 OTAN, Outreach and Technical Assistance Network. Hi, welcome to Adult Education Online Forums. This is going to be a super informal thing. Going to show you some slides, talk about some of my favorite organizations, and then I'm going to go on to the Online Forums. I also have a couple more to share with you, so let's get started. The question is, is that we're so busy as teachers. Why would we want to join another forum or another organization or do any volunteering? It's so difficult. So, and then it seems that many of the adult education organizations seem to overlap on their missions. So when we go to check out the forums, we get, we want to learn more about the organizations, but we get stopped by the paywalls. So today, I hope to be taking you behind the payrolls and showing you some of the forums. I'm going to be focusing mostly on links, TESL and CoABE and their local affiliates. Please let me know if there's anything in particular that you want me to share with you. For instance, if you want to know more about TESL or you want to know more about CoABE or those kinds of things, I would really be happy to take you where you need to go. Jennifer, can you hear me? Yes, I can barely hear you. Barely hear me, yeah. Okay, now I can hear you, yeah. Okay, so. Now I can hear you really well. Because I'm right here, okay. Yeah, so we're going to have the monitor move closer to you. So that way, one of the back comes in, I'll say, okay, do you got a question? Did you hear me? Yes, I do. So if you get a question in chat, I'll say, okay, Jennifer, we got a question. Okay, great. Anybody, is everybody okay for me to continue? Yes. Okay, great. So let's move ahead. Today I want to really talk about something that I just, well, I have been a member for a while, but I've joined as a moderator. So that is the links, literacy information and communication system. Maybe some of you know it better by its website links.ed.gov. And it's an initiative by the US Department of Education Office and Career Technical and Adult Education. Or you see, you hear this word all the time, octay, octay, not octopus, octay. This is the branch of the US Department of Education that takes care of adult education. And they are responding a lot to WIOA funding and also to IECLE initiatives. So that's the source of our legislation, our initiatives, things that we do every day in adult education. It's coming out of octay. So the links website provides high quality on demand education opportunities to practitioners of adult education. So those practitioners can help adult learners and successfully transition to post-secondary education and 21st century jobs. So we want to get the students build up their literacies, not only in English, but also in work and work skills and digital literacy and cultural literacy, and then so they can move on and integrate into American society. Leaks audiences include adult education instructors, program administrators, adult learners and more. This is the website here, links.ed.gov and they have a YouTube channel where they post some, but not all of their forums where they invite speakers to come in and discuss topics of importance. Another slide. So I want to talk a little bit more about the links community. So there's 13 communities of practice. So this is where people meet and discuss things. They talk about the latest initiatives in their own fields. I want to do a shout out to the civics education and the citizenship forum. I'm the new moderator of this. It was just started. I guess we kicked it off in December. Also, we have a new one from diversity, equity and inclusion. So that also is very, very much reflects the growing want and need and desire for more inclusive education and workforce initiatives. So I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna demonstrate some of the forums on links. So let's click this. So here we are at, well, let me go to the front page. Actually, this is the front page of links. And so at the top, we have community courses, resource collection and state resources. Down here, they have basically welcoming information, some of the resources that we have. And across on the top, again, we have community courses which is professional development courses. I'm currently taking one in diversity and also about adults. Let's see, let me, I wanna get this one right. And maybe it will not come up. Oh, I'm taking one about English language acquisition. So of course, all these are free and self-paced. Resource collection, these are- Jennifer? Yes, please. From chat, we don't see the slide you're referring to. They don't see the slide you're referring to. Okay, one minute, please. I may have popped over a little bit too quickly. Okay, am I okay? Okay, so now I popped over from my slide deck to the links website. Okay, can you guys see it now, Peg and Austin? Yes, thank you, we're good. Okay, great, thank you so much. Yeah, please, please tell me what I'm doing wrong. Okay, help me. Okay, so again, this is the links website and across the top, we're talking about community. So this is where people will come together and discuss different topics, referring to those 13 forums I was talking about. We have online courses for professional development. For instance, I just started one, I started two, and one of them is about diversity and also on English language acquisition. Let's see if I can actually do this. Oh, yes, I can start this. I'm really particularly interested in talking about the language needs of today's adult language learners. So that's really important to me and it's important to me, especially because I teach citizenship and students come in, they say, teacher, I don't speak English, but I have my