 We're joined here by Jacob Jax, magician extraordinaire, resident of Las Vegas now. That's kind of a stretch. So Jacob, how you doing? I'm great man. How are you? I'm doing well. So now which Tam is this for you? This is my fourth Tam. Tam 7 to 10? 7, 8, 9, 10, yeah. Okay. Matt. And you're a professional magician? Yes, I make my living that way. So that's what that means right now. And where could people catch your show? Which one of these hotels? Bali's Hotel and Casino, but I'm a street performer. So I'm actually out front of Bali's gathering crowds doing my show for tips. So there's a lot of magicians. Obviously Tam is, you know, started by James Randy, magician. What is in your mind magic and skepticism? Where is the correlation? What do you think? Well for me magic, learning magic helped me become a skeptic because you learn that it's very easy to fake very convincingly things that look like miracles. So when you see that it's like maybe the guys that are doing miracles aren't doing miracles. So that's what Randy figured out. And he figured out that magicians are some of the best people, at least he as a magician is one of the best people to find when tricks are happening, not necessarily scientists. So that's, no. So what do you look forward to at Tam? Let me ask you this. What do you enjoy most about Tam so far? The talks and all the stuff are fantastic and I love going to him. But as my fourth Tam, the best part is seeing 1600 skeptics all together. I've never been around so many like-minded, wonderful people. So it's really a joy. Very cool. Jacob, thank you very much for joining us here. Oh, I almost forgot. You got a website, don't you? Yes. What is your website? JacobJax.net. That's J-A-C-O-B-J-A-X.net. And my thumb also comes off. Check them out on the web. Thanks Jacob. Cool. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.