 Okay, let's move on to another pretty young agenda, which is the corrections to March 16th. Next. So that was December 4th. I have. Oh, you go down your steps, right? Yeah, um, so... I wonder if there's more. I don't, I, yeah, but didn't know it's fine. It's just, um, the difference between the four medics and yours are one and the same. Alright, so number four. Corrections to March 16th. Let's see. Anyone who's like Sydney? No? Okay. So we need a motion to accept the March 16th. So we'll move that. We need a second. All favor, raise your hand. They say aye. Okay. Anyone oppose? They say aye. Okay. Alright, motion passes. Number two. The April 20th. 2020, the agenda changes. I have one. The date? The date. Stephanie brought that up earlier. Yep, changing the date. Fix the date. And then I am going to add to new business item D as in dog executive team. So for you all, uh, 14. Well, no, it's 13. No. Yeah, it's 14. Oh, 14. 14. Sure, so did you commit before? Oh, okay. So I was just running it. Converted. They're usually running it to everybody else. Right? I know. Kind of got a new group. Got four. Okay. Okay. One. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And next on the agenda is our council update. Absolutely. Let us know in advance that you're very much on. Excuse. We use CEP. He didn't come or go for whatever. Okay. Yes. The internship project presentation. Here. So we will hold that. It's here. We can go on to project update and shop art. And we had a list from the LPC of like, what, 10, 12 boxes, 10 or 12 boxes. And we chose seven plus the two that we were already doing to the level of giving my notes on this since I wrote them all up and down. We chose seven, which include the two that we committed to last year. We have three left over from their list that were not on the urgent list, and we can put those for next year. And there were two that were on their urgent list, which we're already thinking of. So success. But we have Clover Basin in Milano, South Florida, just south of Willow Park, Willow Park Park. Also on South Florida, just south of Nelson. Highway 119 in Slatt Drive, up by the San San Marcos. Renaissance and Naples, South Florida with Clover Basin, which is one of the ones we committed to last year. It was one that was already primed, and it wasn't a good, it had been a good location for the power, 100 hours of power. So we said we would do that one next year, this year now. And the one that's already painted into mushrooms that we're going to rethink because it was accidentally sealed before she was done there. Come on now, and you can just see it. I'm going to eat your nipa. So most of these are the southwest part of the city, which is Sydney. Sydney. Sydney. There's one, the one out by San San Marcos, obviously is in the east, but that's just the ones that came up on the list. And frankly, most of the boxes in town are in the southwest. So that's it. We're ready to go as soon as we get the art. None of this is dilly-dallying this year. So the question is, when should the call come? Call has not come out because this is a little off topic, but I'm hoping that the program assistant will be spearheading this project. So we're going to keep each other still a little bit, but not too long. And theme at it, we decided. We decided against having a theme because it's too restrictive. Just as we want the artists to do what they do. If we said rainbows, then we had seven more boxes of rainbows all the southwest is too much. And then you can bang it up a lot and say seasons, but it's just a springtime of the Rockies. And just a reminder, of course, participants from last year with the exception of the mushrooms are exempt from this time around. I thought it was only really, I thought it was just if you've done it two times or more, it's one time. The commission decided, if you participated in 2022, you have to sit for one year. So you cannot participate in 2023. And then you can reapply with something new. So that just makes it so artists aren't participating back to back to back to back. Right, right. That makes sense. And I can't remember when that decision was made. Yeah, yeah, I was here. What is the exception of the mushroom? OK, she painted the mushrooms, which was the most popular one last year. And before she was done, they sealed it. It was accidentally sealed. So we're going to reprimand and have it repaint in the same place. It is a really cool box. Yeah, yeah, it's a good box. It's a great location and everything. Yes. And the artist was extremely upset. I don't think the contractor was very apologetic and is financially compensating by the fixing of the box. They're spoken to for sure. Wellings and the repeating specialist on the site here about the best way to go about it because of the question of, if we had a sandblast in it, which, yeah, and he said no. So Wolf Party said that the primer that we used should actually go on top of the marine coating and seal that in, and then new acrylic and then new sealant. So I'm going to make this a few box days. Yeah, it'll be very rare, but it should be just fine. So. And did you, like, a chance here to think about the box on piece? But it sounds like one of our boxes was removed without us being told, which is part of the contract that, you know, our contract with all of these artists and these products is we pay for the work. It goes in and when the box retires or something happens, they can remove it. Well, it's hard to be a part of the company. Yeah. The art of the company help you see. How we see it. Yeah, they've been clearly replaced it. Yeah, because it's gone. Yeah, OK. So it was the one of the minor quarter finalists, 9th and Pace, just sell them, just north of 9th and Pace. Yeah, I like that one. Yeah. How nice to be. Yeah, without finding out, but it's right down there all the time. Yeah, it'll cost another minute. I knew it. Yeah, it's a piece of my mind. 9th and Pace, yeah. So maybe we can show it was that for the next year. Yeah, the other one I passed today, and I just have to say it is pretty next to Costco. When you're turning in on that southwest corner, there's a real good one right there. But we're already pretty full. Yeah, yes. Also, I used to think that there were a lot of Pace that were painted, but now there's like two or three if you go far and often. So we might look Pace too. We have a discussion in the shop. Cool, let's move on to the 9th, we might get on my project. See you. Yeah. OK, so we have the social media working all done. I think they just need to be approved and posted. And they'll be posted throughout. I think it's starting sometime this week or next week. And then kind of help them to know what's in case. We also have a postcard ready to send out. Joey from the city, my meeting, said it might be a little bit late. She sent those out just based on the USGS. That might be a little bit weird, but then we're also talking with the center to give a home paint day in the 19th of May to collaborate with them. We kind of have that in just a little bit of that. So we'll separate that in just a moment. She said, can you sit there and say what you think? Yeah, we're fine. Yeah, and after talking to the artist, he seems to think that there's going to be more than enough paint spots for even if they, I mean, it would take a lot of you to sign up and fill that whole Saturday. But how exciting to have them participate. So, right. Okay. Main 19th. Main 19th? Yeah, it's Friday. Yeah, we're talking about Saturday. Right, it's the 20th. 20th. Okay. And with that, before we continue on to the discussion, I'll make sure that I have this picture down. I'm sorry. How do I share this? Share. I know, right? I'm going to throw it on. All right. Stephanie, can you see that? I think you can see that. Okay, fantastic. So, without further ado. I can. Yeah. Yeah. This is Pat. He's not live. Okay. So, he's not live. This is pre-recorded. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Hey, how is everybody today? I wanted this to say hello and let everyone know what started to be there. I wish I could be in attendance. We're making videos today based on a commitment that I had known to be to be able to meet the CB at the 40th anniversary of Make-A-Wish, the celebration of their organization. I had a very unique opportunity on behalf of a lot of airlines in regards to being live and donating the piece. There would be a really special piece that would impact a lot of kids' lives that have been needed that are truly ill with regards to their organization. So, thought of you not only something important, but also I'd like to create this video. So, I'm sorry, Stephanie. I don't know how to facilitate it. So, you can hear it and see it. I don't know how to do that. I'm afraid you just have to maybe take a break for 15 minutes. It's about 15 minutes long. And then after the video is done, we'll have a discussion about the hard work and we'll rope you back into that. But I don't know how to make the sound in the room and also through the... Oh, on the video, yeah. But I will send it to you. I'll send you the MP4 as well. So, immediately or maybe after the meeting so you can view it. Watch it. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Did everybody hear what he was saying about the regard? So, he is tonight doing the live painting for the Make a Wish Foundation that's turning 40. So, that's why he can't be here. So, thought of you not only something important, but also special to me in this video. So, everyone felt like they were all connected on the project. One, I also expressed our gratitude, our excitement. We're getting really close to the timeline so that's exciting. As well as we're really excited that the design is in and we try to go best on a lot of levels with taking feedback from the community and it's also kind of direct a lot of stuff where we're going to what this exciting community project is going to be based on. So, Audrey and I are here. She's going to write lots of questions and I'm going to do my best to answer any questions you guys might have. Oh, great. I'm going to pause it for a minute and we'll see if I can... I might be stretching outside of my zone. But I'm going to try and see... Oh, I'm going to sit down if I can do this. Do you have time to do that? I'm going to try and see if I can pull up the image at the same time as he's talking. I know. Watch out. I'm getting fancy. Here we go. Right at all. It's so huge. I'm just going to pull that forward. Can you share some of the aims and design element and why does your creativity work great? Yeah, I'm going to add some notes under the reference as well because there's a lot going into the community aid especially that we had. I already went on to all a lot of people that you provided. So, in regards to design elements and the themes that we're working with incorporating is based on the questions what we try to do is really get a lot of community feedback on the project and have a few questions when we answer to try to really gather as much as we could to try the direction and also incorporate it as much as we could. So, in an imaginative sense one of the questions is where would this tunnel take you? And a lot of the answers were based on kind of a wonderland through a portal, through a land of wonder and creativity on a journey a place of youthful wonder and appreciation. They already shot a beautiful movie or film, sort of like an Austrian essence and something that relates all that word native tongue Spanish English diverse amounts of different languages. And, you know, with some of the design all of it that we've really been trying to work on is, you know, trying to take beauty to a place with this imagination state of pertaining to kind of including these in the youthful design and also the colors and how that can really like transform hopefully just a couple of minutes of your day for you, not only like for your Buddha or taking you out of the hall or just inspire you on your daily journey. So, um... Can we talk a little bit about that? It's kind of a departure from your current body or older or wider colors. Can you speak to your process of writing any of these things? Absolutely. I think here is trying to with color palettes think about what we worked and utilized in the first round and keeping some of those on the high center areas to produce some of those more vibrant just more bold colors but now we're working in more pastels and stuff that's a little bit more there's something about like the calming energy but yet there's still colorable so they retain their phones retain their activity of how they feel but yet are a little bit more calming and a little bit more rounded in the sense of how they feel in space. So, really the idea is like trying to utilize a transition from like the first year old and creating a new special but also being able to take these color phones and just provide a new beginning a new sense of place but also have a line with some of the stuff of these questions that we're asked so both being what kind of energy do you want to experience with me? Does the Bureau want to communicate with the questions we ask? Some of the answers were movement, safety, directional right right track and sport, odds, wiring, compliment, vocal and national environment and natural environment where a lot of these others focus on the environment tones of the earth, nature really being mindful of how network oriented this way joyful, well-being useful, creative wow so I really try to think about a lot of those points in the process but also I think what's going to happen is there's a good element of how these all kind of play into the overall narrative and also the consistency of how this should be built on a lot of these feelings of well-being, joy, energy and creativity but yet still made the natural atmosphere of the environment kind of hide the nature of the creek that's right there and what not Yeah, I heard one of one of the most human element of what you talked about Well, what I was trying to achieve and what I'm hoping to achieve through these profiles is not through specifically to nationality or a specific type specific ethnicity of a person but how we can encompass and portray energy of the environment The human spirit the human spirit, the essence or I think it's something that you want to focus on is an inclusive way to utilize this piece of art as a canvas and as a whole but yet you really might look like who we all are deep down and it's like our spirit, our aura what we're contributing and also like our energy so it's not an element of like mixing masculine feminine children children energy with elderly older energy, wider energy so it's kind of a combination of profiles and working birds well being that there are these kind of birds right down there in that creek but also just there's something about adding a new wave of animals and nature to this piece and we had you guys some birds the first one kind of just wanted to update that in a different style focusing bringing in just this joy all this happy humility but also like a little body on your path and two birds mixed into the layers of the landscape that both should be fun to paint and are made to call out so tell me to what extent in this design I would say what this does as reflection of the community is something that I've been trying to be both mindful of taking a lot of feedback as well as answering a question from community members when she asked what does the community need to do? Gathering a lot of feedback along with the PPU as part of the feedback and also the question that we really trying to bring into more of this design sequence and as well as the context about peace and its entirety a lot of questions and I think people who have a lot of art and creative people who have a lot of cultural approaches inclusive energetic long monsters which is a city pride but I think those are all overarching but what I felt from painting the first one was just a lot of a very proud and large sense of your writing, your community going on and how we can have art created like that and doing it together is the most important thing so allowing a community to be a part of this the application of the volunteer session on site I think that's where we're really combining all elements of how this truly makes this so important speaking of that we are all excited to get started and I'm going to volunteer sessions every week a little soon so I think we're curious to tell us what you've got can we show up on site to help you paint well I'm excited for those as well I really enjoy initiating this with all the people in the process what we should expect is a lot of paint I will have some slides there where it shows that you don't care about maybe funkier, colorful and the shoes that I'm going to paint on and it's all going to be late next week so you can move from your man but if you'd like your clothes we'll have some clothes as well we'll provide there's no adjustment you don't need skills of painting to participate you may have any favorite brushes or anything like that those are totally welcome otherwise I'll have brushes paint ballers and the supplies you're going to need for your trades or anything else I already know you've provided there hopefully we'll also have some snacks and some other awesome elements to bring a water bottle and have some hydration but I think we should also have drinks there as well and I think it's just one of those things like coming to this we're just here to go fast and have fun and maximize the time we have together so through the four hour session hopefully we'll build for a lot behind the wall and we'll learn to develop friendships and feel pretty good and I'm fortunate to be not only in the community but also a really very fulfilled that we're having something special together and I'm excited to do with everyone and share this project that is not being pulled but it's something that I'm honored to help host and as well as be involved with and create and I think the design is something that is a time to feel and to bring not only a lot of happiness but also a lot of imagination with the journey and hopefully bring just a lot of pride in the community and be able to really evolve and be very grateful and appreciative of the opportunities and thanks