day. That has happened before. Scott will be like hey check out this thing of the day and I'll be like I saw that we could go on FARC. I claim it. It's mine. Here's proof I saw it before you. Anyway so it's also I'm rewatching the adventure time for the meeting. I'm like in season five somewhere. Ooh that's when it starts the plotty stuff actually starts in season one. It does. But there's a few people keep having this feeling that like adventure time is like is not plotty from the beginning. No. It's pretty much all the plot stuff is like in like super early. It's like right after the Guck Riders. When you watch it for the second time it feels like that they had the entire show planned from the start even though they probably did. Yep. Even at that moment where Marceline's dad is like you are the most evil thing I've ever encountered. Exactly. Anyway. So here is the famous Bacon Pancakes. Bacon Pancakes. Bacon Bacon Pancakes. Famous Bacon Pancakes song which is amazing. And like a zillion different languages. So it's great because A. you get to hear this in zillion different languages and they're all using the same tune but B. you get to hear the Jake voice actor from every different country. Yep. Because the Jake voice actor is a very important voice actor for this show. Oh yeah. This video is real good. This is this is my jam. The problem is is like it's that same guy was it Joe DiMaggio not Joe DiMaggio. Joe DiMaggio. It's John DiMaggio I think. Yeah. And it's like now it's whenever I see Bender. I hear Jake. I hear Jake. Because I watched more Adventure Time more recently than Future Out. So it used to be that Jake was Bender when I first started watching Adventure Time. But now Bender is Jake. What's weird. It's like 90% the same voice. What's weird. Even though he is a talented voice actor who can do other voices he uses that same almost exact same voice for those two characters. Yep. It's not exactly the same. It is slightly different but it's very similar. Yeah. You're running. There's a few characters between like Archer Steven Universe Adventure Time. There's a few voice actors that you just can't not hear them. Well there's a there was a Benjamin. You hear him in Archer then you hear there was an adventure episode or rewatched recently where there was a character that was obviously John Hodgman who was just doing his own voice and not acting. And there's also what's the woman who is Mabel in Gravity Falls. Oh yeah. What's her name. She's I she's I knew her name and then I forgot it. Well also I'm pretty sure the Fluttershy voice actress did the ponies in the new DuckTales maybe. But anyway Mabel I forget the woman's name but like she did. I was watching an adventure time and randomly I hear her voice. I'm like a single episode character. Oh I know what you're talking about. And I'm like oh that's that's who that is and she always does the same exact voice. I don't think she doesn't voice act to do different voices. Yes. Act acts with her own voice. Funny enough total random side I've been rewatching Star Trek Voyager and there's who cares. It's a good Star Trek. So the thing about Star Trek is they like most episodes live like one guest star just like they do a role. Oh right because it's like our actual TV. Yeah. So there's one episode where there's this other hologram of a doctor who's kind of weird and erotic and they do this whole thing. And I remember thinking that kind of looks like it's like a big dick. All right. That's funny whatever probably it was it was it was literally a young Andy Dick. It just that was a long time ago that show was on TV. It literally was just a young Andy Dick . In the meta moment the Geek Nights Book Club book which we'll read at some point is two thousand one. So I've been getting bored on the train with the various games I have because most of the good games I have on my phone like need some kind of Internet to be made good games for mobile that don't need Internet right now. Such as Neurosia Mahex and Race for the Galaxy which are both great still if you haven't played those. Yeah. But at this point the point is I've played them both so much I need a new one. I can play an entire race for the Galaxy between Hunter's Point and Vernon Jackson. Right. It's like between so it's like I need a new mobile app of that caliber for gaming that I can play on the toilet or train and since I couldn't find one I was like all right I'm supposed to use to read a book. I'm supposed to use the Kindle app on the train not the game apps. I forgot I've had that plan and I forgot that plan. Should I actually start reading 2001. I remember that plan and on the one subway ride from home to here just now I read like three chapters. All right. I'll start reading it to them tomorrow morning. It's all about the monkeys. Yeah. Yeah. So two thousand one is space. Also the monolith in the book is not black it's like a translucent crystal thing. Yeah. That makes sense. Anyway what else is meta. So what else? What is so PAX East is coming the hell up. We will be there doing at least one panel. It's a brand new one again. We're on a roll sometimes like even though we have a new panel they'll be like do the one you already did twice because people really like it but we've been on a roll of PAX has given us our brand new panel. So we've got Friday, March 29th 3 30 p.m. in the Cuttlefish theater we are doing the real harm of games. It's going to be a real talk panel. So usually what happens is I come up with something weird happened. Usually I come up with a thesis and then I explore a research and get a whole bunch of supporting stuff just like when I was writing papers in school. Yup. Right. So I had a thesis mostly I wanted to complain about gambling. Yup. Children gambling and I was like I