 things to actually happen. So, the term is it going? Should have had a hat. Uh you talking over the intro music. Good. Good evening everybody. How is everybody doing tonight? Tuning in live right here live stream. This is what's happening on the Rust Belt mechanic channel. Tonight we have some amazing guests joining us. We have Doug and Andrew or Babcox Media. They're the amazing guys who put on a lot of their social media goodies that you hear over on YouTube, on Instagram. Doug's been live with me on the T2IQ podcast all here over the last couple of weeks. Guys, why don't you throw an introduction on kind of who you are, where you come from, etc. there. I'm Andrew Markell. I'm the director of content for the tech group, which is breaking front end magazine and for car and under head service, as well as tomorrow's technician. I write a lot of articles. ASC certified former technician been with the company for about 21 years now. Awesome. And Doug? Hi everybody. I'm Doug Kaufman and my career pretty much mimics Andrews. I've never gotten paid to work on cars. I am editor of tomorrow's technician. Also editorial director with the tech group. So Andrew and I work hand in hand on a lot of things, not hand in hand necessarily, but we have been with the company in close to 30 years and pretty much most of the magazine titles that we have things of advance from magazines to all sorts of different digital things, social media, videos, podcasts, webinars. So really kind of a communicator when it comes to the industry helping to share information between suppliers and readers or participants really. There we go. Getting all that good information out for everybody to like and enjoy right here. Get it out to the masses. So if you guys did not know, myself and Mr. Doug Kaufman here have been doing a podcast series called T2IQ. It's live over on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, pretty much the worst wherever you guys want to see it or listen to any podcast from. It's a 10 part series that we've kind of recorded and gone live to and it's, you know, a good amount of informational questionnaire to help some of these newer technicians and or some of the older technicians kind of navigate their way through an automotive career or what there is going on within the automotive industry. A little Q&A back and forth between Doug and myself and it's been a pretty fun, fun little trip with this one and I definitely have been enjoying it myself. For questions tonight, we have been taking questions through T2IQ as well as on my Instagram and through my email. You guys also see in the comments here where you can put some questions into if you would like your personal questions answered by us here live on the live streams as well. On top of that answering all of the questions that you guys put into the Q here, we are also going to be doing some really cool giveaways as well. All you guys have to do is be here for it. No entry in any other places and the people who are here live, are they going to be the ones who are going to be winning? We'll do those giveaways starting off in about 15 minutes or so for the first one. So let's kick everything off and get into some of the live questions that I had emailed to me over the last couple of days from streams and such. So first question of the night is going to be coming from Gary. He is asking for tips for men and women who have served in our armed forces and aren't necessarily considered young guns but they still want to pursue their passion in the automotive trade field. Now me myself, I have not served in the armed forces but I have quite a background in a lot of friends who have. As a matter of fact, one of my really good friends worked on A-10 Warthogs for the better part of his career and came into more of an engineering degree coming into not exactly automotive but engineering and working on different satellites, how to kind of stuff. But the use of hand held knowledge and tools, the engineering ideology that you have to have for any of those kind of careers, it carries over quite well into an automotive or just any kind of a hands on general career. And I think that's where a lot of the newer technicians coming into the military and things are beginning to be trained in the newer technologies coming out. They're getting the leading edge sort of absolutely anything in the country so why not getting into the automotive industry? It might actually even be a step back in some of the technology that they're used to. What do you guys have to say about that? There's a lot of great programs out right now for a lot of veterans who are coming out of the service to not only be technicians and get hired at a lot of pretty exclusive chains like let's say Christian Brothers or a lot of dealerships but they're even setting up programs for a lot of service people to eventually get out and open up their own franchises. So that would be my best advice is research some of the larger chains and even approach some of the shops in your area. Everybody's looking for someone right now. There's a huge shortage in technicians in the industry now and that's only going to continue. A lot of techs have for one reason or another decided to go to different careers in some cases and so shop owners are looking for people who are experienced, who are dedicated, passionate, capable of working with teams and certainly in the military you have a team aspect there so there's a lot of good opportunities for vets these days. And use your GI bill. I can't say that one enough. Definitely the government is going to give you free money. Use that to the fullest extent. If you have the capability of using the GI bill and having that as kind of a fallback and earning more degrees, more training, the more training that you get into the better off you are getting started in your career. If you're able to hold off I guess working that full time gig, the most training that you can get that is definitely by far the best thing that you can do and why not get it free. Free things are the best. There's a site called recruitmilitary.com that is designed for helping vets find their next careers. So I would say check that out as well. Sounds like some pretty good information there that's for sure. All right let's get into a second question here. Pull one up. Daniel actually has two questions kind of runs from the same area to start off with. He said there are no cost effective or cheap enough automotive school options around where I live. At what point am I getting ripped off cost-wise for an automotive education? And is it necessary for me to go to school to be successful in an automotive career? Now for the first point of that question on what is considered being ripped off, at what point do you consider that to be? That one is a very loaded question and it's going to be started off by how much you plan to make and that also ties into what kind of geographic or area of the country that you live in, what the cost of living is going to be, and how fast you can think that you might be able to pay those student loans back if you are getting student loans. Obviously you need to look into any kind of student assistance first off. Pell grants, tuition grants through the government as well as local grants. There's a lot of local people who are looking to give away money for students who really want to get into blue collar and hands-on career. As a matter of fact, last year I did a Rustbolt Mechanics Scholarship and unfortunately the hardest part was finding the schools and the students to be able to take the money for that. So there are people out there that are wanting to give to students who are looking to get into the fields. You just kind of have to throw your things out there and kind of get rolling onto what you really want in your career. Now as far as the second part of that question and is it necessary for me to go to school, it is not. It's not absolutely necessary but I just did a video here recently over the last couple of months that covered this point as a matter of fact and starting your automotive career, what kind of a pay scale you get started off into compared to what kind of pay scale you would get started off is if you were coming out of a college degree area or having a couple of years of training in under your belt. And I would have to say that the growth rate of the technicians who come out of having a post-secondary education or at least a dedicated automotive education in high school, if you're lucky enough to have those programs, generally they were making 20% more than the guys who were just jumping into the automotive career without any kind of training or any kind of schooling background. What do you guys think when it comes to the schooling portion at least? You know there's a again when it comes to the shortage, there's been a push over the past several decades to send people to college. Obviously you've got to have a college education to be a success. We know that's not necessarily true and the trades are way closer to you get an education and get a job. Trade schools can be shorter turns can be less expensive than a traditional four-year college. You just have to as you said pay attention and do your research. There's another slide I'm