interview is in one month, what do I do? And so because this has been a pattern that could be very upsetting and very disruptive to classes, I'm trying to basically dig in a little bit deeper so we can prepare the students a little bit better. Also we're very interested in seeing, we've had a new group of people who are coming in that have very or non-existent digital literacy. So again, this is something that's gonna be really helpful and again, it's self-paced and it's free. I want to go back to the resource collection. The resource collection is from the states or from the federal administration and they're basically talking about, here, let me take a look at this one. This one, adult citizenship education. Of course they have this curriculum guide and they're talking about, it's a PDF. They have things in there for math and we have a really, really good and very solid numeracy community on the links. Let me go back up to the top state resources. Again, this is other things specifically coming out of the state. However, to gain access, to gain the fullest access to this information, you're gonna really have to log on. So now I'm gonna be taking you behind the membership wall and the membership to links is free. For instance, if you join some of our other organizations, TESL, Katesel, those kind of things, you're gonna have to get to the meat of this, you're gonna have to pay. Here, it's all free. So I wanna go to community, I wanna log in. You could create an account. Now I've already created my own account but all I required was an email address and my name. I'm logging in. So these are some of the groups that I belong to, but I wanna show you all of them, okay? So here's the community. Again, you're gonna see this. You're gonna see career pathways, some really great discussion in here. Let's take a look at some of the more recent ones. And the more recent ones, I hope you can see that I'm gonna make a little bit bigger, okay? So we have some really recent discussion about financial aid for adult learners and this has been a big stumbling block for some of our students who are trying to transition from adult education, which is normally free, into community, excuse me, community colleges. And even though community colleges have non-credit or they have very low costs, it's still prohibit, sometimes the costs are prohibitive for our students. So again, we have some interesting discussions here. This one, an online course to introduce workforce preparation activities. Again, what they would do, a lot of times they were commenting on a previous, sorry, our previous posts, but this one, I guess it started in 2018 and people are still talking about it. So I wanna move on civics education and citizenship. This one is important to me. Again, I'm the moderator. I'm the one who, I have been posting most of the information, but the big topic of discussion right now in our group is about the upcoming or the proposed redesign of the citizenship test. I posted a really pro redesign article from Lynn Weintrop. We had a very positive comment on that. And then Bill Bliss basically posted a critique of the proposed redesign. And I added information here about the barrier or the natural test redesign that happened yesterday. That was one of the online webinars from USCIS. So today, after I'm done with TDLS, I'm gonna post an update to it. Plus I'm going to USCIS is gonna be sending out those slides. So I'm gonna be posting that too. Also, we have information in here about women's history month, some of the resources that I posted for that. Some people have been commenting to me offline. I would like them to comment online, but we had some for African-American History Month. I have, I'm gonna, we have a really vibrant community on corrections. And I wanna do a shout out, just write this very second to Koei because Koei is really a leader in corrections education. I wanna see, I see there's some comments in the chat. Oh, yes. Ken, Peggul, are you online? Do you have access to a microphone? Hi, Jennifer, it's Ken. Pegg, I'm gonna flip over to the numer, is it the math numeracy one? Okay, so, you know, I hated math when I was in school. If my teachers had access to this, I would probably be much farther in my career and I'd be much more math positive. They put up some amazing things. So what's the webinar you're gonna be talking about? If you squall back up because I'm actually working together with Brooke. Okay, great. So we will be leading, co-leading a discussion. I forget the exact date in April. I want to say April 16th, but I could be off a little bit about financial literacy in adult education math programs. Oh my God, that's gonna be so good. Oh, we need that so much. And that's so appropriate for people. Think about financial literacy, especially around tax time. Exactly. It's relevant for English language learners as well as for ABEHSE students too. So it will be really great. And we would love big participation, Jennifer. So if you have a chance and log on at that week, I would appreciate it. And I personally invite anyone who is on this session to log on to Lynx Financial Literacy mid-April and please engage in our discussion. Okay, so I want to point out to something, like there's the major groups, like there's the major numeracy, sorry, there's the major math and numeracy, but there's also micro groups. And I just want to flip over to those micro groups for a second, okay? If I can, where's my profile? Oh, I'm in the wrong place. Okay, here I am. So they have these, you know what, this is too big for people to see accurately. So I'm going to make it smaller, try to find where I'm trying to go and then try to make it bigger. Okay, so is it going to