 And the shit ain't even, none of this shit is real. None of this shit is real. You know I was right. It's real to me. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. We talkin' shit today. We just being real objective, man. One of my favorite objective opinions in the podcast we're in the media game. Loon Lagoon. Yes, Lord. Welcome to the trap. Yes, Lord. It's always good when you can have people come through and then have them type of conversation. You know what I'm saying? The right way, with the right energy, with the right type of objections. Right. To let the conversation live. And we were just sitting here going back and forth hypothetically about some what if. What if? Right. What if? It's important we live in that what if too, man. Cause a lot of the what ifs are starting to become realities. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just like this was a what if. It's a reality now. Right. The next step is a what if. If we keep marching it's gonna be a reality. So we need to spend time in the what ifs. But that's what we were just talking about though. It's like, as media creators and content creators and shit, it's certain topics and trigger words that you can throw around for any action. That's why you keep seeing the same topics recycled and reword it slightly different. But it's pretty much all the same thing. Right. Reacts beef. Right. Trigger words. How much should a man or would a woman or could you date a? Oh. Why? Why is this a question? Right. Like just hypothetical and then they'll have people on that trigger and screaming and hollering and fighting and all kind of crazy shit over some hypothetical shit. Right. And then the people who's doing the hypothetical a lot of times they trying to tap into the algorithm. Right. So they ain't even true to what the conversation is. Right. I'm being lucky in what I'm doing that I'm tapping into the algorithm with true conversations. Same way y'all do. That's a different that's a different thing. Cause these people are trying to factory this thing. Right. To make it where it hits the algorithm and we're able to do it with just regular conversation. You know, that's a deep, deep, deep, deep thing and it's very valuable. Right. We got to start speaking on the value of us two in our Raj form. Just us talking like this. Gotta be us to do this. Can't no other race do this like this. Right. Ain't gonna happen nowhere in the world. And we got to understand and understand on it in the meetings. I'm standing on it. Man, what made you come into the media world? Really just watching. Really I'm a fan of conversation. I'm a fan of information. Right. So I'm an information based person. And so when the podcast stuff started, I instantly took a like into so much information. It's almost like the encyclopedias live in podcasting now. Right. Fucking encyclopedias. You can literally go find a podcast about shit you probably used to reading encyclopedia. Like how do you- That's the fascination to me too, the new information. Yeah man. What's some of the podcasts that you listen to check out that people wouldn't think? I'm, of course I watch Joe Rogan. Right. Because he got all the markets. It's important to understand him from top to bottom. Plus he the motherfucking highest earner. Yeah. And also they have great conversations. Yeah. About interest and top. Exactly. And it's important that I adopt that in a way that's like hold on to that because they'll trick you into thinking you need to chase these names or chase these moments. Like we just saying chase these words. When I'm watching a dude got 500 over there that ain't chase nothing. He might talk about COVID when it's hot but these are conversation pieces. Right. And for me, I check Rogan out. I check out Lex Freeman. I check out the Tim Cassie, the dude that Yated just walked off on. Like I'm watching those guys. Bird, Christ and the Time Cigar. Yeah. You know, I've watched what they did. They built a network over there where they are making a killing. Watching y'all. And like I say, bro, those things I tap into and it's almost for a business side of things. Especially Rogan. He's my number one, I'm on him. I'm, oh, oh, that move, that move. He had the dude on that bit said he was went through the Congo looking for a dinosaur. Like how do you even think to come up with some shit like that? Now, now what happens is just like y'all and this is important for us to understand in content world. Once you get it up and going, once they understand like me, they understand, ah, he wanted him, he information there. So now it's, it run itself. The dude start reaching out to you. They know he sit down with people that climb 16 mountains in six days, right? So they reaching out. Like some of them stories are finding you. You just gotta make it clear to your people that this is what I'm on. I ain't just, I can't let you pin me right here. And when I talk to my audience, I tell them, like you gonna see me sitting here down here and now and be clear that I'm gonna be the same person in every room, you know what I'm saying? But it's important that I spread my wings, right? And they respect it. Hopefully if not, I still got to go with the move. You know what I mean? You got to. Who you listen to podcast that people wouldn't think? Bruh, it's this shit. I think it's called just pearly things. What they do to people in the UK. What they talk about relationship dynamics and shit over there. It'd be real interesting because they'd be so politely disagreeing. I love that shit. So I fuck with that one. I fuck with the Joe Rogan shit. I watch, I watch Bird and Tom sometimes unless they start getting too weird. Yeah, you know that. Yeah, they get to being too weird sometimes. I come across a lot of media and content across my time. The Cali and West show, shit like that. I check out everything actually. Just to see, well especially anytime I see like some black people content, I want to see it. Even if I disagree with it, I still want it to be like have something to base the disagreeing off of. Sometimes I just need to hear different. Different thoughts and ideas and shit like that. And you know once you watch one, they show you all of them. Right. Like a YouTube shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's it. And I want everybody to have a podcast on the black people shit. Cause we need, like you said, we need to exchange information. Right. And that's what this shit is about. Cause I watched them boys over there, they exchanging the fuck out of information. And I'm sitting there like, damn. And also speaking of Bird and Tom, they have a thirst to understand our culture. And that's why it's important to see us over there. Or sometimes us have conversations cause they have a, they don't understand a lot of things they may speak about, right? Even they're not supposed to. Right. But they won't understand. They're not going to either way. You don't think so? Hell no. I ain't talking about the shit we come from. I'm talking about just explaining now. You know, not a sign the young thug and that's a joint venture in the rap world. They don't need to know all that. You don't think so. They speak on and influence their people? No. And we don't care that their confusion is there? No. It's gonna fuck the lick up. Mm. You don't never gonna fuck the lick up. Yeah. Once they figure out that we know some shit, they're gonna cut it off. No more joint ventures. Mm. That's how they're fucking making it. I got to respect it. Yeah. I got to respect it. You agree with that? You got to keep in mind, man, they are white men. They don't need to be understanding shit. Nah, what I'm saying is I believe it's valued in the marketplace. Oh no. And I'm hustling it. So I believe it's value in the marketplace when you see people with a massive platform and a misunderstanding. There's a problem that needs to be fixed. And I'm a problem solved. You know what I'm saying? That's how I look at that. And for me, I understand that they have a thirst for understanding. They try to talk about it sometimes. And my thing is, show that audience and figure that out business-wise. My emotions ain't tied into much of nothing. I've been hurt. I come from the darkness. I