so much and I hope this answers a lot but yeah thank you thank you very much for your time I appreciate you allowing me to do this virtually and let's come down yay bye so with that is he gonna sketch out the the lines I mean like draw the things we're supposed to paint good good so he is starting with some of the outlines so anybody who has time on Thursday the 17th 18th he's starting on the 7th he may ask if there are some skilled people who are really interested to do some of that um portal lets will be delivered I'll be you know some of the privacy and stuff is gonna be happening and that's the thing then so that's what it is Wednesday Wednesday then Thursday is the full first day of painting which I imagine will not be a bone rush of lots of people Friday is gonna be big Saturday is gonna be a full day then Sunday will be an afterlune shift so some of these like specialty painting stuff come up I'm gonna send it to you and then anybody who you know that is particularly interested in some of these things in addition of course there is the getting it all put together bringing out the tents bringing out the chairs etc etc some of the people that they are bringing they have some snacking companies who are bringing free snacks and passing them out on the food and drink front will probably do some but not all they have come mental health called well wellspring um company that Pat works very closely with that's coming and putting up a tent at some point and we have a van so when we're you know Dave probably day before we're gonna be packing everything up putting it into the van putting the van in the line of sight for our cameras and things so I can watch it at night on my phone make sure nothing happens to it you're gonna love this basically but it's not marked it's brand new and it's white and it's like this is awesome but it does have the lights so we wanted like have disco I mean cup disco but you know anyway so that's the van we're in and um thank you next late for helping us figure that one out but uh yeah they can't have it wrapped yet and it's just sitting there so it's like we don't have a rupture up yet it's either right at you all or is there something in the city the city the police department was I don't know so anyway so every night we'll put the stuff in we'll take it out we'll put it back in the van we'll drive it over here park it, I'll watch it and I'm gonna so all of those volunteer opportunities are gonna come to you with a lot of information just how to recruit your friends and people who really think they're interested in participating QR codes for them to sign up those kinds of things and then um hopefully again well of course Evan is gonna be point in on a lot of these things so putting people into the sign up genius and all of those kinds of bits and pieces so um yeah it'll be it'll certainly be a if anyone of those high schoolers need community service this is great for that it's nice to learn it in high schools but you can't right now I just hate learning anything yeah um no we're still probably that's good anyway uh I'm seeing brain, melodies, pool, instrument I'll probably go through the art books the honor society honor society finding hours, SCLA sometimes they contact me about putting their own projects which is problematic because everybody tries to ask wanting to do that but the hours is a totally different thing um uh yeah it's great and then put some social media stuff together it's in review right now but um at the very least we'll be posting next door as well the socials we're trying to actually spend money right so discussion about the I don't have one I'm sorry I can't see that one I thought you were silver so maybe today a newspaper edition that comes out like very personally the last one um we have an online newspaper I think it's 5 monthly but they definitely have like a bunch of policy words and all the staff are really super open and cooperative just like having students post-its on those yeah yeah there you go nice what's the two I should have said so um the reason he did two is because he wanted you to see the entire design as well as where the brakes are so so one top two is one side the bottom two is the other side so if you can imagine this is where the mallard was the mallard's going away um so then on this side that's where the edge of the tunnel breaks and then we'll still have those the blue mountains that then come into this and so then on the other side this is where some mountains used to be but this is blue now so it'll break here we'll go back there back this way once you get to this portion it kind of comes out and I think that this is the ocean and then the elk is here I might have I might have them transposed and that the elk is this side and this is where the mallard goes I mean this to say mallard's mallard's leaving the elk mistake and the mountains the blue mountains coming in will be refreshed there is a little bit of like if you love it and you want to move forward then you go vote on it and you have to and you have to accept it and let's go and talk about it that's by all means um is it heard on it's missing the howl I knew that the acceptance because I think it's really lovely accept what? accept the new addition to the 9th and now finding artwork in McDonald's okay anyone second then second and all in favor as you can we say hi all in favor say thank you right we got more subs how many years has it been? I think it was 2018 because it was the first project I've ever done that was round one that was round one okay alright now to the 10th the Flanders project so Flanders is going to be right a long time so this is not the screen I'll reveal all of these days you're all on the screen um still I have been working on the very exciting things called site plans so this is currently the site plan the landscape architect he is lovely his name is Kevin he's a confluent design he's working directly with the artist on navigating what the octagon dimensions actually need to be because of things that are not exciting to you but it's really important ADA compliance, slope for drainage moving irrigation et cetera et cetera so there's good and there's bad to get it to be exactly ADA compliant from both sides we would have to do some ground work so instead um we've worked it so it's about as round and close to the site as it can be with a limited amount of irrigation moves that doesn't make it too expensive and then it ends up being ADA compliant from the one side and doll gone close from the other side so legally legally we're fine but you know it's at the slow capacity I guess however that language works on the other side depending upon what is finally figured out from these sides it may flange a little bit as it comes into the pad but needless to say it'll be ADA compliant so that's what that's looking like and I did not save the images but I should have of the states for concrete which was passed through selection committee and it was looking good so we're going to go forward with that things I don't have yet this still has to be approved by parks still being approved by city concrete guy but then as soon as that is done then I go to bid with citywide for moving, actual moving, interrogation and actual so the artwork though itself is in powder coating and I guess she's receiving it soon so we're cooking with gas I mean we're I mean it'll really get rolling how long is the construction going to be activated after the ground running? I mean the pad should be relatively flush with the piece and I don't recall on the top of my head bottom to top we can hear you so bottom to top bottom to top I can't recall exactly what it is but if my mind serves me or something then there was a specific height that had to happen from the bench to where the first I was going to say 9 so I think from the ground to the bench to the the was over so then bottom to top probably in the zone of 11 or 12 that would be impressive and maybe like the two feet together I mean your patience is going to take the longest concrete will take a day plus curing insulation will be one day oh wow how much does the concrete have to be cured before they do the stamps the stamps I don't know I'm going to have the concrete contract to do the same thing that's out of my wheelhouse as soon as I get this improved you know I'm just in the database but our drop dead deadline was July 1 right here well out of that you did send update to sister cities for their meeting last week and they're chitty chatting about when they would like dedication please talk about it and then let us know so we can say thumbs up they would like it of course when the who's wrong students are here obviously that's August so okay it's not too far away and I think the mayor is going to need to battle so it should be quite the opportunity all very good all right conversation I'd like to say that we've got some great pre-made stamps that are exceeded our expected expectations for the butterflies we're going to stamp them because I want to hurry I yeah depending on where we get if we get to a place where we have time I will find out for what Chuck Meadow in the late of inflation