can't just do a panel on children gambling. I have to do it or make it a broader thing. Yeah I have so many panels that are only like 20 minutes worth of material. So I started researching other harms of games besides children gambling and you know what a lot of the things are not harm. There's not a lot of harms of games. Exactly. So I have to slightly change the thesis to be like look games are instead of I think the moral is going to be along the lines of games have some harms but they're not the ones everyone thinks they are. And here's the one thing that might actually actually be a harm of games. Let's not make this mistake. Let's keep games from being harmful. Yes. Instead of I was the my original plan was going to be this is you know violence isn't a harm of games. Sex isn't a harm of games but this is this isn't this isn't this isn't so is children. But it turns out there's probably only one. Now my thesis is look at right. They said violence was a harm. They were wrong. They said this is a harm. They were wrong. D&D may be a Satanist but there's nothing wrong with that. This also this. Nope. Not harmful. This not harmful. This not harmful. Games are super good and not harmful except children gambling. So potentially the exploitative nature of the industry that makes games. Yes. This will be a good panel. So stay tuned. You notice the other thing that's weird we're on a roll of doing panels that required a bunch of research. I think we might have. I did some research to where I went one level deeper than Wikipedia. Oh or like a number of minutes that had two digits in it. Scott for a rare game mechanics I was actually reading essays. Oh no. I read an article on psychology today which is actually a legit website. I found an essay like a legit fucking essay talking about Rondles. It's actually really good. I feel like I could turn that into a panel on its own. I don't think your Rondle panel is going to get accepted. Pax Unplugged might accept a panel that's literally just an hour of Rondles. Maybe we should. Rondles and orthogonal adjacency and hexagonal grids. Anyway. Anyway we will be doing at least that panel and otherwise just four days of Pax go to Pax East. It's real fun. Beyond that this is actually the end of our long road of Pax's and we actually have a break from Pax's before Pax West coming up in September. So spend your warm summer months if you're in the Northern Hemisphere enjoying bicycles or playing video games because you're out of school or whatever. Or skiing because skiing is great in the summer. Well it's not summer yet. I'm talking about between Pax East and West is summer. Between Pax East and West there is still a little bit of skiing. Anyway. Early April skiing. Spring skiing is fun. So today's episode is about Laundry I had an opening bit about Laundry that I decided to turn into the main bit so that way I'm going to give you the opening bit right now. So I was doing my laundry yesterday night. Yesterday. Yeah. Yes. Two days. Now you do Laundry like I do in it like downstairs in your apartment building. Yeah. I was doing it two days ago and you know I was just reading the Laundry instructions on various articles of clothing. Oh yeah. And I was reading the tag. I realized you know I just I was reading on things I didn't know how to wash right to like whether to be delicate or can I dry this no dryer. I try to make a decision. I've done that. I have some weird articles of clothing that actually had surprising instructions. I did not I had I not read that label I would have ruined them. So I just I looked at the tag on some jeans which I'd never looked at the tag on. So I'm going to guess because jeans usually say modern jeans wash inside out machine wash cold dog line dry do not tumble. Yeah. It was that first part the inside out inside out Scott never in my house inside out is like the secrets to happiness. I didn't know this I've got 36 years of life doing Laundry for half those years at least more than half right and never have I washed a pants inside out on purpose logically I figured this out as a kid I've always washed them inside out and here's why reason number even before labels would say it reason number one the stinky bits are on the inside not the outside. I don't stink well sometimes you might stink if you don't wash your jeans my clothes get dirtier on the outside where dirty things in the world touch my clothes but there is sweat like filth of New York yeah filth of New York but here's the thing dirt from the street so one hobo pee sweat will come in from the inside not the outside so if you want to inside out you're going to watch this sweat out other pieces of clothing and buttons and shit and the sides of your dryer and the agitator are going to scuff up your pants over time I don't care about that if they're inside out they'll never have that problem but that's the reason you wash them inside out no the reason I wash them inside out when I used to wash jeans not inside out until this week I'm curious why you think this now well you might not know this because you've never washed them out you'll I guess you always knew to be inside I've never washed my jeans outside in my entire life when you wash jeans not inside out what happens they actually come out of the dryer right kind of stiff well you never put your jeans in the dryer no you shouldn't why not where's the mouth faster they're fine I never I never put my jeans in the well so we'll talk about dryer in a second but first let me so I was this have my jeans look like jeans but they're actually just spandex so I can't put them in the dryer anyway so they come out all stiff and the pockets on the inside of the jeans still wet no they're not they're not wet now they'll be well just they're all humble dry