going to throw another slide out. One of our partners on T2 is Techforce.org and the Techforce Foundation has many many many resources for learning more about being educated. In some cases geared to high school students, in some cases is geared to post-secondary but there are a lot of resources for students and parents and and employers on that site as well. I think also too looking at a trade school you've got to look at their associations with different OEMs. We have a school down here at Stark State that has a great relationship with General Motors and their ASAP program. The students coming out of there they're practically guaranteed a job at a GM dealership so if you're looking at the cost versus job placement later on once you graduate you've got to make that connection. A lot of these trade schools have connection with OEMs. They have connections with some of the power sports people like Kawasaki, Honda. That has to look at the overall cost evaluation because you're not just setting up a relationship for two years with that trade school it could be ongoing. I know a lot of technicians that go back to Stark State to get continuing education on some of the GM products. And one thing to remember too is that there are more jobs in this industry than just being a technician. This industry has jobs for every aspect from working on the cars to engineering, to communications, to sales, design. There are so many different things that you can do in this industry. You know I came up through the way I didn't go to trade school when I was getting my education in Ono Abils. I strictly walked into a lot of shops and said hey you got a job and here's my toolbox. That go get an attitude is important but the most important thing you got to remember when you're doing that. Find a good shop to work for if you're dealing with an older technician who knows a lot, listen to him. That is so critical because some of these guys they're not going to be around much longer and if you can find a good shop where you can learn something from a master technician it's priceless. There's a lot of great information that's going away that we need to continue sharing with the next generation. I can't stress that one enough. Being able to find that mentor status that was one of the biggest things we really liked to harp on there during the T2IQ series was getting yourself into the career and then finding somebody to kind of attach and help you navigate your way through at least the early years into your career because it's a dog eat dog world out there. Especially when you're jumping into these big shops maybe even a dealership working flat rate trying to navigate between I've got all these warranty jobs to work with. I've got tool bills. I've got to you know handle all of my education bills to get everything through. Not just the automotive based knowledge that they had to pass down but also the life skill knowledge that they've got as well to kind of hand down like hey I've been where you're at and I've struggled where you're struggling. I've you know missed that tool payment here or there so having somebody like that to just bounce things back and forth on it at least is something that I would definitely recommend to be able to find. That's something big. Yeah the guy I learned from was actually two guys both German it was more or less an apprenticeship and they taught me everything and probably the most important lesson I ever learned from those guys was how to use a hammer and what hammer is appropriate for a certain job. But those guys were first generation German immigrants and they taught me a lot on how to set up a business and how to look at employees and also the value of hard work. The bigger the hammer the better the job right. Isn't that the wish right there. That is the wish. This guy pulled out a drawer of hammers and he had lead hammers copper hammers brass hammers. This was the hammer expert of all time but learning from him and just different metallurgy things and threads and structures and why certain nuts are a certain way and what to look for. I couldn't have gotten that in trade school and that's the practical stuff and that's like you know you have to work in the field for two years to get your ASC. Awesome all great information there. All right I think right now we've got a couple of more questions coming in and getting fed into the stream here but I think it's time to get Captain Ron in here and let's get our first giveaway of the night rolling. Captain Ron has been hiding out here in the background say hi there Captain. He's he's still muted on this little thing but in good faith he's there. What's up everybody. So Captain we're going to be giving away this fancy three piece grit mat set tonight. I have the third one but it's just you know multiple things being used being used in the shop right now. So what we're going to be doing for the giveaways tonight is we're going to be doing a giveaway code word. Captain can you explain that to the guys on here? Yeah so what we got going on is we have a bot as you guys have seen there's different scripts that are rolling every once in a while you'll see me throwing a command on chat exclamation point something. I'm taking care of a lot of that but what you guys need to worry about is the code word that I'm about to give you to enter the drawing. So whenever you see it come up in the chat it's going to say type in exclamation point grip mat that's g-r-y-p-m-a-t. Once that gets going that will get you entered into the drawing for the grip mat. We're going to run it for five minutes. Once that's done I will randomly pick a winner out of everybody who has entered the contest and if they're here then they win. Awesome so let's start the timer there Captain. Okay it is started you guys will see it coming up in the chat right there and off we go. And it is free to enter and it's also free to hit that thumbs up so make sure if you guys haven't already let's make sure to hit that thumbs up button so we can get this kind of kicked off in the youtube algorithm and you know get things started off the right way. If you guys have not used grip mats before I use them almost every day as you can tell this set is not a clean set by any manufacturer to that one I use it heavily and they are chemical resistant everything from diesel fuel all kinds of transmission fluids I've had flopped in here butane just about anything the shop can throw at it I've had them kind of doused in and out of these grip mats all it takes to clean them off is going to be a little bit of dawn dish soap and water or even just break clean spray them off real good it does not break it down they are also heat resistant I want to say up to a couple hundred degrees so if you get any kind of really hot parts or hot tools you're drilling into something and that drill bit gets really hot you can drop it into one of these trays right here and not worry about it melting in any way so another reason I love that is being able to you know carry any of the parts that I have on there as well as tools they're a non skid material so and they're going to stick to some of the painted and softer surfaces really easy contours to just about any of the spaces that you're going to set these things on they're a really really great set to have I would definitely recommend them so that is the first giveaway just a little autograph those autograph now now if I was giving away these ones yes but you guys are actually going to be getting a brand new set not an old dirty rust belt set and just to make sure that everybody in the chat gets entered make sure that you are spelling it correctly it is exclamation point g r y p m a t that will get you entered into the drawing gotcha all right before this one ends let's run in one of our questions from the guys that are in here in the chat tonight dick skinners is going to be asking do you think covid is going to cause a shortage of technicians with colleges being closed down and all going on right now I see that as a huge issue coming on if you didn't know though over the last seven or eight months I worked for sp tools and was a part of their student next tech program not doing that anymore but I do have a lot of background in seeing that one a lot of these schools you weren't able to get into and the ones that the technicians were in even in high school related areas back in 2019 and in through 2020 they wanted to rush these students in getting through their training and careers into just hey get through our program so you guys can pass that's they just wanted to stamp your pass on there and that be it so the amount that they were actually losing out on actual training was a massive amount the high schoolers that were coming through the automotive program they almost totally skipped out on the electrical diagnostic phase of things which is usually the last portion before they go into graduation so they can remember it the best but they barely skimmed it at all so I have bad very bad feeling that the ones that are going to be coming into the automotive field are going to be heavily behind the curve when it comes to those things yeah I think that is the case where they will be behind hopefully they'll be able to catch up of course we work with