feel you. So I don't think about, I ain't emotionally tied to nothing but disrespect. Outside of that, my emotions ain't tied. I almost love almost don't get my emotions. They understand? Why not? Because I've already been mishandled. They've misplaced what they should have done with me. When I was vulnerable. And so when I'm a counselor and I expose myself to certain things, it's uncomfortable. And it's at the detriment of the goal. And it's in your hands, right? So say I start loving you and I love you and I open it all the way up and I love you, right? What happens is, for whatever reason, say I'm fumbling, say I'm treating you bad and you decide to go left or do something. Now I take my mind off the goal and try to straighten that out. Cause I don't want to, this is important. Love is important to me. Yeah. And that's what's important. I don't give access to it as much cause it's just that important to me. That's cheating yourself. Maybe. That's why they say black men don't know how to love. You cheating yourself. That's the risk of being in love or loving. See, why risk, what's the risk? You take a risk with everything else that you do in life. Why not take a risk on the best part? Let me ask you this, what do you gain with love? What do you gain for filming? Human experience. That's a good fucking, that's a good fucking word. Cause that's all that everybody's looking for anyway. You don't do this, you're like, you do, like when motherfuckers say if you love something, you'll do it for free. That's the only thing that'll apply to that. If you love something, you'll do it for free. And I don't want to say I don't love cause I do love, but it's important that I'm, me, I know that I have a paranoia with vulnerability. And so my emotions are in my background. But think about all the other chances that you take in life. You get in your car and you take a chance. You trust some complete stranger to drive on the other side. Based on emotion, based on the hundred years of cost. They done done this a hundred years. Yeah, they done been in love for thousands. And they keep fucking it up. Nah, it's for the same reason. The same reason. I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying that I'm right about this, but I know that- It's good conversation. Anything that you do, you take a risk. That's facts. So I mean, the greater the risk, the greater the reward. It's just gotta be worth it. When it comes to love, you have to find your tribe. And I think that too many times that we feel in love is because we allow ourselves to fall in love with people that don't have our best interests, or there's the same interests. We try to convince people to love us. You know what I'm saying? When it's somebody that naturally will fuck with you, if you go fuck with people- That's not the same. It's not the same. Yes it is. No, it's not. We say somebody that'll naturally fuck with you. They ain't the same as love. No, I'm talking about naturally just take you in and you don't have to- Compatibility. Compatibility. You know what you compatible with. Don't be trying to turn yourself on- Squat, pee, get around, hold. Yeah, don't be so amped to this going different places. Please accept me. Please. I wanna be down with your clique. It ain't never gonna work like- No it's not. It's like trying to join a gang. Right. It's like trying to join a gang and whatnot. And this is different types of rule when you join gangs and stuff. You know, I don't wanna go too deep in it but what I will say is on when it comes to my understanding of those organizations and everything that is an organization. It's not based on feelings and emotions and compatibility. That shit always in the same way. And what's that way? You can look at it, whatever it like, think about it. When motherfuckers be together for years and years and they break up, it ain't necessarily got to be cause somebody was unfaithful. It ain't got to be cause of financial. Sometimes motherfuckers just want freedom. Yes, Lord. It's just about fucking freedom. You hear women every time you go to the club, oh I was married for 20 years. I don't wanna be 49. I don't never wanna be 49. I just wanna live my life, my kids is grown, my bills is paid, I got a big old pretty house and I live in there by myself and if I wanna spend a little time with somebody, I can do that. But as far as needs, I'm good on all that. People wanna be free. You shouldn't pander that to someone that wants to come up over you. No man, it's not that. It's just that whatever you feel like you have to settle for or pull back to be with somebody else. If you're a man who's highly successful and you make a lot of money and you fall in love with a woman because she's beautiful and you know she's not as financially literate as you, it might take five years, 15 years or 20 years of her fucking your money up before you say, no more. I can't take this. I love you. I gave you everything I can give you. I raised my kids. We sent them to school. Everybody grown. Now all I wanna do is get my money back right like I had it before I started fucking with you. Man, look at the price. But you bought your love. But you bought your love. Look at the price you paid for that. You bought that. You wanted what? People wanna talk about compromise. You made the compromise to be with somebody who you knew had a weakness. But love ain't compromising. Love is. Yes it is. No, is it? Damn, that's deep. Cause people will argue that it is. It is. It has to. It's 100%, well I don't know. That's a good conversation. That's all that shit is. No, it's not compromising. It's a partnership. Taking me as I am. No, it's not. Yeah. Taking you as you are is me compromising. No, it's not. So, Jack, if you meet a woman tonight. Okay. That you wanna take and make her your wife. Hold on. I'm saying if you meet a woman tonight, where the fuck you gonna live at? Your house or her house? We gonna live in my house. Somebody gotta compromise on that decision, right? And taking me as I am is ignoring everything I want. Right. You might have it dead-setting in your mind that you and your wife gonna be the owners of nine vehicles. The lady you fall in love with might say, don't nobody need that many fucking cars. Somebody gotta compromise. That's all this shit is. How many times can we agree with each other? You disagree enough times, guess what? The shit don't fucking work no more. It's a good conversation. The shit don't work no more. And you don't learn the amount of times that you having to compromise and say, damn, I ain't getting my way again. Damn, we do everything you wanna do. I know if it comes down to me and you making a decision, it's gonna be what the fuck you say. Okay, now my new question is, how much compromise is love though? Because at some point, too much compromise is... What are our boundaries? Yeah. What are our boundaries? Means you don't have boundaries. Too much compromise means you don't have boundaries. No, we gotta have boundaries because boundaries equals super respect. Ooh, there we go. And we cookin' now. You gotta compromise. Cause you both gotta agree what the fuckin' boundaries are. Nah, you don't gotta agree on my boundary. Okay. Right? Cause you... Yeah. Yeah. She get tricky. Yeah. You don't gotta... If you don't agree... How much is too much for you and how much is not enough for me? Yes, Lord. And that's a weird spot. Now, how much of that can I focus on? And I'm looking at 500 over here. I'm trying to run this bag up and all this confusion about... You understand what I'm... Look at all that, man. Compromising. What is that? And how much compromise? Oh, what about boundaries? Hold on. Now, respect got to come in some way. But we say what we got to do. Okay, but let's also... We gotta tell the truth, too. Don't just say no shit that I want to hear. Tell me what it is. What is expected of me? And I'ma tell you what's expected of me. I don't like that kind of conversation with no motherfucker. Cause if a woman showed up and told you what you expected right away, it's gonna be a red flag and you gonna get the fuck... Okay, but that's good. Don't waste my time. See, you're not gonna see it as her being direct. She told you exactly what she wanted. I