 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Ito po ang unang episode ng Usapang KP, Kalayaan sa Pamantasan. Marami nahutayong mga guests na nag-sign up, we're expecting 1,500 plus participants dito po sa ating unang-unang episode. Dito po ay webinar series na you know, organized ng aning nag-groupo, University of the Philippines System, University of the Philippines Office of the Vice President for Public Affairs, the UP System Alumni Relations Office, the UP Information Technology Development Center, TVUP at the UP Alumni Freedom Project, kasama po do'n yung mga nared dan. Before I start, let me introduce our co-moderator, e medyo talaga hong nakakakahiyak na kasabay ako dito na sa panel na to, pero si Mr. Jose Y. Dalisa Jr. o Butch Dalisa. Kailalang kilala po dahil labing aning lamang ang kanyang kalangka awards. Dalisa was born in Romblon, pero Lasal Green Hills ang kanyang elementary school, Philippine Science High School sa Secondary School at UP Creative Writing at nag-aral pa sa abroad dahil siya po ay hindi lang kumlaude sa imaginative writing sa UP. Siya rin ho, IMA from the University of Michigan in 1988 and a Ph.D. in English from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee in 1951 bilang full bright scholar. Medyo tatlumpong libro na po kanyang na limbab. Malapon 1984 and I think merong pang limba coming up. Siya rin po ay nagsulat ng mga script para kailalino broka. At nabilang doon sa 100 most important writers of the Philippines sa no po, doon sa National Cultural Center of the Philippines Centennial Honors List. So without further ado, Professor Butch, introduce natin ang ating mga panelist. Magandang hapon malu at maraming salamat sa inyong lahat. Iagdag dago lang na retiradong professor na rin ako sa UP. Kaya ang ating mga kasama natin ngayon ay mga kasama ko rin sa tinatawag namin ang Oblation Forum at ipapaliwan na ko yung mamaya. Sa sinamang palad, hindi natin mga kasama ngayon si Professor Maris Jokno sa pagsyay may kaunting kapansanan ngayong araw. So balik, kasama naman natin ngayon ang dalawa natin mga kaibigan sa pamantasan si Professor Emeritus Salita Monsaud na inyosigurong maskilala bilang Marang Winnie. So it's a social economic planning secretary and director general of NEDA during the time of President Cori Aquino, but she has also been with the University of the Philippines since 1963. No, 71. 71 pala-ang-pala. And UP of course is where she got her BA in economics cum laude and proceeding to the University of Pennsylvania for her graduate studies. She is now also a professor emeritus of economics at the UP School of Economics. And again, most of you know her for her work in media for which she has received a slew of awards. She has hosted a palaban with Malub Mga Has and Miriam Kambao and she writes a bi-weekly column which you probably read faithfully in the Philippine Daily Enquirer Get Real. So it was Marang Winnie asaman natin ngayon hapon. And she will be accompanied by another very distinguished Professor Emeritus, Gisela or Gisela Concepcion, one of our leading researchers and professors from the Marine Science Institute. She is an academician of the National Academy of Science and Technology. She has a PhD in chemistry from UP. And her research interests include marine natural products, biochemistry, and the development of bio-screening methods. Si Gisela po e isa sa mga taong gumupunta sa dadat upang maghanap ng mga luna sa limbawa sa mga sakit natin tulad ng cancer. From 1977, 1997 to 1999, she was the president of the Philippine Society of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and she also was past president of the Philippine American Academy of Science and Engineering, which helped raise about 500 million pesos for the National Science Complex and many more millions for our MS and PhD programs in the sciences. Yun ang dalawa natin tampok na speakers ngayong hapon. Siguro malo-introduce mo yung ating reactors. Okay. So para lang hudon sa mga naging estudiantin itong mga teacher na to, ang ating pung episode ngayon e mga terror teachers, hindi terrorista. Kasi kong parang palagay ko kahit nakasinko kayo ay nga yung pagtatapat. Pero may reactors pa tayo na ganundin ang kategori, medyo astig po. Sa attorney Theodore Tedte was assistant court administrator and chief of the Supreme Court Public Information Office. Si Tedte para sa mga journalists obtained his law degree from the University of the Philippines in 1990 and a master's of law degree from Columbia University in New York. Before joining the Supreme Court, he focused on human rights and public interest law as a member of the free legal assistance group, the oldest human rights organization of lawyers in the country. Si Tedte is a tenured member of the faculty of the University of the Philippines teaching criminal law and remedial law from 2000 to 2012. Toim award di po si Attorney Tedte ng 2002 for legal aid in human rights. He was formerly director of the U.P. College of Law Office of Legal Aid and vice president for legal affairs of the University of the Philippines System. Medyo terror din hot bigatin yung susunod na reactor pero medyo batad din katulad ni Attorney Tedte. Si Dr. Javani Gani Tapang is the dean of the College of Science. Siya po ay may doctor of philosophy in physics from U.P. in 2002 at ang kanyang academic group instrumentation physics laboratory. Medyo alien po ito sa mga tagas social sciences. Ang fields of interest po niya, synchronization, biology and optics. Marami poong awards na nakuhan na si Dean Gani, katulad nung visor versatile instrumentation system for science education and research at siya po ay naging national winner at regional winner din ng NCR for gawa sanselor pinakamahusay at nanilatalang pananalixic. Siya rin po ay naging co-author ng isang libro, texting styles and information change of SMS text messages in Filipino. Palagay ko yung ating mga netizens ang magiging interested, makinikit Dr. Gani. Welcome po, Dr. Gani. At ang panghule pero hindi hu naman talaga makatawaran din. Siya po ay Dean ng Lysium of the Philippines University College of Law pero batang U.P. Si Atty. Maria Solidad o Sol Margarita Derikito-Mawis was chairperson of the Philippine Association of Law Schools and is now a member of its Board of Trustees. Miss Atty. Mawis is a part of a law office na siya po ay sang senior partner and she handles litigation and criminal law, corporation law, and civil law, particularly those involving family law. Law professor din po siya sa Adamsson University College of Law and is a corporate secretary of the Breaking the Yoke of Poverty and member of the Women Lawyers Circle o yung Will See sa po kumahalagang groupo din dito ng ating mga alumnay from the College of Law. She graduated cum laude from U.P., AB Political Science, and 15th in her law class at the U.P. She writes a column also, Property Rules for the Inquirer and is the co-author of a book on family law. Dag-dag po tayong kasama. Mamaya magsasalit at atawagi natin galing sa kapit bahay natin sa katipunan. Bilang kinatawan, din Louis Dumlau, Chairperson of the Institute for Social Entrepreneurship in Asia and Dean of the John Gokong Ways School of Management at the Ateneo de Manila University. Siya po ay may kinatawan na pinadala dahil may conflict of schedule, si Miss Anatan, Director of the Ateneo Center for Social Entrepreneurship o Accent. Siya po ay nan dito rin ngayon at mamaya atatawagi natin. So may U.P., may LIC yung may Ateneo. Okay, Professor Butch. Let's draw the red carpet na for ating mga terror. All right. Kasinga, palu, na itong mga nakaraang araw o lingo, magalas na pag-uusapan yung tinatawag na academic freedom. Kaya natin binuo itong panel na ito para pag-uusapan kung ano ba talagang ano ba yan anong paseng laman o hayok o itong academic freedom, anong ibig sabihin nito? Bakit importante ito sa buhay ng isang pamantasan tulad ng U.P.? Hindi lang U.P., hindi lang public schools, private schools. Lahat tayo ay may interest dito sa academic freedom. Pero ilang ba talaga sa ating anang akaunawa kung ano ito? Sa mga nagsimula itong idea na ito? At what are the corresponding, let's say, responsibilities that come with academic freedom? Puro freedom lang ba yan? May mga limitasyon din ba yan? Sa anang gagaling ang mga threats sa academic freedom? Bakit ito naka-threaten? At ano ang sinasabi ng batas sa academic freedom? Kaya tayo ay mga kasama rin mga abogadong ayon? So we will go through the whole gamut of consideration surrounding academic freedom and we will begin by asking our distinguished panelists today, our professors Emeriti, Professor Monsoed and Professor Concepcion to give us some preliminary remarks about what they think academic freedom is, how it operates and why it's important to the life of a university and of a nation. So go and we'll start with Professor Winnie Monsoed. Magandang happen po? Good afternoon, Boch. Good afternoon, Malood, Giselle. I don't know. I don't see Teddy Teha here. So I cannot greet him appropriately. Gyan po, Tita. Kumakawa po siya? Kumakawa po siya? Bakit hindi ko nakikita? A baka nakag full frame kayo, Tita. Okay. Let me see. No. Okay. Well, let me start. You know, curelessly enough I started my discussion what I thought was going to be a discussion by giving the definitions. I always start with definitions. All right? Ayong ano yung pinag-usapan natin when we're talking about academic freedom. First, from the Supreme Courts of the United States and I think Ginaya lang ng Pilipinas but don't correct me if I'm wrong. Academic freedom means that a university can and I quote, determine for itself on academic grounds who may teach what may be taught how it should be taught and who may be admitted to study. Excuse me. Do you want me to continue? Yes, please. Okay. I mean, I have no idea. You know, you just invited me three days ago, ha? Talagang nakakainosito. You know. So, I went to my old encyclopedia Britannica. I consider it the best of the best. And the Britannica says that academic freedom is the freedom of teachers and students to teach, study, pursue knowledge and research without unreasonable interference or restriction from law, institutional regulations or public pressure. It's basic elements include the freedom of teachers to inquire into any subject that evokes their intellectual concern to present their findings to their students, colleagues and others to publish their data and conclusions without control or censorship. May importante yan. And to teach in the manner they consider professionally appropriate. For students naman, the basic elements include the freedom to study subjects that concern them and to form conclusions for themselves and express their opinions. At saka dinignang ko pa ang vision paper ni Chancellor Fidel Nemenso, no ha? Ang sabi niya, academic freedom includes the freedom to challenge orthodoxies and established ways of thinking and acting without fear of repression or punitive action. This freedom is essential for the life of the mind. This is now coming into UPI. And for UPI's dual role as A, knowledge producer and B, social critic. We play the role of social critic from a position of evidence-based scholarship and moral courage. This role should be recognized as a duty to the nation. And then naman, so we're saying, is this academic freedom just for the benefit of teachers and students? Ah no, the justification for academic freedom, and I quote, lies not in the comfort or convenience of teachers and students, but in the benefits to society. How did society get involved there? Ah well, the long-term interests of society are best served when the educational process leads to the advancement of knowledge. And knowledge is best advanced when the inquiry is free from restraints