instructors for our for tomorrow's technicians instructor of the year program which is sponsored by blaster and we work with continental for our student of the month and we work with on the school of the year and all of the participants in those programs told us how over the last year they really had to work to connect with with their students and in a lot of cases they really came up with some creative ways to do it our school of the year winner educator was jack stow out of uh north kansas city schools he developed a program where he worked with guitars and they learned some of the electrical wiring by doing guitar work and he actually presented at nam the the music trade show last week in nashville about how he incorporated those other unique teaching experiences into his program and I think a lot of the schools really a lot of the instructors really did find other ways to engage their students even though they were really up against the eight ball to get the kids active they they did everything they could to keep them engaged it is a very hard even in a normal atmosphere to get them engaged that's that's hard at that level well guys the first giveaway time clock has run up for you guys enter into the grip mat giveaway captain let's get us a winner announced here for this grip mat pro set and the winner of the grip mat set is brad barnett brad barnett who is live in here i just saw him brad i want to make sure that you get your amazing grip mat pro three pack set so with that one i need you to email me your information or message me over on instagram email again is going to be the rust ball mechanic at gmail.com we will get everything shipped to you brand new set my old dirty set sit sitting here so congratulations brad on that win buddy all right yes congratulations thank you captain we'll see you here back again in about another 15 20 minutes for the next giveaway so you guys don't go away on that one we're going to be giving two more really cool things away but we have a lot of more user questions to get through to be able to get into what we wanted to for tonight so next question coming from the stream is going to be from our very own salt master the everyday fleet tech if you guys don't know him he is also here on youtube awesome great guy i like talking to him i like hearing the blatant obviousness to a lot of his youtube the content that he puts forward so he had a question with the current shortage of technicians what do you believe a shop needs to do in order to attract good techs from other shops so that is a really good question because that is something that our current shop that i work in right now at the dealership actually has been going through since i left last september and then ended up coming back and they weren't hardly able to get anybody into the doors to at least apply unfortunately not only is there a massive boom of people wanting to start their own shops at least here in the rust belt they want to you know just pave their own way get their own shop rolling and i totally commend that one but a lot of those pop-up shops are trying to take a lot of the younger technicians and maybe some of the you know more season techs are starting up those shops so to be able to get one from someplace you got to offer enough either you know cashola or you've got to give some really great incentives to be able to do that now not only are you competing for these technicians and everything in the automotive field but you've also got to compete with one the government i'm gonna try not to get a little political on this one however giving out free money to a lot of the younger techs and younger students genuinely doesn't really get them in the right mindset to want to go back to work yet so that's what we've been seeing in that you know hiring of newer techs has been kind of delayed because they are getting a lot of payment checks from the government right now as well as being incentivized by other different sectors you know from food service to manufacturing goods a lot of the plants around here are putting out some really big starting bonuses to be able to get people hired so to be able to go up against that if you're trying to hire a new technician even to do oil changes or whatnot and you're trying to get them at 13 14 bucks an hour you realize that they can jump in at Chipotle and make burritos at 1350 to $14 an hour with no experience that is the things that they're kind of uh swimming upstream against right now do you guys see any other hardships that they're going to be going through well there's a lot of hardships but i think it's not really the shortage of technicians lately in the business it's the ability for shops to build great technicians and retain great technicians if you're a shop and you're expecting the next great master diagnostician to apply for your ad or walk into the board it's not gonna happen you have to be willing to invest in a technician for two to three years build up their training pay them and uh make sure that they can grow up your shop and you sort of more or less you have to make them a partner in the shop so they have a say in what's going on um they have a say in their training it's just not this flat great great relationship you're having with the technician it has to be a lot more and that's what some of the younger technicians are looking for to more or less come in learn um not just crank out hours every day and then buy stuff on the tool track to hopefully do it faster they want to learn and be able to take on a lot more on vehicles like re-flashing your programming diagnostics um so there's there's no shortage of technician technicians out there i'm gonna say that plot plot out right now i'm gonna say it's a lack of shops and also dealers and some trade schools even to build great technicians sometimes the shops that are of or the the technicians that are available are the legends in their own minds they're the ones who decide that they're the best guys in the world and they're going to look for the next opportunity and they may be another shop's problem that shops don't necessarily want to have to pick up yeah i you know we're right now in the process at batcox media hiring a content um producer we have our own garage here and i would almost call it diagnostic ego it's not that they're fixing the car they're fixing the car trying to fix it with their ego well i did this and i used this test lead and i used that it's like come on fix the car or you know tell me how you fix it or at least show us how to do it that's the hardest part and a lot of times even if guys are good enough to be able to do the fixing actually getting them to say that you know they they're not going to be mentor status i'm going to say that one they're able to put that forward into a an easier form of knowledge for somebody who's just coming into or just learning that to be able to grasp that themselves it's hard finding somebody who's both good at what they do and able to pass on that information in a good you know format for somebody to understand i gotta agree with jack still right here he has a comment on the uh chain here about independence doing it better i think independence are more flexible than a lot of the larger shops or chains it's really kicking that employee to give them better benefits um to help grow their diagnostic ability like training different training events and maybe even a tool stipend yeah this isn't the 80s and 90s where uh the dealerships had a bigger hand up because they were you know these big dealerships we have you know all of this to offer we've got a bigger background we can give a better 401k or this and that no the day of the the tech and the internet is happening right now there's all kind of different conglomerates to be able to get into for these little shops to be able to offer really good insurance for their people and for training to be able to get them independent training online is another really big and really great selling aspect for some of the techs one of the biggest questions that i always tell people when they guys who are coming into the field hey i'm you know they're asking what kind of questions should i ask what should i expect in an interview and from the technician aspect one of the biggest things that you should be asking of that employer is where am i going to go from here what kind of steps do i have to get up in the rung at your dealership or with your shop what kind of training are you going to offer or put me through to be able to further my career over the next couple of years and is that going to happen in any short amount of time or are you just going to kind of you know kind of sweep it under the rug until you deem that it's necessary after you see the cars already coming through the door it's a hard thing to try to put forward that's that's for sure so we got another question from gray sira for doug and andrew there appears to be lots of buzz about the elevated push to move into the electric vehicle world where do you see this going and at what pace and for those in the automotive repair field how aggressive should we be with amping up our education in the ev arena we'll let you guys start on this one um start now there's a lot of opportunities with a lot of vehicles