be in the math numeracy form or is it going to be in one of the micro groups about, let's see if I can find the micro groups? I'm not sure, Jennifer. So give me a second and let me just double check. Okay, great. If I even have that drilled down information. Yeah, so that is a really, because they do have, okay, and now I'm going to be clicking over to all events. I'm not seeing, oh, they haven't posted, oh, it might be in career pathways. See, understanding financial literacy for adult learners. That might be it. Okay. But you would think. Yeah, because I don't recognize Chrissy as a moderator. Right. Brooke and I are moderators. Okay, and then here are some of the micro groups and the financial literacy one is right here. This is the one right here, but it seems to be an old group. So I bet you're right. And they're going to be doing it in the math, the numeracy one. Yeah, in the math numeracy one. Give me another second. I'm going to turn my camera off and my microphone. I'll come back on. I won't interrupt, but I'll come back on. No, please, please come back on and tell me what's going on, okay? Okay. Yeah, OTAN has presented a lot in the integrating technology group. And so they've had, this group has sponsored several talks by OTAN subject matter experts. Here's a really interesting discussion about 21st century math. And I believe they're using, this one is about related to using specific devices to, oh, the Desmos classroom activities. So anyway, enough about that. I would love to come back to links. Oh, I do want to show this new form. This one is diversity, equity and inclusion. Again, they're talking about intersectionality. So intersectionality is, people think about, oh, it's personal, we don't want to talk about it. But the thing is, is that personal is political, political is personal. It does relate to how we can see, we can see problems, we can basically address them and we can basically make this our classrooms, a community of welcome for everyone. So anyway, this is really interesting in the discussion of intersectionality is the understanding that it's not enough to view the parts of identity, but to see all the ways that they interact. So I'm really expecting some really major exciting things out of this group from the diverse, sorry, from the diversity, equity and inclusion group. Let me see, anything else? Anybody else want to see any of the questions? Okay, also, we have split, go ahead. Excuse me, just before you leave here, I found the email specifically, it says today asynchronous discussion in 17 and 18, financial literacy. That's all the more drill down that I have, whether it's under math and numeracy or whether it's under career pathways. I really think it's under math and numeracy because it's part of the adult numeracy network, which is a subcommittee of COA. Oh, excellent. And since Brooke is there as a moderator for that math and literacy strand overall, I imagine that's where this will be too. Okay, Peg, just a couple more questions for you. I'm really glad that you are. What kind of, okay, what do you teach now? Now, I am not in the classroom anymore. I direct an entire department. Yay, what do you do? I direct adult education programs, free and non-credit title two, a lot of others, ABE, HSE, ESL, IET, IELCE, other career training programs, which is to employment success for out-of-school foster youth. Wow. They are mostly my programs. And then it kind of slides a little bit, depending on what available funding is. Okay, so what institution do you do this for? I work for Mercer County Community College in Trent, New Jersey. Okay, excellent. Thank you. Welcome. It might be warmer there than it is here now. Probably is, but not by much. Okay, great. It's maybe 46 today, but I know you all have some snow on the ground. Yes. You took our snow. Just a little bit. We'll send it back. It's not a problem. No, no, thank you. Okay, so anyway, I am really excited. Really looking forward to hear that. And please, I think my Chloe slide is coming up really quick. So let me go back and I would love it if you would like to share about CoEB. So one second. Okay, it might be the next one. Oh, TESOL is next. And then CoEB is coming up in like two slides, okay? Teaching English, TESOL, TESOL International Association formerly the teachers of English to speakers of other languages. So they had the resources to advance expertise in English language teaching. They have a new initiative, Six Principles for Excellence in English and Language Teaching that I'm gonna demonstrate. This is their website, TESOL.org. And of course, there's the YouTube channel, TESOL INC, which they do post many of their webinars up there. So let's take a look at TESOL.org. Again, I need to do a new share. And where are we? Okay, accept. So here, I mean, I have not basically stepped in behind the paywall. It's asking me to join TESOL, but I just wanna show you what's available right now before I actually start going into some of the forums. So we have, welcome to the new TESOL website and they really, really did update it. They usually have a really good, what is that called? Oh, great. Now I've lost my English. A new slide that basically shows the latest stories up here. So they're basically talking about the new TESOL convention that's coming up just in a week or two up in Portland. And I hope I was thinking to go to that, but I don't know, I'm not, I don't think I'm gonna travel to Portland this year, but they also, TESOL also has an option where they're doing an online forum, the, I think two weekends, like the April the third and April the fourth. So some of the presentations will be repeated and I can enjoy it from the comfort of my own home. Of