low they'll be well no they're all bunched up and like when you put them on it for the first time they're all like and you have to right I've never experienced that because you never watched it inside out but now as soon I'm like oh it says inside out so I put them all inside out just to see if there's a difference and when I took them out of the dryer they were all smooth and the pockets were straight looking like I had just bought these jeans at the store five minutes ago and I was like whoa I guess I've never putting jeans not inside out ever again so here's an important response to that if we're talking about laundry because it's laundry we're just going to stream of consciousness this so well it's not about the dryer oh yeah so well we'll get to the dryer but when it comes to jeans there are three there are three effective kinds of jeans in the modern world when when we're like when I was in middle school there was as far as I knew there's only one kind of jeans heavy as denim jeans that you can put in the dryer that are invincible and last forever that's yeah so nowadays I have a couple pairs of jeans that are like that like old super heavy denim they're the same jeans I've had since middle school okay they're they're the exact same jeans unchanged most of my jeans now are fashion jeans that are not that durable and they look like jeans and they're fashionable and they're tight and they're comfortable but if I like crawl around in my knees working on stuff it'll just ruin them where old jeans are invincible to that and these jeans do not work well in dryers so they're all like line dry and I don't buy fancy fashion jeans I just buy normal jeans these are denim interwoven with spandex yeah I have some of those but they're just fine in the dryer I didn't these do you put in the dryer they'll ruin them they haven't been ruined yet I've been doing it for a long how long have you had them years how often do you wear them you know and when it's cold okay anyway so should we talk about the dryer yeah so the thing I learned actually from Luke Gray and a burning wheel so I just want to point out me and Emily this for years you always ignored us and then randomly Luke Rainn says no one ever told me that you came back to Austin said hey guess what I learned I have no memory yes god anyway no memory whatsoever I'm just pointing this out so Luke Rainn is wearing a shirt from like it was like an old concert t-shirt but it looked like he had bought it the day before even though the concert was many years earlier and I was like how's your shirt you know you had your printed nerdy t-shirt look like it's fucking brand new even though it's clearly not brand new and I've seen you wear it before and he's like just don't put it in the dryer right so any t-shirt like a nerdy t-shirt that has stuff printed on it if you want to keep it in pristine condition like a concert t-shirt or a PAX t-shirt or a t-shirt you bought from fangamer.com or the Yeti or anything well is it screen printed in the old way like the thick way yeah but I mean pretty much any shirt with anything printed on it period your favorite webcomic you bought a t-shirt from Topedica whatever it is on the process because there are some modern methods of printing that don't suffer from the point is all those t-shirts right if you want to keep them in A plus condition and not have the print get all cracked or break apart or fade away or generally get ruined wash them cold I was already doing that yeah don't put them in the dryer at all the dryer will even if it won't melt the the printing like immediately like you put in the dryer once you come out it's like oh it's fun but it'll crease it a few times and weaken it right but you like if you put in the dryer just like one time you won't notice any problems at all look perfect two times you won't notice but over time so gradually that it escapes your notice it will start to fall apart and not be in good condition anymore and you won't realize it was because of the dryer because it's not like you put it in the dryer and take it out and suddenly it's messed up Scott I'm gonna blow your mind there's a third thing you need to do hang that shit to dry on like a some sort of drying you know if you have the drying rack hang it straight up a rack or if you had the string out behind your house close line so there's a third piece that I feel like you should have been able to infer when you put it in the washer especially if you have a top loader that has an agitator put it in inside out it's inside out so it is really mad it does well it does if it's thick screen printing hmm if it's like if it's like the more dye style as opposed to the thick paint style that's not a concern but if it's the thick style like the mosey shirt if you don't wash it inside out it'll cut that's what causes that cracking well I haven't had a problem since I learned to go without the dryer on those so let's talk about the dryer because one thing I've a lot of countries people seem to not use dryers and well usually hot places and dry places you don't need dryers yeah but I spent my whole life having to wash her in a dryer and basically my use of the dryer is towels sheets you put them in the dryer on high yeah gotta make sure that shower curtains you put them in the dryer to kill all the mildew hmm because you get fabric ones if you're good don't get those like nasty plastic ones with a weird smell and clothes you don't care about like shitty socks old like proper denim jeans that are invincible anything I wear to sleep underwear like climbing shirts that I'm gonna wear out work clothes anything like that the things I don't put in the dryer like a collared shirt that can go in the dryer yep or shirts that are old enough to where I don't care or