out there i mean there's a Ford Focus electric there is a fiat 500 electric vehicle they're slowly making their way out of california um i think start looking at it today because if you start thinking that these vehicles have no opportunities for maintenance and repair you're wrong they may be electric but they're going to hit the same potholes on the roads and freeways so suspension brakes everything applies from internal combustion to an electric vehicle um other things with maintenance all of these vehicles just about every single electric vehicle out there has a 12 volt battery underneath either the front or the rear and that usually runs a lot of the architecture like let's say lights parking brake abs so that's another opportunity you can't ignore um the other opportunity in there is coolant all of these electron electric vehicles they have coolant to cool the batteries and they also have h-back systems that are using r134 or 1234 um so there are definite opportunities for these vehicles because they're on the same roads they have the same systems just they've got an electric motor instead of a control combustion engine as a company we're putting a big push toward the electric vehicles as well as sharing information with our with our readers and there's so much changing on a daily basis i think with the electric vehicles and it may feel like in some parts of the country it's never going to get to you up in the up in the northeast for half or some places where electric vehicles haven't made a lot of inroads yet they're common because they understand they're common and a lot of the parts be applied over the different years um you know in terms of wheel bearings brake pads there's a lot of manufacturers out there at the point where they have probably 95 percent coverage of all the ebs on the road but um you know we're looking at this also from a business perspective and also a service perspective and we have the buzz newsletter that is coming out and along with aftermarket news lots of the aftermarket world is definitely getting into the e-v world or at least trying to kick off into it there's so much more new technology that's arising that's not just e-v in the way of a dot systems global connectivity between different vehicles and all their markets automated driving systems are going to be the next wave of the future as well keeping up on these technologies and the new systems that are coming forward is going to be a huge thing that if you get behind in any point even as an independent automotive shop you're going to fall behind really really quickly i'd say probably here within the next five years or so i watch a youtube channel on here on youtube called veritasium a huge channel great guy does a lot of really in-depth diving into different fields and all and this last week he actually did an episode on automated driving systems and um he did a poll asking all of his subscribers in what format do you see automated driving and e-v driving coming to the forefront being the number one seller in the country and many people were thinking i were you know probably 10 or so years out for that to actually happen i'm just here to let you know that it's knocking on the door and it's here right now for that and he proved that on his video he actually jumped in with a company called i believe it was wemo uh down in near phoenix arizona they are having automated driving services automated taxi services that are live on public roads happening right now they are fully certified to be able to do so in certain areas and that's going to be doing nothing but exploding and booming because that's a huge market that is not yet been uh really kind of delved into across the entire us so a lot of these big startups are going to be coming into the e-v and into the automated driving market just for that part alone look how uh your food delivery services have exploded over the last year or so i can see that happening with the uh automated driving solutions and taxi services here especially in bigger cities over the next one to two years would be my guess my prediction alignment is going to be coming a leading service um for electric vehicles i mean if you have an alignment wreck right now go out there put the banner across your shop this is range increasing alignment and service um and also with a lot of these automatic driving systems that alignment instead of just a 99 dollar alignment we're doing a four wheel alignment you're also doing a steering angle sensor relearn you could also be adjusting the camera and the radar sensors at the same time so there's a lot of great opportunities for the independent aftermarket and also the dealers it's the integration process everything works together you can't you know a collision repair shop can't just fix the the body the undercar guy can't just put the shocks on if the camera is not working right and all of the all of the alignment systems aren't in sync that car is not going to know where it is going down the road and so it's it's more important than ever that the integration process is understood it is and mcbake brings up a really good deal that right up here in the northeast in the rust belt it's prime for ev mechanics we deal with already the rust belt salt conditions getting into harnesses already how do you think that's going to play in high voltage arenas you know once you're dealing with these three and six hundred volt units now you're dealing with corrosion and depleted battery cells and you know harnesses that have been depleted or you know broken into because of weather or whatever squirrels for l anybody knows you know these repairs are going to be a massive thing that you have to think about and up here it's going to be a whole different ballgame when it comes into it that's for sure if you go out to sema this year you'll be able to participate at the at the las vegas convention center they just installed the loop which is with tesla and they're going to be using all these electric cars that will take from one part of the convention center to the other that sounds exciting because getting on the tram loop there was impossible the last two years i was in vegas a few weeks ago and it is as crowded as i've ever seen it for a trade show and i wasn't there for a trade show so i think there's going to be a big push a big return for people all these different transportation models are going to be in use that's for sure now what is that going to get into for for new shop owners and shops that are getting into that right now one of the biggest things that i wanted to bring up was the ados calibration that andrew got into there that once you get into the alignments and repairs of these vehicles for ados calibration that's a whole another massive tool set that you're going to have to think about as a shop owner on average these ados equipment sets are costing between 20 and 27 thousand dollars just for the basic set to get started off with now there's really cool ones out there there's a company called chief that is running a fully automated one if you guys know anything about setting up ados calibration they're paying to set up they they are they really suck they take on average an hour and a half to two hours just to align the car to what you're aligning all the measurements that you have to take and everything it's it's a horrible process now this one from chief they they have where you can line it up with the car it's on an automated track system where it moves itself back and forth and is able to align itself on the car so it's able to take that alignment period for the calibration from that hour to an hour and a half down to about five minutes and when the machine costs anywhere from 60 to 70 grand depends on how many of these alignments and calibrations that you're doing right now you may not see it as a huge investment or something that's not worth it but later on down the road when you might see 40 plus of your cars coming through the doorway is needing them it might be a good thing to think about now even if you're a mechanical shop and you've got some of these you know let's say 2016 or 17 and up uh let's say like a Escalade uh large SUV from General Motors that has the supercruise if you do anything like let's say change out the radiator do something in the front end and you do not get that thing aimed properly and let's say it's aimed up just like a little bit like this it does the strangest thing on the freeway because since the sensors pointing this way instead of out like this it will come up to the back of the vehicle very quickly and all of a sudden detect the top of it instead of the back of it and it is the scariest thing ever um it's actually real fast oh yeah but we've been playing with the uh the Bosch system the Autel system and also the launch system in our garage and uh it's been very interesting just to see how these different manufacturers are making the setup process just a little bit easier instead of using like a plumb bob they've got like a laser they've got like a special measuring device Autel actually has gotten in with being the manufacturer's standardized ADOS calibration setup uh in the Chrysler dealership we just got the most recent ADOS calibration setup from them as our standardized