by the state, by the church, other institutions or by special interest groups. Unquote. And that's from the, I think that's from the Britannica. Now the question, the point is, and this we have to thank Butch Dalisa for giving us this reference, this academic freedom is not unlimited. One, that does not mean that a faculty member can harass, threaten, intimidate, ridicule, impose his or his views on students. Two, student academic freedom does not deny faculty members the right to require students to master course materials and the fundamentals of the disciplines that they teach. Maramiyan neither academic freedom nor tenure protects an incompetent teacher from losing his or her job or academic freedom does not protect faculty members from colleague or student challenges. Two, or disagreement with educational philosophy and practices. Tapos may academic freedom does not protect faculty members, obviously from non-university penalties if they break the law. Academic freedom does not give students or faculty the right to ignore college or university regulations. It does not protect students or faculty from disciplinary action, but it requires that they deserve fair treatment and process. The last two are is that academic freedom does not protect faculty members from sanctions for professional misconduct and neither academic freedom nor tenure protects a faculty member from various other sections. In other words, it is not limited. It's not unlimited. Okay, and pa paano ba yan academic freedom. Ayan. The movement of academic freedom started when university started at the 13th century. I apologize to the historians, please. This is a little history. It first arose in response against strictures imposed by the Catholic Church. When the Protestant Church arose, they had strictures. Then in the 18th and early 19th century, ibanaman ang threat. Then newly emerged European nations. That was the chief threat to academic freedom. Kasi professors were subject to government authority and were liable to be allowed to teach only what was acceptable to the government in power. Does not ring bells with you? And then in 1811 ba, the University of Berlin came out. Basic principles of excuse me if I don't pronounce this correct. Lair fry height, the freedom to teach and learn fry height. Freedom to learn. Co-affirmly established yan and that became the model the inspiration for universities in Europe and America. 1811 pa yan. And then but it hasn't all been roses since then. Because in the 20th century 1932, 1945 Germany, which was the cradle of academic freedom academic freedom was totally eclipsed in Germany. Madaling mamatay academic freedom under the Nazi rule. In the 1950s America was supposed to be the bastion of academic freedom. 1950s academic freedom na natuyo sila during the anti-communist hysteria in the United States that sounds again familiar anti-communist hysteria in the United States. This is what is called the McCarthy period example, you know professors were required to take loyalty oaths by universities that they were not anti-communist et cetera and they were dismissed without due process when they refused to do this. This is 1950 that's 70 years ago mga kapatin and the present what is happening now in the Philippines brings the McCarthy period in the United States very much to mind what you mean who is our McCarthy well, there's general Parlade and maybe Secretary Lorenzana and in the Senate we have nakuteng God na lang that it is Bato del Rosario why do I thank God? because he doesn't have the wits to do never mind that is very bad of me anyway so what are we going to do? what are we going to do about this? well, we have to think number one sa akin I know that we organized you organized this webinar because the faculty really doesn't have not many faculty really have well have the patience or the time willingness to learn about academic freedom or you take it for you take it for granted well this has to change and this webinar is a huge step in the right direction and we must internalize that academic freedom does not stand alone in support of the higher education system we have to internalize and I'm taking this from Carrie Nelson's book no university is an island saving academic freedom we must internalize that academic freedom and shared governance and tenure are three legs in the footstool that supports the higher education system that's the first thing we have to do we've got to educate the faculty ourselves I mean I had to do a lot of reading for for this webinar alright we've all got to learn about it and ito ang aking kwan ito ang aking pambato we really have to think seriously about organizing ourselves into a Philippine Association of University Professors or Philippine Association of University Teachers ala the American Association of University Professors or the Canadian Association of University Teachers because the American Association of University Professors is more than 100 years old it's about 100 105 years old in unity there is strength union there is strength and I'm further suggesting that the Professors of the UP led by can lead the way I am very serious about it because maybe in a university when a particular university is under attack maybe their faculty gets so afraid but a union that is more than just a university but a combination of universities is a much stronger organization to deal with we have we have to create something permanent we cannot just have episodial collective action like we are doing now episodial collective action ito let's make it sure permanent so that we have institutional memory et cetera and this episodial collective action is by the way Nelson's term and there are lots of threats to academic freedom not just the military there's threats from the corporation institutionalization you realize that when the business organizations try to tell us what to teach our students because it is what is marketable that is an infringement of academic freedom and the agencies and the departments that don't have marketable skills are left hanging out to dry we cannot allow that even globalization even the IMF's strictures on creating what do you call this universities are involved in this carry Nelson lists down 16 threats to academic freedom and here we are faced with the threats from the military mas marami pa yan but we have to deal of course with the military now so that's my second a Philippine association Philippine professors Philippine university professors association Philippine association Philippine university teachers association na ko hindi pwede yan but it is a very serious concept and I think we should it's time for us to take the lead and the third is that governance this is looking into ourselves we have to review our procedures to determine whether they can be improved the grievance procedures by students and by teachers we have to look at it before you know we have to take out what is it the style in our eye before we look at the style in other people's eyes that's it ang feedback prof butch and prof weenie amazing anong amazing bak amazing daw kayo tita thank you for the historical background and clear definitions na ko thank you my darlings at I think the suggestions are well taken sige prof butch our next speaker talagang put a fired brand dino si tita weenie daig tayo dino si tita ko maraming maraming salamat kay prof weenie para sa kanyong napakalinaon na introduction dito sa ating topic at doon sa mga nag-isip na baka puro teoria lang itong pinag-uusapan natin ipapalala ko lang noong panahon ng batas militar talagang may mga pumapasok na militar sa faculty center pulao and arresting people right and left hindi ka makapasok na sa campus na hindi tumitigil ang boost ninyo para umakit ang mga militar para tingnan kung sino-sino jansa mga nakasakay ang mga insurecto pero alam mo butch at the same time the military was sending so many students to UP to study to improve you know what I mean it's two faces that one they want to repress and the other they want to take advantage of our academic excellence so that they're graduates I mean you have to you have to give that to them also that's right and in fact we should probably stress na yung militar ay hindi naman talagang dapat kaaway dito kung di kasama natin in nation building kung nagkakaunawa tayo at nag-respecto sa mga kapapatang isa tumulidaman tayo tayo doktor Giselle conception she comes from a background in scientific research so it's I think it's very important for us to see how academic freedom ties into that culture and why academic freedom is absolutely necessary even in the silence of a laboratory Professor Giselle Maraming salamat P. E. Butch and Madam Winnie we researched ang New World Encyclopedia for the definition of academic freedom pareho ng what you said so gusto ko lang dagdagan at to distinguish between individual academic freedom so faculty academic freedom student academic freedom they sometimes conflict pero there are ways to fix that and then yung institutional autonomy so yung institutional autonomy let's just remember that the institution has a hierarchical structure ibig sabihin sa university meron tayong departments or institutes tapos meron tayong mga kolehiyo tapos meron tayong constituent units and each of these have governing officials tapos yung highest governing body natin yung board of regents so siyempre dapat natin talakayin yung academic freedom within this institutional structure pero let me also give a background on the history of academics and academic freedom and I go back to the time of a Socrates Plato and Aristotle and I don't know if P.E. Dodong Namensor is here pero ayaw na ayaw niyang meritocracy and aristocracy na yan pero sa katotohanan lang yung mga nung panahon na yung B.C. yung mga pinakamagagaling na mga youth na hindi maturuhan ng kanila mga biological parents they were naturally attracted to these learned men who are philosophers ok, so nag-form ng tinataw ng concept of academia or academy ngayon nung panahon ni Socrates purus question and answer philosophy pero nung dumating na kay Plato tapos kay Aristotle ayaw na nag-uumpisan na ngayon yung science yung part of science na empirical so we remember na si Aristotle maraming alam na tungkol sa nature so anyway fast forward ngayon to medieval Europe and on behalf of the scientists and engineers here the basic and foundational sciences of biology chemistry, physics of course mathematics, the handmade of science and now the applied sciences in health, agriculture and the engineering sciences I'd like to point out what is historically relevant nung panahon ni Copernicus who said that you know, it's heliocentric hindi tayong center of the universe hindi naman siya naman persecute at the time ang na persecute ng gusto si Galileo Galilei diba? and si no nag-persecute sa kanya, siyempre yung simbahan so he was persecuted for the inquisition so anyway yun yung I think most blatant example of the suppression of academic freedom to know or to pursue knowledge during that time and then all else yun ng mga kinwento ni Madam Winnie now may I move to the why and I'm wondering whether Rika and PEG may I share some slides which I requested before this Madam Winnie ako two days notice lang ako ako two days notice maari ba kong magshare ako po, sige po maraming, maraming salamat at medyo agar-agaran mga kamin tayo sa tinatawag natin issues dito sa universidad natin so I always use these slides and some of our faculty remember me saying or these things like over and over again parang sobrang broken record universitas thinking pa paaw na naman si PEG yun na naman si Giselle open-minded thinking because there's so much to know in the world and we scientists and engineers are concerned about knowledge