like a plain old pant like a tacky pant so I did the thing a long time ago like about a year ago where I I declared bankruptcy on my socks and I decided that I will only have like I'll get one type of sock that I like and get a ton of pair of that exact sock and no other socks all the weird socks go put socks in the dryer I put my regular as black socks in the dryer I do not put my smart wool socks in the dryer no that's I've put smart wool socks in the dryer it'll ruin them they're way fast they're fine they'll wear out they've lasted years yeah years mine will last the rest of my life okay is my plan also minor people socks not smart wool brand but it's basically the same yeah well so the thing is I I have to kind of this extra usage in that I have a lot of smart wool socks I wear every day like at work because they're really comfy but I also have a bunch of like fancy sport socks to use for like running long distances and things that like special ski socks those all get hung up to dry because they're really expensive hmm but I don't want to buy ski socks more than a few times in my life yeah when it comes to like something that is a delicate item some of them I look at the label and I look at like my circumstance like am I in a hurry right now how much space do I have my drying rack right now and it's like sometimes I'll put some things tumble dry low if it says they can tumble dry low yep right like a label says you can tumble dry it like if I got a hoodie right if I'm washing the hoodie I'm usually gonna want to hang up the hoodie I don't want to put that in the dryer yep but hoodies do take a long time to dry yep and it says you can tumble dry low so it's like I'll hang it up if I can got tumble dried inside out zip it up inside out I'm not I'm not kidding it doesn't matter it matters in the dryer the point is tumble dry low is the option for it's like the border line between I could dry it but I don't want to put it this way here's what I don't put in the dryer fancy expensive weird socks that have like wool and stuff in them nerd shirts that I actually want to keep nerd shirts I don't give a shit about they just go in the dryer that's right and all my like technical fabric like sports nonsense like hang that if I got all my heat techs yeah my heat tech my like compression shirts the thing is most of those things are so like hydro philic phobic that like they're not even that wet when they come out of the wash well like my microfiber towels they dry within 30 seconds of me being done with them putting them in the air it's like they're all weird fabrics that don't like absorb water like cotton does and they don't come out of the washer like a sponge that's soaking full of water like a towel does so I can just hang those up and they'll be dry in like an hour now I would I would dry all my cotton stuff but actually as time goes on cotton kind of sucks for most uses so I've gotten rid of almost all my cotton like I don't really wear a lot of cotton anymore t-shirts again that's it t-shirts but even then most of my t-shirts are a cotton like rayon blend or a cotton nylon like they're always a blend and I prefer to wear a technical fabric so I can get away with it so here's the thing I was thinking about in terms of anecdotes one thing that bothered me a lot at RIT and it still bothers me because I encounter it kind of often is I encounter a lot of people who don't understand how to do laundry and I observe people when I'm doing laundry doing laundry really badly and clearly ruining their clothes and not understanding well I think it might not necessarily not understanding but it could just be not caring could be not caring especially at college a lot of people are just like they just fucking throw everything in one washing machine yep it's like it saves them money it works at least their clothes don't smell but like I knew people at RIT freshman year who were afraid to do laundry because they didn't know how and they took all their laundry home every well that's bad upbringing that's not what I had it's nothing laundry specific because I remember a society problem that is not his own topic even in high school like my family just did laundering a big unit so I never really did my own laundry in high school even I mean laundry just got done I didn't think I didn't do laundry that often when I was a kid and my you know family did my you know my mother did the laundry yeah everybody but here's the thing but the thing is when I was moving away I'm like oh I guess I have to do my own laundry now hey mom show me how to do laundry oh wow I didn't when I went to cut when I went to RIT you know the first day I got there I said all right you showed me how to do laundry I remember what you said I did it once but I'm like let's go to the laundry room just to look at it and you tell me which buttons to push and it is like oh yeah use that one and that one I'm like okay so I went a little different at RIT the first time I did laundry when like that basically the first week we were there after anime club at our wag I went down into the tunnels I went and I just looked at the tag and all my clothes and I started them based on what the tag said and then I did the tag said yeah that was it it was fine I mean in our god damn building the building is we tried but in our god damn building the building we live in now on two separate occasions and possibly the same person started a fire in the dryer alright that's a problem that is weirdly common because people don't know the dumbest thing if we're gonna dumb things I've seen other people do dumbest thing I've seen someone do in a laundry room is they were drying their clothes and they were putting in you know they have those dryer sheets I don't use those but I mean they have a