 Question is from caffeine and counseling. Do you recommend taking body measurements or is this a waste of time? I actually like body measurements more than the scale. And the reason why I like body measurements more than the scale is because oftentimes you get a client that you'd be training for a little while and the scale wouldn't move that much. Maybe a couple pounds and they're like, wow. Everybody keeps telling me I lost a lot of weight. Like how is this possible? The scale only says two pounds. I feel like I'm a lot leaner. Like what's happening is I measure them and I'll show them. Well, you lost two inches here. You lost three inches there. Muscle is dense and fat is less dense. And so a pound of muscle takes up less space than a pound of body fat. Measurements will show you what's going on when the scale may show you nothing's going on. Yeah, it's both sides of that, right? I have a muscle gain goal. Like it's going to show like the muscles if they're actually growing. Like that's a tangible thing that you can kind of lean on or whether or not like you're addressing your body fat issues like in certain areas of your body. It's just another piece of feedback. It's a metric. It's just, yeah, it's another. Personally, maybe when I was really early years I started to, the thing that made me stop I guess, I remember, it was a thing that happened to me. I remember the first time I got really lean and everybody thought I was bigger, you know? And I was like, well, what the fuck? I'm gonna throw that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like here I was measuring my biceps every week. They're shrinking in. Yeah, they all shrinking inch and everybody thought I was more jacked. And I was just like, well, what the fuck, you know? So why am I taking all, why do I care if my biceps go up one more inch if I create the illusion? So I don't know, but I'm the big tracker guy. Like I'm all about tracking everything and I think the more metrics you have, the better insight you have on your body. And I see lots of value to all metrics, especially early on. That's how I, I mean, I honestly, every client that I had like going forward at one point I'm like, I just want to aggregate as much information as possible. So it's reference, you know, points of reference. And it doesn't need to be brought up constantly. Does it need to be a neurotic thing that I'm always like trying to hammer and address? It's just something that like, oh, well, let's go back and let's refer. But let's see where we've come. You know, if this is a question or something that's popping up, you know, I do have, you know, sufficient data to then pull from. Well, you know, as far as like singular pieces of information that can predict, you know, your health or predict, you know, health problems. By the way, no single piece of information is perfect. You want to look at a lot of different pieces of information to get a good picture. But if you had to pick one, one of the better ones is actually waste, waste measurement, just measuring your waste. They find that your health is at risk in men. If your waste measures over 37 inches and for women about 31 and a half inches or more. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I found that's pretty strong correlation. I know Doug, you know, when I train Doug and Doug, do you still do that every morning? Were you weighing? I do, I don't like what I see right now. I can't bring it up. I guarantee it's significantly lower than 37 though. Oh, absolutely. But that's what I did. I measured it every day for a year and a half. Did you really? Yeah. It's a very simple way to measure, because here's the thing, like, let's say you're lifting, let's say you're a man, you're lifting weights, though you're gaining weight on the scale, but you're getting leaner, your waist measurement goes down, even though you're building more muscle. I mean, obviously in bodybuilding, one of the key things that they look for is a small waist with everything else. So measurements are actually a decent way to measure your progress, but by themselves they're not gonna tell you everything, obviously. I just think that, I think all these things are great. There's a lot of people that crack on the tracking and I know right now I got a question the other day on my Q and A about what I think about is counting calories that bad? That's what Instagram is saying right now. Everybody is now jumping on the bandwagon of tracking food is bad or whatever. It's like, everything can become addictive. Everything can become something that you become obsessed with and it could have negative impacts on you for sure. But I think if your approach to it is you're using all this information just to help gain more insight on your own body and how it responds to things and I think it's all good and I think it's good for people to do it at the beginning of really learning but there comes a time where hopefully you figure this stuff out. You understand what a protein is, a carb is, fats, how much your body needs, what happens when you do good on it, what happens when you don't do good on it, you have tracked your body fat percentage enough times to realize that, oh my God, my weight can be at the same weight, which this is why I love this. I've been 220 pounds and had five different, dramatically different looks and levels of health. So weight doesn't, I mean, it doesn't matter that much and that's why I think it's important though to track those things because I wouldn't have known that had I not tracked and it really kind of gives you more insight on, oh wow, it doesn't just matter my body fat percentage or it doesn't matter just my weight or it doesn't just matter my waist or what it measures, you start to put all that stuff together to have a better understanding. And eventually you become in tune and you feel it. You could totally feel it. So this is cool, check this out. So according to the World Health Organization, your risk of metabolic complications such as type two diabetes increases when a man has a waist to hip ratio result of more than 0.9 and a woman has a result of more than 0.85. Explain that? Waste to hip ratio. No, I get that, but what are they showing? They divide the two. So for a man, if it's more than 0.9, your risk of metabolic complications start to rise. Obviously the higher over that ratio the worse and for women it's 0.85. And then a 2011 review of studies showed that waist circumference and waist to hip ratio had a more direct link to health conditions than BMI. So that's why I like, if you had to compare the two measurements, the body measurements are better than the scale. Anything's better than BMI. It's almost, it's so stupid, right? I'm surprised that we even still have those in offices. You're actually obese people, it makes sense. They just needed something simple. You know what I mean? Like boom, here's your BMI. It's an easy measurement. You're just heavy. I don't have to do anything else. And when it was created, I would assume that the population that was truly lifting weights and exercising was probably really, really small, right? It still is. Yeah, right. Right, right, it is. To be lean and have a high BMI is still pretty rare to the point where if you get life insurance, you have to tell them. You have to tell them. You call them when they say you're height and weight. Oh, but I'm athletic. But I have muscle. Well, I remember that's one of the reasons that we like, remember when we used to work with Health IQ, that was one of the great things. They're like one of the few insurance companies that like take that into consideration that nobody's really looking after these people that actually work out. Totally.