 If you want to maintain good fitness and health for the long term, try this, manipulate your workouts and your diet so that they fit and modify and improve your life, regardless of the context of your life. All right, what does that mean? Well, if you found that eating a low carbohydrate diet makes you more mentally sharp, well then eat that way before you take a big test or have to do something to require cognitive skills. If you notice you have better performance when you eat more carbohydrates, we'll eat that way before physical performance tasks. When it comes to your workouts, are there workouts that help you relieve stress? Are there workouts that help you get out anger or help you hit PRs? All of these can be used, modified and manipulated to fit your life so that it always makes your life better regardless of what's happening in your life. That's the best strategy for long term fitness and health. The winning one. Yeah. Do you, you know, I was just thinking of like your Jiu-Jitsu purple belt. Wait, say Jiu-Jitsu again? Jiu-Jitsu purple belt. Jiu-Jitsu. Are you trying to pronounce it in a word language? I was just thinking about like, you know, there's levels to this. Yeah. And I think that like to the average person, you know, just getting started. Step one is consistent. Right. Right. But ultimately this is a level you want to reach, right? I think it would be like a really cool thing to do back to the belt analogy. Like if you did something where you wrote belts like at this level, these are the things we focus on. Like white belt don't need processing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I mean. Like so because this is obviously I think key to long term success around nutrition and exercise. It probably seems a little bit overwhelming and daunting to the like maybe new listener or first time like getting into fitness. I don't think you'll master it, but I think the mentality is just the approach is what's important. So you could look at, so in other words, say it's a beginner and they're working out their following routine and they're consistent for let's say, you know, two months and they find that they're more stressed and tired than usual. Well, if they have this mentality, they could go to the gym, do the same workout that they normally do, but then remember maybe they listen to this episode. So like, you know what? I'm going to work out way easier. I'm going to bring the intensity way down so that it matches kind of what's happening in my life right now. So that's really what I'm talking about is a mentality around what you're doing is like when you go in to work out, can you do it in a way towards going to improve the quality of your life in the context of what's happening right now? Same thing with diet. Can I eat in a way where it's going to improve the, like that would mean sometimes I'm going to eat foods that are not, you know, maybe quote unquote unhealthy because the context may be I'm hanging out my buddies and we want to connect and enjoy ourselves. Which one do you think is more difficult to the two? Do you think it's easier for the person who's getting into health and fitness to figure out the nutrition piece on how to adjust it according to how it fits your lifestyle or how to figure out the exercise? Oh, nutrition's harder. Yeah. Oh my God. Well, it's just so embedded in your everyday interactions with your family, with your co-worker. Like you basically, you basically stretch your whole day around nutrition. And then that one sliver is like your exercise piece. So that's usually where I start as a focal point, you know, with brand new people. Yeah, I mean, you guys know the exercise. Yeah. I mean, when we train people, I mean, I didn't touch diet for a while. Modifying intensity is probably where you first start first. Like before we get into getting really, really deep into this, it's just like, hey, learn how to understand that you had a really poor night's of sleep. You're under, you've under consumed nutrients. This is probably not the day that you go crush legs or try to set some PR. This is the day where to go in and go through the motion and like get some just get a lift in maybe practice, maybe move at 50% intensity then going after it, right? That's probably how you would tell somebody to adjust. Yeah, I mean, I went through a long period of figuring this out when I had some really challenging things that happened, you know, that were going on in my life and I just literally went to work out and my workouts were all about maintaining my own health and stress relief. So the workouts were very different than what they would look like. Otherwise they were lighter. I was kind of like just focusing on form. I was doing a lot of walking. I remember when you, Adam, when you had come off of competing and you were trying to get your natural testosterone levels come up for a while. So you were suffering with really low testosterone. Your workouts were completely organized around trying to make yourself just feel good, you know, versus I mean, had you gone after it, it would have totally backfired, right? You know, type of deal. So I think it's the attitude and what it does allows you to develop a relationship with exercise and diet where you can turn to it. So you can turn to it as a way. What's that? What's that saying? Let food be thy medicine, right? So you can turn to exercise. You can turn to diet and you can look at them and say, how can I do these to improve my life right now? Sometimes that means you're going to work out hard and be super strict. You might get lean or whatever. Sometimes it may mean I'm going to use food as a way to relax with my friends, connect. I'm going to use my workouts as a way to, you know, maybe, you know, move, just move my body because it just needs to move right now. And then you develop this relationship that's long term because now, no matter which way your life goes, you can, you can find consistency because it's always making you feel better. Hippocrates, Doug, is that who that is? Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. All right. Today's program giveaway is maps and a ball of advanced. If you want to win that, leave a comment below this video, the first 24 hours that we drop it, subscribe to this channel and turn on notifications that enters you to win. And if you win, we'll let you know in the comment section. Also, trainers and coaches are new trainer courses out right now in its launch season, which means you get a bunch of free stuff and you get $200 off. Check this out. Go to mind pump fitness coaching dot com and use the code 200 off for the discount free maps, programs, free guides, free Facebook forum group. It's awesome. Go check it out. Also, we have some workout program bundles on sale right now. These are multiple mass programs put together and discounted. Each one, by the way, is 300 to $350 off. Check this out. There's a new to weightlifting bundle. There's the body transformation bundle. There's a new year extreme intensity bundle. And there's the body transformation bundle 2.0. All of them on sale right now. Massive discounts maps January dot com. All right, back to the show. Hey, I saw I have an embarrassing thing to share with you guys. Yeah, all right. So I was sweet. I was at the gym the other day, so I went into the golds. I hadn't been there in a while and they have a really great little leg area. First, they call it leg. I think leg land is what it's called. The little section. Yeah, yeah. Have you guys, but you guys haven't been to that gym before. Have you? Which one? It's the golds in Gilroy. Oh, I bet I was a wait a minute. How long has it been? Has it been there for a while? No, it hasn't been. It's pretty it's a relatively new gym. I mean, new as in it's been around for probably four or five years. No, I haven't. Yeah, it's not great. Yeah, it's great. You guys are really like the it's kind of like a room that's just dedicated to legs, which is really cool. So I got in there and it was like, like I felt really good that day. And it's like, I was like, oh, I'm going to get after squats. It's been a while since I pulled out the squat shoes and the squat belt. And I'm going to push some weight today and and eventually, you know, see what, see how I feel, right? And so I'm I'm in there and I'm in my rhythm and I'm weights moving pretty good. And, you know, the first when I'm first, I don't really I won't throw on a belt till I'm pushing three fifteen or above. I'll always try and squat beltless and normally I'll be in my chucks until I'm getting like closer to that, you know, above three fifteen from here right now, which is really heavy from here right now. And so I get I get up to that and I get the belt out. And you know how like when you you wrench down on the belt to get it real nice and snug, you get up against the gate and you tighten it up. And I already the room's kind of busy. It's like there's quite a few people there. All the squat racks are taken. And I'm normally not paying attention if people are paying attention to me, but I had this like embarrassing moment and I was like, oh, fuck, what do I do? My belt, dude, I'm so fat right now. My belt didn't fit on my waist. And I was all black one that you have here. Yeah. And I was already like committed to trying to put it on. So like you've been trying. So yeah, I'm like wrestling. And you know, sometimes it's a little tough on the thing. So I'm probably messing with it. If you get stuck on like a little. Yeah. Yeah. So I get one, I get one in, right? And but I can't get the other one in. And I realize like this shit doesn't fit. I it's on the last loop. So I can't. And so I don't. And so now I'm like in this weird predicament where I've already been wrestling with it for like two. I go get a buddy to help you do it. So I already feel like everyone's staring at me at this point. So I have like one one loop in the other ones. I thought the things all open. I just kind of like throw my shirt over and. Didn't you say that? I still went for it with the thing. Bro, and I did. And I got good weight on there. I was so nervous it was going to pop. I was so no. I couldn't. I was already committed. I already stacked all the weight on. Already like wrenching the belt down and like. Dude, that's hilarious. Bro, I don't even know my move. I don't feel fat. I don't feel like I'm at that point. I know that I've always been on the last two holes. And so I probably should have got a belt that have a little bit more room in that in the first place. But, you know, normally I can. I don't have a problem getting into that. It is, dude, like, like people like you and I who grew up feeling skinny. Our gauge, our gauge of fat is not great. It's not great. Like if I gain weight, I'm just bigger. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I'm heavy and some of them will point out that I do. It looks like especially if I'm because I'm still training and lifting, right? So if I if I get you're so true, it's so true. What you're saying, you know, it still goes back to my deep and securities of being the skinny kid, right? Yeah, yeah, quickly, I feel that way. If I'm not lifting and I put bad weight on because then my my arm shrink, I get skinny, skinny, fat and that will drive me crazy. And I know right away. But if I'm like, yeah, you get a pump and you're, yeah, yeah, I'm lifting still and so I'm building some muscle and I just, you know, dude, I feel like my powerlifting face. That's what I feel like my move would have been like, ah, look at the stare at the belt for a long time and then just throw it down really hard. This thing's broken. I know, dude, I was like, it was just a weird. I know I don't even give a fuck what's going on around me. So with that, but it was just one of those moments where I could kind of feel people looking at me, stacking the weight up and stuff. I was squatting more than anybody around me. So I'm sure they were watching and then I go to get my belt out, you know, and then I can't get it all up to it. And I'd already wrestled with it for long enough that I was like, oh, I said, I do know it's so bad that it's way better now. Because when I was younger, it was really bad. There was a, I had bulked up. The heaviest I ever got my entire life was two 40, maybe a little over two 40 something. So you like right now I weigh to 07. Okay. So let's just picture me at two 40. Yeah. You're down to 07 right now. Maybe, maybe, maybe two 10 something like that. Okay. So I'll flex right between two 07 to two 10 to 12, sometimes a little higher, but then you guys point out my face. So it's a little rough. But anyway, but that's this heavy. I mean, I don't get, I never get up to two 20, right? But two 40 at one point, I bulked up. Now this is how bad it was. I had no idea. I had no idea that I had gotten like, yeah, I just thought I was getting big dude. Oh, yeah. I saw a picture of myself not that long ago. Somebody brought it out and showed me and they said to themselves, like, wow, dude, what happened here? And I looked at the picture and I was like, I was not great. I looked a little obese. Yeah, I was slightly. Yeah. I was probably not obese. I never know. Oh, bro, I was two 40, bro. That's, I think my body fat was, was. 18% for me. I mean, yeah, for you, but that's not obese. No, it's not bad. I mean, that's actually not that crazy. When you think about it, not that horrible for me, it is. Yeah. Yeah. No, I had to push it. I'm right with you. That's about when I start getting the upper teens is when I'm like, that's okay. It's time to go in the other direction. I call it, I like to hover around probably the 13, 14% is probably where I'm most comfortable. Yeah. And then, you know, of course holidays, I'll let my creep, creep up a little bit and then I'll come all the way back down, get down to like 10 or whatever that. And that's kind of where I bounce back and forth. But when I, but I just didn't, I didn't realize that I would even have done it if I thought I was like, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even know. I never know. Unless your body fat. Yeah. The only way I know is like the amount of fat jokes. Like if it's like continuous and like, okay, I think I need to do something. If it's like intermittent, you know, I'm like, ah, see, you think that I've actually unpacked it as like, that's when I'm filled insecure with myself. I call you fat. You son of a bitch. I deflect. I don't know if I'm going to call Justin. He's, he's me a check, dude. So I'm not like a beast. That's not that bad of an embarrassing thing at the gym though. I've done way worse at the gym. Oh, I know. It wasn't like a, like a super, super embarrassing. It was just a recent, just happened to me. Just happened to me and it was like a moment where I'm like, what do you do right here? Do you like mess with it for five minutes? Like I did. And then undo it and put it back in your bag. Like just kidding. No. Or do you do like I do where you just throw it over your shirt and pretend like you got it. We just look at it and kind of say kind of loudly. Oh, I grabbed my wife's belt. Yeah. So this is like Adam the wizard. Oh, the dash on the back. That's your game on the back. That's got his picture of his face. That's not me. So is that your embarrassing fun? No, no, I have it. I have another one for you guys. This one's not that it's not that embarrassing. So you wanted to us to think of. So I told, I texted guys this morning. I said, you guys got a random, random, like, you know, odd or embarrassing thing that you've never shared with each other that you guys don't know. What brought it up was Katrina and I are rewatching Seinfeld. I just, you could get me to watch. I've watched Seinfeld. The Seinfeld. It's a great show. I've seen every show or every episode at least three or four times over. Maybe more. Yeah, yeah, maybe more. It's like one of my favorite things just to like put on the background and like it has so many great, you know how iconic that show was? Like I was in the office are always on repeat for me. I was telling Katrina like that show from, from, for me growing up because it was playing when I was growing up, right? So we actually watched the episodes when they first got released. And my circle of friends, we were such hardcore, sign full fans and into it that much of our conversations, jokes where it was built around that show. Like one of the, one of the things that like you are funny. If you could have watched an episode last night, like that was like a big deal, like you, everyone, you wanted to watch it when it first dropped. There was a one liner in there. Who integrated that into the conversation at school the next day? And like, and then how quick do you pick up on that? Like that was like, that was so much of my childhood. So anyways, I'm telling Katrina that we're laughing about, we're watching and we're watching an episode and there's an episode where Elaine's boss gets this, this piece of art gets delivered to his thing. And it's, it's the 3D art and he's like staring at it for like the whole episode is like cuts back to him and he's still in the office and he's like trying to see you. So, so the reason why I'm sharing with you guys, I Katrina is something that we're random facts. She didn't know about me. And so I'm like, I'm sure the guys don't know this from me. So I can't see that art still. I still, I've never been. And wait, wait, still. Yeah. Bro, I have searched like far and wide for all the tricks. I can get you to do it. No, see, that's what everybody thought that you could actually look it up. There's some people that can't. Really? Yeah. There's a small, there's a small percent. Well, there's, there's, if you have a lazy eye or your cross-eyed, sometimes you can't. Yeah, yeah. Which I don't have either one. I'm like, I don't know, fuck you. I don't have a lazy eye. I'm not crazy. It's lazy. I still, I'm not, I'm not cross-eyed at all. I live totally normal. That sucks when somebody has that though and you're talking. You can't, I mean, you ever have that where you talk to somebody and you're not sure which eye is the one you're supposed to look at. There's a few of those parents. So that, so that, and so some people too, who just have a, like, if they have like a one eye that sees 25 or 20, like really, really good in the other eyes, not just that discrepancy. You have really, really bad eye? I don't think so. I don't know. When you shoot a gun, which eye do you close? Tell me you're shooting a gun right now. My, my right eye. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So you shoot through the, you look through the left. Yeah. So that's probably your better eye then. Yeah, I would assume, right? I mean, naturally you probably do. Yeah, interesting that I mean, like I said, I've like bro, was there was a point where like I spent hours and days and that's what made me remember in the show. Cause he's so frustrated and I go, I've, and obviously Katrina's seen that art too. And I was like, why are you not into conspiracies? I can't see it now. I can't see anything. You got no depth. I can't, you know, it represents a period of time in my life too, when those things were really popular. You were probably so mad. Oh, I was so mad. Because everybody can see it. Everybody can see it. It's a bunny. And everybody would say that, yeah, well, yeah, there was a point where I kind of thought that I was getting trolled, you know what I'm saying? Where everyone's like, oh, they're fucking with me. There's, this is part of the joke. You know what I'm saying? It's like, there's no, there's nothing really here. And everybody would have, everybody who sees it is like, oh, I know you do this cover one eye. Oh, start with a nose like this. Oh, look over. I've tried all the hacks. Weird. Yeah. Never been able to see it. I've never seen any 3D art before. The first time I saw one of those, that was such a popular thing for a second. And they disappeared. Every mall. Well, I mean, yeah, malls don't get that kind of, I guess, attention to things like that. It was just a big thing. I remember Christmas people were getting them as gifts. Huge. The first time I ever saw one, I remember I saw it and they're like, look at this. There's a dolphin on there. I'm like, what? And then like, you have to kind of relax. And I, boom, I saw it right away. And it tripped me out because I was such a young, you know, I was a kid. Yeah. So weird. I forgot about those. I know. In that random? Yeah. All right. I'll give you, this is, I don't know if this is embarrassing or not, but I did, uh, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu combined. You probably combined it for eight years. Part of the warmup is always to do a cartwheel. So, and I've practiced so many times and I cannot. You can't do a cartwheel? Never, never can do a cartwheel, never, never, no matter what I, no matter what. God, you were that on that like halfway, like your feet. Listen, I could Judo, Judo roll. I could do all that, but I can't do a cartwheel. It's just the overhead. Yeah, I can't for sure. You cannot. Yeah. That's gotta look cool. It's, you know, you do, you probably default to like a round off, right? You like, I don't know what I, yeah, what people try anymore. Yeah, we're doing, we're doing cartwheels after this. I read about this. There's some people can't do covers. Kidding. They have a lazy, lazy, lazy leg. What do you got for me, Justin? What you got for me? I mean, it's