not only of ourselves but of the world around us so we seek knowledge knowledge is growing in leaps and bounds and no single individual possesses sufficient knowledge to address the challenges and problems in society and we know already our role in the university because we're supposed to be select we were selected assuming we were the good students of UP so like selecting a bike up top a certain number of us stayed on in the university and gained our confidence and expertise at our respective fields and that gave us the right or the right to mentor, to educate, to teach the best and brightest of the next generation and it goes on and on okay and so actually that's how cultures and civilizations in the world were created and how they persist but in the university we are agents for progressive change we are, you said social critics because we are supposed to pursue knowledge without boundaries without restrictions in an unencumbered and in an enabling environment okay individuals of complementary interests and expertise should come together to seek and create more knowledge and then these ones I hope all scientists even social scientists surely will recognize a 3D graph and I say this is just the real world of time and space and each of us actually studies nature and ourselves in different scales of time and space and when you say log, that's 10 fold so yung iba magaaral ng microbio, yung iba magaaral ng geological movements iba ibang geological time and space from microbial space now this list here is for an anthropocentric view of knowledge not always referred to the man the human family community society nation world but if we were not to be anthropometric and say eccentric and say that it's man and the rest of nature eto naman yung kanya mga katumbas and we say this is growing in leaps and bounds now in the context so why do we enjoy academic freedom because there's so much to learn through all our disciplines and now we're coming together and engaging in what we call interdisciplinary research and creative work now comes the UP Charter that's a law mandate as a national university and I know our lawyers will tell us about this but eto naman yung price for academic freedom eto naman yung ating and responsibilities with rights comes responsibilities ang lakalake ng responsibility natin we are to serve as a graduate university serve as a research university and lead as a public service university okay so hindi lang tertiary level education it means postgraduate means may kasamang research and creative work or generation of new knowledge now one qualification yung bang freedom to pursue knowledge is the same academic freedom is the same as freedom to express this knowledge well it's depend it depends no so my own view is it depends because you are supposed to write and speak about your area of expertise and then the way we do it in science we allow our peers to evaluate, peer evaluate our work so we have enough humility to allow our science to be published and see what the reactions are of the whole world of our fellow experts in the field so I think that's so important that could be freedom of expression as a component like freedom we would be speaking about our areas of expertise that's my view okay so these are the mandates of our university and they're intersecting so our I think major or queen mandate would be generating new knowledge through our research and creative work and in this way we lead okay but then that research and creative work can enrich or can infuse so much new knowledge in our teaching and mentoring and that is really our bread and butter this is our living we are teachers I mean I'm also retired already so this was our livelihood main livelihood but then also we said we also want to be relevant to society and the best way to be relevant to society is to find new solutions existing problems and challenges that exist in society and that would be from the fruits of our research and creative work so what we're going to do is trying to merge all of them to integrate them even better okay now the other why of academic freedom I would think is something that we came up so the way we look at academics is like a complex system so this is from a scientist's perspective it's a whole environment a whole milieu and there are so many players on the left side you have the students of faculty you have the administrators and this is where I'd like to point out that you'd say academic freedom to determine your administrators is very very important why because you want the administrator of a college or of an institute to provide the enabling environment for its faculty and its students in the in the engaging in their functions of teaching education mentoring research creative work and public service so the person who leads a unit of the university must be someone who's been well trained to lead that particular institute and you know years back we actually got a grant from the Temasek Foundation and National University of Singapore and it was supported by the CHED and it was this dual program which emphasized that we must really train our academic administrators to support our faculty and students it is called the Developing University Leaders Program So that's very very important so here you see the mandate of the university there you have the physical infrastructure and facilities that will allow us to do our jobs well and I'd like to point out another administrative thing that you know it's very relevant now because now in the university we are able to teach we're able to teach online during this time of COVID but then we had what we called the EUP and the EUP was a little bit controversial but then again now everything has really got to be electronic or online in terms of getting the faculty data getting the student data getting say financial data and also the procurement process. So technology has a way of liberating us of allowing us to pursue our knowledge because we become more efficient so what are the stops or the breaks or the restrictions to our academic freedom it's really this it's our responsibility and duty to get this big arrow to move forward so that we can be of significant public service for the rest of the Philippine society in the rest of the world is overall for the long term higher greater good which we should be assessing every now and then and so we have all these arrows that move to the left and they are really feedback loops and you will see that we are in a kind of a boundary here academics that's in the green boundary and then we have of course the governance structures and then outside we would have a private sector and we'd say that they're just feeding in into our academics and our ability to pursue knowledge in this enabling liberating unencumbered environment of academic freedom what are some of the things that they're doing now and I'm almost like speaking on behalf of VP Senksha I don't know if she's here but surely this has been tough again through technology you're able to continue doing the mandate of UP which is to educate the best and brightest who online are remote teaching and learning part together program that's been so challenging but I believe it's working very well and I believe that UP's academic reputation has been responsible for its rise in the ranks not that ranks are so important they are just a proxy for quality in the university but I think it's remarkable our rise in the ranks is truly remarkable and I know that a lot of it has to do with a quality of our tertiary level education and also now we have a growing number of publications that are very well received and cited and are becoming very influential in the world again to emphasize what I was saying earlier about freedom of expression so if your expression is through your publications then you can say that it is peer reviewed by international and local experts then you stand by it now if you're going to speak up in other ways or other fora maybe maybe you have to be more careful about that and this is all in this catalog of research and creative work and I never forget the accomplishments of the UP Press because here you have the publications of our faculty in the arts, humanities and social sciences and I always keep telling UP Press Director Neil Garcia that this is very impressive so public good and public service I like to look at this public good and public service which were the components of the social contract of the previous administration which I believe were being pursued by the current administration but what I always say is what they lack was this part a clear statement on the role of education K-12 K-12 that brought international higher education and creative work research and innovation to input into all of these interdisciplinary public goods or public service goods and to capture that we have in the university what we call emerging interdisciplinary research that has produced a lot of output aside from the ones that have been funded by the government like DOSD is a major funder of our project so is DA and so how are we going to implement their projects if we do not enjoy a space of academic freedom to do our research and creative work so what I'm saying is I think we would have to protect and further strengthen academic freedom in the university just so we can fulfill our duties and responsibilities at the university and further in a UP Knowledge paper we came up with this it's not enough for UPCUs to do the work there are regions in the country where we need to align and collaborate with other leading SMCs and other sectors of society okay so I think that in my next chance to speak I'll just tell you what I know of scientists and engineers in the UP who have contributed significantly to society through their projects, through their initiatives through their early response efforts including those during this time of COVID and for other quite controversial projects of the rest of society so thank you very much for this time to speak University Sacramento USA Binyang Laguna of course Ketsun City Angel City Bonggaw Tawi Tawi Maykawayan Fairview Malabon Zambuanga Illigan City Marami po naga participate at meron ho tayong 1500 yunag register but we're live on YouTube as well as on Facebook at na sa room din ang ating UP Chancellor for Diliman Fidel Limenso at ang ating UP official former President Emerlynda Roman and Vice President Hemino Abad Prof Butch tingnan natin ngayon yung ating reactors we have two gentlemen and a lady si Professor si no po ba unan natin Prof Butch but there's a kind of a general question I'd like to throw at them following through on the discussions if academic freedom sounds so good bakit tayo naga problema dito why isn't this just accepted or adopted by everybody bakit kailang pa natin pagusapan kung ano ito, kung ano yung hindi ito at mga limitasyon ito and and so on we'll ask Attorney Ted to go first and approach this from a legal point of view how does the state look at academic freedom okay, good afternoon marami salamat butch and maloom let me try to answer that by again like Mamwini and Doc Gisel providing a definition allow me to just share a few slides to do that this is for context, this is a set of questions that I extracted from an actual case and the relevance of the this set of questions and the case will become will be revealed in a few minutes so if you, I won't read the questions anymore you can read them from the slides but reading through them, they actually evoke a profound sense of deja vu these are things that we've been hearing these are things that we've been talking about this sounds like an interrogation that is very very recent now, where did this come from this comes from a decision of the US Supreme Court actually