 Great. All right. Well, here we are. Welcome everyone. My name is Emily. I'm the local peace economy coordinator here at Code Pink. Just set up my screen right here. Great. Yes, I'm a local peace economy coordinator here at Code Pink. I've been with Code Pink in this role since May. So coming up on a year, which is kind of crazy to me at least. And as many of you know, Jodi Evans, co-founder of Code Pink is typically here. She couldn't be here tonight. So I'll be meeting the meeting and it'll be a lot of like open conversation too. And time for sharing. So, so welcome. And if you haven't already, as I've said, please continue to put your name where you're living or where you are right now in the chat and any other information you want to share to introduce yourself. And as you always have been here before, you know that we always like to start with, with the piece of culture and also a way to ground us as so much of this work is about the internal, internal divestment and the internal embodied experience that we have of ourselves and each other in relationship as we move to the peace economy. So we'll start with the grounding. Welcome everyone who's coming in. Please feel free to put your name and where you are right now in the chat. And I mentioned that joy will like potentially the grounding today it's coming from reduced to joy, a book of poetry by Mark Meepo. And I reached for this today for the grounding because I personally just woke up feeling just a lot of grief for the world as I know many of us have. I was feeling it really poignantly this morning and throughout the day. And so, yeah, I was wondering what what medicine this book had for us today. I'm going to take a breath. This poem is called On the Ridge by Mark Meepo. We can grow by simply listening the way the tree on that ridge listens its branches to the sky. The way blood listens its flow to the site of a wound, the way you listen like a basement, like a basin, and my head is so full of grief, can't look you in the eye. We can listen our way out of anger if we let the heart soften the wolf we keep inside. We can last by listening deeply the way roots reach for the next inch of earth, the way an old turtle listens, all he hears into the patterns of his shell. And part of the reason that that poem felt like it resonated for the topic this evening is because today we're going to, it's a day of harvesting and sharing and listening to our lives in order to learn from our own experience. So that's what we'll be doing today, or tonight. We'll be harvesting what we've been learning and sharing with one another so we can all learn from the collective wisdom in the group and we saw such a beautiful example of that two weeks ago when Macy shared their experience with mapping. I don't know if Macy's here. But if you weren't there, I highly recommend looking back at the recording on YouTube, which I can put that link in the chat. Yeah, Macy shared just a lot of beautiful wisdom about how they've been engaged with local peace economies and in their community and the mapping that they've been doing. So today we're really practicing the pivot of rushing to wisdom together pivoting from rushing to figuring it all out and doing and building local peace economies to taking the time to pause and reflect together and to harvest the wisdom of our own lives. And we've been meeting since the beginning of the year so about four months now. Which, again, hard for me to believe. And I know not everyone has been joining these calls the whole time for some of you it might be your first time. And that's great. And because you have an abundance of experience that brought you here regardless and so I hope you'll lean into sharing during our conversation tonight. And in the spirit of sharing. Jodi and I and just participated in buying years, which you some of you may be familiar with it's a conference a climate justice conference that takes took place this year in Berkeley, California. And it's a super rich site of collective learning. And so to begin, I and Tim, who was there with me as a volunteer are going to share our some of our learnings from our time there. And we'll move into a larger sharing so we can learn from each other. So, so first I want to invite Tim, like I said was a volunteer with me at the conference to share a bit about his experience at the conference so it looks like you're unmuted Tim so thank you. If it's helpful for you all you can, if you're not already on speaker view. You can change in the right hand corner to it's as view. If it's helpful for you to just see who's speaking. You can hit speaker instead of gallery or you can if you want to feel like the collective presence of the group, you're welcome to keep it on gallery view as well I typically enjoy that but. Okay, so Tim. Kind of the first questions I have for you are what struck you that you heard at the conference and what did you what did you leave with. Well, first of all, it was very positive. Like you said earlier about feeling sorrow. There was so much negativity in the world right now Gaza and Trump and and climate deniers even and green economy deniers. So what was interesting to me that was so much positive energy about trying to fix climate change and then and include all people in this journey to leave no one behind essentially in the new economy. So that part was very refreshing for me in positive energy, which we need sometimes to build up our strength to go through the day to day struggle that it's like out there sometimes. Absolutely. Yeah, really speaking to like the power of community and enjoy that's felt in. Growing the community. I think they're very pushing that idea that this whole community needs to grow. We all need to help each other achieve happiness. Absolutely. Is there anything you've heard from any of the presenters or someone that you met there that you want to pass along to the group. Yes, I