course, they have the press going down. They have information about other worldwide events. So you can keep on scrolling and there's the information at the very bottom. So you're looking at this. Oh, wait a minute. Did I just see a picture of Susan Gehr from TESOL? Yay, so she has really gone and done some great things. So anyway, hi Susan. I think she presented on Wakelit for TDLS today. They have information here about careers and a lot of people come to TESOL or adult education after jobs in K-12 or maybe for instance, I came to TESOL after working in Silicon Valley for 20 years. Fortune, I was able to basically leverage my tech experience to go into adult education. They have information there about professional development and advocacy and last year, I was able to travel to Washington, DC to participate in the TESOL Ledge Day. We were worried where we went to meet our legislators and talk about certain legislation that we wanted to pass. However, when I got there, my senators and my representatives were involved with the January 6th committee hearings. And a lot of people, especially from California were not doing in-person meetings. They wanted to do meetings by Zoom. So when people were going up to Capitol Hill, they, and it was raining so terribly, I went to a bookstore instead. And then I met with my representatives when I went back to California online and it was a very fruitful discussion. However, one of the really great things about going to TESOL Advocacy Day is I was able to meet Dominic from Akte. So I was able to meet Mr. Akte in person and talk about adult education and English and also the, we were trying to, we were thinking about the USCIS revision that was coming up. I want to take you now behind the paywall. So, oh, if you want to join TESOL, if you want to become a member, there's different levels of being a member. The professional membership is 105. They do have things for lower levels, for new professionals, et cetera, et cetera. So they really try to give people an opportunity to come in and participate at the level they feel comfortable in. But now I'm going to log in, hopefully. Please remember me. So now, when we take a look at this, we're going to be seeing something a little bit different. I'm going to go to, I'm going to want to go into the, sorry, I think I want to go to the Abiscusi Action. Actually, I want to go to my TESOL. What am I talking about? Anyway, so, sorry, let me step back. So here, TESOL provides some really great resources about advocacy. Again, oh, they just put up this date that they're going to have the summit, again, the advocacy summit again. They always have information here about taking action, not only for teachers, but also how to make your, how to get your students involved in it. So let me, I'm trying to find my TESOL. And of course, when I wanted, when I was doing it today, oh, here we go, TESOL Global Community. That's where I wanted to go. So this is where I would basically get involved with information like, okay, I know about the conferences that are coming up. This was what was really interesting here about, this one was a webinar, about 60-second recording audio and video. And so people now don't think anything of it. They're uploading things from TikTok or to YouTube. But this person was doing this. This is actually, you can play this webinar. And this person is doing it to look at student responses. So it was a really, really interesting video. I was glad that I watched it. Also here is somebody who is very, very, very active on links. Susan Finn-Miller, she's basically working in the English, English acquisition forum. And she's basically cross posting some information about the webinar that we had on links about doing writing and teacher learners paragraphs. And already in adult education, we're seeing things that have been written by chatbots that are coming through and trying to be passed off as student work. So how do we encourage our students to basically pursue the information that they wanna learn how to write? They wanna have that skills that can't simply rely on a chatbot or Google translate. So what I always tell my students is the person who does the writing about the project is the person who is the most identified with the project and the person who usually gets the promotion at work. So there's all sorts of TESL events that are not available unless you're a member. So again, really, really rich place to go to events. Again, here's more information about events that are coming up. Again, they have a great calendar, communities. I belong to all sorts of communities. Again, here's adult education. I did a lot with COVID-19 resources because I was doing a lot with online learning. I'm very interested in immigration and refugees concerns and social responsibility and TESL advocacy. This is where I was pulling out a lot of information about the upcoming citizenship test revision. And of course there's working groups and E groups and all sorts of things. And you can post messages in the different forums and things like that. I'm gonna step back into my, step back into my slide. Oh, does anybody have any questions about TESL before I continue? No? One thing that I wanted to share from TESL that is very new and I'm not, I just learned about it the other day and I really need to dig into it, but I think it will be helpful for adult educators to bring rigor to our profession is the six principles. And this is about the foundation for excellence in English language learning. So this one is, of course, we gotta know our learners, okay? So especially if you're able to make personal connections, inform personal connections with students and their cultures, you're gonna