take it as most women not to know what to expect. Right? Cause I know most men don't know what to provide. No, most women think that they can change your mind. That's true. But I think that most women don't know what to expect because most men don't know what to provide. So I take it as when I meet a woman, I'm gonna do what I do. Whatever I do need to translate into what it looked like for a man to be in your life in your opinion. If it don't, then I'ma take it like you dropping the ball. But your example before me is gonna always lead to your understanding of a guy. Right? So how do I know whether or not you are prepared for this type of situation I'ma put you in? And for me, I just don't think love is something you can play with like you. I don't have the time, man. I don't have the time for it. So you're saying that love should be transactional? No. What are you in that from? On some level. What did you get there? I didn't say that. Wait, what the fuck did you get there? He agreed with me, dawg. So you don't know what you're doing. I don't wanna agree with you. I don't wanna fucking try. They're gonna take that on the internet. So I don't agree with you. But on some, I use the wrong word. Love should be an exchange. An exchange of a barter. That could, you could put a thousand words in that blank spot right there. What do you want and what am I willing to give you? Man. And what do you have to offer? See how many different angles you could take from that? Yeah, I do see what, I'm trying to see what's good for me and you seeing what's good for you and if we can meet in the middle. The best way to fucking put that shit is just like, love is just like being with two, it's like two people trying to rob the fucking world of everything they want. And they just gotta figure out the best way to get that shit together. That's it. That's what it's all about. And if when you go back and you split the fucking rewards, don't know one person should get more than don't nobody else. Do you know what I mean? It should be a fucking split. And like shit, you don't get more, you don't get more than me because you drove from the robber. You did what I'm saying. Right. Now, what about, but you believe love has no compromise. I believe, now that I'm thinking about it, that you have to compromise because male and female are two totally different species. So we don't naturally want different things. And so that's gonna naturally be some sort of compromise. That means you would never fuck with nobody who wasn't even just remotely just a little bit with the same sex. The same sex don't got to compromise. That's not, no, no. Yeah, we like the same thing. No, we don't. No, we don't. The same sex? No, we don't. Okay, help me understand what you're saying. I don't like none of this shit you like. Okay. Yeah, I don't like none of this shit you like. I'm pretty sure. Okay, so if you have a woman, you saying that there's no, you said love is not compromised. Yes. So how do you explain her being a totally different species? Like she's a woman. She comes in, her understanding is different. What she wanna provide is compatible. But the understanding for her to translate it gonna have to have some compromise there. Let's say if you, this was 85%ersmeet.com. Right. Oh, you're gonna have all these different boxes that you check off of things that go inside your personality and things that you are willing to accept and things that are deal breakers. Yes. Yeah. And so you got to find. But the way you put it is, that means if you had a checklist of 100 things and somebody checked off, 99. You ain't messing with me. You ain't fucking with me. That one compromise, you saying no sir. Oh, no, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. That's not what I mean. All right, so we wanna just clarify that. Okay, this is what I do. That's really what you're saying. This is what I do. If I can get 90% of my boxes checked and whatnot, I fuck with you, that makes sense. All right, so what I'm just saying though, you said 90% right. But you see those 10 that went unchecked. That 10 that went unchecked. That's the breaking point. That's the breaking point. But if we over 50, we doing a great job. But I'm just saying, it's for like you said, the sake of argument. You ain't love. She ain't checked, but just enough. She checked 51 out of a hundred. Well maybe. And you say, you know what? I love her so much. I don't give a fuck about them other than that. I love her so much, maybe I'm gonna keep her close as a compatible friend. But guess what? How long you think- You think them 40 to 49 gonna go on with that? They'll hold on as long as you make it comfortable for them to hold on. What does that mean? Unless they're talking to somebody else? Yeah, cause I mean, I would take it that anybody I'm dealing with has, should have some kind of options. I mean, you shouldn't be sitting on the wing unless again, it's comfortable, right? Well, this is the best you got right here. I'm keeping it honest with you and then I'm checking off 90% of your boxes. Nope, that's the thing. See women gonna act like you and you ain't never checked off none of their boxes. She was doing you a favor. I'm not gonna let you do that just a few years. Look how much credit you gave her. You gave her 90, she was 90% perfect for you. Soon as she don't fuck with you no more, she gonna act like you should have never even been able to fill out her fucking boxes. That's fact. I've had that before. I've had that before and then me and her was able to get to an agreement that oh, you was just upset with me at the time and I'm sorry I made you feel that way. Look at the compromise you had to make. Why don't you wanna compromise? Something didn't happen to you. Oh, hey, there's a bunch of shit happening to me. Yeah, all the shit was your fault. Because people may adopt that behavior, not understanding that that's a result or something. Stop trying to be the victim all the time. You know what the fuck you did. Don't you dare put me in the victim's trap. You did, Jack. You know you weren't shit that part of your life. I was everything. Ray, you wasted that later time. Well, those latest time like that. No, I was everything to them. They were lying to me. Right, they should have. They was lying to me telling me this is what they wanted, but it wasn't enough and it wasn't happening fast enough. Well, that says a lot about you. What does it? What does it say about me called? That you fucking over-promised and underdelivered. Hey, I said, no, I said give me some more time this shit finna happen. No, and it didn't. Because women ain't gonna leave you that day. She had been asking you to pick them fucking draws up and shit. And you just kept doing that shit. You just kept doing it. I got one eye for God's sake. You got it in some shit slot. That ain't no victim shit. Yeah. That's not victim shit. When have you ever used your one eye as an excuse out of anything? I don't do it too often. Right. You just gonna act like you didn't see the shit you was doing. Okay, maybe I might have left my draws. Accountability. More than five or six times. Accountability. Maybe I disrespected her by, you know, let something go on a little bit too long. Yeah. Across her boundaries. And I can admit to that. Maturity. But it's petty. Yeah. And it's something that we can get past. No, it's not. No, it's not. It depends on whatever the perspective you're looking from. I don't leave the toilet seat up. Now, one thing about social media and the internet error technology, it made everybody think they had a whole lot more options than they actually do. It brought the world closer. Right. Everybody think that somebody better out there just waiting on you to just post that you were saying, nobody give a fuck. That's deep. Nobody never gave a fuck that you were saying. Nobody never give a fuck. Nobody never gave a fuck that you were saying. You know. You never heard the little person never with you. Right. That's an individual that take you all together. That's the only individual that's affected. Oh, look, until them follow you, you forgot all about that. You ain't doing nothing but showing your ass. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to ask y'all this, how long y'all been doing comedy? Shit. I remember. Back when I started doing comedy, you can get a coke for a nickel. Nah, what is it? Shit. It's about to be 18 years almost. And if you don't get it like that, if it ain't them type numbers. Yeah, dude. See, we're going to, I'm going, yeah, it's 17 years. It take a long road for this shit. How long you been doing it? Since I was 17, and I'm 40 now, 23 years. See what I'm talking about? Take along that craftsmanship, but boy, some of the best people at it, when you get that up under your belt. When I was riding, I was listening to that episode, what Dool was speaking about, the kings of comedy being on tour, and how that affected comedy clubs. And I said, damn, that was deep. Like people will hold their, I'm not going to see, butting them. Right. And just think about that. Your innovation, because they will be innovative with that. They felt like, man, this is going to kill it. Us three together, that's going to smoke it. Or us four, that's going to smoke it. But it was affecting comedy club. That was a deep conversation. Do y'all remember that? You remember that? I went to go see it when I was 17. That's what turned me all the way on, man. I went to go see it in Philip Serena. And it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. You know, them doing they thing in front of 20,000 folks and whatnot. And yeah, I had to sneak in again, to go check it out the next night, man. And it fucked my head up. Yes, Lord. You know, to see somebody like Steve Harvey going from Steve Hightower to turn into this guy that says, you know what I'm saying? Choice words and then to see Bernie Mac and his prime, like he just breaking out. Them dudes was, and they taught me inflection. Them dudes, like Bernie and especially Harvey. Oh man. Like they would get into certain things and they inflection just was, Harvey would go into another voice, Bernie would go into, like this shit was just, that was dope, wasn't it? DL beat it too. Yeah, DL, all of them. That's what I'm saying. Just that it's like, again, you develop that when you understand that I have to separate these characters in real time, like on stage. Man, I was talking to this girl. Look at her, she looked like the type of girl that I say, and you go into another voice. And say it, whatever you was. That was the professionalism, man. That was the years of working in the clubs and putting it on the ground and just, you know, like being present in the moment. Like you said, I always having something ready. I really like watching Kings of Comedy. I don't feel like they wasted no time just getting to that shit. That's what it was, yeah. And then it felt like everybody got to get off a bulk of good, funny shit. Up different perspectives. Bits, yeah. What did nobody, you know what I mean? Different bits. You know, nobody talking about the same shit. And it's just like, it gave everybody their own shine. How long did they do? What was it, 30 minutes since? About the 20? 20, good, just boom, bam, bam, boom, boom. Come out, swing. Yeah, they was coming out, swing them. I'm fucking them up. Burning man come out, just bam, yes, to me. Burning man did 30. About 30. He closed. Because he was the closest. Damn. That's deep. Yeah, there's definitely something to see, man, for a kid in shit, live, with all that energy around. Like, man, what the fuck? This is amazing. I remember one time when I was in fucking, maybe like, was it 10th grade, I think? Probably 10th grade. I went to a comedy show, it was like, I know for show Ricky Smiley was the headliner. He used to kill it too. You went into 10th grade? Yeah, man, it was at Ole Miss and I know I went in like, you had to be like an Ole Miss student. But you know, he's from Oxford, we figured that shit out a long time ago. I remember when I took my girlfriend to see Ricky Smiley one night and they were like, some kind of way, we was late or some shit. And it was on like a campus building and she like, he came around the corner and she was like, that go a little down. And I was like, he probably hated that shit. I've heard. Yeah. You know, he was, but yeah, because sometimes you get caught into that viral, whatever take you, they know you from that, but do them. But that's black people nature though. Yeah. We gonna call you who the fuck we say you on TV. Like dude, they play them power out where you have, he show up at his ghost. Nice ghost. Look at ghost, man, playing us such and such. Mike F's gonna always be day-day. Pirate. Who else got that tag on them? Shit, you be around Ice Cube longer than five minutes, you gonna call them Craig? You got that Craig on them. Hell yeah, it's a lot of black people like that. Yeah, I just can't thank them, but it's a lot of them. It's a lot of them. But when y'all, when you look at, how many people harbing them head out there? Oh, you talking about like 20,000? Shit, Leon gonna always be David Ruffin. Oh yeah. Oh, JT Matthews. It's a lot of them. Or Lil Richard. Come on, man. Yeah. It's a lot of them. But see people, the girls like Jamie don't nothing stick to him. Cause he named himself Jamie on the show. I'm over here, I'm over here. But see it, even if he go do those movies, those legendary roles still don't stick to his like, that's the, but that's what you just said. That was just shit. Nigga, if you saw Tyreeze, you and you branded Jamie to begin with. You ain't gonna say, you ain't gonna say, I ran into Tyreeze, you gonna be like, nigga, I'm out here with baby boy. With Jody. We got a lot of them. Steve Erkham. He can't shake it for shit, no matter what he do. Steve Erkham. Oh my God, it wins Lil. He might be the worst one. Steve Erkham may be number one numeral on the okay. He branded it to him later. He branded it to him later. Yeah. That brand stuck on him, boy. He shook it. I feel like he shook it. Yeah, he, but give me something better than Steve Erkham. Give me something better than him. Oh my nigga Tyree Turner, which was Kane. It was over him to shake Kane. Give me something better than Steve Erkham. It ain't them, they're Debo, there it go. Debo, Debo better than Steve Erkham. Oh, Debo or Steve Erkham. Smoke, now Chris, now Chris did too much. Chris grew up out of that smoke. Y'all called him Smokey all through Russia. Yeah. And they was on four, showing up. But now I think the battle is, damn, I think that's the battle. Steve Erkham and Debo. But we should all be so lucky to get a memorable role like that. Right. Hey man, you listen. Felicia. Carlton. Carlton, Felicia. That's the four, that's the Avengers. Felicia, Carlton, Steve Virgo, and who was that? Seely. Debo, who? Big worm. Big worm, that's another hard one. But Seely, Whoopi Goldberg will always be Seely. Brumman, you're definitely right about your Brumman. Brumman. Steve Erkham still sticking out to me though. I ain't boy, all these is hitting hard, but that motherfucker, Erkham, it don't matter what he do. No, he the biggest one. Yeah. He got to be. He got to be. So you said that was doing 20,000, 20,000 Steve Harvey now. Yep. How many be at Wildin' out? How many do that be? 10, 20. You know what I'm saying? So that's something. A lot, a game. Hell yeah. I know we done had at least one show about that. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know now, but when I was on it. It's a different vibration though, like even that crowd reaction and shit. That shit is like, you got to say something and then give it time. Yeah, it do. It ain't no instant. It's a different timing from the live show to the live, from the live recording to the live show. It's a whole different show live. So you're pacing is different, the time is different. And that's me on the outside and all. Just understand and just technique with even communication. I'm knowing, boy, that's a lot of people to entertain. Hell yeah. You can feel it though. Like even backstage, like it just, you can always tell when the show about to be crazy. You can just feel the energy just all around the arena. Yeah. Should be hard. Right. That's what's up. Tell them about the show, man. Oh shit, bye, man. I don't even know what we're going. Hey, April 30th, we will be in Denver, Colorado. Oh, theater. Please. A three headed monster tour. Hey, you're not, did I say it right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the behind us on this green screen. They got to get it to me. I ain't smoke nothing yet. We just gonna put behind us on the green screen. That's what's up. Three head monster. Three head monster. Put your bitch behind me. Put your bitch behind me. Three head monster. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. April 30th, if we got a big storm coming from the left and we're going to bring it down, it's called a three headed monster tour and they're going to come in and they're going to sweep the whole city. Right. Put your bitch behind me. Whatever. Yeah. They'll go theater. Little haggie there. We back. Yeah. Yeah. I really got a three head monster. Oh, you got to go to the hospital. I did. All this show girl, Lex P, and I have a very special announcement. Well, I already announced it, but I'll let y'all know again, we are going on tour. It's starting in June, y'all. Look, we're announcing it extra early. So y'all got time to get your tickets. No excuses. We got LA, Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston. Now listen to me, because I know how y'all get. We are still adding dates. I repeat, we are still adding dates, but if you see your city right now, go ahead and get your tickets. If you don't see your city, don't worry, we're still coming, okay? So make sure y'all go to www.poorminds.com and get y'all VIP meet and greets. We all saw it, boo. Welcome back to 85 Self Show. Number one show amongst people who owe you money when you ask them about it and say they going to call you back, but they never do. So you know what you want to say to LeBron when he actually does reply? You've been thinking of that, huh? Yeah. Huh? I don't. I just, I'm interested in just understanding how it even, how am I even getting on Kevin Durand and all these people, LeBron and any of their radars. I don't even understand. They're wild to watch Lil Baby. Yeah, Baby got that reach. Yeah, yeah. He got that reach. Baby, that's my guy. Shout out to Baby. That's my brother. Shout out to him, a real one. Yeah, for sure. That's my guy. Four pockets full. All the way out there. Four pockets full. Back outside by Baby. Yeah, you been out, you been care, you got some classics on the early side already, jumping out the gym. Man, grateful, thankful. Keep doing your motherfucking thing, bro. Appreciate it, brother. What you want to take it to? Five hundred million. Dollars or views? Five of views. Oh, okay. Respectfully to my fans and supporters, but now five hundred, they get that. You know, when Rogan did a breakdown, that's five hundred million. Right. That's three years old. So me going in the future, asking for that, should be respectful to the market. Right. And I plan on putting the work in. And I understand how and where to put the work in. That's what's important. You got to know what a leak at in the house. You understand? I know exactly what a go to patch it up. I know what people to speak with. With material to use, all that. Right? And so I feel comfortable about it. And I got a few people who won't invest. I've been carrying it myself. It's been a hard fight. Right? You know what it's like to own a company. Yeah, I know a little something about that. So it's a fight, you know? But I love it. I enjoy it, bro. This is life for me now. When you feel like, what was your break out? My break out in regards to. In regards to like, damn, they really like me. They really, really like me. As much as I would want to think it came like, boy as much as I would want to think it's coming like one thing, it's a collectable thing. It's like I see it forming almost like a, you know, like a child, you know, growing up. You know what I'm saying? It ain't like just it show up as an adult. It's like, it's like, I'm seeing it grow. Where it's like, damn, it started right here. Well, kind of C-list celebrity, D-list celebrity. And it started to creep up. Damn, a CEO of a company. Damn, that company reached out, damn. And it's just like forming into it. And I'm just grateful, bro. You know, I'm just thankful to be. I was telling Ryan that like, people tell me just, man, how you do it? And the companies are trying to, they put me in a position where they're trying to figure out what I'm doing. They almost like they're trying to think it's some kind of formula, some kind of, I'm doing something. I'm just talking. You know what I'm saying? I ain't doing nothing but being me and people like it. So I appreciate the people for supporting it. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere I go now, somebody know me and I don't understand that. You know what I'm saying? Like I still ain't wrapped my mind around that. Even when you say my name, Russ reach out to me, Kevin DeRene in my DM, just meet me or read like, it's just every day somebody is hitting me. And it's just like, man, you didn't know me. It should resonate with people and it's giving people that look like me. Say, man, maybe we can do that right there. Cause just like y'all inspiring comics, I'm inspiring dudes that come out of the jungle to say, boy, if you had to survive in that for real and you can formulate an opinion and understand content and algorithm and a couple of these things, you might can put yourself in a position. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think it was something that I just noticed where it's like, and I'm still growing into understanding it, right? I don't get negative comments. I bet I will now though for saying some stupid shit like that. But, right. You just wanna know what it feel like. Go and get it at your system. It's just like, bro, people really enjoy and I'm just, I'm ecstatic. I'm excited about the market. I understand it. Like I feel lucky. I feel like, oh, I understand it. This ain't one of them play-play things. Dude, understanding he know what's going on. What a tap in that, how to tap into it. What the business, what the value is. This is important. What is worth and what it costs. Some people just focus on what it's worth. You got to know what things cost to it, right? Cost and value. Yeah. What you mean, you break that cost down for me. Right, so the cost of doing business, the cost of sacrificing whatever it is, right? So even from a business perspective, we can start there, say you get a million dollar check. It cost to run the business, the building cost, the lights cost, the travel cost, the hotels cost, right? So that number look different in regards to on camera, talent, right? Versus running the business. And so there's a cost associated with it, but some people say, man, the business, they got a million dollars. Because they don't know what it costs to run the business. They think that that million dollars should funnel all the way down. You know what I'm saying? So, and also understanding what it costs when you sacrifice to even get where we going or trying to go or where we at. We sacrifice something to get here. This is not by luck, especially when you say 18 years or 22. Nah, this is by desire. Right, so we need our 500 million too. Yes, Lord. That's all I'm saying. When did you figure out your worth? Was it in comparison to what Joe Rogan's doing and just how you measure it? Oh, they giving away some money like that. The market tells me the worth. And for me, I don't know my worth yet. I know the goal. Your worth and the goal are two different things. My worth, I'm trying to distinguish, right? Cause I'm having seven figure means with companies and I'm trying to understand, is this a low ball? Is this a fat number? What is it worth my reach for baby to come to me on this rollout? What does that, what does that mean? You know what I'm saying? It's important I don't skip past these things. Me and PQC, shut up. Love him forever. We talk about those kind. I try to talk to him about that. Like, what is it worth this reach? Right, for me to be able to, I just did B Marshall and Fred Taylor, right? This is the IM athlete beef. They won't talk to the same person. If you talk to one of them, you probably ain't gonna talk to the other one. They don't do that. It's a problem now. I just did both of them. So what is that worth, right? What is me being able to reach out the lowest and come to 85? What is that worth? Cause these companies can't really do this. They not tricking me. What is this worth? And so I really still don't know the worth. I know the value of the market because of what Rogan warranted, because of what Carl her daddy's doing, because of what my brother Walo and Gilly is doing, right? And so you see the market warranting certain numbers and that's my, again, I'm information based, not emotional. I ain't saying 500 and some people probably think that's emotional. He did think he lack, not it's information based. Somebody got 500 three years ago when they deal played out. I understand the market. All right. It might be valuable as fuck. It might be worth 750. A billion. You know what I'm saying? How do we know? You know what I'm saying? They say Kanye West ain't a billionaire no more. I disagree. I think Kanye West value is still his value. She wants you to learn how to do it. His contracts and agreements are no longer in place. You know what I'm saying? Well, what's your value? What's your value? Do you know? No, I'm trying to figure it out right now, right? 