special tool and unfortunately we and that's one of the things they force the dealerships you have to buy them because the new Grand Cherokee is the Grand Cherokee Els and Wagoneers that are coming out they have that already that you need those things for thankfully we haven't had to touch them because our dealership we don't even have a place to be able to set them because of the requirements that each shop is going to have and that's another thing that shops are going to have to think about to be able to use these ADOS calibration equipment you've got to have a perfectly flat bay with no grades no drains and it's going to be roughly 15 to 20 feet wide by 25 to 30 feet long to be able to handle a lot of these ADOS calibrations you know there's a our cover story in shop owner magazine this month is on a a business out of medicine wisconsin called precision diagnostics what they do is actually mobile ADOS repairs for collision shops and also mechanical shops that don't have the space to do that one of the most interesting things they do i think is that they also do windshield shops because if you replace a windshield that has cameras in it as well and they have started expanding across the country to offer that service because a shop like yours you've got other things that you have to get done collision shops have other things that you have to get done so they can come in and do that service for you let you continue doing what you do best they do this so there are all sorts of new opportunities that is presenting challenges sure but opportunities as well exactly jack so that's a great question and we'll get into that one here in just a second we're going to bring captain back into here for our next giveaway which is going to be thanks to the toolbox widget why are you telling about that one capitan so those of you guys don't know toolbox widget it is a modular toolbox organizational uh system i guess you could say that hold your wrenches hold your sockets hold your pliers all kinds of different stuff i actually implement them in my box i know kyle uses them in his they are fantastic and there's not a whole lot to them but man are they versatile they are really really awesome so let's get this one kind of kicked off here because this is going to be a pretty big giveaway uh not only are we just going to give away like a couple little boxes of this no toolbox widget was awesome enough to give us a really big allowance for this giveaway we're going to be given away $500 worth of toolbox widgets like that's a lot of widgets that's a lot you could put like everything and then some and now they have a lot of stuff they know they have the screwdrivers and picks so they got the separators for those they have the separators that are a little bit taller and some of the wider ones for the plier organization and they also have their newest socket organization when it comes to quarter inch three eight and half inch so $500 worth of that is going to be coming to one lucky winner let's get this one rolling all right open giveaway has started so once you guys see it in the chat make sure you type in exclamation point widget that's w i d g e t uh make sure you put that in the chat that'll get you entered in the drawing we're going to go for five minutes again uh you got to make sure you put the exclamation point in front of it or else you will not be entered but once five minutes is gone then we will pick another winner exclamation point widget is how you get on that is free to enter doesn't cost you a single thing i mean Doug and Andrew when it comes to toolbox organization how is that not one of the most important things as a technician you know that was uh a great analogy about one technician taught me was organize your tools have the proper things to organize them and then everybody like wondered why he after job he took cleaning up the tools every single time why he was taking the time because most when i was a technician i would just get the tools get the job done throw the tools back in the toolbox and part of his thing was he says look at my hands they're clean so toolbox organization and cleanliness or hygiene if you want to call that very important don't forget about your just being able to get the job done a little bit faster if you don't know where your tools are at or how they're organized if they're just thrown into a pile as a flat rate technician that's going to be wasting a lot of time during your day i liked your one video where you had the guy with the bucket of tools that was kind of funny he literally literally had a bucket of tools everybody thinks that you know oh no that's just something he said on their note it literally was just a bucket of tools pretty sure that was a comment on like one of my first videos it really was i will admit that's quite a few of my tools at home nice like i said i don't get paid to work on cars all right while this one's running let's run in another question that we had um let's see from jeff what are some pointers to be able to fit in quote unquote coming into a shop as a new technician you guys want to start with this one i'll start with that one because i've been there before um learn to listen ask a lot of questions and uh don't try to be cocky because you're going to make mistakes and uh just be willing and humble that's my best advice on your first weekend in a shop i think that's uh the idea that the guys you're working with may be old they still know a few things they uh they understand some things that you haven't learned in school yep they were born but they were not born yesterday they have likely you know one of my mentors that i had was good ol ralph and good ol ralph he had a lot of euphemisms when it comes to the automotive field uh mr ralph had a lot of things to be able to hand down and a lot of nonsense that you didn't really need to know either but at the same time he probably has forgotten more information about cars than i have still yet to learn in my 13 plus years in this field uh some of the information that you you know kind of get and collect it's it's something that has to be passed down especially when it comes to some of the older things that you may not be used to in the shop not everything is going to be about the newest latest greatest things you're still gonna have a lot of people that are gonna bring 14 to 20 plus year old cars in your shop they gotta get them fixed somewhere and if nobody has that knowledge or information anymore i unfortunately you're just letting money just roll out the door so trying to get some of that older information is still one good thing to be able to have in your you know kind of tricks of the trade to be able to have and um another one of the things that uh i would have to say for fitting into a new shop is to not be cocky about your abilities when you get into a new shop and i've seen it multiple times where they ask the technician coming in hey what are you good at what kind of things have you done before i i've done a little bit of everything i've i've done this and that i've i've been able to fix about anything that can come through the door and they get thrown anything that comes through the door and 30 to 50 percent of the stuff in the first weekends of coming back you can't lie when it comes to what you know and what you don't know it will come out in a look as a very bad stain on the beginning of your career in a shop not a great thing to kick off yeah i worked at a shop where um the first two or three weeks it was a european german shop so it was always five-cylinder Mercedes diesel student valve adjustment or air cool post wagon that was always rusty and that's sort of and he also made you clean the bathroom at the same time and his theory was you know if you can't clean the bathroom properly how am i gonna let you work on some of these expensive vehicles so um definitely a learning experience for me mm-hmm all right well looks like our second giveaway has ended and it's a big one guys this is one of the biggest ones of the night you guys are getting $500 your own shopping spree into the toolbox widget world so captain let's get us a winner oh it looks like i won that one no haha now the winner for the $500 shopping spree is going to be chad ulmer chad ulmer are you in here buddy i know you obviously had to be at least to uh enter into it i see you did enter chad ulmer you are the winner of the $500 toolbox widget giveaway on tonight's t2iq live stream now to be able to get that one as captain put down into the comments right here make sure you email me over at thel rustwell mechanic at gmail.com with all of your name and shipping information so we can get you well not the shipping information we really don't need that for this one you're just going to get some coupon codes to be able to get some free goodies through the toolbox widget website getting brand new ones for yourself so that's pretty awesome i don't even think i don't even think i have $500 worth of toolbox widgets in my toolbox here dude you and i could you and i could go through five hundred dollars really quick yeah i have a lot but i don't think i have that much man that's nuts but big thank you to toolbox widget uh the guys over there uh jonathan and sadevi the owners of toolbox widget