 Next question is from Chechi C.R. What do you think about earthing or grounding? Okay, so I like it, but not for the reasons that they say. Okay, so the theory with earthing and grounding has something to do with the electrical charge. Not like what you brought up in the intro. Yeah. So they're digging holes. No, nothing. That's not earthing? No. Okay. What are you doing over there? I'm earthing the ground. I'm earthing it, dude. Yeah, all right, keep earthing. No, it's, so the theory is that you have these, you charged, you know, the earth has a different electrical charge that you put your bare feet on and it balances out the electrical charge. It's good for your body. Something along those lines. I don't think that's why it's valuable. I think it's valuable because the bottom of your feet are full of nerve endings. 7,000. And the brain is connected to all those nerve endings. And because your feet are constantly covered, and that not just covered, but then you got rubber soles on top of them, that part of the brain that processes that atrophies and you lose connection to your feet and lose connection to those nerves and how they feel. So I think walking barefoot on grass and on the ground and on different things is good because it develops the muscles of the feet and it also develops the brain, the connection to those nerves. And I think that's why people see benefit. I don't think it has to do with the electrical charges of the human body. Electromagnetism. Well, since I'm married to the woo-woo girl, I'm not discounting the, what this reminds me of, and I know you'll agree with this, it's very similar to the way massage therapists have been communicating the energy in your body, the way it moves and stuff like that. Variety and all that. So I think the language around it we're just not there yet, exactly all the benefits. I could agree with that. And I agree, the way it got me to get behind it was what you said, right? Cause like you, I have that side of me that's like so anti-woo-woo, but if you show me some science to support, like, like, oh, that's very obvious to me. Nerv endings in the feet, you're not connected to the ground. It's literally like, could you imagine working out in big old snow gloves all the time? Or just always having gloves on. Yeah, exactly, trying to write with a pencil. Do things- You would lose so much of your ability in the- Yeah, you'd be terrible. You would be terrible the way you write. You'd be terrible. Mark Wahlberg's pulling it off. I guess. Yeah, sorry, I hadn't pulled that in there. What the hell, man? So that part is very obvious to me, right? And especially now that, I remember after I met with Dr. Brink and really started to break down my own feet and realize how many problems that people have that are stemming from the feet and that starts with being connected and grounded and being able to actually grip the floor. And if you'd always have gloves on or shoes and socks on, you don't ever train those muscles, right? Yeah, I like it just for being conscious of being able to articulate your toes individually and being able to feel a little bit of a slight roll like in your ankle and being able to adjust based off of the surface. And there's just so much value to that. Like you can think of it as like, you're just at your feet and your muscles and your whole support system there and your feet by always like casting them in these shoes. So these are the physiological things that we know are backed by science that we can all get behind. I still think there's something else there too. There's something about when you take your shoes off and you just walk through some grass or dirt or as the sand on the beach and stuff like that. It's just, it's an uplifting feeling connected to the earth. It connected to nature. And it is a big pitch. And I feel like that's the woo-woo part that they- That they try to explain. That they try and explain. I can get behind that because, I mean, we evolve that way. Let's be honest. We could create, let me give you a different example. We could create a fake sun, right? We could create a lamp that produces all the same UV rays on us, but it would still probably feel different than being out in the sun because we evolved for millions of years touching the earth with our skin. So I could get behind that. There's probably more to it. The part that I explained is the part that I know for sure, right? That I can explain. Yeah, I think it's somewhat of like we're adapting with our environment instead of like trying to create your own environment, to navigate your way through. Instead, you're working with the different terrain of the environment. Yeah, you know, it's funny with these people who, especially modern hunter-gatherers that are still barefoot, we think their feet must be so thick with calluses and numb like shoes. And that's not true. They do have calluses, but their feet are far more sensitive than ours. I don't mean sensitive like they're ticklish or whatever. That's not sensitive. That means we can't process the sensations. That's why we can't handle certain things on our feet. Their feet are much more functional and they can feel things underneath, adjust their weight, adjust their toes, climb things, things that we would have difficulty doing, even with shoes on. So, and here's a deal. At some, you know, now as adults, I'm sure there's a part of our brain that now is permanently never gonna be like it could have been had we always done this as children. Oh, it's definitely. I mean, I've put a lot of work in trying to work on it. And I've come a long way, but I'm still unbelievably disconnected. Look, it's like learning a language in your older. You're always gonna have an accent, right? So, I bet your son though, you can see the difference in your son. Well, and that's what I'm excited, right? I'm excited that, you know, I have this boy that I couldn't, I didn't have the knowledge as a young boy to do this. And I'm watching him. And I'll tell you something right now, like that was obviously there was contention in the family about me pushing that so much. But my son skipped that wobbly, fallen, hit your head face. Like he literally did that. He felt he feels the floor. He had it for like maybe a week, dude. Like a week of when he went from not being able to walk to walking. There was that small transition. He is so unbelievably stable all the time. Like he just, I've never, we haven't had the only one time. Do you remember when we told the story? Yeah, she put shoes on. She put the one time Max has fallen over and bumped his head and hurt himself was the first time that she put shoes on him outside. Dude, I was watching old home videos when I was a kid. And back in those days, doctors actually used to tell moms, when your baby starts to walk, they put very strong supportive shoes on them to help them walk. And baby shoes, they used to make them. They'd have like stiff soles. They'd have those wood they were like. Yes, with a heel on it. And it was like, and they would, you would feel, it would be like like little casts. And they said it was to help your baby walk. Well anyway, I'm watching these old home videos. And there I am as a baby. And I see myself trying to walk in these damn shoes. And I'm like really trying hard not to like get mad at my mom. That's where your athletics went. That's what happened right there. You know what's cool too. This is why we figured it out. You know what I love about it too is that it's, I mean, he's, what is he now? A year, a little over a year and a half. And I trained him so well now that like, I don't feel like I'm ever gonna have to even have the discussion because he hates socks and shoes on. Like he don't even want them on. You don't even have a Ben Greenfield, bro. You don't even want to, sort of. You don't even want them on his feet because you could tell he wants to be, and I love it. You can see his feet working all the time. When he's sitting down in a squat and so like that, I can see his toes all moving around. I'm like, oh my God, dude. Like I feel like that's gonna make such a difference in him later on in life, just with movement in general because he is so grounded and connected. That's awesome.