valid use sometimes yeah generally I would avoid those things I don't use them I used them at the beginning because I thought like it was a necessity but I've stopped years and years ago I stopped but it's like when I did use them I put one sheet in the dryer and that was all I did right and I guess it's supposed to reduce static or something yeah theoretically maybe it works maybe it doesn't have a static problem so I guess I don't need them right yeah I saw like carrying rhyme sticks around everywhere right I saw somebody doing laundry they opened up the dryer and they were putting in like tons and tons of dryer sheets and one what it was like they put in like maybe 20 sheets for like one dry and I'm like what the fuck are you doing I watched someone in colony at our it I remember this moment Chris with with crystal alacrity so I'm like doing my laundry and I hated doing laundry like I tried to minimize the number of times I had to walk in that fucking laundromat well the point that I would wait because of having to use pay laundry I tend to build up a big old pile and do it whereas if I had my own machine like in my apartment or house I just do one load I would be doing it like you know as soon as I had enough to fill the washing machine I would do it so I was I was over there like doing an infinite amount of laundry because I'd waited until I literally had nothing left to wear exactly I was wearing the loincloth boxers on that day yeah under some jeans that were dirty that I wanted to wash but I didn't have anything else to wear to go to the laundromat yeah they weren't getting washed yep and while I was there I saw someone basically take a like two cup like kitchen measuring cup pour completely fill it with detergent pour it into the top of the washer and I was I was thinking I should stop them they were already too far into the process I just decided to ignore that there's a bubble flood so yeah I came back to get my clothes out of the dryer and I see that person is now standing there in a panic there are suds covering the floor of the entire laundromat and that person is standing there like trying to figure out how to get their clothes and sneak away before they get in trouble so I don't I don't entirely blame that moron for that mistake I also blame the laundry detergent industry you buy laundry detergent I buy the yellow one the armen hammer one with no smells on it that's what I've used my whole life and a few times when I've used other things I think I got a rash so I always use that same one but basically it comes the cup is a lid to the bottle the jug that is also a measuring cup and inside that cup there's like if you just look at it there's like a ring like a darker ring where the screw part is and you sort of feel like your OCD wants to fill up to that line and it sort of feels like the right amount for that cup but actually if you look in the cup there's like these very hard to see measurements and they're labeled A, 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 I forget I use one if I like completely jam-packed the whole washing machine full of towels and it's like full and I use A pretty much for everything else because we use concentrated stuff we put like a teaspoon in for a one load there's a big sign in the laundry room that's like use a quarter cup oh my god I'm using less than that laundry detergent like take some of it it's just like soap it's like whatever and like mix it with water it's bananas it is like crazy part of this is that top loaders need more detergent and are way less good at washing clothes top loaders are the worst possible I've only actually ever used side loaders top loaders are mostly only common in the American Midwest and they're bullshit so in my house growing up the dryer was a side loader but the washer was a top loader top loaders are just ass but it's like ever since I left home so side loaders use less energy clean your clothes better damage your clothes less and require less detergent to clean the clothes so a lot of people are used to when they lived in their house with their parents the old top loader that actually needed a lot of detergent and kind of sucked at washing your clothes modern washers need like a tenth that amount of detergent but anyway it's like yeah you don't need that much and we were talking about detergent before the show we use super concentrated stuff I put like a teaspoon in yeah rim is using not only the super concentrated stuff which is fine using like a bunch of different things I just use one thing one detergent to clean absolutely every clothing we have two kinds of wash it well we have normal clothes to wash and we have weird sports clothes that get stinky and need to be washed differently sports clothes are hard to wash for reasons I don't want to get into I have weird sport clothes for biking and I wash it with the same shit in the dryer but I just wash it with the same stuff and it's just fine this is like the compression shirt that I wear running where I make one of these stinky and dirty I had almost every day because I run almost every day I have like a base layer shirt for biking when it's cold and I always I just wash that with regular detergent just fine yeah what's it made out of what's the fabric it's some kind of weird fancy much fabric I was anyway I don't look I don't pay that much attention I just said shit I have to bike when it's cold and I really don't want to let me buy every possible thing that will keep me warm these are I have gym clothes that every time I use them I drench them in sweat so they need to be washed and technical fabrics are hard to wash so we use a different detergent and some borax for that because borax just makes laundry awesome it just makes borax is good for play though