 So, the level of challenge you can take is basically, you know, you can be skilled at Borderlands, but really your level matters a lot. What if you want to play with your friends, and really didn't buy the game when it came out? Right, the whole point of Borderlands is that they're promoting this co-op, right? It's like, oh, you can play with your friends, which is not a lot of FPS's do that. So, you really want to do this, but if you don't start playing at the exact same time, at the exact same character, at the exact same level, either you're going to be going to a place where you're having a fun time and your friend is dying, or your friend is leveling up normally, and you're having a really boring time because all the bad guys are too weak. Yup, now the game has some tolerance for this, because like, you can sort of level up in the course of play, but you're never going to surpass the other person. So, if they started too late, there's literally no way you can play together. That gap is too great, so either Rin has to start over from scratch to play with Scott, or Scott has to level up more than Rin. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing, start over from scratch. I spent 30 hours of my life getting to this level, and now you want me to go back and do it again from the beginning? I don't think so.