have a much more successful classroom. Number two, again, let's see, we're going to basically trying to talk about expectations. So one of the things when I, as I started getting past five years, especially teaching literacy, I basically started to lower my expectations for some of my students to make them feel more comfortable. That did not help them. That basically fostered ossification of their language skills. So saying that you need to, you have to have some expectations for success is really, really super important. So talking about high quality lessons for language development. So I cannot tell you how many times people, I've seen especially substitutes come in and basically pass off K-12 material like for first or second graders onto a literacy level classroom. It's inappropriate. Do they really need to know about baby animal names? I don't think so. But you need to basically attach information to that our language appropriate, language literacy appropriate, but also appropriate to adult life skills and the adult responsibilities. Let's continue on. We're going to go on to number four. And we need to adapt lesson delivery as needed. It was really interesting to move from classroom, the next day we're teaching online in Zoom. It was difficult for students to take that information on. There was a real steep level of adaptation, but just handing out worksheets or the teacher doing the worksheet themselves and demonstrating it to the students, it really created a lot of passivity. So the thing is, is that we had to basically actually teach our students how to use some of those Zoom tools or some of the Zoom tools or record videos on themselves on their cell phones to give them active response. So again, that was really, really important. And I saw this particularly in my citizenship class where instead of basically asking students to ask and answer things like showing them scripts and actually having them read off the script, we actually had to, a lot of times we were not using scripts and it became a much more authentic interview experience because we had to do a lot of things off script and without paper. So that was really helpful. And that informed my subsequent teaching when we came back into the classroom. Number five, we have to monitor and assess student language development. Our students in California have to take COSIS tests. They're really eager to see how they did on those tests and you think, oh, they really don't need to know, it doesn't, this is not a high stakes test. Again, it's a way to set expectations and to show students how they can progress and that the goals that they ultimately have are accessible. And number six, we're talking about, oops, so number six. Oh, this is gonna be coming up. Okay, so let's see. And here, oh, here's number six. Oh, this is number one, engagement and collaboration with a community of practice. So that's really, really important. There's some products that support this. I will leave you to, so there's some books and everything like that. So I will step away and now I'm gonna go take you into the katesel, the katesel form. So any questions about katesel before I continue on? Okay, does anybody belong to katesel or is anybody planning to go to the katesel conference? I'm thinking about going in there online. Really, I'd love to go, but I'm a little leery about traveling on airplanes right now. Every one of our teachers who have traveled recently, when they've come back, they've had COVID. So even though, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hard to hear, that's hard to hear. So, but- I remember katesel, which I love. It's a great organization in California. Yeah, I do love katesel. I do love their conventions. It was really nice in Pasadena. Wow, that was great. But I came back with COVID. Oh, come on. And I was fully inoculated. So I don't know how that happened, but I was wearing a mask most of the time. Anyway, katesel, it was founded in 1969, one of the oldest affiliates of katesel. And they have a great YouTube channel. I'm going to, and no, I wanna say that they have a lot of regional chapters. I think about 10. And, but the problem is with the regional chapters, they maintain independent websites or Facebook sites. One of the problems is like, I wish they would post a page, at least on katesel, where you can basically click those and see what's happening. But because it's an organization that runs on volunteers, sometimes people maintain the website, some people maintain the Facebook page, et cetera, et cetera. So you have that kind of thing. We'd love to see if it could be standardized a little bit. So anyway, let's go on to katesel. Let's see, new share. So I hope we're all, are we all members katesel, everybody? Have you joined or not? Yeah, the majority of the people in here are. Okay, well, let me convince you why to join, okay? So again, I always say to the people who run the katesel website, it's like, hey, you go to this website, you have no idea what it's about. I want to see adult, I want to see adult teachers with adult students doing English activities. So anyway, so on the front, of course, there's a lot of events that are coming up. Usually you do need to be a member to join some of these events. So this is the basic paywall on the front. They have information about membership or join or renew. Let's see how much it is. $75 for a year, $130 for two years. I think that also includes your membership to your regional group. They have blogs and newsletters. Again, if you want to get access to some of the later journals, you're gonna have to join, but there are some really, oh, let's see. Oh, they do have some of the PDFs of the newer things. Okay, that's