that's about borax is great just dump some borax in with your detergent and it'll wash your clothes way better borax also costs basically nothing it's like free like on Amazon it's like when you're going to buy baking soda and it's like oh how much is this baking soda it's like 30 cents okay I bought a package of borax that will last us for years possibly and it costs nothing it's like no matter how poor you are you in fact if you're poor certain things you can afford if you're legit poor like really need to save money use borax instead of detergent it'll wash your clothes pretty good like it's it works and it costs nothing and not like expensive as tide like a lot other laundry detergents like are so expensive that like I was reading stories about like people using laundry detergent as like currency it's like buy drugs and other black market stuff I believe it baby formula baby formula the same thing where it's like they would rob a drug store steal detergent or formula because that was valuable stuff right and then buy drugs just instead of like selling the formula and then getting money and then buying drugs they would just give the formula to the drug dealer and it's like laundry detergent was also a very expensive item so the fires so one day the dryer one day we're just like someone had a flammable clothing and put it in there and on high so I'm not sure because there are there are three with there's three main ways dryers will start a fire the main way not cleaning the lint trap yes is in a house someone in my apartment building who does not clean the lint trap because every time I go to the dryer I have to clean it up before I dry I was down there drying and like my neighbor was also down there washing up after me and then I go and I go to the dryer and because they were doing they were putting their wash in I just took the wash out so I was going in the dryer and before I go in the dryer I take the lint trap out and I go to clean it and she's like I guess you're not the first someone who doesn't clean the fucking lint trap and they were checking to see if it was me and it wasn't me I was about to say I would have checked and it wasn't them either because they were accusing me or suspecting I might be the one and I wasn't that narrows it down it does it's not someone of the other 12 apartments in the building good fucking god you how many house fires that kill people are caused by lint traps not being cleaned out every time people don't know the lint trap exists right there's a lint thing in your dryer every single dryer in the world has this every single kind before and well hopefully if you don't if you're the only one using it you don't have to do before only after right but before and after a public dryer you take it you go to the trash and you put all the lint in the trash because lint is and then you put it back lint from modern your air conditioner has a filter like pretty similar to clean that out like once or twice a year yep so also if you have a you know if you have a stove there's a little grease trap in the fume hood change that periodically at the top yeah also your drip your dishwasher some dishwashers ending most dishwasher like a filter have like a thing at the bottom that you got to clean out go to youtube to read about that yep watch about that but a huge number of fatal fires in the U.S. are caused by people who literally don't know the lint trap exists and eventually start a crazy if you follow New York fire department on Twitter they're always tweeting good fire safety tips like know where the stairs are check the batteries in your smoke detector lint is clean out your fucking lint trap it's crazy flammable if you smell gas fucking run so a corollary that the other thing that lint will cause a fire in is if you have a house the lit you probably have a tube the exhaust tube exhaust tube lint gets into that tube as well and that tube will slowly every now and then you got to take that tube down and clean it out someday that tube is just going to explode in a fireball so lint is super flammable if you want to start a fire like you're going camping bring some lint with you yeah and then you can start your fire way easy with some way better than twigs I had a I had an emergency fire starter kit I put in a couple of ziploc bags it was a bunch of lint a bunch of basically like wire foil and a 9 volt battery those three together you can start a fire in any weather yeah lint is like whoof so the second thing that starts fires is the other most common thing people are just dumb and they don't they don't connect the action they took like I am putting this thing in a box that's going to get hot for an hour with maybe this thing if it gets hot will be dangerous so they'll put like fake leather clothes that have like rubber on it or flammable shit a lot of times that stuff will just melt and get ruined but sometimes so often fire or it'll melt and ruin the dryer and the clothes another thing so I worked in a dry cleaner for like many years during high school right and basically we didn't do any of the cleaning in the place I was working so I didn't get cancer from dry cleaning chemicals but people would give me clothes and have to sort out their clothes and tag them and stuff so that we'd give the right person their clothes back because everything goes in one giant washing thing right so one thing I had to do was check everyone's fucking pockets on everything to make sure they didn't leave anything in there right and I found a lot of pens that would have exploded with ink a lot of wallets full of money and a lot of other weird stuff that people left in their pocket before they did laundry that would have not been good if it got into the washer and especially the dryer or the dry cleaning machine