just to give a quick little bit of background of me. And I've been with code pink eight or nine years now and been involved in the local peace economy for a number of years and there was an active person named Kelly Curry was an Oakland a number of years ago. And she was into making smoothies to give to school children and trying to get nutrition into schools and growing local foods and how that is people in the community need fresh grown local foods. And that really got my interest. And I started looking around and studying about urban agriculture and learning about regenerative gardening and growing so I started a little garden plot. And it now has grown to kind of a small little farm. I'm not quite a farm yet, but I like to call myself that. But at the conference, there was a lot of information about what people are doing in agriculture, not just urban but agriculture in general. So how positive and the science behind it like one of the Lectures I listened to was about how fungus and plant roots talked to each other and and chain exchange the nutrients they both needs, which I found very interesting. But part of the growing the community that we were talking about when I attended a couple of the lectures that one of them was in Oakland was one of the largest urban farms. They always talk about a city slicker farms. I think they're called and it was very interesting to listen to who the founder speak about how her experience of trying to get a farm growing. And I think they're managing four farms now around Oakland. So that was very interesting to listen to her. And then I came across another group called the ecology center. I think that's right. And how they are trying to develop a sustainable community for the East Bay and beyond. And one of the things that they were doing was buying food from local farmers so they can give to families in the East Bay. Area. So that was very interesting. And then I was introduced to another group Tomcat farms out in. Pescadero, California, which is right on the coast, who is trying to get small farmers together to grow food for the schools. So this was expanded my. Village or map really of what is going on in the Bay Area as far as local growing food for the local community. So it was all very interesting to me. And grew my knowledge as well of the urban farming community here in California, North California. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. I'm hearing to like really big pieces in what you're sharing of that we've talked about already in the past is inspiration and how we get inspired by stories and also mapping. And something you shared with me when you were just when we were talking one on one about your experience at the conference is you said the map gets bigger all the time. And I just I love that quote. It's just a matter of, you know, paying attention and putting yourself out into the community and I'm wondering if you want to share anything about your process of mapping because I know you engaged a lot with that and in your community and how the conference kind of added to that. Yes, I mean, I, let's just add more to it. I mean, I was aware of the Oakland farm. And I live kind of, I'm in San Jose, which is the south of the Bay, where Oakland's at the top of the bay. So I, they call South Bay. So I'm pretty familiar with what's around San Jose and up the, up the coast, up the bay a little bit. So this expanded North Bay for me and even out to the coast. So, Yeah, it's, what's that old term. About, I can't think now, but it's, it's your contacts develop more and more as you're out there every day. So it. So, yeah, first I thought it was kind of a small community to this urban farming community, but it's getting larger all the time. So that part is exciting really. Great. Yeah. Are there any like new connections you're excited about making as you as you expand your, your knowledge of who's doing what is out there. I'm definitely going to contact the Tomcat farm and see what, what they would like to do. I mean, how the, what they're proceeding because the USDA does have a program trying to buy farm from local farmers to sell the school. So that'd be interesting to see what they're planning on doing, because as farmers, you do have to sell to make money. They can survive. Be a productive farmer. So if we could sell the schools, fresh fruits and vegetables to our local schools, that would be very rewarding. Yeah. Anything else you want to share with the group. Yeah, one. Spiritually, I like to pray to the great mother. Earth and at the, at the final session, they had a native woman, I think she was from the planes. And she was going to offer a prayer for us. And what she said that the simple prayer is Mother Earth is good. And she sang a beautiful song, basically saying that Mother Earth is good. And I found that really uplifting as well. I know that personally, like I said, I prefer the Mother Earth as opposed to male warrior God that currently being worshiped now. But anyway. Yeah, thanks for bringing that in Tim and like the spiritual component or that language doesn't resonate with you. Just that connection to our home, which is the earth that we talked about we talked about. In the first page in the workbook, pretty much that economy means home and how we how we manage our home or how we care for our home, which it collectively is there. So I definitely felt that presence to at the conference of there was a there's a large indigenous presence there and centering the indigenous experience and leadership happening in the climate justice movement, in the that relational aspect that is so necessary that we talk about peace economy being relational instead of transactional and extracted with the earth. So, yeah, thanks for naming that Tim. And thank you for sharing your experience. It was just personally, I just want to share with the group. It was so lovely to get to spend time with