from a concurring opinion of Justice Frank Furter of the US Supreme Court and he gave the classic definition of academic freedom which Mamwini quoted earlier and the set of questions were actually posed to this person, Suizi I'm not sure if that's the way it's pronounced but I'll just pronounce it the way I read it Suizi, who was who gave several lectures, three lectures in three years before university and of course this was in the 1950s at the height of the Red Scare and so he was subpinad several times and asked what did he talk about and the questions that I gave earlier those were actual questions that were asked of him which he refused to answer which he refused to answer and so he was brought to court because of his refusal to answer and it reached all the way to the US Supreme Court in the definition in the in the concurring opinion of Justice Frank further he said in the university knowledge is its own end not merely a means to an end a university seizes to be true to its own nature if it becomes a tool of church or state or any sectional interest a university is characterized by the spirit of free inquiry its ideal being the ideal of Socrates to follow the argument where it leads this implies the right to examine, question, modify or reject traditional ideas and beliefs dogma and hypothesis are incompatible and the concept of an immutable doctrine is repugnant to the spirit of a university the concern of its scholars is not merely to add and revise facts in relation to an accepted framework but to be ever examining and modifying the framework itself and this particular this particular formulation of Justice Frank further in his concurring opinion could be summarized in these four fundamental freedoms which he formulated he said academic freedom can be reduced to these four fundamental freedoms who may teach what may be taught how it shall be taught and who may be admitted to study now this particular concurring opinion has already been incorporated into Philippine jurisprudence and particularly in the 1987 constitution in the 1987 constitution the formulation of academic freedom in section 5 paragraph 2 of article 14 and it says academic freedom shall be enjoyed in all institutions of higher learning and part of the records of the constitutional commission of 1986 looking through the records one of the debates covering this particular provision centered on what institutional academic freedom covers and who is entitled to academic freedom and one particular interpellation was between former justice and now retired and now Philja Chancellor Adolf Ascuna and current CHR commissioner Chito Gascon in the Concom and Chito Gascon's question concerned the academic freedom of all the sectors in a particular university whether it is only reserved to the faculty or it is also enjoyed by other sectors of the university and Justice Ascuna's answer was that it covers everyone and the formulation the final formulation that they made was that it just says institutions of higher learning and that is understood to cover everyone within that institution of higher learning now section 5 paragraph 2 of article 14 was interpreted by the Supreme Court in UP versus ISON 1989 and this particular passage from that decision is important because it cites the concurring opinion of Justice Frankfurter in Suizi and it also cites former UP president Vicente Cinco it is to be noted that the reference to academic freedom is to the institutions of higher learning as the recipients of this boon it would follow then that the school or college itself is possessed at such a right it decides for itself its aims and objectives and how best to attain them it is free from outside coercion or interference say possibly when the overriding public welfare calls for some restraint it has a wide sphere of autonomy certainly extending to the choice of students this constitutional provision is not to be construed in a niggardly manner or in a grudging fashion that would be to frustrate its purpose nullify its intent it is the business of a university to provide that atmosphere which is most conducive to speculation experiment and creation it is an atmosphere in which there prevailed the four essential freedoms of a university to determine for itself an academic ground who may teach what may be taught how it shall be taught and who may be admitted to study so the 1957 concurring opinion of Justice Frankfurter actually found itself into Philippine jurisprudence not only in this case but in many many cases involving academic freedom but I wanted to highlight that as part of the jurisprudence involving UP this particular right has also been affirmed and as VP Giselle pointed out that in the UP Charter it also has a distinct formulation of academic freedom the national university that UP has the right and responsibility to exercise academic freedom so it is not simply that there is a right that sits there but there is a responsibility otherwise there is a duty to exercise academic freedom in the way that UP for example conducts its affairs so just a snapshot three instances where academic freedom let's say of the UP has been affirmed and to what extent that the freedom covers UP versus civil service commission the court said as part of its academic freedom the University of the Philippines has a prerogative to determine who may teach students the civil service commission has no authority to force it to dismiss a member of its faculty even in the guise of enforcing civil service rules board of regents of the UP this involved the granting of honors and the court said that the board of regents has the competence and expertise to decide that not the courts not anyone outside the university and the third involves a student who had her PhD revoke upon a showing of plagiarism she sued for mandamus and the court said mandamus the supply to compel the university to reinstate someone who in the university's determination had violated academic rules and enforcement of said rules had her degree revoked now I'm sorry this is a very long answer to Butch's very simple question but just to frame my answer to that why is there such a big deal about academic freedom I think within the particular context refine ourselves it is really an assertion of control within the university of the Philippines and within other universities for example academic freedom allows administrators, allows faculty allows students, allows the constituents of a university some degree of control over what we want to read, what we want to say what we want to think, how we want to think and who we want to think with discuss with, express ourselves with and so that's I think that's the tension that gives rise to where we are right now in the position of some degree of control or authority so maybe I'll just end there and give the other reactors a chance to say something thank you very much Dean Ghani could we hear from you? Dean Ghani same question why is there such a big deal now bakit kayilangan ilang lapastanganin or pigila ng academic freedom ngayon Dean Ghani na I share ko lang din yung ito po ay isang hindi na ko naghanap ng malayo hindi na ko gumunta kay playto yung rhythmas recent po na 1950s nakita ko ay si Einstein ay may sinabin tungkol dito sa academic freedom magand, siguro sa mga slides na ito ay makikita natin kung paano paano ito ay nakakain at yung sagot doon sa tanong ni Boots Kainan kaya Einstein di naman nagkaibaba yung definition na diniskask kainan nila na ating mga professors at atornit e isang dagdag lang siguro nangyari ito pagsagot ni Einstein itong interview sa kanya nung panahon na meron talagang matending red scare doon sa america at sa loob ay naghanap ng mga humanista at pinapasal nita yung sagot tinatan ng mga professors kung ano ang kanilang political affiliation ngayon ito importante siguro na ilagay dito yung point doon sa ilalim na any restriction na naft academic freedom acts in such a way as to hamper the dissemination of knowledge among people and thereby impedes rational judgment and action hindi lang po sa loob ng univercidad magiging importante ang academic freedom kasi yung role din ang univercidad para maglina, para magpakita ng katotoharan, para ilamin kung ano ang katotoharan nililimita na ito pag nililimita na ating academic freedom kagaya din po ito break lang po, meron huyatang nakaharang na choose a theme sa inyong presentation nila at makita ng mga sorry po balik tayo ke Einstein ganito ko nila po gagawin para beles tayo hindi ko na represent para represent mo para makita na lang na lahat kagaya po ito usapin actually na naging recently naging important na sa news usapin for example DNR criticizing UP yung pagahanap ng sabunap ng AFP yung pagiging usapin din paano ka ba pwede magawa ng field work kung meron naman pala mga threat doon sa mga field workers kagaya na nangyari kay Leonard Goh kay Einstein din naman po ay 1950s and it's really sound so na yung threats academic freedom sa panahon niya ay hindi nag-ibadong sa panahon natin ngayon for some alleged reason at that time there was an external danger supposedly to the US freedom of teaching, mutual exchange of opinions and freedom of press and other media of communication are enroged upon or obstructed so ginagamit ang isang razon at ito mga expression at itong ibang mga karapatan na ito at ang nagiging effecto nito ay marami ay hindi na nag-ibigay na kanilang opinion kahit sa loob na kanilang private social life ito yung kinakatakot ni Einstein at that time na kung doon sa isang tugar, sa isang institution kagaya ng universidad nilimita na itong external factors yung pagkakaroon na academic freedom paano pa kaya ang effecto nito doon sa loob na pag-iisip ng mga tao ng lipo na na pati doon ay makatakot siya nang magsalita at magkakaroon na effecto to sa isang demokrasya kagaya din babalikan ko lang dito at paurit-urit lang putong slide na ito may hirap talaga na sa sabihin lang ng isang and I think this is really for us the College of Science academic freedom issue na sa sabihin ng isang departamento na hindi namin papakinggan niyang sinasabi nyo dahil bayaran kayo dahil meron kaming ibang pagtingin at iba pa UPP does these researches the Marine Science Institute the Institute of Biology Environmental Science it na actually but they have a service also that they do to to our country yes pa siyipo, nag-faculter lang audio for Einstein as well I think this is more important for for us is actually ano ang role ng bawat isa sa atin ang isang intellectual ng miembro ng UPP community at ng lipo na dito kailangan kasi talagang ipaglaba ng bawat isang mga mayan hindi lang yung ng isang institution ng UPP academic freedom yung freedom natin pa para sa pag-iisip at iba pa kasi kasama ito at magiging real lang ito mga rights na ito kung ito ay ipapapatulay natin na ipaglalaban the intellectuals in the widest sense of the world work are in a special position since they have thanks to their special training a particular strong influence in the formation of public opinion this is the reason why those who are about to lead us towards in the authoritarian government are particular concerned with intimidating and musling that group it starts with intimidating universities it starts with taking away at academic freedom and afterwards those who could shape public opinion beyond Facebook would actually be lost for society and it is in our duty the intellectuals would actually have to stand and refuse to cooperate with any undertaking that violates this constitutional rights the words of Einstein really sounds so important right now even after 50 years has passed because it's a similar situation that we are in right now with regard to the threats to the university lastly of course Einstein was talking