embarrassing. Um, I've, you guys probably even know this, maybe, uh, I've alluded to it quite a few times because of like all my past like ghost stories and whatnot. But I legit am scared of like closets. And, and like I, I seriously, like it's not like coming out of the closet. No, it's just like literally it has to be closed. Like anywhere I go, like any, like hotel, any, yeah, I don't know why didn't you tell us that, dude? 100% guys. We can't use this against me. I blame you if anything happens. Yeah, but yours is scary. You can't use mine. No, I don't want. So like if you're, you're going to bed at night in your bedroom closet and the door is cracked, it has to be open or being closed. Oh, so you get up and close it up and close it. That's funny. Now you, any door really, I can't have any open doors. Now you, you do realize there's zero logic in that, right? Like. Thanks for the memo, you know, for the memo, Sal. Did something happen as a kid or something that you just. Yeah, I tell you, dude, I'm okay. I mean, everybody has their own opinions about the supernatural. I've experienced a bit of it and some mostly closets. Yeah, in the closet, it always comes from the closet. And it could be just be like a shift of whatever, like something falls. But it's happened way too many times for me to be like, oh, cool. That's just randomly. That's, you know, it's a random thing, not a random thing. Even now, that's crazy. I, for the longest time, I'm cool with it now, but probably up until my mid 20s, couldn't, I had to have my feet covered when I go to sleep. I could not have my feet out at all. They had to be covered. Oh, I don't like my feet out either. Well, really? Yeah, I don't like my feet out either. So even if it's hot, you just, yeah, exactly. That's part of, I can't have it locked in. Part of why I have to have like a bed cooling system and I want it so cold is I like to, I want, I have to be all cut, like covered up. So you don't like to be out? No. Oh, you're always so hot. Oh, yeah. I could not sleep. You can't, I can't just sleep with no sheet on me. It feels so weird. Even a sheet isn't enough weight for me to be really comfortable. I feel secure. I need weight. Yeah. Yeah, it's a scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, and so, and my feet, and my feet are going to be covered too. Do you want to know when I got over it? I was 20 and I was visiting my family in Sicily and we had to stay at my grandma's house. And my grandma's house is in, it's in the city and it's a concrete house, no air conditioning and it's humid. It's so humid, it's not even funny. And at night, and so you're asleep in the bed with the windows open. You might as well not have the windows open and you're underwater. It's so humid. So I got over it real quick and just took everything off. I'm just laying like this. You wake up and the bed was just soaked. Then I got over it and I could sleep without sheets. Oh, wow. Yeah. So no closet, you need to have. No closet. 3D art. Wow. Yeah, yeah, 3D art. I can't do a cartwheel. Hey, did you find out you're the, I see you're the only one who's like Biori Ensemble today is. Yeah, dude. What are the pants you're wearing right now? Coronado. Coronado, did I say it right? Let me look it up. Because I think it's called. Coronado, I believe. I think it'll call. So these are the new, should I stand up so everyone can see? Yeah, please do. Check them out. Check them out. Justin Phil's butt in them. You need to work out, dude. You actually touched it a little bit. No, I like, I like, I like these a lot. They're, they feel, so you know how they have like the, their sweats or not, I don't know if you call them sweats, but like they're joggers. Yeah. And then they have the slacks that I wear a lot. Right. That look like. What are those like? These are like in between it feels like. Yeah. They're almost like nicer. More loose fit, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little comfier. Well, you dressed them up with a polo, I see. So that's, I mean, that's what I was wondering if they were. I like the polos that they have and they have button downs now. I have. I just got one. Yeah, button down. Yeah. Did you wear it? I did. When I was in Texas. Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah. Super comfy. And it's, I like the style. So funny. I was talking to my brother, uh, was it last night? It was last night when my parents were out seeing dinner and he's doing really well. He's a financial advisor. And so he was, you know, I was like, man, you're doing really well and it's good to see how, how good you guys are doing and this and that. And he's like, yeah, man. He's like, you know, once you get past a certain point, you know, he's like, look, I, he's like, I wear whatever. I get to wear a Viori all the time. Do you matter? I'm like, oh, it's like a status symbol now to wear Viori. You know, I use my discount code though. It totally, it's funny. I was talking to Courtney about that. Cause like her sister, like losing Las Gatos and you live there, but like there's a whole like subculture of like moms and soccer moms that all go to these gyms and everything. And their whole thing is these Stanley Cuffs and then they have to have a Viori clothes. It's a status thing completely. Oh, it's, it used to be, at least you lose 11. Now it's, they've shifted. What's up with the Stanley Cups? It's cause they fit, it's cause they fit in the cup holders. So do other things. You know, how did they become a status symbol for girls? Well, they're, they're not cheap. They're, and they, they fit in a. My daughter, which influencer started it? Well, that I didn't know. Yeah, there's probably some, there's, I'm sure it got really popular. Somebody figure this out for me. How did this, the origin of the Stanley cup phenomenon? Yeah. Because my, my 14 year old daughter, Doug's gonna be on NHL. My 14 year old daughter wanted one so bad. So did Doug's daughter. That's why he got her. Didn't you get her off for Christmas? Yeah, she got one. Well, I think, uh, OrganiFi. They sent one out. I mean, it's encouraging them to drink more water. I guess that's a good thing. If it's water in there. But what you got, what you guys got for the origin of that? I mean, you're probably right. It's probably, there's probably something to have. It was some influencer, had you? It can't be one person though. It's like one of those things. It's like, it's where multiple people probably have an. I mean, it makes sense. I would get mad because I was trying to, I think it was one of those like Yeti's where it was just like, you're trying to put it in the cup holder. It wasn't working. That's, so that's one of the biggest frustrations of those big thermos ones. I have a couple of those, right? That like, when we, when we work with Mir and I have some hydro flask one, but they're all big and round where the, the Stanley has a small. It's at the bottom. Yeah, at the very bottom. So you could fit it in like your car. But it's so, they're so smart though, because they've literally, I don't know how they did it, but they've turned it into a statement. Like cause girls want to show that they have a Stanley cup, which is they even made a pink one specifically. That's the one I got my daughter. Okay. Did you find anything Doug? Yeah. I mean, obviously it started in social media. I'm sure it's tick tock. I'm sure that's where Brianna saw it. Yeah. So, you know the long straws by the way, go ahead Andrew. You saw Andrew knows. Yeah. Apparently the brand's been around for over a hundred years. Yep. Yeah. It's all construction workers. It's all construction brand. That's to make staples and staple guns and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Carhart. Hammers. That's probably what it got piggybacked off of is Carhart too. Cause Carhart is, that's over a hundred years old too. It's so funny to see these brands become hip with girls, like young girls. Like what? I know. It's like you're not, I'm sorry, you're not doing steel work. So, what helped them with their success was they promoted it on tick tock and they focused or marketed entirely around women and just highlighting, you know, the features of the cup. Brilliant. How it stays cold. Well, the truth is you have, so Carhart's an example of this, Stanley's an example of this. They're, I mean, they're a hundred year old brands. These are legit good ass brands. They make good ass products. And then, but they're, they're, they didn't make a, they didn't penetrate a certain. Yeah. They didn't cross over into the Gen Z and millennials until recently and that was just, that's good marketing on their part, but they've always had a good product. Like that's, I mean, Carhart in the construction world has been known as some of the best. If you worked on a ranch or did anything in construction at all. Anything outdoors. You know that they have the best outdoor, like apparel and stuff like that. So Dickies were also construction, but how did Dickies become cholo wear? Ben Davis skater. Ben Davis and Dickies. And skaters too. Big time skater. How did that happen? Is it because, is it because when you hit the, you hit the ground or whatever when you're skater, it didn't make holes in it and stuff? Yeah, I don't know. Like, yeah, I don't know if that was the case because like if you wear jeans, you know, you shred it up and you can't like do, yeah, there was some kind of like movement thing with that. But I think for the most part, it was just the style of the time. Just a look. Yeah. Anyway, speaking of those cups with the big straws, you know, because my three year old, he loves Jessica's, you know, he'll try and drink from it. She will not let him drink from it because she said it's dangerous with the big straw. And I always was like, whatever, you know, I guess theoretically he could fall. Anyway, nobody, I know someone that that happened. Their kid fell with one of the big straws from a jamba juice. It wasn't even a hard straw. It was like a plastic but hard. And they had to go emergency room and have it removed. Oh my God. Yeah, dude. So that's a legit thing. What you got, John? Yeah, so there apparently there's a viral TikTok video of a woman's car that went on fire. And the Stanley Cup was in the center console and the water and everything that was inside of it was still cold. And the car burned up. No way. And the video has like 94 million views. So that's actually responsible, I guess, for the newest craze. Wow. Dude. Okay, now this is the hell. I remember that coming out after it was already popular. So I think that was a huge part to help it. Yeah, I think that just. I think that was the last couple of years. Did someone gasoline to the fire, so to speak? I mean, it looked