Tim and hear more about how he's living. He's a local piece economy in his life and he really is and it's like super inspiring to me. And with that too I just want to, before I share a little bit about my experience as well I just want to say if there's anyone who wants to as messy did and as Tim just did if there's anyone who wants to speak about a certain aspects of local piece economy, like a certain topic in the workbook or something you're learning. So if you have any of these calls and share with the group I would love to love for more of that to happen to again be I know we were learning from each other in the breakout groups but if you're wanting to share in the larger group as well that is very much welcome just send me an email. If you have emails in all of the, the invitation emails that go out and the follow up emails, or you could email piece economy at code pink dot org, and would love to. Yeah, support you in doing that if that's something you'd like. Great. And so yeah I'll share a few learnings as well. And then we'll go into our smaller groups. And the two one little thing if we have time I'd like to hear what people are doing. They know about the urban agriculture in their area. Yeah, why don't we do that now actually before I just stay on topic. Thanks Tim. But yeah that was it that was a question that Tim wanted to bring to the group but what do people know about what's happening in their urban agriculture world in their noble communities. So feel free to raise your hand or come off mute. Francis. Hello everyone Francis she her pronouns on the board of activists San Diego and do a lot of intersectional organizing. And in what I know of is food shed, which is based in city heights, which has a storefront where people can buy fresh fruits and vegetables. And they also do farmers markets and whatnot and they also like have just a community, you know, mission. And through them I've heard of and connected to like people doing a lot of like wildflower farming there's like a little shop that opened up. I don't know if you guys know Nate's garden shop, which is a great little cafe as well. The board of that in that same little parking lot is this little flower shop of women run POC women run flower shop and they do local flower farming, and then through food shed. They can connect with a lot of different organizations and active of San Diego is a endorser of the kale festival. So every year in San Diego for this will be this this September 21 Saturday will be the from nine to one will be the seventh one. It's a break in coven with the kale festival brings together a lot of different people who are well it celebrates kale, first off, and the planet and the earth and the life giving food. And it brings together folks like the rare fruit growers. There's the national city feed library. There's, yeah, so things like that. That's what I know. Interesting. Thanks so much Francis there's a lot of things that I want to make sure the ecosystem map. Yeah, if anyone wants to get involved in the kale festival organizing the first meeting is going to be Friday, April 19. I believe I won't be there but it will probably be at the peace center. The church of the brethren and the, he has no the peace resource center has the space next in this whole little complex but the friends meeting center as well. It'll probably be there. But if I'll put my contact in the chat so if anyone wants to get involved in that just let me know. Please do and can you remind us what city are you in? San Diego. Is this a national call. I wasn't sure. Yes. Okay, is anyone here in San Diego by show fans. We're near to San Diego. No. No, I see surely who's up for the Bay area. I know. All right, well good to see you all if you guys know anyone who's in San Diego. We also have. We're going to say public power campaign going on. All right. Okay. Enjoy. What would you like to share about the urban agriculture scene? Well, um, um, I wanted. So I, uh, with our city on spill Alabama does have a botanical gardens. And at the botanical gardens, there's a community garden. And now that's wonderful and good and all that kind of good stuff. I wrote to them. They're also doing a huge project on the other, like on the south side of town. Uh, that's, uh, um, called John Hunt Park. It's got a lot of, uh, like pickleball courts and, and they're doing a lot of planting trees down there and stuff like that. And so I wrote to the city and I said, why don't you put a community garden down there? And they wrote back and said, well, there's already one at the botanical gardens and we don't need. Yeah, you know, but I am happy to report that lately it's been on a lot of my radar that, uh, there, there is a community garden up at Alabama A&M University on the north end of town. That has been getting a lot of support from like the county commission, I think gave them some money. Um, and the city, I think also gave them some money. And so I'm anxious to get up there and check them out. And of course I have a garden in my backyard and the arugula was fabulous this spring. Um, uh, um, I am would love to set up an urban land trust, um, like they have in cooperation Jackson. Do you guys know about cooperation Jackson? No. No, gosh. Well, there, there's a huge website. You can find them everywhere. There's they have two books out about what they're doing and a rewrite and all that kind of stuff. I highly recommend looking into what they're doing and they do a lot of urban gardening and, you know, trying to be self sufficient food wise stuff. I would love to start an urban land trust here. Uh, that would, you know, be like cooperation Jackson with housing and land and what do you decide to do with the land, you know, and to me, a lot of what you need to do with the land is gardening. Okay. And, um, I don't know. I'm trying to find lawyers and stuff to, to figure out how to do this. If it's, if it just