it's under 200 bucks they're three different sizes 16 by 12, 9 by 7 and 7 by 5 I'll have you I'll have you at the Google it took a while I've been looking for a while and then I contacted an artist about doing custom ones and that was just strange and well-brained actually I don't know so anyway I don't know okay good thank you thank you Pam thank you so I did not organize my images today I should have are on the nuke with really well there were some there were some things that were a little frustrating like flying a 1200 almost flying a 1200 pound marble over a Porsche at 10 in the morning having to call the master police officer to run plates to go knock on somebody's door to ask them to do but we did and there is the Porsche so yeah so protection protector he's gone and it works out really well yeah it's lovely oh and Jennifer you were there too thank you Jennifer yeah so it almost well that ends well the crane operator was a total ace he was really good he was really good I could see there but he's like sitting in an office chair on the right and they're on my kitchen right? yeah so the installation we were on day one and thank goodness it was yesterday not today because the woman was really something today some of the works did get spinning a little bit so so anyway so protector came out AJD Mrs. Peace the black bit came out and then the whoopsie daisy we were expecting is of course this limestone piece that has those lovely steel bowl looking bits anyway it's heavy and we couldn't snuggle up that crane any closer to reach this front one so this one like dead in the middle because that's as far as we could go without moving the crane to 287 and that's the state highway so I like my job so I decided to keep it yeah so we had to make a audible on that one but it went down really well the artist he actually works with Madeline Wiener she's a color of marble sculptor she does amazing work anyway he's her great hand and this is really the first piece of this scale that he's ever done it's limestone it's warm it's supple you go and run your hand on it a piece of stone and then that contrast with the metal is really lovely but he was very specific he stood there with his level for a while making sure that this stinker was really what he wanted it to be and at the end of the day the contractor who our art installer they're so good said you know we just I have a washer like we can level it but so we had to I don't know how many times you were there we picked it and placed it yeah three times but the washer did the trick finally he was a little teeny little teeny thing he was free with it but he really was yeah he was particular and I appreciate it so that was fun and then the robot which of course is called processing right this is Jamie Loeffler he's out of Lafayette he brought all of his friends told me that we definitely did not need the crane whoever is on site next time you do this if it's 700 pounds you use the crane so he and his buddies shuffled it off and it was like a little bit differently but he's so funny he's pretty great yeah I don't remember how much he is but he's fun so he'll be good the link of course to the executive director of the firehouse said why couldn't we put him directly in front of the firehouse why don't we have a path and I had to remind her in fact she didn't really know this but Kauffman of course is being all torn up for our project right there's not well there's a tree there but there's not a path there because when I spoke to traffic we had bid out to actually have one board and they said they'd come in that far with demo when they were working on Kauffman so they said you can board it but we're just going to demo it so we didn't buy cause there was art on that so could we get a bunch yeah so on that day we're going to have to we can re-put in tracks and we'll put in another planned feature so then we'll have seven y'all when you go and walk down 4th avenue you're going to like it I saw it earlier too did you? yeah and every single person that walked out to the picture I loved that the place that I went on strikes that was moving hands to your eyes yes so that is day one and then there was miscommunication and an artist wasn't able to make day two so today was day two and it was a little bananas but we got there I did not take as many pictures as I should have so this is looking this is looking east so that's Josh where the pieces of his it's actually a lot striking more striking that it doesn't photograph as well as it looks in person it's fantastic yeah this interesting piece by Gerald Severin is very delicate so the offsetting of this very geometric and very heavy pieces is very lightweight and listening to his process uses different patinas on steel so when you get up to that piece it's very intimate experience with the color versus this extremely harsh acrylic so that's a lot of fun and then spiral he's a fun addition there on the side we did end up finding one steel I mean an executive on one steel plate because I saw the price for the rest gasped a little bit so maybe in time we'll consider buying we'll see if the cost of steel goes down at all so we just roll straight in and as before yeah that's a good question so these other pieces are folded straight into the concrete when the day comes that we take them out we shave the concrete anchor off and backfill it in which is fine it just looks like when there's not sculpture there it you know it looks kind of you know it's not a perfect finish the steel plate when we cast the concrete last year I had them in bed hardware straight in so then you can take a steel plate and hook it straight down and when different artworks come up most of these scale artworks we tack well it straight to that plate it makes it very structurally sound it makes it incredibly difficult for someone to come in and take it you know they really have to work at it and it creates a ruckus it's a security mechanism one that just won't do to the concrete if you have this steel on top it just makes it harder and either way I mean these things in time if you go into St. Stephen's Plaza you can see that the ones that we bolted into to cut them up you know it's not a pretty piece of concrete when it doesn't have artwork on it and it's not a pretty piece of concrete when you have the steel plate sitting there either but the power to remove those plates and store them those things just weigh they weigh a lot so yeah but hopefully now that we're in our cycle there shouldn't be any time that there's not any other time so that's the eastern version and then I don't think I thought a great one looking starting at the end looking down so your dancer and such so there's Mr. Robot the Charlotte sink piece same kind of thing man does it not photograph as awesome as it is of course so I was a little surprised initially that she didn't include color but when you look at the finish on this aluminum it's really green so that was nice Will it get a patina on it did you tell us it's aluminum so it'll stay it'll stay its color as we consider moving forward with our maintenance plans you know having folks walk along there and if some of these get a little bit dirty just distilled water and a soft rag especially Josh Weier's piece on the end he has like a silicone coating on it so it'll actually collect dust and so we'll want to wipe it out gently occasionally or even a feather duster so and then this dancer she's the one that I just did not get a great photo of she's very funny she's very whimsical she's very frontal so you approach her looking more and there she is I am certainly concerned as the wind was blowing today she's dancing she's she's a mover she's delicate and so if someone goes up and starts bending some of these pieces but the artist knows it and it's insured so you know when we get those plaques done put them on and say do not touch do not climb and we do our best and then Ribbit Rodeo will install that artist is going to be here next week and I said fine and then the sad thing so Mr. Snowy Owl he wrote the painter on the block that it installs on and that thing is 750 pounds but two pieces and so the contractor he had to come on the cranes here and he couldn't so then the contractor and I said well you know can you try and fix it and then just come he's come from Loveland just come and we'll see if we can hand move it it's just, somebody was going to get hurt so I you know and the artist was really cheap and he understood but so no snowy owl so fine he did he doesn't have anything to in any ways it's kind of bad form but he doesn't have anything to replace it with and I mean the we probably could have man handled person handled the owl but there was no way to connect the base because of the thing on the bottom there's just and I'm telling you these guys they sat and they looked at it for a while and thought we talked about how the Egyptians did with like plywood and sand to act as ball bearings to like wool and you know it's just giant block right it's 300 pound block and the edges are right even if we could get it to the closest the closest flint to in St. Stephen's you know couldn't get a truck right up to