 It is time to get the scoop with shams. I know you recently had Kyle Kuzma and spoke with him for the athletic. Give us your biggest takeaways from that conversation. His brass confidence like this guy is very, very confident in his ability. He does not shy away. He feels like he's a star in this league and he feels like he was a shelve himself in LA. He goes to Washington and now he's the third 20 points per game score on this wizard team has been kind of a co-star with Bradley Beale, Christos Prozingis. And so for me, our conversation was really about his opportunity to grow. But I also looked at the bigger picture, like, what does this mean for his future? Does he become a guide that the wizards explore because he does have a player option for $13 million in the summer? Do they explore what's out there for him or do they just hold on to him? Prozingis also has a player option and two teams I would look at that could have a level of interest in him, have expressed interest in him, Atlanta and Phoenix. The wizards also have talked to Atlanta at times about John Collins. So could there be some synergy there? We'll see. Right now, the wizards want Cousin to be a cornerstone of part of their future moving forward. But I'm told when I talk to teams around the league, the number that keeps coming up is somewhere in that $20, $25 million per year range for him on a new deal potentially this offseason. I mean, going to Phoenix would be amazing for him and also shout out John Collins constantly a part of every trade talk forever. What do you think, though, do you feel like this could happen or is it just more talk? Well, I think this is something that the wizards are going to have to figure out. Like, is this a guy that you want to continue to build around because you know that there's a price threshold you're going to have to get to to retain him. It's going to be 20 or more. So they're going to have to make a decision getting close to the trade deadline. Is that a route you want to go with? Or do you go with a guy like John Collins, who's already under contract for multiple years after this year, I believe three years after this year, 25 a year. But right now they want Kuzma to work. They want this big three that they've formed to be formidable in the east. All right. I want to hear what you think, Chandler 2025. Do you keep him? Do you trade him? What do you do with Kuzma? I think they keep him just because it's not really a destination. No one really wants to go there. I don't see them getting much better, but yeah, ignorance is bliss with him. He's got a competency, thinks he's a star. I don't know that he'll ever be an all star. Is he going to get a bag for sure? He's played great. He's got size. He can handle. He can shoot the ball. I like him on a team like Phoenix, where he's got other players around him. And he's, you know, I liked him on the Lakers, and now I don't like him so much. It's kind of like one of the guys on the wizard. It's just kind of how it goes. But yeah, you put Devin Booker next to him. He's a lot better. You put him on the Hawks with that much talent. He's very good, but I don't think he's ever a one or two option on a championship team. I don't ever think he's an all star, but he's going to get paid. He's going to get $100 million. And he deserves it. He's playing well. He's versatile. He can do a little bit of everything. And yeah, the dude is confidence and he's confident. And he plays hard and it's funny. He played a little bit of the right way more in LA. He still takes some crazy shots, but now in DC, he's kind of, he's getting even more confidence. He knows that. Listen, he's ever been 20 points of the 10 seed. Like it's not act like he's absolutely killing, but he's playing better and he's, he's going to get paid. I agree with Chandler and the, the best, the best place for Coos is somewhere averaging like 14 points on a contender. He's grown as a defensive player. He's 27 years old. He's, this is the best deal he's probably going to get in his career. I think one thing to keep in mind is with the new TV deal coming in, his deal will age well. The new TV deal will change the BRI smack dab in the middle. It's contract and it'll look a lot better. What I do wonder and what I do think is great team building is you let a guy play up to this contract on your team. If you're not a contender, you let him walk. You don't want him to be the centerpiece of your team. But if you are a contender and you have the space to add somebody, maybe somebody like the Pelicans can add him and he becomes a piece for you. I think that's a great ad. So it's, it's all about situation. Somebody's going to pay him. I think he's, he's worthy of the contract. You know, I wouldn't make him the centerpiece of my team, but a complimentary piece at a nice price. Yeah, that can push you over the top. Look at what Andrew Wiggins did last year. And we've had a host of those guys over the history of the NBA. So I think Chandler's dead on. But that's the, that's the problem, right? Teams pay guys of what they've done or what they're doing, not what they're going to do. And they, they did it with me. I had great years in my freezing years. They paid me and it didn't, it didn't really pan out for them. I can see that being similar. I can see them that being similar for Kuzma, the guy, he's, he'll put up big numbers. He'll have big games, but I just, I don't see it as a, you know, on a contending team. Like, like Eddie said, he needs to just kind of be that everything guy, average 15, five and five. He doesn't need to be the guy that's going to get 30 or averaging 20 on a bad team. I think the more talent and the better team he's on, the better Kyle Kuzma is going to be. I love when we get Chandler confessions, just randomly thrown into the show somewhere in there. Shoms, I know this is our Friday here being Wednesday. We will, we will see you Monday. Have a great rest of your weekend weekend. Thank you as always. Chandler, Chandler, Chandler, Chandler. You know what? I like this segue, by the way, because we're going to talk Washington wizards. It's panic button time. This is perfect timing. They're three and seven. They're last 10. If we're going to talk about whether they're contenders or not, this doesn't look great. Be all out with a hammy. If you're going to hit the panic button on this wizards team, Eddie. Yeah, a little bit. And for what a lot of what we just mentioned, they have two incredibly tradeable players and Christos Porzingis and Kyle Kuzma. And people are calling. Shoms reported it. Phoenix is interested. Atlanta is interested. I'd imagine there's other teams as well. And the same thing for Porzingis, as both these guys are on expiring deals and they're set to get hefty raises. This isn't a contender by any means. So do you triple down with these three guys and say, yo, we'll be the sixth seed forever? No, that's not the best way to build a team. Maybe not panic today, December, December 7th, but you have to you have to assume coming up on the deadline, those guys that be looking to get rid of, get something for those players before they walk for nothing. Yeah, I love Leon Siss. He's a smart guy, but this just this can't be my team going forward. They're never going to win with these three guys. It almost feels like Brad just kind of got the bag and now he's just kind of hoping to get moved to to a team that he actually wants to be at. And but Porzingis is playing very, very good. And like we just talked about who's my he's balling. So I think if I'm them, I'm making a move because again, they're they're not going to contend, but then on the flip side, I don't know who else they can get. So I'm panicking just because they kind of put their eggs and all these bad and this trio is basket and I don't see it.