good. Take a look at some of the journal articles have been very, very interesting. So this one, I'm gonna, looks like they have some DEI stuff that's coming on. Resources, we have advocacy and so racial and social injustice during the Black Lives Matters movement. So I'm going to log in and here, I'm not gonna spend that much time on it because a lot of us, it seems that we're on and we're already members, but here one of the most important things are is we have the message boards. And on the message boards, message boards update, update, update could be that my connection is a little bit slow. Okay, here we go. So here are some updates here, we're gonna talk, oh, here we have a lot of the updates from the chapter. So that's really, really good to hear to see what's gonna happen. So that's gonna take away some of the concerns that I had about the regional boards. This is a very, very, we have the pronunciation and the material writers interest group is really good. Also the technology group is good. I have to get involved with the refugee interest group. Bill Bliss, I believe sponsored or posted information about his concerns about the test revision and also there's things in here about refugee crisis. So anyway, the boards are really, really interesting I find a lot of stuff that I bring back to my own teachers about that, but I've forgotten about the chapter stuff. The job bank is really good in case you, because a lot of our jobs for ESL and adult education, you look at adjoin or you can look at CC registry, but the thing is that if you wanna find other jobs, the job board here at Cateisa is really, really good. So they have, as you can see that they have information in there from outside the United States. Oh, and also they carry things about from nonprofits. So that's really, really good to hear. We have also the advocacy, oh no, we already have that. There was one other thing I wanted to show. This one is interesting to see who our members are and considered if people might consider running for membership themselves in some of these interest boards. Does anybody, sorry, does anybody have anything they wanna add about the Cateisel, about Cateisel? Yeah, I love Cateisel because they're all, they're on it. When they sent us home for, during the pandemic, what was it, March 15, 2020? Yeah. March 23rd, 2020, they had Zoom trainings on how to teach on Zoom. Yeah. That whole weekend, I was spreading for my students, how are they gonna learn? I'm gonna lose them. And then, you know, Cateisel was right there picking it up and I am just, I have so much appreciation for that organization, you know? Yeah, and especially they brought, Cateisel brought over a lot of people from OTAN, a lot of people who are involved with OTAN, the subject matter experts, they're also involved with Cateisel. So there was, in fact, the current president is an employee of OTAN, but there was a lot of cross-pollinization where I think Cateisel really shines is that they bring in those special interest groups. So for instance, Marsha-Chan has done so much on pronunciation. So there's been so much on the materials writers and things like that. So really, really great information informed by civics content on Cateisel. So I cannot, love them, absolutely love them. I mean, I made it so much. I signed up for, you know, the maximum amount of years, you know, to be a member because I realized that this, they really care about my students and they care about me as a teacher. And I just, you know, that's something, it's worth its weight in gold. Yeah, and they're really interested in fostering the profession too. So one second, can we do a quick time check? Where are we on the time? It's 10 minutes to noon. 11, 12. And then when does this stop? 12. 12, okay, great. That's what I have. I, okay. Okay, great. So I'm moving on to Koeb. Love Koeb. Their webinars are awesome. So Cateisel, they don't post everything to their YouTube channel. They keep, oh, that's what I wanna show you. One second on the Cateisel stuff. The coding. No, I need to go back to Cateisel. Let's see. I wanna go back to Cateisel because their webinars, they don't post all their webinars online. But they do. Oh no, I'm not gonna be able to find it. Is this the engagement project committee's resources, file archive? Maybe that's it. Okay, sorry. I'm not gonna be able to find it in time, but they post recordings of their webinars internally. They do not post everything externally. So please, sorry I got flustered and I can't show you the recording, where they make recordings of their webinars. Very, very important. Marcia Chan does post some of the pronunciation webinars on her own YouTube channel pronunciation doctor. If you wanna see the other information from the Cateisel webinars, please go and dig a little bit deeper into the resources than I just did, okay? Let's go to Koeb. Koeb is an absolutely wonderful group, especially they really address A-B-A-S-E-E-S-L, Family Literacy, Skills Development, Workforce and Development. And they do a tremendous job on corrections where not many people wanna touch corrections, but they do a lot of things with the correction system around literacy and workforce and then also adult basic skills have helped many people get their high school equivalency degrees. So please take a look at Koeb and especially some of their webinars on them and their convention is coming up and it's gonna be in Georgia. So I wanna do a quick look over to Koeb one second. Let me go share. Koeb.org, here we are. They're gonna do their higher level. They have a really good news resource. Their advocates, their new podcast is really, really good. And then behind every employer because they're talking