they are some amazing people veteran-owned local here in the united states and they're working on getting everything manufactured here in the us as well coming up soon so you know really cool things that they're doing and being innovative for newer better greater things is one of the best things that i like to support these kinds of us companies for so if you even if you did not win i would definitely recommend you guys over and check out toolbox widget uh the code rust belt will actually still get you a discount in that one i'm not sure if it's uh 10 or 20 one of those two will get you a discount when it comes to anything over at toolbox widget dot com all right well captain we will see you again here in about another 15 20 minutes or so for the last giveaway but in the meantime we've got a couple of more questions to be able to answer from everyone let's go with a question from colin he was asking a continuation on our ados stuff since we're kind of on that train uh he thinks do we think that we will start seeing shops specialize in performing just ados repair calibrations in the near future yeah i think that's a case as we said precision diagnostics is a start i think there's going to be more of them as well definitely a lot more of these shops because the equipment's expensive and there's only so many that they're seeing right now and it's quite the investment for shop like isn't it 20 000 to 30 000 dollars i think that you're going to see a lot more i guess local conglomerations to where like here where i live in the middle of no man's land roughs belt in the central Ohio area it's not a lot of huge industry there's not a lot of big cities live in just north of Dayton so the smaller industry areas where we've got a bunch of little mom and pop shops a couple of dealerships here and there they're going to utilize each other for a certain i guess differences in these big cost equipment when it comes to diagnostics at least so i see them kind of making deals with each other you know certain body shots saying hey i'll give you a discount on doing this you know you give me a discount on doing some ados you know this or that i see them being able to you know make some deals on getting some of those things because that it's going to be a big money market and i see that more just because of what the vehicles are doing how much they cost to repair the labor time that it's taking that they're even paying warranty time to do these ados repairs and the labor time that insurance companies are paying as well when you're talking about body shops insurance companies they pay out a lot of money a lot of big money to shops who are able to get the job done and not have issues with these cars down the road because it's a big liability for their insurance down the road so having that as a you know kind of fall back to have specialized shops that are known for doing good work and keeping them rolling down the road is it's going to be a big thing coming up i can definitely see that one i guess it's uh important to remember too that as andrew pointed out the ados is only going to be part of those cars that will still have to be repaired there's still the mechanical things that have to be done and the average age of the vehicle on the road remains 11 and a half years and is only getting older so there's still going to be cars that need to be repaired so these these shops are going to still have to do that work so to find a resource that they can utilize to do the uh to do that ados stuff for them is only going to help them be successful another specialty i see happening in the future is uh guys reflashing reprogramming updating modules um that business it's tough to stand top of because you basically have to be an IT guy to you know go through your computer go through your jbox um there's a couple guys out there around our area doing it right now so i think that it can reflasher your program understand computers i think your career is set in the automotive world i definitely definitely agree with you there now one of the other biggest hiccups that i think the automotive world has right now is kind of what we're leading into for the next question from dick skinner again uh he's one to ask about the issues with parts shortages do we think that the you know the issues that they're having with having lack of parts no parts wrong parts or cheaper parts being made do you think that that will force new industry coming into the united states instead of looking at cheaper things overseas i personally think that that is a growing trend that is going to be happening nationwide here in the united states regardless of being automotive or not the pandemic opened a lot of people's eyes when it comes to supply and demand of what makes their industry tick and roll on down the road if you are relying on different countries different suppliers overseas that may not have the substantial chain to be able to keep you supplied in a hard time as we saw over the last year then you know making it through another massive world issue like this pandemic it makes you a second guess more things down the road so i see not only the automotive industry but pretty much every industry uh striking up as soon as they can find the workers that is right now to be able to fill those industries for manufacturing goods for getting us raw materials to be able to make these parts i think one of the biggest growth areas especially with big companies like amazon like walmart and having one-day shipping having drone delivery services for their their distribution if they're able if they're able to bring the distribution costs down with all of these parts in manufacturing that's going to bring the total manufacturing process and final sale value to the customer down drastically and obviously bring more money into the industry what do you guys think i think you're right um manufacturing will start getting closer to home i think we're going to get better manufacturing techniques like 3d printing uh some of the auto parts um but it's scary right now honestly you know a lot of my stuff that i'm waiting for i know that one thing i'm waiting for is actually on a boat in uh long beach where you could be unloaded and it's been out there uh waiting to be unloaded for about two months a racing seat um so i think that that's a big issue um you know making sure also the part quality is there too it's happening everywhere and we weren't set up to do this i would say probably about you know 0809 when we had that first great recession um a lot of parts manufacturers rethought their entire inventory they weren't going to sit on a part that would turn for a couple years they thinned out their inventory and we're kind of feeling the results right now now that they're of course gone and waiting forever for stuff that seems like the chip shortage is my son has been waiting for my son's been waiting for a transmission control module for his car for two months the dealer is paying us to drive a rental car because they can't get they can't get the park that is playing not just any single manufacturer but the chip shortage you can't buy a brand new ford right now did you see where all the fords are being piled up at the kentucky motor speedway thousands and thousands of vehicles that just don't have ecu some of them fully manufactured ready to go 20 000 vehicles just sitting there you do anything with them that's it's painful it's funny too in europe uh pujo was actually uh redoing their uh speedometer and odometer mechanically instead of electronically because they couldn't find the chips maybe we will be able to work on our cars again under the in the driveway or under the shade to be able to get them out down the road i'm sure that they will come with some kind of you know thing to get them whether they're going to retrofit old parts into new parts whatever it might be but what's happening right now cannot continue even in the everyday market right now with the dealership the part shortage has gotten to a point where it is degrading businesses massively customers are getting back into 20 things they're starting to make money back with all of you know their jobs getting things rolling and they're wanting to spend money again and spending money on new rides or upgrading or just plain fixing the cars that they have is a really big thing i know that right now i have approximately 12 repair orders hanging in a slot up in our parts department just waiting on parts now originally some of those parts we would quote them and they would come back and say oh it looks like you're going to be two to three days out the distribution we'll say is not very forthcoming or knowledgeable when they are distributing these parts or where they may be at so that two to three days may turn into five to seven days or maybe even greater than 45 days is what they're quoting parts at right now when i can when they can click on a button in our parts department and for waiting for availability usually you would say one to two days two to three days a week or so was what we were used to seeing now they're seeing wait times that are preset into the computer programs of 45 days or more that is just horrible i know we've been waiting on a commons engine controller for 2010 