it we had installed everything on four so like row rolling a truck up and just like switching them out from four over what if you were already installed uh you guess the artist of the robot version of Friends yeah friends yeah so it he was he was magnanimous which was great I hate to ruin somebody's day but that's you know great work great work yeah yeah he has a pantry in his studio so I don't know if he it's got like an eyeball it's a pin uh that it's a screw on to you know the situation and so he screws the Bible onto the pin that goes into the block and he must have lifted it he he did it he fixed it but I don't I don't have a I don't have a crane that today to be able to pick it and he said it took a 20 24 hours for the pin to cure with the new epoxy so there's even if you would have come yesterday and had it on site so are we not getting that at all we cancel the contract you got mine we got our family in there oh you never got one before so is that that was going to go the hours going since even it was and so do we have one that's four but we do have that limestone piece there and it is central and it's in the middle and it's all alone so it almost doesn't look like accident it looks intentional but Kimberly McKee with LDDA who's contributing to this project this year was very adamant with their contribution that for that it was their priority so that's what we did we have a back up one we did the back up one on spiral and risk management wasn't fond of Sandy Friedman's circle red circle one because of entrapment for kids oddly enough he had already committed it to Idaho so like I asked were they put it up all or some things so anyway so there it is and then of course Annette Coleman another fun thing so she's playing with scale and she did not deliver it her well learned it and I was like that's really interesting because her scale from your rendering to your actual I mean I knew it was getting taller but this component seemed absolutely huge and he said she went to the structural engineer I was like all that stuff she had to rescale it but this is very different work for her if you recall that she does that those part of the glass mosaic kind of things yeah so anyways this is a from the very south end of Kensington what I don't know after years the picture of the bike path goes like kind of in front of it and then goes east and then there's a playground the street beyond the trucks there on the other side right so metal recycling it's like right back over there it's easy to see very visible from the street yes great so any of the four 50 points and students and students yeah for moments for moments are alright as we are going to end this then I can leave it for everybody Stephanie wasn't able to hear oh and my oh so we can just cut this all together because no one left hey it was a good trial yeah it was good okay so that's Art on Loop 3D so except for next week plaques it's going in front of the museum a little bit further in because risk wants it out of the sun because it's a you get on it so you do the other path yeah she sold it yeah he was included and we said yeah sounds good and she said well sold it do you want to borrow from the new people no maybe she'll do something like that yeah she's not beautiful but she sold it yeah right awesome really? yes we lean into buying the protector marble piece that Jay took to South Dakota this morning do you take that one or do you take a different one? he took that one and the that's what was loving those two other trade-offs South Dakota sculpture festival today so I just I love this piece from Angela and I kind of discussed it back and forth it would be so nice to have this color on a marble piece where would you put it yeah well the safety and justice building is going to be going under overall but that's years that's over that's years from now before it's finished yeah today is certainly an opportunity for a public art project there that said you do not have a piece of marble in the collection and your mission is to reverse the question and what then Jay said he was born in yes he was born in law he would love for it to be here and he also said he would store it for free the furniture I would have to ask I would have to ask he said that you could remember how much you put the value up on our original contract so that would be one of us to move from $12,000 to $16,000 oh that's very nice I had I could read that I think he gave us a piece of marble for me it was very exciting and it was the fact one that he's from Longmont that it is called Protector and so that was part of Justice Center you know Protector and there was a really strong connection I have a question there's that they installed somewhere for a few years until Justice Center is done there's that put in front of the city building they're on for there's a place that they wanted us to put something on on 3rd and Kimbark or on 3rd and 3rd by the entrance to the city building yeah right by the stairs sort of in the middle of the building as I understand it so Cherise would never allow me to put anything I know at the Civic Center once you climb up the stairs like Civic Center is now sound it may not have any additional weight of things that are on people so there's it's down and below not the one I didn't buy but not the one by the parking outside on the street by the steps there's a square spot there I swear this is my number so this piece is now on loan elsewhere we can investigate locations and then if it if you decide to be mindful of the cost for moving things etc we probably want to install it at the same time that we have the crane for moving other things right yeah you can always put something somewhere and then if you change your mind where it wants to where do you prefer it can we put some permanent pieces to the same students where there are really more that's a good question I think that would be a question for LVDA whether I have stability and ask then we aren't always having that two minutes because it hasn't even caught what we do like a big bear is you don't want to make I think it's 16 students who aren't in Philadelphia 16 students who aren't in Philadelphia and you're not just hard on them I'd like to see it a little closer to me but where it wasn't going to come around the border there the other pieces I know that the LVDA has taken out the fountain and I saw that they have larger ideas that actually at some point is really vamping same students but how many years are we talking about so that happens and that's just what we're talking about I don't have any space for what the fountain is the library now is just a giant library I think they were open alright so lovely this is April I have two more months as your president please think of me when you're looking at the robot guy so possibly why that and put it somewhere too as I'm going to see it seven years but I won't get out on the commission I'll see you talk later yeah, I'll invite you to be heard she'll come over here and say bye I'll get a boat okay moving on maintenance reporting okay so when we did our nuts and bolts conversation one of the comments that we received was to go through to go through the maintenance reporting I don't know the tendency to close I hate having okay so there's a link and I sent it to you and I will send it again it's a fancy smart sheet link so when you have your phone or you want me just to print you out a piece of paper and you take the notes when you get back to or you have the ability to do the digital this is the form and the reasoning for filling out the smart sheet is because it is very easy for my Nina and I to turn the pre-excel file CSV file into an excel spreadsheet and then sort by when you say something is poor or if I want to look at there's electrical wires or something like that we can very easily filter and find out the problem children so you have to put in your name so when I am freaking out about why it is we need to go and look at something right away I know who to call in your email just so I get it right and then the artwork title and then there is absolutely everything that we're talking about and each of you at this moment in time have a think about 6 or 7 we'll probably do the shake up again but it doesn't matter how often you go and visit it it doesn't have to be regular and it doesn't matter if you just saw it like a month or two ago and you're buy it and you want to go buy it again that's the whole point of this and I'm looking at because the object changes in time right and so the more reporting that happens you might see something that's you know flanned or a change in color or maybe it's starting to laminate or something and you'll see it again and you're going to notice it's worse or it's the same so doing this as often or as little as you can you know it doesn't have to be regular so then there's the date right and then our intention behind this behind this form is to try and make some of the museum questions that Eileen and I ask when we're looking at objects relevant to you when you're looking at an object and there's not any right or wrong answer right but the difference between it's love and it's in great