like, I remember seeing that video. We'll play it for the YouTube audience. But basically the whole car burned on fire and the Stanley Cup was the only thing that survived. Wow. And that was like a family die. The Stanley Cup survived. Wow. That's terrible. Wow. I think I remember a video of the CEO. Great commercial. But I think he bought that woman a new car. Oh, that would be. Of course. Yeah, that would be. That would be a good move. That's brilliant. That would be, yeah, brilliant, brilliant. Wow. Look at that story out there. Ocean spray, they had their time in the sun over the pandemic, right? That guy, yeah, cruising off. No, shit, look at this. Look at it all intact in the center. It looked like they did the color. It didn't even like fade the color. Wow. Wow. Yeah, the CEO did buy her a new car. Oh, that's a cool story. I remember. How long ago was that? That was back in November. Oh, just this last November. Yeah. So much has just boosted it. Do you guys remember, speaking of thermoses and construction sites, because we all were on them with our dads and stuff. Do you guys remember the big orange one? Yellow one, you mean? Igloo? No, I think it might have been orange and it had like almost like lines around it. That's igloo. Is that the yellow? The one that you had the water and you. Yeah, yellow with a white lid. Is that what that is? Igloo. It is igloo, yeah. So everybody had that one. I'm pretty sure that's what you're talking about. There's all the soccer. They would have that at halftime next to the oranges. All right, all right. I got a chart for you guys. That's interesting that Max, look over here posted on antidepressant use. Let me pull it up. So that one, right? So that's the one right there. Yeah, yeah. Look at that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had that one. Yeah. So it's global antidepressant users per thousand people. So per capita, right? Which country do you think has the highest antidepressant users? Country. Country. US. US is number one. Yeah, yeah. Number two, Iceland, then Australia, then Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Portugal, UK, Finland. So basically, I mean, Oh, is that per capita too? Is that like per capita? Oh, wow. So you guys know over 10 percent. Well, no, that's that's less. Yeah, no, it is. 10 percent, over 10 percent of people around antidepressants in the United States. Wow. Yeah. So what's interesting about this, so he posted this and he said, what is going on? Like why are the antidepressants so high in all these countries and so low in other countries? And if you, I bet you, and this is my speculation, but I bet you if you took graphs of physical activity, you know, diet, poor diet, obesity, social interaction and spiritual practices or faith, right? All things that we know positively were the worst at it. If you, if you take that graph, I bet you could, you could make a strong case and show strong correlation. Like the countries with the worst scores in these have the highest antidepressant use. So the countries with the higher, who do better with these have, you know, do better. For example, Italy, which is a Western nation. And so it's going to have, you know, it's, it's like a lot of the other ones. It's so much lower than many of the others. In fact, it's one of the lowest in, in out of Europe. It's at 42 people per thousand. But I know in Italy, the, the social interaction is so important. Diet is a lot. Among the Western countries in, you know, obesity has exploded, but Italy's done better than others, even though it's still gotten worse. Yeah. So you got to look at, that's why that was the case I was trying to make, is like, we should, we should, somebody should do that. Put that all together, correlate them all. And then I think you could come up with a nice predictor and say, look, if these are these bad, if you give these a score, we can see that these other, that it'll predict this much antidepressant use. Yeah. You might want to even factor in, I guess. Shitty weather's gotta be a factor too. Maybe. It was for me in Chicago. Actually, you're right. You know, they've shown that already. You know, you talk about processed foods being one of the first big things to send us in towards obesity. What do you think before that was like the first like thing that started to evolve us in the direction of like, oh, we're going to start heading down a negative path as far as like obesity and over. Before that? Yeah, yeah. But the obesity, it's hard to say. I have some thoughts around that. Okay. Because, and I don't know if I saw, so I was just watching something. I don't know what it was. And I told Katrina, I'm like, you know what, that would actually would be a really clever diet book to write. And that is like, if you had a, oh, it was Seinfeld. It was Kramer. Kramer was doing this thing where he wanted to have like no stuff at home or he got rid of his refrigerator. So no fridge. Therefore, every meal had to be fresh. So you had to go down to the grocery store and pick up exactly what you're going to cook and eat at that moment. And then you had to go back and get again with this. Imagine if you'd never, if you never, and think about this, okay. And that's not far from how we evolved. We evolved, we hunted, brought it back, cooked, you know, killed it, skinned it, prepared it, ate it. And then you go, if you need more food, you go out and you do it again. So imagine if every meal, you had to go to the grocery store, go hunt it, go get it, then just for that meal, bring it back, cook it and prep it, and then do it again. The amount of steps and walking. Also, how many times you would go like, ah, am I really that hungry? I'm okay. That'd be a huge barrier. Imagine that. Yeah, huge barrier. Like no fridge, just say no, I'm no refrigerator. The no fridge diet. Yeah. Although you could have, I mean, processed foods and boxes last forever. But it, so it'd have to be the whole food, no fridge diet. Yeah. Okay. Think about that though. I, like it would be a, be a royal pain in the ass. It would, it would. But it would also keep you from, and by the way, you put, if you want to have a massive big meal, go for it. Cook a massive big meal. But then whatever you don't eat. Yeah, then whatever you don't, yeah, you're done. And then when you got it, when you're one, you got to eat again, you got to go get it. You know, preserving food has been around a lot longer than we, than we think though. You guys know that? Yeah, because we found hacks to do that. Well, we would salt meat. Salt meat. Smoke it, you would smoke it. Yeah, yeah. In fact, one of the, one of the, one of the, the oldest survival foods, people still make them for survival. I believe the Mongolians used to use, used to make, and I think it was off, it was, it was based off of milk. I can't remember what else they made, but they would make these like white blocks they look like, and they would keep them in their bags. One of the reasons why they did so well is they were so mobile. Cheese. Yeah. It was a type of cheese. Yeah, it was a type of cheese. Just, just, just. I mean, that was always my argument that, you know, they were so successful. With the cheese? It was based off their cheese. Yeah. The cheese and they were like horse people. Yeah. Those two are big factors in conquering. But you know, it's funny with the whole anti-depressant thing and it's like, like the answer is, it's right in front of us. It's so crazy how, how we just don't want to look at the right answer, which is like, move, you got to get up and move and let's probably change our diet a little bit. Like that'll solve a lot of this and then be social. Well, that's why I thought the whole idea, the whole fresh thing was so big. It's like, if it just, you got to go move. Because you don't have to do something crazy, like tracking down to hunt it, but just simply walking down to the grocery store. You know what? You could make a diet book that had some interesting rules in it that were not like standard diet rules. Like, like rule number one, you must eat every meal with someone. So that includes, that now it's social. Right. Rule number two, you, you, you can only buy something you're going to eat that day. So no storing. Yeah. So that would be another one. So you can make rules like that. Perishable. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I think we'll come up with something like that. I thought the same thing too. Yeah. We're sitting on a diet book here. Courtney's pretty good about that. She, that's why she always goes to like the farm, those farmers markets. Yeah. And then like pick stuff up that's perishable within like two to three days. Yeah. And then cooks up stuff based off of what's there and available. And she's always been like that. And I'm always like, ah, it's a lot of work. So you know that, you know who else is great at that? And I didn't even think about, Katrina was the one who reminded me, was Everett. And I forgot when he used to live with us when I first started dating Katrina. You go grocery shopping every day, huh? So he would bring home what he was going to prepare that night every single night. Yeah. Like he just come up with a recipe that matches this. The more kids you have, the harder that is though. Let's be real. I mean, you know. Of course. Yeah. That gets tough when you get, when you're on your own because Everett's, he's on his own. Right, right. So he just goes and. Life is a whole other ball game. We need to take care of other people. Yeah. I'm just in jail. Every aspect. Dude, name something that's not more difficult when you have. I'm always like I roll my eyes sometimes because I usually do dishes. And it's like, you know, when you make fresh stuff like that, all the pots, like every pot, you know, in the entire place gets used. And you're like, I can't complain, dude. This is like great food. Yeah. Dude, speaking of kids, my dog, my soul left my body the other day with my little one. My, my one year old, she was eating and I was cutting up like pieces of apple. And then she like, one of them got stuck. So she kind of gagged a little bit. Oh God. Oh, it was literally a split second. But bro, I was halfway. I was on the other side of the kitchen. I saw and ran over there and she like spit it out. Jessica walks in like five seconds later and she looked at her and she's like, what's wrong? I'm like, uh, I don't want to tell you because you might get mad at me for cutting the apple too big or whatever. You guys bought one of those things, didn't you? I know we have. We have it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The little emergency. I just hope I never have to use one. But yeah. Geez. Wow. Oh, that's good to share. She's so funny right now. My