starts with my house, I'm fine with that. You know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. But there's my, my thinking about urban gardening type of stuff. There's a lot of help from the cities that local governments are really looking to expand urban agriculture in communities. Yeah, to help. They're really putting the state. Did you catch the part of my story where, where I said, when we need another community garden, they went, oh, we've got one. We don't need it. Yes. But it's there. I mean, I would look at your city, your state, your county, because the USDA and part of the green economy is really pushing, you know, the Biden bill is really pushing trying to get urban farming going. Going across the United States. So I reached out to look there. County and, and, and see, I'm sure there's some program there in your state. I'm sure the state at the state level, there's something for sure. Federal level as well. Okay. I'll also put a resource in the chat. It's called the sustainable economies law center. I'm not sure if they have like what you're looking for, but they I see them around a lot in the global peace economy solidarity economy work so I'll put them in the chat. I'm surely would you like to share and then we'll move on. Yeah, okay. This was probably pre COVID but I recollect and I just, you know, while people were chatting I went online to see if I could find it. But here in Oakland, there was some, you know, some group. Perhaps they were young people out in East Oakland. And what they were doing and they might have also been in LA. They were letting people in their front yard, take out their lawns and turn the lawns into a garden. The idea was because it would be, you know, facing the street if someone walked by, you know, and they saw strawberries they could, you know, help themselves to strawberries. I mean, there was no restrictions but the idea was that, you know, the water waste for the lawn could actually grow many edibles. And, you know, people, I think we're getting very excited about it but I don't know what happened as I say I think it was before COVID so it might have not continued. Francis, do you want to share. I can give you an update on the project that he was talking about. Yeah. It was, I believe that project has survived that project did get media. And it was, I believe, when I connected with them they had a booth at the Los Angeles. This is Los Angeles we're talking about. Correct. Was that where was she talking about it at. Sorry. Alabama. Alabama. Okay. That was joy. Okay, well, yeah, if she's talking about the one, well there was one in Los Angeles that I'd seen that they have a booth at the Los at the Hollywood farmers market. And they have like the articles have been written about them there. And it's been from when I connected them which was definitely mid pen mid to late pandemic. It seemed to be a really thriving program. And, and I'll just throw in in San Diego I'm not sure if the other places that are doing it, but something awesome I've seen here is nonprofit that gets volunteers to go pick fruits from people's trees. And meanwhile, like completely cleaning up their yard and garden to make it look beautiful. For free. And then they get that fruit over to food pantries to be distributed into that system. And so it's a really great sort of circle of support. Because the homeowners love that their lawns are getting cleaned for free, and that it's going to give you some that fruit's not going to waste because down here in San Diego we have a ton of others also Southern California there's so much fruit going to waste just on everyone's in everyone's yards. Yeah, I agree that up in the same thing. Yeah, sounds like there's lots of lots of cool products going on and thanks for surfacing that that Tim. Just to keep us kind of in the flow of time make sure we have enough time for breakout rooms and everything will move on. I'm going to share a little bit about my learnings that I want to pass along to the group from vineyards and then we'll do breakout rooms and large group share. So, I want to share two learnings from two women. In particular that I heard speak up by nears. The first is collect peace on battle and collect is the co founder and vision initiative partner at tackroot earth. You may be familiar with them. They are on the ecosystem. They're on our website, and their mission is to build power and cultivate solutions among frontline communities advancing climate justice and democracy, and their work is rooted in black liberation. And I wish I could share her whole talk with you and I believe that by nears will edit all of those talks and share them publicly so I'll keep an eye out for that and if that even when that does happen I'll share it out in one of our emails. But yeah, it was just, it was, it had me in tears. But what struck me, one of the things that struck me about her talk among many was the way she spoke to the need to transform ourselves as we work for change and for transformation. And that's a theme that we've talked about, obviously, and she called us to really look in the mirror, and as we try to bring people into the movement for climate justice to really ask ourselves who are we asking them to join with. And to me her words really reminded me of the pivots that we've been talking about and working with and underline the importance of shifting our ways of being and relating as we cultivate local peace economies, because the war economy lives in us. And if we don't do the work of pivoting away from war economy habits will continue to recreate it, even if our intentions are otherwise. And it can be really seductive and exciting to focus so much on the external labor that's needed to grow local peace economies and that excitement is like so beautiful I mean I'm feeling so excited just like hearing about all these projects on the call. And excitement comes from oftentimes