about how do you help victims of political institutions you actually support it you actually stand up to them and even if you are not the one being asked or being put into the microscope we should stand not only for our fellow intellectuals but also for the university so that the society could benefit or whatever academic freedom would be giving as benefits for society balikang ko lang po yung slide na ito marahan itong tatlong bagay na ito na pinili ko may sagot naman ang kolehiyo may sagot naman ang UP dito pero ginto po ang itsura ng ibad ibang itsura ng violations na at sa academic freedom natin yung hindi tayo pa pakinggan at sa sabihin bayaran naman kayo yung magbibigay ng allusion na meron sa bulab dito sa UP at gagamita yun na paraan para pumasok dito at sikilin yung pag at yung threat doon sa ating mga field workers dahil pinagdododahan silang MPA dahil na doon sila sa bundo ito po ay mga pag sikil doon sa passion na pwede natin pagaralan yung lipoonan yung kapaligiran at kung wala yung ganong luwag, kung wala yung ganong freedom para mag inquire ka, para magtanong ka na wawala yung sinasabi kang yun na sinayt ng atornite na yung atmosphere that is most conducive to speculation to experiment and to creation mawawala yung ganong klasi at mawawala na rin yung talagang function ng university para maghanap ng bago magharap, maghanap ng maganda at gumawa ng mga ibad ibang bagay na makakatulong sa dipunan if we are unable to speak our mind with intellectual honesty, what else would the university would be for us? It's not something that we just read the books and then quote-unquote learn from it. We actually learn and discover new things and if we're unable to do this because academic freedom is lost, then the university ceases to do its function for society. Marami salamat po at paumanhin sa problema sa internet. Okay. Prof. Boch, may room paho tayong isang reactor as mag-open forum po tayo. Thank you, Dr. Ghani. Si Dean Sol naman. Ang paga lang ko si Dean Sol ay isang student leader, bago siya bumasok sa pagaarul ng batas at of course naging kilalang lawyer na at ngayon ay isang educator sa batas. So please proceed with your presentation, Dean Mawis. Thank you, sir. Ang gandang hapon po sa inyong lahat. I will discuss and react on the statements issued by our professors, particularly the professors in medity. When they said, we draw particular attention to the need for acknowledging the authority as the prime authority with regard to their disciplinal expertise and for this purpose to be respected in all matters of academic governance. This too is a basic element in the optimization of academic freedom. I fully support the statement of our distinguished ability. The protest against the unilateral abrogation of the UPDND Accord. Not because I'm a graduate distinguished or great institution but it is because it is consistent with law and jury students. Bakit ba natin dapat pang usapan ng academic freedom? Ano po bang effecto ng pabawaksin ng UPDND Accord sa academic freedom? Lalu-lalu sa contextong academic freedom sa Universidad ng Philippines. Kani na po pinang usapan po ng malaling na mga ating kagalang-gala na presenters ang concepto po ng academic freedom. Allow me to add sa more and discuss the same in light of the obligated UPDND agreement and the red-dagging issues. You know, our Philippine constitution has already spoken. Academic freedom is a constitutional right. Our constitution expressly provides section article 14, section 5, academic freedom shall be enjoyed in all institutions of higher learning. Now, in the case versus the faculty admission committee, a case decided in 1975. The recognition in the constitution of institutions of higher learning enjoying academic freedom. It is more often identified with the right of a faculty member to pursue his studies in his particular specialty and thereafter to make known or publish the result of his endeavors to fear that retribution would be visited on him in the event that his conclusions are found distasteful or objectionable to the powers that be whether in the political, economic or academic establishments. For the sociologist Robert McIver, it is a right play by the accredited educator as teacher and as investigator to interpret his findings and to communicate his conclusions without being subjected to any interference, molestation or finalization because these conclusions are unacceptable to some constituted authority within or beyond the institution. As for the educator and philosopher Sidney Hook, this is his version. What is academic freedom? Briefly put, it is the freedom of professionally qualified persons to inquire, discover, publish and teach the truth as they see it in the film of their competence. It is subject to no control or authority except the control or authority of the rational methods by which the truths or conclusions are sought and established in these disciplines. In the case of Sadodaga versus FEP, a case that was decided by the Supreme Court, citing another Supreme Court case, Philippine School of Business Administration versus Court of Appeals. The highest court of our land said, institutions of learning must always meet the implicit or built in obligation of providing the students with an atmosphere that promotes or assists in attaining its primary undertaking of imparting knowledge. Certainly, those students can absorb the intricacies of physics or higher mathematics or explore the realm of the arts and other sciences when bullets are flying exploding in the air or whether looms around the school premises are constant yet to light. Necessarily, the school must ensure that adequate steps are taken to maintain peace and order within the campus premises and to prevent the breakdown thereof. Now, also in the Elban case of Garcia versus the Faculty Admission Committee, Justice Frankfurter with his extensive background in legal education and the work of the Harvard School of Law referred to what he called the business of a university and the four essential freedoms in the following language. It is the business of a university to provide that atmosphere which is most conducive to speculation, experiment and creation. It is an atmosphere in which there prevailed the four essential freedoms of a university to determine for itself on academic grounds how it shall be taught and who may be admitted to study. Now, how can the UP or our university provide quote-un-quote an atmosphere that promotes or assists in attaining its primary undertaking of imparting knowledge when as a result of the obligation of the UPB and the Accord, the military or police can now conduct operations including clandestine ones inside UP campuses since they are no longer obliged to first notify the UP administration of their activities or there is a possibility that non-uniform personnel of the military and police can enter the campus premises and actually become the seat mates of our students, of our children. When there is no longer a need for prior notification to the UP president or chancellor of the campus or the dean of the regional unit or the service of search warrants to any UP student, faculty, employee or invited participant in any UP activity, how can UP assure its academic community of atmosphere conducive to learning and the free flow of ideas or when in light of the unilateral obligation of the UPB and the Accord, a professor's critical thinking may be erroneously labeled and tagged as leftist consequences. How can one feel safe to express his thoughts when there's a blockless sword hanging over the fence? Especially light of the fact that an addressing officer is no longer obliged to report immediately to the UP admin the address or detection of any student, faculty or employee anywhere in the Philippines or there is no longer any basis to record the arresting officer to first notify the university administration and setting the members of the UP community to custodial investigation. Now, in the concluding opinion of Supreme Court Justice Bernabe in the case of Pimintel versus Medialdea, that's a very recent one, academic freedom is anchored, she said, academic freedom is anchored on the recognition that academic institutions perform a social function and its business is conducted for the common good that this necessary tool for critical equity or truth in its green exposition. Thus, the guarantee of academic freedom is complementary to the freedom of expression and the freedom of the mind. While it is true that freedom of expression is not an abrital right because it can be subject to certain conditions and limitations, the free flowing exchange of ideas may be stifled if fear of even expressing them permeates the academic atmosphere. The sudden and unilateral obligation of UPD and the afford does not be assurance safety, but instead so fear in the hearts of the professors and students. More so when it is done during the effectivity of the much discussed and feared anti-terror law. And this is not an unfounded fear, it is felt. It happened. So it is a true wisdom. As far as the professors are concerned, they should be given a wide latitude to express their beliefs without fear of retribution. Badoing the language of the Supreme Court in the case of SON versus USC. The personal aspect of freedom consists in the right each university teacher recognize and effectively guarantee by society to speak as the truth as he personally sees it both in his academic work and in his capacity as a private citizen. That's the status of the individual university teacher is as important in considering academic freedom as the status of the institution to which they belong and to which they disseminate their learning. Actually the UPD and the accord recognizes are not ang legal rights that may be exercised with impunity. Since the accord clearly states that nothing in the agreement should be construed as a prohibition against enforcement of the loss of the land. So why then abrogate it? Why abrogate it when DNP is assured that it can still enforce the loss of the land inside the university subject only to prior notice and coordination with the UP administration. Ang hini-hini lang naman po ay kung papasokitay sa bahay ng isang taon di ba kakakakutay nilang naman natin ang bubuk saan. Kuntin pasintabi lang nilang naman basically ang tini-hini ng university. So in fact one is bound to us given the UPD and the accord states that nothing in the agreement should be construed as a prohibition against enforcement of the loss of the land. What then is the basis of the secretary in saying that the accord bars the police to provide effective security for the safety and welfare of the students, faculty and members of the academic community. We must remember that the protection to the public rights of speech and assembly guaranteed by the constitution is similarly available to students is well taken in our jurisdiction. Thus in the leading case of Malabana University's the court citing justice for us in thinker versus I will pronounce it the way I read it in the dictionary Damwa Community School District said that students do not shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the school house gate. And as students right therefore do not embrace merely classroom hours. When he is in the cafeteria or in the playing field at the school's during authorized hours he may express his opinions even on controversial ones of subjects like the conflict in Vietnam or if he does so without materially and substantially interfering with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school and without colliding with the rights of others. But conduct by the student in class or out of it which for any reason whether it stems from time, place or type of