commons that i was working on for the better part of five weeks now this is a guy's business like he uses this truck for every single day he needs these things and unfortunately this being under a parts warranty he has to have the mopar part to you know be under the warranty because this is a $3,000 engine controller he can't just go get an aftermarket one so he has to wait on that part from dodge so it sucks it really does yeah lkq they're making a killing right now oh yeah they are they're selling those parts for more and they're worth they were worth brand new oh yeah that leads me into i'm gonna pick apart this this question to it uh because it kind of leads off of that one the shortage of all the parts and everything are really dragging the market down right now uh with that the cost of vehicles are sky rocketing through the roof people are keeping their vehicles longer and longer is that going to drive the automotive repair field into a different way of fixing older vehicles rather than having new ones come forward with new technology you guys want to start with that one i'll take that one um yeah definitely the vehicles i mean we're gonna see 12 years my prediction is once electric vehicles start getting on the marketplace the average life of the internal combustion vehicle will be 17 years that'll be the average and here's my theory people are going to buy the electric vehicles once it starts taking off but they're going to keep the internal combustion engine vehicle in the backyard for a long trip the zombie apocalypse who knows towing towing exactly um but i think definitely uh vehicles being serviced because i know a lot of dealerships if they saw anything older than 10 years they would practically almost like close the garage door so they couldn't pull in the uh the service aisle uh back today but now yeah they're like come on bring it in but yeah use car values are just getting insane right now i think it's really going to have an impact on the demolition derby market in this year's summer fairs you're gonna be throwing a lot of money out the window for that one the bets are gonna have to come up guys because we gotta afford these demo cars for you to enjoy you realize you're driving a seven thousand dollar car in this year's derby as a matter of fact we had a couple that just came in through the dealership that we work at a couple of weeks back they have bought brand new a 2016 ram 3500 duly limited in long hoarding package uh it was a fantastic shape uh they only drove it to drive their fifth wheel trailer to and from the campgrounds which was only twice a year putting it in taking it back out putting in the storage and after that they are they didn't use it as a grocery getter or anything so this vehicle they're looking at trading it back in with only 19 000 miles from 2016 back in 2016 this is a high end truck mind you they gave $53 000 for this truck brand new in 2016 our dealership gave them $56 000 for this truck on trade they are going to sell this truck for $61 000 right now because they just don't exist in this market having that truck it's a pretty you know it's a it's a really big one that people really really want nobody's selling old ones right now especially ones that are really little mileage and have all of the documentation to where they have been what they've done exactly what they're doing uh they're not i guess hot riding them or tearing them apart and modifying them so these gold mine vehicles like that are highly sought after and they are often bringing more money than what they even sold for originally i think that's happened in a lot of cases you don't see used cars sitting on the side of the road anymore in a yard anymore they're they're selling everybody's buying whatever they can find it's just like houses it's funny auto success or one publication has a um advertiser has this little piece of software that goes on the service aisle for the service riders think it automatically as a car comes through they get the good number they know what it is they assume the value and it sends a email to the sales department and they try to buy the car if that's a certain make model package um say hey we cannot get you in a brand new car today we'll take your car and not trade today um but yeah the valuation of anything coming from the service aisle lots of dealers are doing it anything to get those in and i just did another video on why you should not sell your used truck in this market right now yes the temptation is massive and if you can afford to not have that truck and not have that to be able to work and do whatever you're used to it doing over the last you know hour many years and right now is the time to do it you know it definitely is but if there's that reason that you still need a truck you're like yeah i might be able to sell my 2010 Dodge or 2010 Chevy truck for 30 000 plus dollars what kind of a truck are you going to purchase after that you got to look at that market first because yeah these guys are like oh that's stupid money i'll take that in a heartbeat you know when there's nothing else out there to buy unfortunately you got to think that first and foremost you have a 2016 Silverado with about 20 000 miles on it got it from my father-in-law just before he died start sending me those offers they are out there and i guarantee dealerships especially in this area would offer you almost as much as that vehicle is worth brand new brand new do you do you think services like carvana are kind of hurting these used car prices by getting them higher and higher massively massively because at the rate that they were able to do business with puts them at an advantage and they're honestly paying dumb money for cars that are sight unseen they're going off of photographs they're going off of the word of people in many circumstances because there's not a lot of them for sale in the market right now so they're buying up all these cars regardless of what they're you know they are what they're worth what their value is how much it's going to take to repair them some of them they went on some of them they lose on they try to take advantage of you know people who are in a pinch and need to get the vehicle gone quick because they offer you know hey well you can send somebody out to pick this vehicle up in the next 12 hours for you and we will direct deposit x amount of thousand dollars of cash directly into whatever account that you want or we'll send you a certified check with the driver that's that's a pretty good deal for some people especially if they're hurting after the pandemic that we just went through so right now the dealerships independent or big dealers they cannot find cars and just for anything and there's certain models that are out there that are even just ridiculous as other ones wranglers right now are in heavy demand any kind of minivan honda the new pacificos you literally cannot find a used one within 20 miles of where i live right now my mom has been looking for one and they just don't don't exist durangos as captain said another big one in anything with a truck bed yep it's big things are definitely happening and those online guys are definitely taking a chip into their business let's move on to one more question before we do our final giveaway um let's go to uh let's see i got a couple more hose said i am just getting out of school and want to go where the money is i'm not tied down to any certain area what parts of the country are best for making money in the automotive repair field or what kind of training should i get to make the most money you guys want to start there too just getting out of school i think some of the big population areas obviously florida dallas austin california um the bigger the city typically the more you're going to get paid salary wise or flat hour rate but you also have to take it to the component of the cost of living um we're going to go because a shop in let's say miami may be paid 25 an hour maybe more than that but it's going to cost you a lot more to live there so you know look for the best account for the cost of living and overall wages if you can't go from that i'd suggest going back to uh techforce.org you know the tech course fund they've done a lot of resources on on finding uh finding that next opportunity and um they work with the work with the shop and they work with the schools that help determine where those new locations can be one of the other things that i would recommend kind of bringing to the attention would be um the your background and what kind of help you have in that area yes you may not have any kind of family in the area however if you're looking on doing training or you're looking at getting into any kind of schooling if you have somebody or somewhere that you're able to get i guess cheaper housing affordable housing while you get that training done early on in your career i'm still going to recommend that you look into the most cost effective training source right off the back you may be right out of high school however if you're looking to get trained in the automotive field through a local tech college or maybe one of the bigger tech schools it's going to be some big cost if you don't have a whole lot of financial aid when it comes to getting into