like a feeling of authentic connection and authentic community that we're starved of in the war economy, and amidst that. We can't forget to do the internal divestment or the pivoting needed to be able to bring about something different in the world and that's something I really heard in her talk and just wanted to pass that through. Another thing I heard from her is the need to visualize all different types of labor as we shift away from the war economy. And I just wanted to share this quote from her talk. She said, let's reimagine labor. Let's visualize what labor really is. Let's talk about what kind of labor it takes to make sure a baby is raised correctly, or that communities are hugged. There is labor happening all the time. Let's redefine this. This speaks directly to what we're doing when we're cultivating the local peace economies because we're told this lie that the economy is the stock market, that it's the banks, that it's the labor that we're paid for. But it's really this wide web of relationships that we're part of that help us be well and get our needs met collectively. So much inspiration. I'll put her the website for Taproot Earth in the chat momentarily. But first I want to share one more learning from a woman at the conference named Pat McCabe and I'm just going to read a little bit from her bio on her website. She is named as a DNA or Navajo mother, grandmother, activist, artist, writer, ceremonial leader and intentional speaker. She has a voice for global peace and her paintings are created as tools for individual earth and global healing. She has been a part of the indigenous sciences of thriving life to reframe questions about sustainability and balance, and she is devoted to supporting the next generations women's nation and men's nation and being functional members of the group of life and upholding the honor of being human. And what I want to share is a quote that I heard from her that I keep thinking about and coming back to you. I believe that she's come to understand that it's her responsibility to ask, are we placing life at the center. And if not, we must begin again. I'm going to say that one more time just to let it land. Are we placing life at the center. If not, we must begin again. And I believe that question if I'm remembering the context you provided correctly came to her through ceremony and through her own spiritual work and journey so I don't want to claim that question for myself or for any of us here. And I also wanted to bring it to the group because it felt so centering to me. And like it can really ground and cut through so many of the distractions at the war economy. The war economy offers us as we call us even as we do the work to cultivate local piece economies because of the ways that the war economy lives in us and pits us against each other through these addictions or habits that we talked about in the pivot so just wanted to offer that wisdom from Pat McCabe to the group as well. And I think it's time for breakout rooms. When we're in one in the breakout rooms I'll put those two websites in the chat Pat McCabe's website and taproot earth. But I'll get us the breakout rooms and the question for the breakout room. Again, I'll put this in the chat and broadcast it as well. So with sharing and harvesting collective learning. What are you learning along your local piece economy journey, what has surprised you, what has been challenging and what has been joyful. So I will see how many people do we have here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Okay, I will do five groups. So probably with two or three people. And please keep your, keep your time just to make sure that everyone has time to speak and feel free to introduce yourself again and share where you are. And we'll have 15 minutes. And I'll call you back. Welcome back everyone. Just a reminder to please meet yourself you're probably off coming back from that. So we'll have a breakout room just to reduce background noise. And yeah, we're going to open up for large group shares before I do just because I know, you know, as we get talking and then it gets to the hour and some people might have to leave right at the hour. I just want to share a couple links. So everyone has the opportunity to see it. I don't know if you all know, but code pink has a radio show and we just did a radio show episode about the local peace economy. And we sounds like looks like some of you have heard it and there are some little snippets of more interviews from Bioneers as well as I interviewed Jodi about local peace economy so I'm going to put that link in the chat for the radio show. The one right there is episode 242. Hope you all enjoy it if you take a listen. There's so many incredible people at Bioneers so you'll get to hear from a few more people. There's a panel tomorrow that Jodi is going to be on with the peace economy project about transitioning to the peace economy. So if you want to register for that that's tomorrow morning and an email one out tonight as well with that invitation link if you don't get it in the chat. So we're going to have our local peace economy group which I'm guessing many most if not all of you are on since you're here and then the last link I'll share really fast is just the link to register for our next call in two weeks. And with that. Yeah what's alive for you what are you learning what did you hear from other people that you want to share what's what struck you about your conversation. Feel free to raise your hand or come off mute. I think one is still here. About things to do with gardens since we were talking about community gardens and and hearing about what other the other two people who were there what they're doing and what's is very nice to chat with each of them and to share ideas together. Very good. What's what's one idea that you shared or that you were shared with you that that's that you're holding