little one, she's like, she's like, so Jessica, when she was little, her mom tells stories of how Jessica used to just climb like she climbed before she could walk. So before she could walk, she was climbing things. And she would end up at the top of the fridge and just crazy places. My daughter's like that. She, you have to keep an eye on her because she'll, if she, she'll figure out a way to climb and she'll fall. She doesn't care, but she'll climb up. So we have, uh, you guys have seen the playroom, right? How we set it up. Yeah. So we have these little rings that the kids can hang from. So I'm like, I wonder if she, she's only like a year or a little over a year. I'm like, I wonder if she hang from here. So I put her little, little hands on there and then I kind of like, let go and put my hand. She was hanging. She was with, by the way, her arms weren't even straight. They were bent a little bit. I called Jessica and we're like, come check out her baby. That's savage already. You know, my, my mom was over this weekend and she was, you know, Katrina was asking stories, right? We're watching Max play around. Max is four right now. And so Katrina is asking a lot of questions from my mom. What was I like when I was two, three and four years old? Cause we're talking about how like sweet Max is. My mom was like, oh, you know, you were really that way too. She goes, but you definitely would get into the sweets like crazy. And so she talks about the, I guess, uh, one morning she came down and you ever seen those, um, those plastic things that you put the cake in that like, they're Tupperware and you just, Oh yeah, yeah. They're loud as fuck when you open them. Yeah, yeah. They pop them open or what that. So she had, she had put the cake in that and then she put it on top of the refrigerator. She goes, she came down one morning. I threw, I'm three years old and I had opened up a drawer on the, on the bottom and then put the stool in the drawer and then climbed up the thing on the counter and then climb the, yeah. And she sat out on the floor and the whole like cake is all over my face. Half the cake was eaten when she come downstairs. So she's like, there's, if I made a cake, she's guys, there was no way that that thing was lost. So you, you were going to eat that cake. So my mom would find a bite, a bite chunks out of the butter. That's how that's what I used to like butter. Just straight bite the butter. Yep. Yep. She would block a butter change. She'd go into a butter and there'd be like a little bite mark out of it because I used to eat butter. Did you ever, okay, when you were trying to bolt, because I know you went to the, did you ever go through the frozen butter cubes like people do? No. Oh, that's like a strategy that some people do who can't put on weight. Eat frozen butter cubes? Yeah. They'll just like freeze little butter cubes and then just, just like basically eat it like a chip. You know what I'm saying? Just eat them. Yeah, yeah. You've never heard of people doing that? No, I know what, I'm glad I didn't know about it because I would have done it back. I considered it, but I didn't like butter that much. I wasn't like a big butter guy at all. Back then at least. I like butter more now than I did back then. Wow. Isn't that, yeah, isn't that crazy? That's weird. But a quick way to put on some calories. That's weird, right? Oh, I got to say something to you, Justin, actually. I just remembered that you brought some up on a previous podcast that scared the crap out of us. It turns out it was not real. It was fake. The dude that made this. The hybrid. Yeah, bro. Insight guy. We got trolled, dude. That wasn't real? No. Thank God. I was like, how is this possible? Why are they allowing him to do this? That's why it freaked me out. You know, it was very compelling. Damn, dude, you can't trust anything. That was a real animal. That's a real. Oh, that's a real animal. Oh, so they, okay. He just, he just made up the story. Pretended that he did that. Yeah, I just never seen it before. Yeah, I've never seen that animal before either. So it was very plausible. Bro, you literally shook me because I watched that. And I remember thinking like, I'm like, are people actually doing this? This is like criminal activity. Why are they allowing you? Yeah. And it's like. No, it's, I guess it's a, it's like a parody account. Okay. That just bullshits people. Well, that makes you feel a little bit better, but I'll tell you what, dude, they're still doing some stuff like that in China. Though. Let's be honest. Yeah, we know that there's some, there's some embryos that, you know, who knows what they're going to grow up to become. Didn't a scientist get, uh, he had to apologize or something because he, he did something like that where he, he put some human genetics into a monkey or something like that, or vice versa. Said he was trying to figure something out on how to cure certain diseases. Yeah. And he got scolded. Right. But anyway. And then CRISPR, I mean, they've already, you know, had those twins and everything else that they modified their, their genetics. And so it's, I mean, I don't know. Like in terms of like overall morals and ethics in terms of science, like I'm a little concerned. You know what's most concerning about that conversation is when we had this, not that long ago when we talked about, um, what was it, the stealth bomber or the Blackbird? Which one was it? I always forget which one. SR-71 Blackbird. So the Blackbird, right? That we didn't know about for like 40 years and then we already had that technology. So imagine CRISPR technology and what we know about all this stuff like that we get to see in the public. Right. Like how much behind the scenes has already been done. You know what I think is going to happen? Okay. So it was, it was gene edited babies. That's what it was in China. Yeah. Yeah. We did talk about that. What were you talking about? You know what I think it's going to be like in the future? Because fertility is a big issue right now. This is like a silent epidemic that's happening that even with young people, fertility rates are dropping. Men's testosterone and sperm counts are dropping and women are experiencing fertility issues. And there's a lot of potential reasons why, but if the trend continues within a couple of generations, we'll essentially not be able to reproduce. That's how scary it is. Okay. So all these fertility clinics are popping up and they're exploding. And one of the speculations is that they're not going to, it's not going to be crazy, but what they'll do is they'll take your sperm, take your wife's egg, and then they'll pick the best genes that you guys can provide. So in other words, the best possible baby you could create, we will pick those. Interesting name created through CRISPR. Yep. Yeah. So it's not, it's still your genes. Right, right. It's just the best possible, right? Interesting. Yeah. So. I mean, would you do it? I mean. No. There's a part of you that No, man. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I just don't feel wrong. You say that. You say that now. You say that now. Say that now. I don't know if I believe that. I have a great uncle with I mean, I, hey, my, my initial reaction is, hell no, I wouldn't do that either. But the more you think like, ah, you know, the fact. Okay. Think of the case like Katrina and I, right? We're in our mid 30s, 30s, 40s. If we're getting ready to have, I wish I was in my 30s still. If I was getting ready to have another kid right now. And the doctor said, well, here's, yeah, you're at that age now where you're a little bit at risk. This and that. What we can guarantee though is we can do this CRISPR technology. Make sure we give you the healthiest, perfect. Well, they already do that. They already try to pick the healthiest embryos, right? With that. But this would be literally gene by gene with, with, with the CRISPR technology. So I mean, how, how is that that much different? Right? They're already picking every. I know it's a slippery slope that people talk about. Yeah. I mean, it's like, so right now it sounds so crazy because it's such new technology and you think to yourself, but watch when that becomes so regularly used. And you're like, okay, it makes kind of sense. Maybe I should do that. Oh, that'll be crazy. Yeah. That'll be wild. So the best of whatever you guys produce maybe comes out. You're not that excited. You're like, that's the best we can. This is where you guys came up. That would, that would suck. Came through a baseball. That's the best you got. So sorry. Okay. I guess you're right. All right. Well, I got, I got a follow up for you then. So because I know you probably know this. But I think it was in the 70s like 76 or so. Like this guy basically came up with a hydrogen powered car. Oh. And like displayed it, right? Yes. And so that's like the whole like story behind it is, yeah, it was working. It was running. And everybody was all excited. He showed the possibility of it. And then he was at some like a cracker barrel or something restaurant. He's meeting there near the Pentagon. And again, this is like disputed all over the internet, whether or not this, this was like, he was assassin or not, like runs out of the restaurant saying, I've been poisoned. And then he, he met his demise. Wow. So, but what brings it up is because like, I thought I heard rumors of like a hydrogen powered submarine that was coming out of like Germany that would be able to run basically on these like hydrogen cells. And like almost indefinitely just used. Well, that's nuclear. I just don't, yeah, but that's nuclear, but this is like hydrogen. Like it utilizes the water itself and like keeps like storing it as fuel. I sent you remember the thing that nuclear nuclear. The water, the water fusion out of out of air. Oh, that's huge. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I sent that over to you the other day. You know that they have nuclear, or they're talking about, I'm sure they already have it, nuclear powered drones. So are you serious? Yeah. So it'll fly in the air forever. So they'll put it up in the air and that's it never has to land. And it'll just. Oh, okay. I got one more for you. Okay. So I heard, I heard an interesting theory, which is something I'm kind of subscribed to, but in terms of like why we're seeing all this UFO phenomena and all this kind of stuff, like just now like recently, mainly because of Space Force. Like this being like the next thing is like, since we unleashed Space Force, now we have to have. A reason. A reason. Oh, God, that's it right there. And so all this money that you've seen offshore to like, you know, we've been the war machine. That's a really brilliant. That's propaganda. It's propaganda. So they're able to usher money now to go to the government. And we have these real threat. We don't know about trillions of dollars when I'll get funded to to. That's the most logical. Yeah. That's the most logical. That's what I've heard in regards to the all this. That's it right there. Yeah. Because they got to, you have to get the public. You got to get everybody frayed. That's right. Once everybody's afraid and we think, oh my God. Can legislate it. Now we can tax and we can get all this money coming back in since they're not happy about all the wars we're creating. You know, let's do one up. Why do we need a Space Force? Right. Well, you know, I don't know as UFOs out there. That makes perfect sense. Wow. So there you go. I can't believe we didn't piece that together. I know. I just just heard it and I was like, oh. You know what we'll know, right? When the next next president comes in, that's like the first big bill pass, you know, for trillions of dollars. No matter how much that's going to happen. Wow. Yeah. Oh, that's really good. Hey, I want to talk about that peptide GHK CU. Oh, the copper one. Okay. So that one is in the one of the skincare products from Intera and in their hair, their hair product. I like it. I've been using it. Really good. Yeah, I do. I like it. Have you read about what it does? Have you seen about what GHK does? Well, my biggest concern was, can I use it in conjunction with Caldera? And the answer was yes. And so I have been. Yeah. So put it on first, then put the Caldera on. Oh, is it the order? Yeah. Okay. It's good to go. No. I mean, I'll pull up a study for you that I read about it. And because ones have peptide and ones like an all natural cream. It outperformed retinol A, which is like that's the top one for, you know, for collagen and photo age skin. Another study showed that it significantly, so it outperformed everybody for skin appearance, thickness, reduced wrinkles, and induced proliferation of the type of cells in the skin that are essentially like in the dermis that help rebuild the scale, the skin. It's also good for hair growth. And it's good for hair pigment. Okay. So why did that? So Dr. Khan told Katrina to only use it once or twice a week. There are their team told her once twice a week. They told me I could use it daily. Is it because it's a peptide, it's stronger? And so it's just not necessary to use it every day? Do you know? Wait, wait, so repeat that? So they told Katrina to just use that, the GHK CU cream or whatever. Just tell her to use that. Once a week. That's it. Oh. You don't even need to use it that much. Depends on the potency. Oh, okay. Yeah, it depends on the potency. Oh, so maybe that one has a little bit more of it in it. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. Because in Tara, I know is used, is it made as a daily cream? Oh, okay. It depends on the intensity. So maybe that she has a stronger one. You can also, people can also inject GHK. So I inject it also. Sub-Q, yeah. But you're trying for systemic first. Yeah, I kind of fucking hate it though. You said it burns. It still burns like a sting. Yes, and I diluted it, man. It's a tough one to inject. Didn't you have to do it too? No, I didn't get any. Oh, I thought you did have to do it. Courtney did. Yeah, Courtney did. Does she not complain about it? I mean, she, I think she felt it. I think she's on a lower dose. But yeah, I don't think she's, she's never really complained about it to me. Fuck, man. Makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong. Like, you know, I don't know. Some peptides, some peptides are like that. Fuck, it hurts. It did 24 hours. Yeah. What was that one that we did, Doug? MOTC? No, that one didn't burn. Oh, yeah, that other one. Oh, God. There was one that. Yeah, there was one I tried. Oh, man. Fire. It was like, yeah, fire, dude. And some of them I didn't even feel. BPC, I didn't even feel. Yeah, I don't feel that. All the other ones I don't even notice compared to this. Like in it, like for good 24 hours, it bothers me. And then after about 24 hours. And it doesn't. Interesting. But you're supposed to cut it, right? With more water? I did. I wonder. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I see. I mean. Pitilane, right? Pitilane was the one that I hated. It burned like. What was that for? It's anti-aging longevity. Supposed to lengthen your telomeres. I didn't really notice anything off of it. But I did. Now, supposedly the GHKCU, which is what's in Intera, is supposed to be. Topical. No, it's supposed to be the best of the best. Yeah. Of as far as like all the anti-aging peptides that exist. I read that that is supposed to be. It's one of the best ones. It's supposed to be the best. It's one of the best ones. It's got cognitive benefits. It's got benefits for the lungs, the hair, the skin. Essentially, it's a signal or post damage. So when you have damage and your body, your body sends out GHK to signal to your body to accelerate repair. So when you use this peptide, you're telling your body repair, repair faster. Yeah, that's why they have me rubbing it on my psoriasis too. Awesome. All right. So we should do a shout out for DadBodFitness. He's on YouTube, right? Just gave us a review on maps old time. He reviewed our programs. I mean, I love his presentation, how he communicates. In fact, we sent his video to our editors. We're like, dude, this guy's doing a phenomenal job. Anyway, great channel. Check him out. DadBodFitness. We've been working with Ned for a long time. They make hemp oil products that are exceptional. These are CBD products you feel. Literally take it 45 minutes. You know you took something. They have other products as well. 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You have to have stability because if your body feels unstable, it's not going to generate the kind of strength or the speed of strength that you're looking for because your body is always going to limit it based on stability. So you have to have strength, stability, and then you have to be able to summon your strength very quickly in an organized fashion. In other words, power is the greatest expression of strength. Yes, 100%. Very well said. You have to, your body has to feel secure and it has to be strong to contract and move forcefully. By the way, that stability includes deceleration. So, you know, if I throw a powerful swing or if I throw a ball really quickly, my muscles that decelerate my arm are part of the equation, even though they're not accelerating my arm with the throw, my body can sense whether or not they can, you know. Your arms are going to rip off. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, this is all like, yeah, strength plus acceleration, right? So you work on that and that's why this is such a great exercise for that too, is like being able to get yourself into some form of, I guess technically this wouldn't be triple extension, but it's in full extension like as quickly as possible. And to be able to apply like as much force in one direction as possible, the quickest you can. And so you have to have a lot of prerequisites before attempting things like this. And so this is a great way to kind of work your way up towards that pinnacle of strength. Don't you have to come from a like a very rigid and then loose? How would you, how would you articulate that too, right? Like when you first snap from hanging clean, you're still and your core is tight and you're rigid and then you get loose when you whip it up. So how do you, how would you articulate? I know I'm not saying it right. No, you're on point. It's, I've had a few people try to describe that to me too and it's like having almost like a rope that's a little bit loose and then you get it taut real quick. And so like it's that first initial yank. When we get that yank, you know, it allows the bar to travel and accelerate and then your body's basically now organizing itself for the catch. And so it's all determined on that first initial force output on how high the weight travels. Now cleanser, the reason why cleanser are, you know, when someone thinks of a power movement with a barbell, they think of a clean, right? Either a hand clean or a power clean. And that's because, you know, you mentioned triple extension, that power development in that particular movement has got a lot of carry over to just general athletics, right? So sports. Have you guys ever seen Olympic weight lifters jump? You ever seen them jump to see how high they can jump? Yeah. It's, they look like, I mean, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you think a strength athlete, but they can jump like a sprinter or like any other at the cracker. That's what this exercise is. Yeah. This is a jump with weight, you know? And if I could like reduce it down to one thing, because it's complicated, a lot of moving parts, but really like you're just jumping and you're trying to be able to get that bar path, you know, nice and vertical. That's, I was just going to say, so, you know, power, strength, there's an element within strength of this as well, but with power, especially the more organized the contraction is, or the way that the muscles are contracting, the more that that strength and that speed of the strength can be applied in a very tight, narrow space or focus, the more power you can exert. So it's like, you guys ever seen those water saws? I don't know if it's called a water saw, but they'll shoot out water with so much force, it's such a fine point that they could cut through anything. Ever seen those videos? Yeah, yeah. Well, they'll cut through like a computer or a brick or what. The pressure that the increase of pressure will allow you to then cut through metal. Because it's a smaller and smaller and tighter focus of, you know, whatever it's pushing out. It's concentrated. Power is like that. So, you know, being able to generate power and is part of is being able to focus where you're trying to generate all the strength. With no leakage anywhere, right? That's why it translates so well to all pursuits and all sports because every sport has something in there, right? Basketball, to be able to explode and jump off the ground like that, like, if you have leaks in power, you're not going to be very explosive. When you swing the bat and you explode out of your hips and you hit a ball, like, you're not going to be able to hit the ball very far if you have leaks in power. Like, if you throw a pitch or throw a football as hard as you can, like, if you have leaks in power, you're not going to be able to do that very well. I remember reading the towel of Jeet Kune Do. This is Bruce Lee wrote this book and wrote about generating power with your punches. And he