shape versus it's a dire situation like that's going to help versus that you know it's in great shape or poor shape to try and make it more meaningful to you and then here are some of the issues right it's unstable because you can move it there's standing water right foundation damage you're seeing chunks out of concrete those kinds of things so these are the kinds of things that one would expect for a public art situation surface coating yes I recognize that you're like what in the heck are you talking about Angela but if it's painted or not if it has a surface coating and you're like yes it has to be or it looks one color in all the places and in the spot that it looks a different color like that's a surface issue right and then how is that coating condition if it's different from one place to another place that's not a good thing but again can't determine because you're like I'm not a genius on this front I don't know about paint stuff there's no right or wrong answer potential hazards I mean you're going to trip walking up to it anything that you know electric would be the best thing and then finally we were able to get our friends in IT to allow us to have a field for your notes so that's where you can write me the love note oh my gosh Angela I don't know what we're talking about but I think I see rust how much is that damage and then one to ten how much damage has to notice you can also put in a comment about what the condition is free flow okay the human who I was working with been setting this up to not speak art and I don't speak smart sheets and so we did and then the placker business is really helpful while our team who's been working on that project has already gone through and done the full audit of the entire collection it doesn't mean that it can't go missing so please make that note even though we're in pretty good shape on that and then the condition another field for comments and then the latitude longitude if you can't if you can't it's okay the city is actually outfitting our GIS pretty substantially and in the world of the ITs it actually is going to prove us significantly when it comes to making maps for the website potentially for future putting in you our tour business so we can have very accurate locations that start to public play so if we can collect that information and I just put in one of these links that I use and found a pretty deal couple if you can't create and then the file upload as many pictures as you want typically from someone who's assessing a piece of artwork you start with whatever you can define as the front if it doesn't have a front we just are very thoughtful and looking at the object kind of going from top to bottom and then going around and try but if you can't do that and you're just snapping a couple that's great just as much as you can do spending with object time that you have this is how we're going to get to the bottom of some of that deferred maintenance and prioritize on a budget front is this helpful okay and print it out and mark it up and then if you this is daunting and you just want to send it to me and I'll upload fine but the date piece of it is really helpful nice work okay great so I will resend I will resend the link if you want me to resend your list fine again if you're doing one and you're doing the same one that's great because then we compare and see are you seeing the same things if you don't remember what's on your list but you're buying something and you're like that it doesn't matter if it's on your list the reason we do the list is just over try to capture the whole project okay thank you well you're up again okay so I'm sorry that Miley something must have happened she's that's very unlike her she was definitely planning on being here for two days well so maybe I'll just add that Miley is our undergrad from CU she has been doing I would say severe care job with Cindy's help in the thought project but also just not a ton of oversight she's been independently going through doing the research she ran into a concern of left hand and left hand's compass and then did research into same group and I think she kind of had a wide eye moment of telling the story of that work so we got to have some really good conversations that way but she has uploaded everything to our two or website we have not translation yet and we will not publish publicly until that's done and the only piece of the internship that she was not able to accomplish was actually doing that vocal piece and recording for reading her narrative but aside from that she did a really good job so she has two tours of both campus and one of downtown and so we're on our way the next step of course will be finishing the placards getting the QR codes that then will directly attach to those and then we're going to go into that cycle of testing we're gonna see how it works what is the data that's coming back what is our visitation we'll fix it and we'll get it right and then we'll start working on the rest of the collection so that's the point for test runs on and seeing the results how do you plan to inform the public if they can get out there before the very end well I mean we'll probably do the same kind of launch that we did for the museum so the museum has three women's history latino history and downtown and they are linked on the museum's website so we can do the same thing put it up on the museum's website and regularly it's featured in the newsletter of the museum and adding and it also has a spot on the newsletter but including the URL and I if you imagine that folks who are visiting or who ended up on the site because the URL is on the museum's website will always end up on the air TV well it's really one site but there's various branches and it's not an app it's actually a mobile website so that's kind of brilliant because you don't have to download anything and you don't have to meet your user or you don't have to list that in the other thing so if you're already downtown and you're doing the architecture tour then you might when you open it could stumble across the art public places tour and they're specifically designed at least these ones that if you stumble upon something and you hit the QR code there's not a beginning and an end it's just if you start one place then you can do the tour and the next one but yeah full on marketing communication push and knock on wood if the new program administrator who has conditionally accepted the offer gets through her background all of that stuff then that will be one of the things that that person is going to hit the ground running yep okay well I keep going the scope that AJ Davis is done with the animation he is also working on so it's the city of Longmont and Coors Field and Fiddler's Green so those are his three projects so you're in very nice company the one that he did for us was the first one that he has ever done and he designed our mural first and worked on the animation second and learned a lot about his line work things he should do and should not do so the fox twiddles his nose doesn't click his ear I think he was slightly disappointed in the amount of animation but the flowers blooming is really cool so we are in the middle of the service agreement the service agreement is through Artified which is out of Austria and our funds which you have already approved will get us a 10 year contract it is not in perpetuity so in 10 years we are going to have to revisit this again but I think again breaking the cost of the 10 years down into a month by month and again it's unlimited views so we don't run into that situation or somebody walks up to it it's the QR code and they're like sorry somebody watched it 500 times and they'll watch it and we'll need to paint some little feet on the ground because you have to stand in a perfect spot but it's cute so we are so close on that one and then we'll need to do a dedication for the spoke so maybe start thinking about the timing for that maybe a little bit further away from community painting art block or something second Saturday we just tell them what we want and they visit Jera she's very busy publicizing the heck out of it it's really really good commissioner applications supposedly closes tomorrow there's three of you please reapply generally speaking I don't know what is going on but the city has made a concentrated effort to recruit myself I've talked to lots of people including somebody who applied for our job that drew her application and I said I'll do it so she might we've been trying and people aren't really applying so I don't know what or why that is but right now it's still scheduled for tomorrow if something changes and they play with those dates of when the app will end he said that I will let you know first so then you'll be hearing from us because it personally changes the process again so I think you go through the commission we'll set up a subcommittee we'll re-interview you and other candidates and then we'll be making recommendations there's that that's it for me and then there's new business oh okay did anybody have the opportunity to read the narrative about the the peace in the senior center yes this piece I'm