behavior rather than disrupts or involves substantial disorder or invasion of the rights of others is of course not immunized by the constitutional guarantee of freedom of speech. While the secretary said that BNB has low intention to assign military and police personnel inside the campuses nor will it suppress activism academic freedom and freedom of expression the recent tagging is the theme up to his verbal assurance. Consistency in words and actions is the best gauge of good faith and transparency. Even the words of the secretary the military and the police are willing to reach out to the youth and provide them with another perspective on the nation and society and see the military and police as protectors worldly of everybody's trust and not to be feared. Let Yuki and BNB sit down mutually visit the accord then BNB and Yuki therefore must act in good faith. BNB therefore not even Yuki can act without factual or legal basis to yield the lettering turn its back on its own agreement. I am a product of the University of the Philippines. Well, long years. Hindi ako pa uli tulit. Four years UPIS three and a half tamahubay ating math ko three and a half AB political science four years UP college of law Hindi pa lang eleven and a half years pa lang yan kaya talaga makina talaga po ako sa math. Now I am back in UP I am teaching also as a professional lecturer in the college of law. Now during those years of course nagbasa po talaga ako ako manaral ko talaga ako pero naging miembro din po ako na sa masa na naging mga student council. Naging strong member, naging president of society of law students, naging vice president of UP law student government. I clenched my fists. I chanted, I marched and joined demonstrations. Kahit na humay-date ako sa araw na yung sumama pa rin mo ako sa pagnan marsha. My question, did my UPI experience turn me into a radical member of the left many-gate citizen? I can't say that with all honesty but my UPI experience made me love our country more and most of all, gave me the commitment the steadfast commitment to uphold the rule of law. In other words, ang nakikukip kapit-deasing o sumisig daw nang tupaksak ang redeeming din makata, ay hindi na nga haluhugan naysya, ay may puso kumunista o magiging kumunista. If some of the UPI students turn left or right or stay in the middle, UPI is not to blame. My UPI education exposed me to the leftist trauma, to the rightist office, to the ideas of the left of center, right of center, and the sentries. Pa-ikot-ikot toa sa aking ulu lahat huyan. But UPI became the channel for free exchange of ideas and the confluence of disagreements in thoughts and principles that made me who I am today. UPI was never a haven of ideologs. It was a haven for critical thinkers. UPI allowed me to decide on my own, based on shared ideas. Hindi po ako naging tererusta. Naging tero lamang po akong nang teachers sa log lam po ng classroom. Yan do lang siguro ang nangyari at at the end of the day, let PND and UPI talk. Let the tradition of honor, excellence and service with a beacon of light to guide everyone in resolving this controversy. Hayaan natin matakup tayo sa teacher or teachers, hindi po matakupin tayo sa tero na police o militar. Wala hong business ang tero na militar o police sa loobho ng isang academic institution. So sa mga bola po ng bayan, noon at ngayon ating ipagdiwang atitang halang ating dangal, nating at tapang halang alam sa ating duty namin mahal. Galing naman. Napapakantan na tayo Prof. Butch, ang galing ni Dean Sol sa masa, student leader at ngayon na Dean ng College of Law. Dean Sol, mamay ako maraming katanungan, related ja. Napakahalaga ng UP sa buhay na mga naging activista. Terror lang hindi terrorista. All right. Meru tayong isang kapit bahay sa katipunan Ateneo de Manila University. Dean Luis Dumlau, Chairperson ng Institute for Southeast Asian Studies Social Entrepreneurship in Asia, I'm sorry. Ay, may kinatawan hong ngayon, sinisanatan, director ng Ateneo Center for Social Entrepreneurship o Accent. Naruno silang statement, tukod do sa mga na red tag na mga alumni ng UP. Miss Anna, can we have you on board please? Good afternoon everyone. My name is Anna Tan. I'm the director of the Ateneo Center for Social Entrepreneurship. And I'm here on behalf of Dean Luis Dumlau. I would like to express the statement of support for Miss Lisa Dakanay who was included in the list of alumni that were red tagged by General Barlade. So his statement goes, I have had the privilege of working closely with Dr. Dakanay since I became ICA chairperson in 2017. We know Dr. Dakanay as a pioneering scholar, author, teacher, and mentor of social entrepreneurship. Under Dr. Dakanay's leadership, ICA has been in the forefront of stakeholders' consultations and the advocacy of the poverty reduction since 2012. She led an ICA action research on the impact of COVID-19 that came up with useful recommendations on how social enterprises could be supported as vehicles for the recovery of the poor towards building backfairers. Dr. Dakanay became the first Asian to be awarded as Outstanding Social Innovation Thought Leader of the Year in 2019 by the World Economic Forum and the Schwal Foundation for Social Entrepreneurship in recognition of her visionary, pragmatic, and courageous contributions to significantly improve the state of the world. Responding to public outcry, the ND Secretary Lorenzana called the red tagging incident of the former UP student leaders, including Dr. Dakanay an unpardonable gaff. The list has since been taken down and an apology has been issued. While these are welcome developments who are worried for Dr. Dakanay, because of the senseless killing of citizens similarly red tagged in recent months. We are also worried that the anti-terror law allows detention of individuals and freezing of individual and organizational bank accounts on mere suspicion of being part of a group identified as terrorists by the state. As chair of ICA, I call in our community to be vigilant in ensuring the protection of an enabling environment to work without fear with partners towards fulfilling our mission of educating the youth to contribute to nation-building as men and women for others. Signed, Dr. Louis Dumlau, Dean of Ataneo John Gawkmoy School of Management. All right. Maraming salamat, Miss Ana. Ngayon po, Prof Bootsh, pwede na tayo mag-umpisan ang questions. Manaming tanong. At nakapila yung mga comments of hand lang ang sabi, ang galing-galing niyo Dean Sol inspiring Thank you, Dean Sol. Pwede si Dean Ghani, as si Professor Ted. Parang may fans club, mukhang hindi na si Ngkotong mga sa janting. Prof Bootsh. Salamat, Maru. Meron na kong isang cluster na mga questions na ikagsasama-sama na because they have to do with the idea of academic freedom and our collegial culture versus authority although for the first one, si Mareng Wini ang best nakasagot nito. Yung tanong ko, yung unang tanong yung connection between academic freedom and academic excellence kasi parang we take this for granted. Kaya nga lang, yung mga nag-arguyo naman na hindi naman necesari yung freedom for excellence kasi paraming mga top-rate universities sa People's Republic of China chakas Russia na napakaraming restrictions pero andami pa rin nilang na-produced na mga Nobel Prize caliber na mga scientists, for example. So how do you talaga bang requisite yung freedom for excellence? Pangalawa, how do you reconcile yung academic freedom nating sa UP with the fact na pinapondohan tayong ng gobierno? Wala bang katapatan ng gobierno and just playing devil's advocate nito na sabihin sa atin kong anong dapat gawin natin kasi sila naman na nagpapondo. At pangatlo, how do you reconcile yung ating collegiality at academic culture with the idea na parang we are also in a sense being run like a corporation with a board on top which sometimes creates policies top-down or implementation. So it's a massive of concerns but just take it from any angle that you can. Nakalimutang ko na yung first question mo in dami mong... Pardon my senior moment. I very much think that academic freedom is connected to academic excellence. If you don't have if you are told what you can or cannot think how can you possibly expand your minds and broaden your perspective. You're always going to hindi tama ang mga yari sayo e. Second place, I don't consider your question about the Chinese universities and their Nobel prize quality. I don't think that's based on fact. I mean, if they were the Nobel prize quality they should have been the Nobel prize winners. So I'm not going to talk about that. Look at what happened to the COVID-19 vaccines. The the Chinese pharmaceuticals don't want to release their data or are very late in releasing their data. This is no good. And why is that? Because they are used to making sure that the government approves of what the data they release is first. That's no way to run a business that's no run the way to run a university. And finally, your third question. What is that about? What is bored? In my in my presentation I guess you must have missed it. I said one of the important things about academic freedom is that it is part and parcel of three legs of a stool that supports higher learning and the second leg of that stool is shared governance. And I hate to say it but in the University of the Philippines I think there's a great deal of slippage in that shared governance. As shown by what is happening with respect to the College of Business Administration that is a claim to academic freedom and I recall when Emma Roman what was that Emma Roman's decision was not upheld by the board with respect to the status of a professor tenure given tenure. I mean Emma Roman said she should not be given tenure there was a whole academic process that was it. And then it was overturned by a corporate board the book of Carrie Nelson talking about saving academic freedom he talks about the 16 threats and one of them is really the undermining of the shared governance it does not take place like a one big thing at the time but little slippages here and there slippages pretty soon you come out with a situation where you have a dean that has not even been recommended by the college or by the search committee or by the chancellor or by the president we have problems with governance and that's one of the things we have to be alert ourselves with when I said that the professor are in the best position kasi di na sila dependent on the university alo ha to start this organization that will be sure to prevent not only incursions on our academic freedom but everywhere alright can you bring in some questions from the participants prof buts ano I think all the participants to any of the panelists sabi niya what can you say about the DILG's move to seek a dialogue with UP in regard to the 1992 UP DND Accord meron kasunod doon could you please comment on chairman de Vera statement that the UP DND Accord is bound to be problematic actually parang siguro really fresh what are you saying did you hear me? I'm sorry excuse me so I mean the UP DND Accord I think that was the trigger for the oblation forum statement ng professor and meriti ay natin and now I think the dialogue proposal hands in the air so it will happen but wala sa admin ngayon kanina nakita ko si chancellor fidel nemenso ewan ko lang kung gusto niyang sumali sa usapan na quote naman siya ni professor monstod kanina so yun yung mga questions ano na current from ABSCBN from some of the participants tapos pwede daw bang ipaliwanag ano ba yung trigger but nagkaroon ng UP DND Accord kailan magkakaroon ng dialogue bound to be problematic nga ba paano ba nagsimula baka si Ted alamang history? kailan siguro familiar at si professor si Dean Sol ang mga estudiantin on pero