so now whenever I do laundry basically as I'm sorting my laundry like into the different loads I'm gonna do I always check the pockets on fucking everything yep every now and then I miss something and then the laundry comes out and it's like oh there was a business card in those pockets I've never missed anything because I worked in a dry cleaner but I see it happen to other people I'll go when I open the dryer I'll see like a receipt that's all wadded up and was clearly washed and dry so yeah basically I'll see coins in there we're sitting in the apartment and Emily and I we both kind of smell smoke so I'm like so we walk around the apartment I don't leave on the fire alarm but I leave if I sell smoke so it's definitely not coming from anything in the apartment that's good so I go in the hallway and it gets stronger okay so I go to the stairwell and I open it and it's like the stairwell is full of smoke so I'm like well we're either gonna stay in our building I'm gonna go barricade myself in my apartment because it's a fireproof building like I'm safe in the apartment you can take the different the other stairwell or I'm just gonna leave on the other side of the building other stairwell also filled with smoke both stairwells? so I hold my breath and I walk down the stairwell just seeing because the alarm hasn't gone off anywhere and I get to the ground floor and I come out and I see a girl who looks like she's in her early 20s and the doorman and the girl is crying and saying just let me go in I didn't do anything wrong and the doorman just like nope you're staying right here and basically what happened was she put something in a dryer she shouldn't have because she didn't know how to do laundry and she turned the dryer on high and it fucking caught on fire I hope she's got rent as insurance yep because she was responsible for like many thousands of dollars of damage to the laundry room yeah of course you are she really wanted to go and get something out of the dryer so she wouldn't get in trouble and it was clearly not her fault so the other thing this happened again just cleaning clothes is suddenly so dangerous a few months later back in the old days you're taking clothes get them wet in the river rub them on a board so a few months later this happened again back starting fires and I saw that what I'm pretty sure is that same woman like in the room when they were like trying to sort out what started the small fire it wasn't as big a fire pretty sure it was the same person who caused the problem she made the same mistake twice so after that the laundry room put up all these signs that were basically like oh my god don't fucking fuck up your laundry jesus christ here's how to use a dryer oh my god so the third thing that will cause a fire in your dryer is something gasoline throw a battery in there if your clothes are dirty with say flammable oils because you are doing bike maintenance do not put them in the dryer unless they've been thoroughly washed yeah well why would you put something in the dryer before you put it in the wash cause it's wet cause they got rained on and they're dumb I don't know I guess if you were working on a car you got oily and then it rained and you're like oh my clothes are wet and you just put it in the dryer immediately instead of going in the wash first but yeah the washing detergents are really good at getting rid of oil like actually whenever I get all greasy from like what I always use is Dawn dish soap then it's like whoosh it's like oh man so laundry detergent is similarly strong it's just even more concentrated than dish detergent so I don't use that but I could but there is a third thing that will cause fires in dryers that people don't know about I think I talked about it a while ago when I told the story of the fire cause I was mad about it it's about dryer fires and not about laundry well the more if you have old jeans I didn't mean to talk about the different modes on the washing machine oh yeah we can finish on that we can end on that anyway if you got jeans that have a button fly don't wash your jeans on high and then let it sit for a while because those buttons will be hot enough if the dryer isn't spinning to potentially ignite some other piece of clothing that's touching them that is a way that you can start a fire yeah I don't wash things with metal on high you can avoid all of these problems by never putting anything but towels in on high pretty much I do towels on high everything else medium but also delicate things tumble dry low yep if you're gonna put a nurtured in lowest possible so those are the dryer modes pretty much high medium low no other dryer mode matters you got a fancy dryer with other modes they basically don't matter you only need high medium unless you get the drying rack dryer that doesn't tumble you literally I want one of these you hang your clothes on hangers in this thing you close the doors and it just circulates air over them without tumbling to dry them without heat I just use the dry rack at that point that's a fancy dryer you only have if you have a fancy house I guess so but anyway so the washing machine modes right well depends on what kind of washing machine yeah there are a lot of washing machines in a lot of different modes but the main mode that people I think don't use correct because people I think people know it's like yeah if it's like if it's like white and you don't care about the colors getting torn out of the clothes and you don't care about the clothes like shrinking or something because they're a sweater yep you can go hot towels hot will clean your clothes better white undershirt sometimes right white undershirt something like that you can go hot or warm if you want right if it's something that you don't want