not going to read it to you but generally speaking this piece in the senior center is quite large is really on panel it was put in in 1982 it's a public art program but legally, legally it's public art it's not part of our collection there has been of course in the last couple of years pretty significant turnover not turnover but folks retiring from the city in leadership positions and this is one where the senior center has lived with this for long enough they say that they're a matter of their own time and that this is not terribly reflective of our community and they would like to move it so per public places deaccession relocation guidelines and policy we are going through the process I did send it to the museum collections to be considered by the museum collections advisory board museum collection does not deem this I don't want to speak but not only based on its size but based on the historical narrative of the piece that is not it's just not appropriate yeah not there we go identified as appropriate for recommendation for the collection so it is coming to us for deaccession technically technically according to our public places deaccession guidelines we're supposed to create a task force to investigate holistically and further and then come about it so you've got two options I've provided all of the information that there is about this piece in your packet today and or you can go forward with that there you go sorry the question is since it's technically ours because it's been hanging in public we have a session before we deaccession it also is it just one piece it's three kids I mean it belongs to the city and according to the charter anything that is I could read it to you but basically any artwork that's on display is it wood panels yeah and what happens it goes it goes to the part of the big art store to this guy deaccession go to elsewhere go to Texas I second that all right all right who else can I caution deaccession deaccession I did deaccession deaccession deaccession deaccession deaccession deaccession so that's a really good question they have funds to be able to take it off they have funds to repair the wall and their repair port thank you very much because and then so the next piece I was just going to say is Eileen and I removed boys world your triptych acrylic sandstone through the seasons from the coffin house so it is no longer a taxidermy background it is beautiful it's in good shape it probably needs reframed yeah what what oh wait so the coffin house is under new leadership we hired a photographer to get good images of it because it's beautiful the artist is Angela Bell she is local active painter so we are going to with her approval but actually I don't have to ask her I'm still going to ask her if we can actually reproduce this in vinyl stitch the images together so you can still get to see that lovely through the seasons and move it up a little bit apply the vinyl to the wall so taxidermy can bug all over that not on our canvases and then our canvases are now gone they are in storage in this building right now and if we can offer this to the senior center if you would like on the wall just previously seen or we can find somewhere else for this but this was something that had come up in previous conversations with commissioners so we can look at it we can measure it out if you want to put a task force together to see how it looks that's fine at one point we talked about putting it in the safety and justice center but I think it's really too small for that safety and justice center is undergoing them stuff I think I'm bringing it to the senior center like we know it I mean it isn't I haven't said anything to them because I talked to you first and we do have other things to go up in the library I'm pointing at you Susan, Jonathan I'm a little excited yeah it's good it's going to be a good conversation are you talking about just the three pieces behind it yes so I lead us worked in natural museums before natural history music before and I never worked there and so we were removing it and I just yeah so the little house right there was in my backyard this morning I didn't realize that I left my dog at the foster group yeah so they were stuck in putting it in their house so is someone interested in going and seeing and measuring or the other thing that I can do is I can easily photoshop it in to give you an idea and then you can decide but we don't have to offer this to the senior center unless we're ready the other thing of course is we can always investigate purchasing the apartment let's see in size and see if it's in that hole yeah I'll photoshop it and put it together but right now I will also investigate refraining and that probably would help would we refraining this one piece that's true okay does the vinyl is going to take over the whole wall you know we'll and we had even talked about coming around the corner we also had talked about removing taxidermy and I don't I don't ever say other videos as a sign but we'll just have to talk about that so we will make it the best that it can be again the person who's caring for the house is a rat they're really excited still there was a lot of spider I'm sure okay did you see that did you see that I grabbed it okay so there's that public service recognition week is May 2nd from 6 to 7 30 there's going to be refreshments before city council on the 2nd and so if you are able to get out there and city clerk's office would love to commend you for the work that you do for the city so attend if you can picture take Sean and Mayer so it's going to be good next May 18th is the Thursday that we are going to be doing community mural I can tell you right now I've been installing all that artwork today in the new and a meeting is a lot I really think we should either reschedule for the week before nozzles up against memorial that we get or we just need to cancel 1000 feet we reschedule for the early I understand that's the last one yeah on the 11th other one is just cancelled that might yeah so you said Evan is senior how much you were so I was going to say that's he is kind of crazy nice old students he can be associate right well you are excused you have to show up to the painting deal alright is that where is that going to be 11 the 18th is going to be I mean he wants to paint until dust we would have to leave him and our van and I'm borrowing that from the police department so do we want to reschedule for the 11th that would be my favorite that's a lot raise your hand if you want to reschedule for the 11th okay alright how good is that on and then last thing executive team Stephanie is gone Randy our fearless leader limited Cindy his vice chair technically the main meeting is what we need to do nominations for executive team so we tried to do this organically once before we tried to do nominations before I don't really know just want to throw your hand or we could just have a conversation have everyone do it floating it on your radar we have we have 15 minutes until we're technically done go no she's just not present she's not here for the current moment yeah so yeah it's completely up to you now there is my second yeah we've got a chair alright sweet Stephanie I think she has didn't need to stay on both stay on but I don't know so we should I don't know I know I second there we go we still have time you're right it would be nice well the program assistant is coming up and we do have other guideline changes that we do need to make that maybe a charter change but as long as we have a secretary then it's not the answer I mean I have also taken this job on for the executive advisory board recently so I would like to give up one of those I think the intention was to that the program assistant will be doing a lot of the um maybe we could probably do so we will come back in May and do this formally and I will send out an email but if anybody is interested and wants to wear your hat in the ring or also wants to nominate somebody oh I thought you just did that well you did but without Stephanie being here and saying you won't stay on okay because technically we're going to do your guideline since it's May when you vote them in okay and that my friends we just have one more question it's not quite the end but you have permission for comments right okay you just did that's okay I'd like to be involved in the board okay so you're updating on the museum just yes the decision is not open leadership from the city, tippy tippy top down has been restructuring I think close to COVID there's been a lot of ah-ha moments in the city and if you list the city council like I do there have been new developments in project management and certainly the way that internal and external services is kind of breaking out there's going to be a new assistant city manager which rat maker is in general right now and so I think that holistically the city is looking kind of from a top down you know approach of the way that needs a structure which in the name for the museum director I feel like it can safely say that the museum director had an oversight of it was pretty flat so I think that the museum is looking at a different