later pa yata si Dean Sol naabota no I don't know if si president Emerlinda Roman I'm here Can you hear me? Okay, hi Malou Anyway, just to give you an idea of how that Accord came about I think it was during the time of let me turn on my video I think it was during the time of president Abueva that he felt the need because there were incidents of uniformed men entering the campus and going straight to the students that's one situation another situation is there were elements from the NBI who wanted to get addresses of our students et cetera et cetera so Dr. Abueva felt that we needed an agreement that will that will define how they can come in not to limit their coming in their entry into the university but to come up with rules and policies on how they can come in they're not prevented from coming in they just need to coordinate with the UP police and also during hot pursuit they may go through UP because Jung Road say UP may go there you cannot really prevent them from entering the university it's just a matter of coordination so it was I think between Dr. Abueva and president Pidel Ramos that the agreement was finalized and it went on very smoothly and then when DILG was created because at the time it was just the PCIMP created there was another memorandum of agreement this time signed by Rafi Alunan at that time so ang na-abrogate lang is the UPDNB agreement I do not know what happened to the DILG agreement atulay pa rin nyo atulay pa rin nyo in fact meron lahong flash na dito na Twitter feed from Usec Jonathan Malaya Good what we want is to have a healthy discussion with the officials of UP Right so I'll go back to what Teddy Te said earlier because why did this happen at all and sabi nga he said something about something about the desire to control and that's going to be very difficult to handle because you know if you want to control UP maybe imagine pati ang mga artistang they want to control all the more ang UP so I really do not know if there have been talks between the UP administration and DND whether they're willing to reinstate the agreement but they heard but there has got to be a way for the two parties to get together because they cannot unilaterally unilaterally stop the agreement ay ang sadin because you have a chair of the board who seems to be on their side and not on the university side and the chair of the board is an academic he understands the culture of the university yeah so that is I feel very sadin alright professor emeer daming mga comments ang sabi galing ng discussion academic freedom if it serves the pursuit of truth and service to humanity the government should honor this for the greater good mabuhay ang mga panilist but mayroong katanungan dito na parang yung who daw pag revoke ng UPD and the Accord dahil daw nagiging havens for recruitment ang university but 18 other universities and colleges recruitment na mga CPP NPA now I don't know if the professor emeeriti has had some experience or may be actual witness to this allegation mayroong nga nag-recruit wala naman kaming nakikita ang recruitment boots na tinatayo ang CPP NPA sa UP Fair everybody's recruitment ground ananda marga, crusade or chrys lahat ng clasing mga organization nag-recruit dito sa UP hindi naman natin nakikita ang CPP NPA na nag-recruit openly ang tabaho natin dito ay magturo sa mga bata begin sila ng mga idiang mapag-iisipan nila what they do with their ideas and their lives is part of being UP is part of their business of being responsible for themselves and their future kaya hindi ko nakikita ang kasalanan ng UP atong mga sinasabi nilang recruitment dahil saan magsisimula yan can you pinpoint a particular moment in time and place where this recruitment happened I can't so they might as well accuse all universities of this of this fault and and believing in magsisim as an idea is no crime even Harvard has a magsis club kaya these are I think very silly observations that disregard the role that universities play as purveyors of all kinds of ideas ok, can we get the professors also to comment on this have you seen, have you witnessed na may recruitment bang laganak kasi mukhang yung po yung trigger ng pag-revoke ng UPD and the accord I think professor Winnie and then Dean Giselle Dean Ghani, meron ba recruitment may I speak Giselle here, malo siguro yung tinatahong natin truth verification or fact check as a basis for coming to the negotiation table chicken natin ano yung basis nyan and that I think would be the basis for arguing the point so I think Dean Ghani can tell us more about how this can be done Ghani, then professor Winnie yes po, actually we kailangan talaga ang mag-percent ay andee-andee kong bakit naginagawa ng paratang just like any other academic kapag may sinabi ka, dapat may backup ka hindi pweding pasaring lang palami at gagamitin mo na yan na basis now the other one of course is this going to be a slippery argument for them because once you say that the university is now saying recruiting communists ano pa yung ayaw yung mo iparek pagawa sa university kung ayaw mo bang pa-estadito kung ayaw mo bang pa-aral yung dolomite pipigilan mo na rin sabihin mo na rin na may problema ang university and also like to connect that to the question of Bush earlier na may funding naman kasi sa government part kayo ng government bakit kayo nagsasabi ng hindi kapareho ng government with all its research with all its studies we have the experts here we hire only experts and because of that what they say we have a modicum of truth that they are saying so pag sinabi for example may problema yung dolomite project kahit funded yun ang DNR hindi yan babawihin ating mga scientists kasi to tayo nago umpisa sa pinag-arala nila yan meron silang datos para dyan at pinitindigan sila sa kanila mga sinasabi the principle of mutuality kahit pareho kayo may respeto tayo sa sinasabi ng university dapat may respeto din yung mga ibang mga government of this like the DND to sustain mga ating mga profesor okay so si Dean si Professor Winnie ano po inakita bakit na re-cruit yes yes i mean a friend of mine this was about ten years ago you know she came to me crying because she said her daughter was in well somewhere at the university and she was she had joined a group that was leftist group and she refused to come home i mean it was a big emotional thing and she accused a teacher of being the recruiter and I referred her I don't know what happened I referred her I should have taken a more active role but I referred her to the Dean of the college I don't know what happened but for six years this girl had been enticed and she went but finally she came back and now all is well she never got her degree but she's now no longer part of that group and that's why I was mindful of what the lease I said every agency and his brother is trying to recruit UP students sororities fraternities that's part of the deal and it is up to the student to find out whether he or she wants to now if that student has been intimidated or has been chorus into doing into doing this thing I don't know that's why in my talk a little while ago I said we've got to look over our grievance procedures I don't know whether these students are being are being coerced I have no idea Hi Fidel Chancellor Fidel would like to weigh in on this would you like to give some comments related question anong sasabihin niyo sa mga magulang ng mga nare-recruit ng UP nagiging unfair sa kanila although it's been explained everybody recruits everybody in the University of the Philippines Chancellor Fidel I just want to echo what's been said there's recruitment left and right what we provide is a learning environment whatever decisions they make these are mature students they take responsibility for their decisions but as butch said every group tries to every group tries to recruit students I don't know of recruitment into the CPPNPA but definitely there's recruitment from the left and the right but these are decisions that students make and we respect their decisions but for those who say that UP is just a breathing ground they conveniently forget that UP produces scientists engineers, educators, doctors economists economists artists mathematicians alright these are the people UP is known for UP produces leaders for almost every field but there's a follow up question here para lang iitanong galing ito sa tauitawi so the question is panuhubah will the abrogation of the UPDND Accord have anything to do with the red tagging now of other universities will it also affect them including MSU Mindanao State University kasi parang andami ng nare red tag may mga campuses sa Mindanao sa Visayas na nare red tag na at in danger of being the universities have come together Chancellor Fidel at this point napat mag-usap-usap natamay sabi ni Secretary Lorenzana what is so special about UP that's right what's so special about UP we should have the same agreement for all universities so that academic freedom and all universities are respected and protected and it's about time we talk with other universities because our concerns are concerns as well alright someone supporting the proposal of Professor Bonsod that there should be association of university professors and so that they could actually be an important voice in deliberations on issues like this dapat daw yung Professor Emerita malaki yung role sa mga advice, sa mga ganitong usapin alright professor ay may red tag na ang lahat nagtamantasan sa buong Pilipinas o o na para makita nila na talaga naman sa lahat ng yayari ito ya hindi unity sa ganyang ano ang gusto kung itanong ke Professor Sol a chakke atternited, ang sabi nila ang universities ang last run part of open free thought and expression and dissent hindi ba, and of course there is the government self-imposed deadline to end the communist insurgency by end of term of President Duterte ang tutok daw ngayon ay mga pamantasan kasi dito na yung huling pilar ng dissent what are you hearing Dean Sol and atternited kasi mukang mas I will defer first to my younger colleague I will defer first to Keny Te kasi baka po siya madaya to si Sol sigy ako na muna I have no idea about that deadline but I think it is pretty clear that what's going on now the consistent red tagging which is apparently now formally a policy a formally a national policy that is actually supported by a budget because of this task force that has been created and is apparently beyond review by the executive branch because no one has basically taken to task those people who have been red tagging even though kita naman na nagkakamalina maling-maling yung mga that policy I think is being laid out as an experiment in relation to UP napag nagsaksi dito sa UP e talagang roll out yan so I think it becomes important that UP assert that hindi pwede mangyariyan kaya tama lang na talagang iigiiit yung academic freedom, iigiiit yung institutional autonomy that is in the charter of UP. It is recognized in the charter expressly passed by congress allowed where congress expressly recognizes the institutional autonomy of UP, academic freedom both as a right and a responsibility of UP and I think again that in solidarity with other universities not just SUCs even private universities which are already on the list of red tag entities yung iigiiit lang that these provisions that minimize eliminate red tagging all of this profiling be mainstream into law because otherwise hindi talaga uubray academic freedom under that environment so I think there have been initiatives by congress to pass loss safeguarding institutional autonomy and academic freedom but perhaps one thing one thing that they can do preliminarily doon sa ating mga kaibigan alumni sa congress both in the senate and the house is to inquire into this national policy of