said, think of a whip. So, if you think of a bull whip, you ever hear the crack of a whip? That's because the end of the whip is breaking the sound barrier. That's what that crack is coming from. Now, it all starts at the handle, but it generates the force all the way down until the end of it moves much faster. So, he said a punch, the force is generating from the ground and you're using, you're moving it through your hips and then the end of your fist is like a whip. And it's that power focused through like a tight canal that'll generate that. And really, like, skill. Yeah, and most of it, I mean, between your feet, like, so, I mean, everything kind of derives from, like, being able to really anchor and ground your feet for ground forces that translate up into your hips. And your hips are really the center of mass that you're moving with acceleration and power to then drive that force throughout your body. Now, the reason being that we put hang cleans in there is wouldn't you say that's the most regressed example or exercise to teach like general population? Yeah, the skill acquisition for like a power clean or especially a snatch. It's like, man, it takes a long time. And so, I know that was a really long-winded answer for the person who asked it. They're probably asking this because we've programmed this into performance. And the logic behind that was, okay, how do we introduce to the general population the values of explosive training, but also recognize that we're going to have a lot of general population that's going to go through this program that we don't want to put something as complex as like a full snatch or hang clean. Well, even you and I, Adam, you and I, if we were learning how to do full power clean or snatch, it would take us a while. Yeah, you know, you should be doing it with a PVC pipe for, you know, six months before. So you said general pop. I mean, we're both fit, we work out, but there's so much skill involved. I wouldn't even attempt one for six months. And there's other options. And I know a lot of like high experienced coaches kind of like talk a lot about that, of risk reward and like, you know, acquisition of skill going into season and like what you can actually translate in that timeframe. And so some people, some coaches won't even like entertain, even hang cleans versus like doing it with a trap bar where they just do a clean or they do like a high pole with, with, you know, a trap bar. So there's other options out there that take a little less skill acquisition, but, you know, do the same, cover the same value. Next question is from Crolland. What are your thoughts on cycle sinking workouts with one's periods as a woman? Is there any real benefit to it? Is this, is there somebody who just released a book or is this getting popular again right now? It became popular on social media. This has been around forever, by the way. Like there's, there's, and there, this tends to be one of those waves that like come and go where somebody writes a book or somebody puts out some science to support this argument. And then all of a sudden this huge trend comes like, oh, this is the answer, right? Like we've addressed this several times that it's, and I know whenever we address it, we always piss off somebody who's like, you know, decided to follow a protocol of this and it's been life changing for them because they alter their workouts according to the cycle. But the truth is there's so many variables, including your cycle, that could dictate the intensity of your training that it's not the end all be all. For example, if I have a client who let's say at, you know, middle of her cycle, she's the weakest and the worst. But yet that also happened to be that week, she got the best rest, she got the best food, she's in the best mood and she's ready to, she hits a PR. And then the opposite is true. Maybe she's in the part of her cycle where she's supposed to be going hard as possible because she's supposed to be the freshest and the best she is, according to the way this person's laid out, the cycle training program. But then she got terrible sleep last night, she got in a fight with her husband and now she's in the gym with me and she was rushing and she was late and she's totally overwhelmed with stress. It's like, that's a terrible time for me to chase that PR just because of her, it lands on her cycle. I think it's wise to be... So individual. I think it's wise to be aware of the changes during the different phases of your cycle. But you got to ask yourself that day how you feel and all the factors that you said, Adam, because... Because that matters more. It does because you'll get stuck. You don't want to get stuck in this like, well, I'm supposed to be in my ovulating phase and this is when I'm supposed to have the most energy or whatever. I mean, a lot of things can influence that. And if you're stuck on where you are in your cycle and you're not listening to your body, well, then you're screwed. Like if you asked me, how should this woman train? And I couldn't talk to her, but I could ask you questions like what phase is she in her cycle. And I had minimal questions that might help me, but I would much rather just ask her. I would never ask female clients. What stage are you cycling? Never asked that. It was always based off of your sleep. How do you feel? Yeah, how do you feel? How'd you feel? What did you do yesterday? How'd you sleep? Like how's your mood right now? Like that, all those matter. And this is where I think we always piss people off because I'm not discounting the science that supports that technically she'll be weaker at certain points of her cycle. I'm not saying this not true. But what is also true is the things that I was giving as examples. Poor sleep will disrupt that training even more. High, getting in a fight with your husband the night before will make that worse. Poor two days of low calorie and not enough nutrients will affect that more. Being rushed and stressed on your way to the workout and getting there late. Well, those things will matter. Workout program. Yes. Those will matter as much or more. Way more. Than what you're being told that this cycle program. What's interesting about this, because again, look, the cycle, there definitely is, I think it's four stages in the cycle. There definitely are changes and hormones that happen. Yes. Which will affect how you feel and your energy and all that. So that's true, right? But you know, it's interesting. It's like when, you know, what's the one thing you never, it's just like a big joke, right? It's like a big joke. We've all known this for decades now. If your wife or your girlfriend, you guys in an argument, like the one thing you never say. Yeah. If you want to be a guy and you want to get, you want to be asleep on the couch. Yeah. Never be like, whoa, what's going on? Are you on your period? Like that's a great way to totally dismiss everything that's going on or whatever. So I find it interesting that this is now getting marketed as a way to work out because it's in the same vein. It's in the same vein as don't talk to your girlfriend when she's, you know, PMSing. It's the same thing as you should work out hard during this cycle because it does affect you, but there's so many factors that affect you that you have to do an internal check. How do I feel right now? That'll determine, and the problem with this, I think it's smart marketing. In fact, I'm going to be quite honest. We thought, I thought, you guys remember, I thought, maybe what if I put out a guide and then I scratch it because I said, this is going to be so counter to what we experience training people. The problem with something like this is people will get stuck on it and they'll look at it and be like, this is my family. I'm supposed to train my hardest right now. I mean, there's some true transparency right for the audience. Like we considered years ago writing something specific to this just because of- And we didn't because of what we're saying. Right. Because it doesn't, it doesn't, and on top of the things that I said, there's also this massive individual variance. So, and listen, you, no one knows your body better than you, right? So if you're listening to me and this is bothering you that I'm saying all this stuff, if you're somebody who, when they go through this and it lines up and it's like, it's just crippling for you when you get into that phase like, and you realize you've got to really, then back off. You already know, you didn't need some book or some fucking program guide to tell you that. You feel terrible. And so that's your body telling you, you probably don't need to be going full tilt that day in the gym. But you know, it's not this idea, it's just a way to get, it's just another way to market to people and sell things and make them like, guy, you know what's so funny, you're bringing this up right now. Let's base it off the orbit of the moon. This was like, one of our best friends, I went to dinner with them and his wife, and his wife was bringing up like super anti, this new brand of super antioxidants that come out and that the way it's absorbed to the body and it's just like the way, and I'm like, that's all marketing. She was like, she was spitting all the things. You know what, you don't want super, they don't exist. You don't want super antioxidants, by the way. That gives cancer. You don't want antioxidants so powerful that it stops all oxidation. You create a bunch of zombie cells and you get cancer. I mean, my point of bringing that up is just that it's just, we get marketed to these things that we glom onto as like, oh, this is, this is me, you know, this is what I'm missing. This is what I need, you know. Next question is from Tristan Pisa. I'm trying to increase endurance. Is there a specific rep range I should be training in? Unfortunately, I don't know what kind of endurance you're looking for. There are different types of endurance. There's cardiovascular endurance. And there's muscle endurance. There's muscle endurance. Then there's the kind of endurance where you could do repeated bouts of strength and power over long periods of time. Work capacity. Yeah, so like, you know, like a football player, right? You're doing, your play, how long does a typical football play last? It's like 30 seconds. 