about a lot of times you're thinking like, hey, I want a job. What is the employer thinking? How can I get access to that? So getting into the mind of the employer is really gonna help some of our adult learners get that job that they want and truly deserve to have. So take a look at that. Lots of things in there about digital equity. Again, the corrections seminar symposium is coming up. They don't really have a payroll per se like they do at Catecil but they do have a lot of initiatives that you really need to dig down on. The Koeb Journal has a lot of the free PDFs. So if you dig into their Koeb Journal you can see some of their old PDFs of some of their older issues. They are at the forefront of basically setting the pattern for our legislative days and basically taking action. And so I can't recommend them enough. I really need to, I think I really need to move on to our next one and I hate to give Koeb a short shift. Peg, did you want to say anything more about Koeb? Yeah. Sorry, I couldn't unmute for a minute. But I mean, Koeb, like you said, Jennifer it's the premier organization for adult education in the country. And it offers a lot of free webinars, professional developments. And I'm not just talking about the annual conference either but Jeff Abramovic who does, I think he chairs the corrections section. Yes, he does. He is outstanding. Aaron is doing the avocast. Anson and Jeffrey are doing the every employer podcast on there. I was in the inaugural group of the state adult education advocates. We're currently, I think, going on our fourth cohort of state advocates now. So it's a big group. It's a cohesive group. It is extremely, extremely professionally run. They offer the most outstanding webinars, speakers, everything. They work tirelessly to bring together the leading voices of adult education and those other stakeholders who are important to our field. Yeah, a lot of nonprofits. What I appreciate about Koeb as opposed to T-cell, T-cell is really oriented a lot of times to university or higher education or K-12 people. So constantly I'm looking, when I'm looking at T-cell stuff, I'm basically doing the translation in my head for adult education. I feel so much more comfortable at Koeb conferences because I know we are only talking, we're adults in the room, there are adults in our minds so adults in our hearts. And the reason why is because we really take seriously the adult as the responsible person taking care of the family. So if the adult is successful, the children will be successful too. So... That's a great point, Jennifer. We have a question here from the... Actually, it's not a question, Jennifer. I'd wanna also reinforce Koeb's work as well. Everybody to remember anybody who's in California. If you're a member of CCAE, you're automatically a member of Koeb. So we understand that they're the national organization. They do things across the United States. So that's an important thing to remember as well. Just wanted to share that. Oh, yes, thank you so much. And in fact, wait a minute. Oh, hopefully I'm in the right... I hope I'm in the right... Oh, wait a minute. Koeb, please. Okay, CCAE. So let me file... Oops, sorry. I need to... Share. Okay, share. Yes, sorry. Stop here. Share again. No, just to your slide. There we are, there we are. Okay, so CCAE, our conference is coming up April 14th, 15th. I just to put in two proposals. I was looking everywhere about Ledge Day for 2023. I haven't seen it. That's why I'm going to the conference. I'm really interested in it. But Koeb, sorry, CCAE is the Koeb affiliate and they are basically doing our leadership in California for adult education. And they also have another associate group for administrations, adult education administrators. So really looking forward to this conference. Does anybody want to say anything about the conference? Where is it going to be? Oakland. Oakland. Yeah, Oakland. And actually Ledge Day is going to be virtual. It's going to be on March 21st. Okay, thank you so much. I think I saw that they had a training for that, November the 24th, but the video is up on VMO. And it hasn't, I haven't been able to access it yet, but when I do, I'll put out information about that. Also, Peg Gould just said something that our adult learners can be, can join Koeb free. And CCAE really encourages adult programs or adult teachers to bring their adult learners to this CCAE conference. So, and the reason why that's important is because, hey, where are we going to recruit the next generation of adult educators? It should be from our students. It would be really, really great to see that. So anyway, looking forward to that, I think I have maybe a minute left. I wanted to talk about some other initiatives. All in is, they've just put together a consortium. It's like a super group of adult literacy groups. They're basically trying to respond to the Barbara Bush National Action Plan for Literacy. So that's really good to see. American English at State is a massive website, full of information. It was initially oriented towards teachers of English outside the United States, but they have some really good information about teaching adult learners inside the United States. Take a look at their YouTube channel and then California Adult Training, they basically have the training schedule for CalProCASA's OTAN and CAEP. Q is computer using educators and Netta, the head of OTAN, talked about how Q is normally associated with K-12 computer users. She says, hey, adult education needs a foot in that door and ISTE is the International Society for Technology and Education. They have a really, really good conference too. If you wanna dig a little bit deeper and thank you so much.