red tagging we know the people who are doing it walawan ang pakundangan they do it, outright mabilis sila magpahiring doon sa mga iba't bang bagay pero ito mismo direct threat to academic freedom direct threat to freedom of thought freedom of expression hindi man lang yata nagpahiring on this particular instance may be that policy which comes directly in conflict with the constitutional guarantee of academic freedom to all institutions of higher learning hindi lang aup, tama si Chancellor Fidel hindi lang up ang special, lahat dapat special because that's what the constitution says this policy is anathematic to that guarantee of academic freedom there are two ways to go about it pwede ang pumunta sa korte pero pwede ang mag-acto ang congreso kung mas mabilis sa congreso doon gawin, if Congress simply legislates it into all the charters of the SUCs and the UP or makes it available to all universities then it's there, hindi na pwede yung lateral yung gagawin I would frame that my answer within those lines Okay, being solved? Alam niyo yung yung sinasabing red darkening medyo asiwa talaga po ako doon kasi sa amang abogado dapat evidence based dapat may evidencia bagong sumaya na isang tao o yan, communista yan anong evidencia, wala naman ako nababasa pangalawa it belittles our constitutional right na yung presumption of innocence nababasa mo na lang umaga red ka na pala hindi mo alam kung bakit ka tapos incumbent na ikaw ang mag-defense sa sarili mo hindi mo alam bakit ka naging ganon so sa akin ang mga nangyayari, lado na hindi sa Akademik Freedom sabit sabit na hindi bakit nagkakaroon ng pagbabawa lang bahala sa ating constitutional rights kaya kung hindi yung tayo manihindigan kaya natatandaan kong panahon ng Dicta Dura pag against ka doon sa ang datin presidente ang sabi ka agad sa yung makakaliwaka kaya takot na takot ang nanay ko kasi pang kasumasao li ako yung panahon Dicta Duran Marcos ang thinking niya web ka na hindi ay hindi ka web nanimindigan kasi may paniniwala now meron lang ako hindi kaninop ko pag gusto sabihin kasi may binanggit po na dahil ang gubyad na ay nagfafan meron ba silang karapatang sabi ang panagawin, ito ang dapat dawin I cannot but help pinabatko paya that with me sending my children to school dahil akong nagpupondo ng kanil ng pagaarang pwede kung gusto li lang magabugad sabiin ko hindi mag-medicina ka hindi ko sila po hindi yung saklawe ng kapangyarihan ng isang binigay ng pera yung taong binibigay mo ng pera kaya mo yung binibigay para maging magaling para lumawak ang pag-ingisip na yun kung sa sabihin mo ito binigay akit ng pera pero ganito ka lang mag-ingisip pagsisikil yun hindi yung pagtunyong isang pamamaraan ang pagsisikil yun na hindi ka kan-danggap-tanggap sa loob ng isang university ok pooch medyo kapos sa tayo ng oras paano po mag-last round tayo may isang tanaw na baka pwede yun ang tutuka ng ating panelist at ngayon galing kay Mariel Makapya knowing all these threats to academic freedom what could an ordinary alumna like myself do and I guess the citizens at large to be in solidarity with U.P. and all universities state universities in the country so siguro mag-parting shots po tayo how could we make this issue common cause for citizens should they care about it at all ay ano po yung magagawa nila para yung round tayo siguro panghuli si Prof. Butch Mamea si Prof. Winnie Muna what can people do why should they care about this oh my goodness if it is not obvious after we have all discussed it at this point you don't deserve to be a U.P. alumna alright but I am saying that the best thing that can be done is to communicate your displeasure and your discomfort with what is going on where do you communicate it to your favorite radio station your favorite newspaper whatever it is because you know what this is going to be a communications battle because that is what happened with Bakarati in the 1950s everybody got red tagging all over the place and everybody was afraid to say no I am not or no she is not et cetera Professors were afraid to defend their colleagues because they were afraid to get red tag we cannot allow that to happen so this early we have to say you are wrong you are destroying my alma mater whatever it is you want to say but say it you have to say it out loud you have to shout it and watch this is the third time I am bringing it up and I will continue to bring it up we have got to get everybody together big task but a very important task ok, see professor Jisen yes I would like to well commend that the U.P. Alumni Association is represented here so it could take a strong stand regarding this is a academic freedom in the university pero tama sabi niya madama Winnie kailangan natin i communicate properly and I always say again, quantitatively yung incidents ng activities sa U.P. na sinasabi nila laban sa society hindi documented or kung meron mga ilang ganyan ay influenza anong percento ba yun na ang faculty or .001% ba yun on the other hand ano naman yung ang kabutihan na nagawa ng U.P. lalo pa during this time of COVID di ba bakit pinapahirapan ng U.P. lalo pa ngayon kung angdami natin kung kaila angdami natin heroes during COVID and let me cite some examples kasi ito talagang you can check the facts for example yung PGH ano ang ginawa niyan during COVID paano nag-respond yung ating PGH director para na makontain niya yung COVID at ma-treat niya ang kadad karami ang mga pasyentin pabukulta doon o yung PGC Philippine Genome Center anong ginawanon nag-recruit yun ng napakaraming student para na tulungan ang gobierno ang DOH, ang RITM para mag-RTPCR alam ko yun kasi yung isang R.A. cost to jante ko overnight na doon sa RITM tumutulong humingin sila ng tulong sa atin o yung UPLB umingiren ang panay ang appeal para maging ano na silang RTPCR testing center pagkatapos ng PGC at ng UPNIH kung ating mga computational scientists niyang nang sila Joma Rabahante at si Maharmangahas hindi nga ba sila yung tumutulong sa pag-determin ng ARNAC at na flattening of the curb o yung namang MSI yung Aking Home Institute yung courageous statements ng MSI kung nga sa Dolomite White Sand nakabasa naman yun sa research and expertise na mga ating mga scientists sa MSI marami pang iba ngayon yung isang ating doctor na tumutulong sa pag test and validate ng antigen test si Dr. Michael T. So maraming tayong mga example na ganyang at I think yun ang napat ihighlight natin in terms of proportion of good things that we can establish being contributed by UP versus itong tinatawang natin speculation or destabilization and all should be communicated effectively to the public to the public. Yes, sir Puch, meron pang salamat po Dean Giselle Professor Giselle si Dean Gany. Siyakin po, indagdag ko nalang we're not really just talking about individual fear we're also talking about individuals using a very prevalent tool such as Facebook. So important din po na ilabas ng intellectuals ng mga Tagayupi ng mga nagmamahal sa academic freedom yung kanilang position at hindi lang pabayaan yung mga bots yung mga trolls at yung mga maypera para bumili na space is partial sa Facebook ang mamayan dito sa discussion. Important po kasi ito because one of the recent years and months at this type of thinking is because people would have access to information only through social media and if we don't become active in social media and put our positions and analysis there and discuss things like this it will be very difficult to get to them especially now that we still have social distancing things in in effect. So important po na magsalita tayo sa ganyto mga forum so social media at kung meron mga pagkakataon magsama-sama at pagpakita tayo na ninindigan tayo para sa academic freedom. Alright thank you Dean Ghani Professor Ted na commute ka po. Dag-dag ko lang doon sa sinabi na no dangalat husay gitingatapang I think that's how we can help. UP has given us the tools the skills during our time in UP no matter how long or how short whether MRRK or child prodigica at na tapos ka na mabilisan within that period of time UP has given us the tools, the skills the attitude the disposition the critical thinking which now we are called to apply how do we do that? It's a war on truth right now so yes we need to stand for that we need to say anong basihan mo pag doon sa sinabi mong yan it's a war on accountability no one's being held accountable for all of these untruths disinformation and so if we are in a capacity to do that to make people accountable hold them accountable administratively, legally hold them accountable for their untruths in the public forum in the public sphere then we should do that it's a war on excellence arguments that are mediocre are being bandied around as truth papayagan ba natin yun? that's what we believe in honor and excellence it's also a war on honor because right now there's so much lack of integrity that's going around and so gusto ko lang iframe yung kaya nga gawin ng bawat individual UP alumni alumna doon sa apat na salitang yun giting atapang dangal at husa huwag natin kalimutan yun very good thank you okay, si professor Sol din Sol I concur sa lahat ng sinabi huwag na huwag sa aking pero kong tingpang panuhu tayo makakatulong think act and live like a UP student be aware of what is happening know the facts analyze make a stand love the truth that is atatak ng UP we honor excellence by living the truth we honor we honor not only excellence but integrity when we honor the truth we were wired that way and therefore we should act that way alright thank you very much din Sol si professor Butch siguro bak parting siya katapos may announcement ako yung susurod natin webinar na sigurado babantayan ulit ng ating mga participants professor Butch papansinin ko lang na kapag atataka ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan sa ating mga guru at mag-aaral ay siyang ginagawa naman ang pamahalaan ng komunist ng China sa kanilang mga mamamayan what can you do the best way to the best way to defend academic freedom is to use it express yourself wherever you may be in this world whether you're here or in San Francisco UP lives in you the university is in you so you do not have to be in UP to to exercise the spirit of academic freedom alright marami salam professor Butch may announcement po kami ito poong webinar series na to ay ilang linggo magtutuloy-tuloy to wing web best one to three p.m sa susunodong web best ang ating poong naka-schedule usapang KP kalayaan sa pamahalaan sa pamantasan mga artistang bayan Pak Ganern at medyo confirm na po tayo sa mga susunod na panilis natin si Dr. Nick Chongson Dr. Glesy Atienza Dr. Cecilia De La Paz si Mr. Chris Miliado si Toim Imao yung gumawa po ng barikada at si J.K. Anicoche so wagunin yung kakaliktaan wing web best one to three p.m ito po ang usapang KP kalayaan sa pamantasan at ito sa inyo na mga organizers na susunod ang University of the Philippine System UP Office of the Vice President for Public Affairs led by Vice President Neni Berna UP System Alumni Relations Office UP Information Technology Development Center TV UP at UP Alumni Freedom Project kasama po doon yung mga na red tag na alumni na napagkamalaan So ako po si Malu mga haas adagpapasalamat po kami sa lahat ng ating panilis at mga dumalo hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas kundi sa ibang bansa Meron huyat ang echo seminars na gagawin ng UP Alumni Association sa San Francisco Fantastic At yung challenge niti Tawini Organize the University Professors Meron ng closing credits makikita ninyo yung mga tao sa likod ng production na ito We were live on Facebook and YouTube at pwede pungmanod muli dun sa mga medyo na huli sa panulood Maraming salamat po sa ngalan po ng ating mga organizers at panilis at resource persons Magandang araw Thank you so much