hierarchy I have requested that our public places still stay directly to the museum director because we worked so much with outside departments that I need someone in that director's circle so that is what I'm going to continue to fight for but I don't really know additionally there are some internal candidates who are interested and also we are looking at a capital campaign for our expansion so there's there's a lot of part-time it's not close yet two questions there he is so there was a Silver Creek leadership committee student that maybe you saw we were watching the city council meetings that they thought they had permission they started painting a mural in the school then they got a cease and desist I noticed had a repaint over the mural and so I think Susie the dog was going to reach out to you because the kid had reached out to her for some reason and so don't be surprised if they don't ask you guys give some sort of recognition of maybe a spot in the city built in somewhere where they can go ahead and paint this mural for that kid's final project it was beautiful according to everybody that saw it he ceased to desist oh the school district yeah it was a really straight the paint permission and then all of a sudden then there was this moment of like we didn't need car walls and he sort of attitude was like and the kid already started painting the thing he got a good portion of it up to then have them turn around and go he had a committee of people helping him put this all together and then all of a sudden it's like oh not like that so then they oh yeah it was like one of these things where you're like oh boy talk about the one hand not the other episode so that might be something that's going to happen to you all to figure out a spot a rare candidate spot would you guys put that there on we just want to be really cautious because we receive these name queries all of the time and we can't possibly accommodate every kid so how is it that we can implement either a policy or a procedure or an application or something along the lines because once we set precedent what somebody's not even a kid right just anyone we set a precedent with someone then we have to be very cautious about what we're sending in the future and also chances are the school district wasn't very happy about this because of maintenance maintenance is a huge issue concern so when and if that comes again I get things that might go wrong all the time without being a gatekeeper but also maintaining that lens of equity all of the time is our responsibility and sometimes that means we're in somebody's sometimes it means lending the recommendation that helps them get through the process to the next piece well what you want to do is guys you're not that guy more safe than this in fact taking that into account don't feel at any point obligated to fix this that really isn't the city's more school district sort of thing to fix could mural be something that could be translated to a shop box because we do have that opening now that may be translated to that box we can get something that we can look at and have it kind of be configured to something like that but I would suggest to your point to start doing that sounds a bit like a school district and it really is the school district's problem I think the reason why they reached out to is because she's in and that was kind of a logical connection but I would really not have any of you feel somewhere I know you all you don't really love art and feel it right here but you don't feel that you have to do this because to the point of me it really is a critical component that we can't forget about they might work for a shop box there's something temporary so it's really an effort to invite it to submit with the understanding that it's a citizen vote or I mean I think you know that's the great thing about being creative people maybe it's an opportunity where the wall where the big panel just came down to the senior center turns into a new opportunity for students to go to a revolving door where there's a mural on a panel that goes up and then goes down we can create those opportunities and then maybe it's something that goes into the future and this is just the catalyst to get it started, something that gives me the goosebumps, right? That's the good stuff, is that sometimes out of problems we come up with ideas. So at my school for many years our library had our contact that contest and they would do this but then people would buy pieces and then it was us that how they managed those pieces and then they were up at the school for a year and then rotated out and the person who ever bought they wouldn't get it for a year but they would be part of the fund reason for the library it could be a point of putting it on this singular sort of thing that moved on and and then you don't feel a lot of beauty today. Have you put an age limit on the shockbox? We have a legally legally limit so legally to go under contract with someone you have to be 18 years old. That said intergovernmental agreements, IGAs the city within their last housekeeping initiative that went through council right before shock got here made it a whole lot easier to think of because once upon a time it was paperwork and council sent agendas and did mayor's signature these kinds of things they made it a whole lot easier but sometimes I think with the IGAs and certainly on the school district again you have the school district folks that are really really activated making sure that you're spreading out those opportunities for people to be able to apply but yes it's much easier to work with the school like Silver Creek and get their arms apartment so that there is an adult who's going for a scheme what's happening but I can work directly with them. Yeah definitely the idea of engaging younger students or just younger people in general sort of like a showcase or a highlight it sort of came to mind when we began discussing the mayoral project that I'm now discussing where the situated mayoral schools keep walking through it but you had to have some opportunity that's really geared towards that would be really exciting. Well Evan and I meet with the low of the center tomorrow so we've never met before so that's going to be brand new bridge so we're building blocks we're building bridges and it's certainly going to be you this happening sorry. Thank you. Please come to the event set for the vision people. Thank you. Yes and the council retreat how was that for you? Well one of those we love your facility and everything one thing I suggested to that might use my classroom today and I have this line here sort of thing that is in the son's handy that literally I never raised my voice anymore at all this kids got speakers everywhere and I just turned this thing on turned off on speaking and it's so so slight that in situations like this where we had a lot of people in here people outside of conversations this would come down right here out speakers and it would just be so nice and it's good for any sort of form that you're doing and have maybe a couple of them because you can have somebody put an audience click theirs on and so and so so I recommend that that was awesome because you know it gets really kind of overwhelming to hear yeah this room we've had these conversations before on this room it's not the best but good well I watched quite a bit of it to glean if you have eight hours I was I was typing and doing contracts or whatever but no it was it was good Harold's presentation is fascinating there's a new form a new thing that's maybe you can sit on them while it's the one where it's got the pillars it's kind of the philosophy of the city and that's kind of something to look at and see where we are so that kind of helps kind of that elevator where the city stands on different things things like that so that's kind of a cool thing for you guys to see especially because you are that connection to the community and it's important for you to kind of be part of that new aspect of it all yeah I will send that along and I'll send the links to the youtube videos I think I broke a couple of them down in the march minutes of some things to watch certainly about the street naming well that was my having it come from the community yeah that whole issue is it's just that you don't mind waiting to tell people as I see it's the nails man that changed names just because I don't live on the street you don't live on the street nobody else doesn't live on the street that's named after somebody like Evans yeah after that it it's wrong that we can fix there's other things like that yeah so I imagine that will probably be something that comes around to us as special as we as we can kind of explore city and be the machine we don't want to honor class members but we don't want to honor somebody who sent somebody off to ask her to go to the children and so just because he didn't pull the trigger he wasn't morally and adequately kind of one of our historic bad guys it was it was a good conversation good links uh could I have a motion to adjourn? just like a right everyone in favor of adjourning out with your hand okay we don't want