messed up like say your nerdy t-shirts that you're not going to put in the dryer just go what normal wash but cold yep well there's the thing normal washers like cheap ones or like side loader industrial ones like in our building there's only three modes hot medium cold right what that actually means is six modes well yeah so what the minimum what it actually means hot means wash hot rinse cold medium warm means wash warm rinse cold cold means wash cold rinse cold because it fills with water drains filled with water again fancy dryers lets you set the wash and the dry independently so there's also something you got to check is in the back of a washing machine is not complicated it's two hoses a hot water hose and a cold water hose yep a lot of washing machines are hooked up wrong because people are dumb and don't know the washing machine doesn't know the temperature of the water it's it just says well you told me to use hot water I use hose A and if you tell me to use cold water I use hose B I was trying to come up with a way to make a joke there no it's the hose A joke yeah I was trying to make the hose A joke but yeah so a lot of times people put the wrong hose on the wrong thing and you tell your wash it do cold does hot tell do hot does cold now this is extra bad so you say you tell your washer to do a hot wash it's going to wash the clothes cold so you get none of the benefits of hot wash it's going to hot rinse it which just ruins them for nothing but anyway so other modes in the washer you got to do this delicate mode which those only so those modes that for some sweater action those tend to only exist in either shitty top loaders and what that means the ones that the ones that and my building have they have hot which I don't use yep they have though they have they have white white is hot they have whites colors brights bright is cold right colors warm see I don't like I do not like I don't like washers that say like what the mode is for I like they say what they do there's a guide on the wall that tells you what the modes do yeah but I need to know what it does I want to know like it's going to tumble like this right so then it has delicates woolens which are far as I can tell are identical and then the final mode is the mode I think people use wrongly or don't know or scared of like don't use because they don't know what it means is permanent press permanent press was a mode I use for most of my clothes back when I had a driver that had that option right so permanent press is basically this mode where there's like this like cold rinse at the end I don't know exactly how it works I'll be honest I could Google it yeah the reason you use permanent press is basically to for clothes that you would normally iron and you don't want it to be too wrinkly it washes them in such a way that they won't be too wrinkly yeah right now most of these modes are only relevant to top loaders with agitators well because the side loader has permanent yes here's the problem the differences between them are way less with the side loader because the main reason there's so many extra modes in the top loader is that if the agitator spins it fucks up your clothes anyway like I read right now on what permanent press cycle washes the clothes that wash and warm rinse cool not cold cool and the agitator is set to low and the spin cycle at the end that rings the water out is also not that fast so the clothes get dried less in the washer because that last cycle I don't want to get into all this but basically the actual parameters you can set in a top loader are the heat of the wash the heat of the rinse whether or not there is a secondary rinse how fast the agitator spins or moves how fast the thing moves at the end when all the waters drain to ring the water out some modes will not do the ring at all because that will mess up like a woollen anyway so permanent press is great for like dress shirts, dress pants khaki pants with a crease you put permanent press anything that's going to get wrinkled and you're going to have to iron it later or you hopefully maybe want to try to avoid ironing that's when you use the permanent press mode if you've got clothes like that maybe save up enough of them to fill the whole washer and wash them all together so it's more economical you don't want to like wash your jeans and then put in one dress shirt on its own wash oh there's one more parameter I forgot about it really only applies to top loaders how full is the load like you only wash in one shirt you'll fill the tank with less water yeah don't put too many clothes in either a washer or a dryer they have a capacity it's only designed to clean so many clothes at once you put more in your stuff just won't get clean yeah it's like it cleans better when you put the right amount of clothes and you put too many clothes in it can't clean all them they don't all really get clean you know if you put it too much stuff in the dryer it won't all get dry you got it right put in the right amount don't put in some ridiculously tiny amount it'll get super clean but it's a super waste to run the whole washer to clean like one pair underwear right but make sure you put you know a reasonable amount if you're jamming stuff in and trying to squeeze it in too much yep if there's no empty space in there whatsoever too much yep and there should be some empty space but it shouldn't be like super empty and all this is much less of a concern again if you got a side loader side loaders are you still don't want to overload the side loader but at least the side loader won't have like some weird unbalanced problem yeah an overloaded side loader will still wash your clothes better than a normally loaded top loader yeah anyway I think that's enough laundry talk yeah bam stop