on to So I was talking about we we used to have a small pot of land here at an apartment complex where where I live and there were a number of people who wanted to have gardens on that lot of land and the management said okay you know you're just going to have to take care of them yourselves. Get the water and whatever else you're going to do in there so so that was very nice. Yeah, that was a nice experience. Did you get to know people out there and you get to eat some nice fresh food too. Thanks Marjorie. Just want to say that I just put a link in the chat. I encourage everyone to check it out. Actually, San Diego has a monthly community meeting. Often it's hybrid now. And last month we had all the local groups that are organizing for south of ceasefire and Palestinian liberation. We had them reporting on what the different groups are doing and Jodi Evans was able to join us. And she her words of course once again were incredibly powerful and moving and I highly recommend watching it. Even if you just watch the part where she's at it's it's really powerful. The whole thing is great but just want to recommend checking that one out. Thanks for sharing princess. I'm just going to save that link for myself and save the chat. Anyone else want to share I'm also curious if what are people learning about their own process with the pivots. If that's alive for anyone right now. Is there a pivot that you're working with that you're learning about where your resistance is or where it's alive in your life. Princess I'm not sure if your hand is still raised for this question or not. So if it is feel free to come off mute again but or as far as you want to share as you're muted. Thank you for asking that. No, I had a very good experience with excellent people but I can't express myself very well but thank you. I'm being recorded. I don't like that. So I'll speak. I had a I thought the mapping was very interesting. I did a map which was a series of you can see it here series of circles because for me peace is very central to my workers and artists and an activist and I was telling Marjorie and the gentlemen from West Africa who was in our little group that I am about to do on Earth Day which is on April 22nd to do a ritual performance on the Pradzab center where I live where I'm going to be it's a peace courtiers of the world which I have done before for Iraq or Ukraine last year and but this year I'm combining because my work is all about peace whether I do an environmental work or more politically oriented work. So I feel that there is no flourishing of our Earth without none with that with violence. So we need to stop the war so that so I'm able to combine the two but I love this this drawing because you know I said well yeah peace is really central all my work in my community in the Earth and in the world so that was very helpful. Yeah that's what I have to share. Thanks Dominique thanks for sharing your map yeah for those of you here with us two weeks ago we talked about mapping so if anyone wants to share their map now or later on even if it's under a call if you want to email it to peace economy at coping.org we'd love to see it. I think we might have time for one more share if anyone wants to share and also I'm not sure your name but I see iPhone is putting lots in the chat so thank you for that. Francis has her hand up. Yes Francis did you want to share again or is that hand from sorry that was from previous. iPhone man my name is Jello. I have posted some ideas I don't know is a stand for you. Yes there's a lot there so I highly encourage people to take a look at that and save the chat and I'll save it as well. Anyone else last words. Joy. Okay I'm going to hog the mic again for a second. I'm just I want to admit that. You know I show up here because this is good community and I need to hear people you know like minded people. But boy I just work a lot and I have had I'm working on my workbook but I'm only a few pages into it I haven't even gotten to the pivots. But in our small group today I said you can tell me what I would like to see is a pivot and maybe it's already in the list I know I read them before but I can't remember what they are okay. From what I see as this energy density sort of economy or activity to a more hands-on human powered interactive closer to home type thing and by energy density I mean you know like production and stuff that requires vast amounts of fossil fuels and to ship and to grow large scale and all of that kind of stuff. So there's a thought about pivots okay. Thank you Joy I appreciate that and yeah that list can always grow and evolve and as we continue to learn so yeah I'll pass that on to Jodi as well. I would like to speak to that point. That's why growing local food is important instead of growing huge fields then ship putting them on trucks then shipping them halfway across the country. That's why the local peace economy or growing local food is important. Absolutely. I love local food tonight I loved it. Well I know that we're at the top of the hour and so some of you may need to go but I just want to thank you all for the rich conversation I hope it was rich and juicy in your breakout rooms and yeah I hope that you come back in two weeks or join the panel tomorrow and listen to the radio show if you need anything from us you can email I'll put it in the chat real fast. Peace economy at code pink.org and yeah I just really appreciated hearing from so many of you tonight and again if there's anything you would like to speak to in the group during one of the meetings during a large group share like Tim did like Macy did two weeks ago please let us know would love would love to have you share and bring more of your voices in more consistently and Frances I see your hand but I'll just kind of formally close it here so people feel like they can go and we'll see you in two weeks hopefully have a great two weeks.