that so look into some place that where you might be able to get an affordable place to stay so you don't go into too much debt right off in your career all right well captain let's bring you back in for the third and final giveaway right now we're going to be doing the third and final giveaway and what are we giving away mill walkie tools baby that's right mill walkie tool was awesome enough to give us a really badass kit their new brushless mill walkie fuel stubby one-half inch m12 impact this thing packs a wallop and i use this thing literally every single day and it was at the top of the list of my top tools that i just can't live without at the dealership so what do you think about it captain i don't have the stubby version of that but i have the regular uh while i take that back i've got two versions of the mill walkie half inch impact i've got the excuse me the big the big heavy mammot jama that uh kyle was willy or nice enough to give me for a graduation gift um and that thing that thing will rip anything off almost just like anything else uh but the downside of it is that it's use it every single day and it's heavy it is a lot of wear on your arms uh so it comes in kind of well that's why i didn't get the stubby but i've got the smaller half inch impact and i use that thing every single day and have to chase it all over the shop because chris our intern likes to steal it from me so um so yeah i i love the thing i can't i can't say anything bad about it is a awesome piece of equipment um those two impacts themselves actually took me away from using my air impacts pretty much all together awesome all right so let's get this thing rolling what kind of entry word are we looking for this one captain all right so just like the last two entries we did we have a five minute timer on this one the keyword is going to be exclamation point milwaukey m i l w a u k e e and this is going to be for as kyle said the m 12 half inch w impact along with a charger and two batteries so i'm going to go ahead and open up that giveaway right now and you guys have five minutes to get in it that's right and this impact is one of the newer things that i picked up in the half inch version they have both the three eights and half inch versions both of them coming in at a whopping 250 foot pounds of force now when it comes to any kind of impacts you know that as an automotive tech you're carrying around these things all day long and they get cumbersome you're taking wheels on and off and when these bigger impacts or even the mid-torque impacts are weighing anywhere from five to nine and a half pounds now you think that's not a lot but lugging it around all day long it really gets cumbersome so when you're talking about these m 12 here and you're coming in at under four pounds total with the battery so that's that's pretty awesome to be able to say and the depth on them is right at or just right around three and a half to four inches as well so they're able to fit into any space that you really need it to they have three different torque settings here that are selectable they have the one two and three as well as the bolt start function that is where you can ring in a bolt until it hits the very first impact and that will stop the tool right at that point or if you're in the reverse mode it will buzz the bolt loose until it starts to turn and it will stop spinning then at that point so all of those great little functions there with this amazing tool one of the other cool upgrades that i would say that i would recommend is to jump up to the xc 6.0 lithium batteries with it it does make a difference when you're using these tools and at 250 foot pounds for most technicians this is going to take up just about anything that you need it for i even use it on heavy duty wheels and tires ram 45 hundreds putting them on and off works great for that one especially i'll put it on number one or two when putting them back on so that leaves me some room for manually torquing each wheel so great kind of tool now you know you talk about the new technology that we've been talking about all that new technology it's coming when you think about battery technology like that that is able to make you go away from using air tools some of the tool technology is just incredible that's coming out it really is and the battery technology is one of the biggest most booming things in the tool market right now being able to get so many amp hours out of these tiny like said this isn't even an 18 volt battery some of the 18 volt batteries that they're running are 12 12 12.0 batteries and those are just ridiculous but being able to get that kind of a power out of a 12 volt that's pretty awesome they've worked out really well for me especially when i'm trying to steal converters off cars so he's a funny one no honestly there's a couple of guys that keep some of their air tools around in the shop but more and more even the guys who are 60 plus years old still working in the shop they went over to walmart and got themselves a battery impact just because you know more and more you've got to be more flexible as a technician also and getting into these vehicles and what you need to do you might have to work on them out on the lot or wherever the vehicle might be broke down and battery technology is going to get you there where you need it also wasn't helpful if you make it you know take a trip and get a flat on the side of the road there you go mobile mechanic check it in the car and have it in case you need it mobile mechanic for sure another piece of advice if you're a new technician do not go out there and buy the ingress all ran under gun uh the ones that be used for the NASCAR pit stops you do not need that and it's the most annoying thing in the shop because you just hear that whistle over the shop with that gun going off it's like you're just working on a rusty pickup truck come on that that's seven seconds so oh yeah and that's where i you know when i do a lot of these tool reviews i always say you know yes having that biggest baddest gun in the shop is cool in some of the circumstances but when this little guy can get pretty much 90 of the jobs done within everything that i do during the day why do i want to lug something around that is 10 plus pounds i don't i'm a wuss when it comes to that so that's why i like these micro impacts i guess they're gonna fit themselves into the tool market there so yeah all right well looks like the entries have stopped for our final giveaway captain let's get us a final winner for the milwaukee giveaway all right drum roll please uh are we gonna allow duplicate winners i'm sorry we are not allowing duplicate winners for this one chad i'm sorry on that one he won already so we are going to draw a game okay so second time around the winner is if for whatever reason it picked his name again as a winner so the bot really wants him to win but unfortunately since he can't the winner is going to be grease e monkey grease e monkey you are the winner of the milwaukee m12 giveaway congratulations on that one uh glad to see you know some tools going out to some great tech song along in here i know grease monkey he uh he comments on a lot of the videos in here uh good tech in there so glad to see these things going to some good techs out there so congratulations to all of our winners tonight we gave away some really great products and big thank you to all of our different sponsored for these items milwaukee tools and given that great impact away uh grip mat for giving the opportunity to give some of their great pro series mats away and to the toolbox widgets for giving us a $500 giveaway for their tools as well well guys i think we're at the hour and a half mark and i think we got through some really good content tonight do you guys think so great stuff yeah thanks for having us it was a lot of fun guys did an awesome job yep it has been a really great pleasure for this one and again if you guys have not checked it out make sure you go over to either badcox media uh to tomorrow's technician website or to any of the podcast networks apple podcast spotify and look up t2i q we put some great information out there and i'm really hoping that we kind of build on this whole series as well i'm open to taking pretty much any kind of new questions or advice that you guys might have for these live streams i really enjoy doing them and getting on here and enjoying doing the live streams with a lot of these subscribers here with uh the tomorrow's technician guys all the different networks you know it's been a really great time and i enjoy doing these live streams all right well if we don't have anything else everyone thank you for tuning in tonight it's been a great evening we're going to get some really cool content coming up here in the next week or so i got some really good truck shows that we're going to be going to up in wisconsin with ryan's diesel service kicking off a killer truck show on the 29th and 30th of this next month so make sure you stay tuned to check that out hit the thumbs up button on your way out and subscribe to the channel if you haven't we do some really great things on here and i think you're going to enjoy it all right thanks for tuning in tonight guys you guys taking easy