30 seconds. But you got to do them over and over again. That's a type of endurance or repeated strength that you need, right? Then there's like the long type of endurance, cardiovascular, you could just like, that's the traditional endurance people think of, where you could just run for long distance. Then there's strength endurance. It's all very different. Like I remember when I was at my highest, like training level with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, I was training four or five days a week. I could easily, I could easily go for an hour nonstop rolling on the ground. I had very good fitness there. And then I remember I went and did, I hit some mitts and did some boxing instruction and then did some sparring because I wanted to try boxing. Remember how gas I felt? And I told my buddy and he goes, dude, he goes, when I do Jiu Jitsu, I get gas. He goes, it's so weird how like, you could feel so incredible one or the other. So it's all very different. So if you're looking for cardiovascular endurance, long stamina type endurance, very straightforward, you, you literally run or cycle or practice something that's kind of steady state. You want strength endurance. You go on the higher reps, 20, 30, 40 reps or shorter rest periods in between sets. Switch endurance, yeah, it's five seconds. Sorry, it wasn't 30 seconds that meant, but yeah. So just, and I would try and emulate that too. Like, so if you're, if you're trying to like, if you're an athlete and you're trying to kind of mimic what you, how you perform, you want to stay within that type of protocol where it's like, you know, I'm, if I'm getting up and I'm doing my five second bouts and I'm going like super intensity, whatever you can mock and emulate. A lot of times tutor in the time of day, all these factors kind of playing in, you know, an account, but there's a lot of different ways you can get endurance and even just carrying heavy objects for a, for a long period of time and holding in an isometric kind of position for a long period of time. You know, there's, there's lots of different ways to skin the cat with endurance. So the, the greatest mistake I see with questions like this is this person is normally somebody who has an endurance sport that they like to play and they need endurance for their sport. Soccer, marathon run. I know where you're going. Great point. Okay. And so they, they, they know that and they've been told they need to work on their endurance. And so then they're asking the weightlifting guys over here, what should I do in the gym? And so here's, here's the mistake that people make is that they go, oh, because soccer needs more endurance or because my run, I need to work on my running and it needs more endurance. How do I lift weights in the gym so I get more endurance? Don't use the weights like that. That's not, because then you're going to get what Sal was saying, like you being, having good bicep curl endurance is not going to carry over to your soccer field. Soccer field endurance is going to carry over to soccer field endurance. Use weights for what they're good for. That's right. Make it stronger. Use your weights to get stronger, more explosive, like the last, one of the last questions that we asked, like, build your power, your strength, like that is going to translate into all sports. We were just talking about hand cleans, right? Then that's not an endurance workout, right? Training hand cleans is not an endurance exercise. It's designed to be explosive, handful of reps, good, long reps. Fatigue your enemy for that kind of sport. Yeah, you don't want to get fatigued. So you're not training the same way that you would. And if you want endurance in your sport, go do your sport for longer periods of time. If that's running, run for longer and get better at it. If your soccer, play soccer, get better at it. Then use the weights to get stronger, get more explosive, get better stability. Like there's a lot of things. You know what's interesting about what you're saying too is four endurance athletes who already have a lot of endurance. Sometimes what they need is to get stronger. And I've seen that with a lot of athletes I've trained who were endurance athletes who were quite proficient. You know, run several marathons a year. I had some triathletes that I trained. But they need breakaway speed. Yeah, and I literally, you know, I had them back off on their endurance training and we did a little bit of strength training. Not a lot. And they got more endurance as a result because strength contributes to endurance as well. So it's not always as straightforward as you think with that. Next question is from Langan Hoven. Bonnie, what are your thoughts on hybrid training? Is it possible to train for a marathon and build muscle at the same time with enough calories? Yeah, I mean- It is, you're just not going to be good at both. Yeah. You're going to be average at both. The analogy I gave a long time ago is my favorite. It's like when you're building your character on the video game and they give you 100 points and you have to pick, there's only so many points you can get for strength and speed and stamina or whatever. And if you give all the points to one, you have no points left for the other ones. That's what it's like when you're training hybrid. So if, and the more that the attributes compete, the more detrimental they are to each other. And long endurance and explosive strength or low rep strength tend to counter each other. So building muscle and lots of endurance, definitely at some point really start to counter each other. So what does that mean? Well, if you train for both, you get a little both, but you get a lot of neither. So that's basically what it boils down to. But can you? Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of sports that require all of the attributes. So- As long as you're okay with being kind of middle of the row on both of them, you could easily do it. Like, if you're not trying to win a bodybuilding show, but you want to build some muscle and you want to do a marathon to say you can accomplish and finish a marathon, but you're not trying to win the marathon, then you could easily be the buff marathon runner who runs out there and places 122nd out of everybody that goes and runs. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. But the more, the better you get at either one of these, the more it takes away from the other one. So if you care more about being jacked, you're probably not going to be the best marathon runner. Or if you care about finishing top of your class for a marathon running, you're probably not going to be that buff while you're running. So it's just, they're definitely competing. A marathon running is catabolic in nature. Even if you are fed like crazy, if you do anything over an hour of endurance training, that you're going to switch over into catabolic. So you're going to be catabolic in that building muscle is anabolic. And so they're competing signals. Yeah, I think marathon is extreme endurance. So the way that you would train is like this. You would say, which one do I want more of? And if I want more endurance, I'm going to use a strength training to support my endurance. If I want more strength, more muscle, then I'm going to use the endurance to support my strength training. Because you can do that, right? You can train a little bit of endurance to enhance your ability to do strength training. And you can do a little bit of strength training to enhance your endurance. But if you want a lot of both, it's going to be very difficult. Yeah. And I think too, just even like taking the time to focus on one for a period of block and then transitioning to the other is probably even more advantageous. Then combining the two together in your workouts. Yeah, combining the two is not, I mean, whenever I have a client that would be like this, because we get stuff like this all the time. And so this was very common to hear something like this. And you just had to explain to them what's happening, like what you're, what are you telling the body when you train each one of these? So they get a good grasp. I would always want them to tell me what was more important. Like one of them has to be more important than the other, right? I'm not going to tell you that we can't do both of them, but there's got to be one you care more about than the other. Yeah, you can't just be everything. Yeah, you're not going to be a great marathon runner and a great bodybuilder. It's just not going to happen. It's going to be, something's got to give. And so if you told me that one of these has to give more than the other, which one is the one you give up more? And then then from there, I can build a decent regimen. Then I know like, oh, okay. Hey, this person cares more about how they look than they really care about when they finish the marathon. So I'm going to put more energy into hypertrophy training and then we'll complement the hypertrophy training with some of their marathon. You know what the confusion comes from? And they said it here in the question, which is, can you do both if you eat enough calories? This is not a calories issue, although too little calories will hamper any progress anyway. But you could eat all the calories you want. This is about adaptation. This signal that your body is receiving from endurance that's required for marathon running is to be efficient with calories and to have lots of endurance and to not have a lot of strength. We don't need a lot of strength for it. So in order to accomplish this, your body pairs muscle down. Well, the signal you're sending with strength training to build muscle is not to be calorie efficient, that you need muscle, that you need muscle to perform this task. So they're adaptations. It's not really a calorie thing. So long as calories are sufficient, it's all about adaptation. And so what happens, you have these competing adaptations where one says more muscle, less efficient with calories. The other one says less muscle, more efficient with calories. So it ends up, where you end up is where somewhere kind of in the middle, if you will. The only place that calories really play a role here is like, you want a real quick way to lose muscle. Yeah, don't eat enough calories and go run like crazy. And I don't care how much weightlifting you do, you're going to lose muscle. So that's the only factor that calories have is like it's going to be muscle sparing by making sure you're hitting calorie surplus every single day. But it does not guarantee you're going to build any muscle because you're putting so much. Yeah, the point of, if you're trying to be like an endurance athlete on top of all this, it's really just like trying to spare as much muscle as possible. It's not gaining. Like you're not really going to be in that position at that point. And at some points, muscle becomes detrimental for endurance training. So look, if you love the show, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our free fitness guides. We have a lot of fitness guides that can help you with most of your fitness goals. 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