89.50. I would say you got a pretty good understanding of your value. You know you too. You understand what, you know, if I go on tour, I warrant this. An appearance warrants this. The market says this, you know? I know my value. Very fucking well. That's good to hear though. People need to hear that. I generate, I make money. It go further than just, oh, I'm coming to your city to sell out a show. Think about it. My fucking gotta get a haircut, gotta get an outfit, gotta go get some eat, gotta go get some weed. Then they gon' go to the club after the show. They gon' smoke some hookah. They gon' eat again. Then they gon' stop on the way home. Pay for parking. Pay for parking. Nigga, I been making money all week before I got there. The ladies didn't want to go. They had done. Nigga got a haircut. They done watched the cars. They hope you don't understand. This is important. Right, this is value. They came to the shit. They bought the tickets. They bought food. They bought drinks. They bought some more drinks. They get by drinks all the motherfucking night. They done spent $200 when they got there. Two, three hundred more per cup. And I know there's 20, 30, you know what I mean? You add this shit up all around here. Can you still, is there a way to tap in there? These still concession prices. Is there a way for- These 20 dollar hot dogs, you're a full company to buy from me mother. Ain't got a choice. Got you hung up in here lying long. If you move too far, you might lose your seat. You shit like that. You got to know how much money, it's not about how much they can pay you. How much money can you generate? That's how you base your pay scale. All right, make 20. What we going? Louisville, Kentucky. Man, to the who? The KFC Yum Center. We ain't got no KFC, yeah. But it's going to be at the Yum Center. Is it Louisville or Lusco? It's Louisville. It's definitely Louisville. Louisville. Yeah, Louisville. It's Louisville. Louisville. I need KFC to bring us chicken, bro. Is that close to the Kentucky Derby? It's in Kentucky. I mean, but is it close to the day that we going to be there? Hey, man, fuck all that. Bring me some bluegrass. For real. Hey, Bubba Johnson going to be there? Bubba Johnson? Yeah. That nigga. Bubba Johnson, Ralph Horses. He the NASCAR. Kentucky, I thought that was a car. No, nigga, that's- Hey, man, come to the show. Come to the show a little bit. That's perfect. Bring the horn. You know what he said. Yeah. You can come, you know what I mean. That's the NASCAR, dude. Yeah. I thought I could take Derby in the car. No, that's the- That's the dates on the 500 that you got the Derby. Ain't no way to- That's why I won't take you no fucking way. Hey, man, get your tickets. May 20 at KFC Yum Center. Shit, take me to the horse and then he's like- You got that, y'all. Yes, you got that. I always thought I could take Derby with a horse. I meant with a car. Hey, what's up? It's Carlos Miller. I hope you're having a good day. Try some of these candles from my favorite candle brand, Good Day Sense, candle company. They are black-owned and have lots of different scents to choose from. Use my code, L-O-U-S. That's low. You get 25% off your entire order or offer. Let me see. Oh, yeah, we got Sense like vanilla, pineapple sage, which is my favorite, Egyptian amber, all types of freaking shit like black love. You got to go on there and check them out. So when you see these candles, just know that I'm having a good day. You know, these candles have been approved by everybody that we ever presented them to from Snoop and even Beyonce posted these on the website. This one right here, I think. So go hit the website and grab you some of these candles. Do you say you don't know? Yeah, I think access to value depends on the market, right, when you understand what you can want. Right. So that's why I always laugh at people who say, who try to tell you what success is. It's motherfuckers who come in through your city two, three times a year, who ain't your favorite at nothing. But they got a market of people who come out and buy everything that they sell from the $20 hot dog to the $30 parking spot, to the $50 t-shirt, to they fuck with what they got going on. Okay, nobody tell you, hey man, you keep doing that same little thousand seater ass arena every year. You ain't never gonna move to the Fox. Yeah, we're doing great business over here. All right. So you want me to do one show at the Fox or you want me to do three at this look? Or you want me to do three at Santa Stan? Yeah. Come on, man. And then again, again, those numbers, I'm looking at the information, not how you feel about seeing 10,000 people at once. I'm looking at five shows. If you want 10,000 motherfuckers to come see you and want 10,000 motherfuckers about your shit, would you rather have a thousand people come to that shit and support you or 10,000 motherfuckers who just gonna come in? Trying to get out the house. Right. Yeah. Do you, which I'll sell at tickets, you know, ticket master is not just ticket master, but the service and price on ticket sales, it's a weird thing. People are bringing attention to like, say you want to reach your fans or I want to reach one of us who want to reach our fans for $25. And we put a ticket out for $25. By the time they get through, it's for this $2, because there's some kind of weird processing, servicing fee that the creator doesn't get. Insurance. Insurance on what? The venue. On each ticket. Yeah. That amount of money. If something happened to every, if something happened at the venue and it hurt a bunch of people, do you believe insurance is a scam? Cause some people say that. Of course it is. That's why it's legal. All the legal, all the best records ever. Yes. They want you to pay money in case something happened. They know something's gonna happen. Oh man, that's weird. That's servicing fee. That could be money in your pocket. You the one selling the ticket. You got to keep in mind this shit. Once some shit go to the internet, it ain't, it don't apply to real life no more. You don't know, like, it's gonna say that you buying the ticket cause it's digital, right? It's a footprint. But you're not really buying no ticket to this venue. You're not buying that space. There's no processing happening. Exactly. So they're charging a process. No, the process is actually you buying this shit online. Yeah, and that happens. Back in the day, there was some sort of real filing of some, you know what I mean? There was some sort of system. Now there's literally the internet that, cause I process payments for my store, for my merch. But that's what I'm saying. Even you have to pay that. That's a, but it's a fake thing is what I'm saying. Yes. There's no real processing of anything. What I'm telling you is, the process is you actually using this shit online. They got you, man. That's the process. The transaction fee. They're charging you. What does that mean? That means that they're charging you to spend money on the internet. So for them to take it from- You would not be here for no other reason if Carlos Miller wasn't selling a ticket to this venue. No. So what they're charging you for is, to use that platform. I think it's unreasonable. It's for you to use that platform. I think they've cornered it. Take this money out your electronic bank and put it into our electronic wallet. There is a process. Somebody had to write a process. Not anymore. Back in the day. It's a white man that wrote this shit on it. Every time somebody make a transaction on the internet. It's like a broken- He can get paid off this shit. Yeah. No, I know it's a real thing. I'm saying it's a fake thing. It's real in the fact that it's happening. It's fake that it shouldn't be happening. But loon, we can't do that about it. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, but it's just identifying it. It's just saying, damn, that's a weird thing. And it's becoming, I guess I'll say this, it's becoming a problem for some of the bigger acts. They're starting to draw to it like, who is it? I guess Cyrus, I think it is. Taylor Swift, I'm sorry. Taylor Swift, just, you know, she sells out crazy. So she did like 1.5 million sales first week. She had an issue with this. She would put tickets out and the servicing fee was so crazy that she took the tickets off. Like I think she shut the whole thing down. Good. That's what I'm saying. Because it's extra money that she's not seeing. And when you are earning this business, you start to come through shit like that and say, yo, that's an extra 18 million that they touching for a benefit of a second. But Taylor Swift is only getting 30% of whatever the gross of a concert. So if it's $2 million to put on the concert and whatnot, she's only getting 30. Taylor Swift concert costs $2 million. You tell her no. Now she can do a million dollars for the stage and then the promoters do. I think she only making that. That's what they say. She had $10,000 tickets. For one show. See, that's what I'm saying. Just relax. She had a kind of ticket that was embarrassing the numbers like you, $13,000 for this ticket right here. That's why she was upset. Understand the servicing process and fee on $13,000. Hold on, tell me. You don't think Taylor Swift was getting $2 million or something? She's waiting more than that. Taylor Swift not coming out the house with no fucking $2 million. This is Taylor Swift. No, you said $2 million. Let's be clear. You said $2 million including budget for the show and the stage and all that. Her production is more than $2 million. She got, it's way more than that. It's Taylor Swift. This is one of the biggest artists in the world. She'd guarantee sell out whatever the motherfuckers come. $10,000 ticket. She had $10,000 ticket. That was easy. It was embarrassing. She did a million with internet, with bootlegging, with what you have. She did 1.5 million with 1,300 plays being one stream. She did 1.5 million first week. And a lot of that was, she did some kind of hard copy of vinyl or some kind of thing. They're getting crafty with the audience. That's what I'm trying to tell you. This is deeper than just, this is how things are. This is like, hold on. They're profiting on the backs of creators and creators are starting to be like, hold on now, we ain't going, we starting to let us get a little bit of that or cut that down some. You know, or not, that ain't cool. Get that right. Now you got an $18 million ad and 80% of those ads ran on my show. Split that up a little better. And so those conversations are getting louder. Yep, that's the game though. But all that shit is, it's different. Like it had to be Taylor Swift. Like I said, she's one of the biggest artists in the world. And now that that did happen with them jacking the prices of her tickets up and shit, they're gonna have to investigate the whole shit now. They could have just kept going on until somebody like, it's biggest hurt come through. So it's actually better for the game that this shit happened. That's what I was leading to before we went on. Not even the processing fee, just that. I'm glad you said that. Deeper than that. They said these services, and this is allegedly of course, but these services like Ticketmaster and stuff had a system where as soon as tickets go on sale they go out of sale. So they would buy every ticket themselves, boom, and then shoot them to the reseller market. So now if I'm just a regular fan that like you, I can't even get a ticket because they did some kind of weird work around to shoot the ticket over to the reseller market and make money as well as the processing fee. Okay, check this out. That shit, that shit is like a... All right, so you know it's a whole bunch of ticket scams that they can run, right? I think that whole shit is a whole racket because they never gave out too many tickets. They always gave, they know exactly how many, in that motherfucker, but if they run in the scam like they say they are, why they never know over abundance? You get what I'm saying? Scam is in the process. That's what I'm saying. So like you said, they trying to make it seem like, oh, it's a scalpers or whatever, bots or whatever. Nah, it's them. Nah, bruh, that shit is already sectioned off. You get this section and then you do this. Now they say sometimes they will let a few go out, but for the most part some of them real valuable little, right there by the state, bruh, they instantly, as soon as they gone, them gone. Yeah, them gone. You're like, hold on, what was that? Next thing you know they for sale over here on this little third party site. And it's like, damn, that's a... They gon' find out that all them little third party sites is really just back though to the main site. That's what that, that's basically, yeah, to sum it up. And so it's bigger, it's like, if you a ticket seller, y'all dudes gotta know how valuable that is. It's comedians, even if it's 200, 300, 500, that's a valuable thing. Like he said, to get somebody to come out, get a haircut, like, that's a valuable thing in this market. That conversion, very little people can convert people these days. We just see that, sweetie, shout out to sweeties on the file for having 12 million followers and then selling, I think they said like 2,000. Because the conversion of the people that follow you. She must have posted the link. She posted the link, but it's a conversion, it's a conversion. You know? Ain't no way. You don't believe something. She ain't tagged herself. Oh, but what is that? She don't like. Tapped 12 million followers and they say that, you know, try to get to me. And I don't want to attack her because a lot of the weirdo dudes are like, I don't know what it is. There's so many different ways to, because subscriber base anyway these days. So she probably, people are just listening to on Spotify and the Pandora's and, you know what I'm saying? They're pretty much not really downloadin' like they used to, right? Ain't no download. Ain't nothing, but baby did 215. Drake did 355 first week. This is screened. Oh, okay, whenever man. And so what I'm saying is maybe it was a marketing thing. Maybe that was a, right. Maybe they lied. I should've reached out to her. She should've came on my show. She should've maybe came here. Maybe they lied. Maybe they lied, you know what I'm saying? 2000 sales, right? 12 million followers. But what I'm more so speaking to is the conversion. What if she did more than somebody favorite artist and they had to make it look like she ain't sell shit? You could be just a publicity stunt. Now this shit might come out next week due to 200. Everything on Instagram that come on your feed might have her music playing on it. Trending on TikTok. They made six million video. How? The game dirty. Have you figured out what makes you go viral? I think that's something that companies want to know from creators. You can't call it these days. Yeah, it changes. It changes. So we define as hell though, the sidebar. See, that'd be the type of shit make you go viral. Can you afford to pay her bills? No, we didn't even try. Well, she ain't finding no nigga who can't pay her bills. No, she fine. I just know, I know, I know what I'm. She gonna say I'm not pretty to no nigga that can't pay my bills. That ain't my, that ain't my, I'm not fine to him, I don't really want to. Fuck it. Let me see him. Look here you girl, you good. Let me see him. For what? I want to know about how much it cost to talk shit like that. Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't buying no Lambo truck. I know that much. She ain't even. But you a stretch far as you can for sweetie though. Keep it real. She ain't even. She's right. You a stretch far as you can for sweetie, keep it real. What, what? No, no, it's some, though, you know how many- She get 80% of your monthly bucks. No, she can't. Let me tell you something. There's some sweeties out here that ain't sweetie. It's a gang of sweetie looking like. Boy, you bold as hell. You bold. You bold. Hey, I'm wrong. You bold. Am I wrong? Mm-mm. Am I wrong, said the cap. Would you pay for them though? Would I pay for them? If that's all it took to have them. Man, if it was, if the most 150. What's your limit? A month. $150. A month. What? I do $150 a month. That's cool. Come on, Jack, let's be realistic here. That's what my book- Let's talk serious. That's my book. I'm dead at serious. I don't, that's my booty budget. So you don't like girls like sweetie then? I mean, I'm- You ain't having sex with girls like sweetie if that's your budget. 150. Yes, I am. $150 a month. I just had a sex with a girl who looked like sweetie yesterday. Don't- And she let me call her sweetie. There. 150. I disagree with that. Jack, come on, man. Cameras is on. Okay. Time to be honest. 80% of your budget can go to the sweetie. No. What percentage of your monthly budget can go to sweetie? 150 dollars. I'm telling you, and I'm sitting on her face. See how- Man, what that nigga talking about? See how crazy this nigga is, bro? What that nigga talking about sitting on somebody's face? I'm talking about real shit. Jack, man, stop, bro. Just stop. This is my life. Stop, bro. What you doing when you get up, bro? You're riding her face. Jack, man, stop. You don't want to laugh. I told you, man, we don't like the same thing. I ain't know you. I told you how to ride her face. Yeah, I know how to ride her face, man, yeah. Niggas up here with one eye riding her face. Oh, they in the hallway. That's a bad man, now. With the rope. With my last up. All right. And the cowboy had a- It'd be dangerous, boy. You ain't tell me what's wrong with you, man. And some tube size. But anyway, you know, I don't know, bro, like- That ain't gonna cut it, Jack. You'll never have a woman like that on 150 dollars. Child, please. Okay. You single? Yeah, I identify- What type of quality women? Let's not talk about the quantity. Because sometimes we get stuck on the quantity. Now I got them, I got them, yeah. Let's deal with the quality. Now, when you say quality, right? Oh, hell. Now, put me on, what does quality mean? I want to ask you, clarify quality to you. Okay, if you say quality to me is that she got a beard. Available. Quality to you is available. Quality to me is she got a job. She can take care of herself. You brought your status down, lowering the mother fucker. Right. Man, what, man, who is these hoes y'all talking about? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Where you, what's going on? Like- Y'all talking about some old goddamn- Damn, who is the new model chick? But let's keep clarifying quality. You ain't got them like that, Jack. She got it, huh? Jack, you ain't got them like that? I mean, it's shit. I mean, it depends on- You said she got a beard. She got a beard. That's big. You got a beard, you got a place to stay. You got food inside your refrigerator. You know, basic necessities. You telling me before you had sex with a girl, you go make sure she got food in her refrigerator. I don't make sure. You want me to believe that. I don't make sure. I don't make sure. Yeah, I'm trying. You know you're talking to me, bro. No, no, I understand what you're saying, one of them. Yeah. I'm dead ass serious. I'm not like saying, hey, do you need grocery money or some shit like that? So again, so that's what is quality. What is quality? Because you said you got food in a refrigerator. Yeah, quality is women that don't charge you for pussy. See, that's available. That's low standards. That's some bullshit. Low hanging fruit. Yeah, that's bullshit. You know, this is high hanging fruit. That don't- This is at the top of the tree. I ain't necessarily saying that don't charge, but that feels nasty. That feels nasty. You know, you see what I'm saying? Hey, bro, y'all- It seemed like you're ignoring the standards. Y'all are getting fools go right now. What are you getting? I'm getting just normal everyday women. They ain't got no necessities, no needs at all. They taking care of all that shit they sell. Yeah, for $150 a month. That's if I had to do that. Stop playing, bro. What about you? And we talking about Uber Eats too. And we talking about door dashing. Yeah, go ahead, Carlos. What? That's what I'm- What do you think, bro? My booty budget. But what the budget would be? Right. For the old girl? Yeah. No, this is what you're willing to pay. Not pay, it's sound nasty. See, we can't call us paid, us paid. Contribute. You know, this, we ain't talking, he tricking. We talking about officials, his woman. You talking prostitution right now? Nah, nah, that ain't what I'm talking. You don't think I'm talking that, do you? Nah, I'm talking this your woman. Like, this my- Oh, this is my woman. Oh, you see her fake change in there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you're trying to clear it up for the woman. No, I was talking about, I identify as single and I'm dating. So we talking about my, what's my booty budget? Bro, stop saying shit like that. Yeah, we ain't talking about that. That's fucking weird. Let me pass the ball. Yeah, man. Go ahead. Yeah, what's the budget, brother? That would, it would cost me. Right. Ah, shit, I don't know. Cause I'm looking, I already had the number in my head when I think the monthly, her monthly bills are rare. Well, you take that number. She is, she seems to be excessive as hell. Yeah. Extra, I would say somewhere between a rough nine and 12,000 a month. And just in bills and shit, yeah. And I was right there with you. Oh, that's what y'all willing to do. No, we say we identify in the numbers here, sir. Okay, got it, all right. Can you handle something like that 9 to 12? No, I can't. And I'm not gonna try. Yourself, can you yourself without beloved? You yourself. Can I do that for myself? Are you living that way? See, if you live in that way, it don't seem so uncomfortable to talk about. Yes, I get if it's reaching up a whole wall now. I see the baby. I'm going up to nine. No, you ain't finna trick me into this bullshit. I'm asking. I see what you're doing. I'm asking. I see what you can do. No, I ain't doing nothing. I definitely, I definitely spent it on me. How much you think a bad bitch costs a month? Yeah, good question. Okay, you talking about, you talking about doing them girls, getting their ties rotated on them and getting their radiator flushed and all that other stuff. We ain't talking about the BBLs and shit. Yeah, I'm talking about just bills, the car she drive, the kind of house, the condo, the shopping, the hair, the whatever you helping, this your woman. Okay. No, this shit. Her maintenance. Yeah, her maintenance. All right, so I took this girl out the other night. Oh, here you go. No, dad, that's serious. Dad, that's serious. The number tag, the number. Okay, that's a number. Well, she didn't try me like that, though. But if I was just- Why is it getting tried? It's financially, let's have a conversation. Yeah. What's going on financially where every time you're spending money, you feel tried? Yeah, you got a financial demon or something like that. Yeah, what's going on about feeling tried about somebody you love? We talking your woman, I keep clarifying this. We're not talking about that. I'm hoping that this registers somewhere that we talking about your woman and you keep tapping out. I apologize. Can we start over? How my name is Jack? Okay, go ahead. All right. All right. For my woman, I guess what reason why I'm doing that is because I never spent that on a woman before, 12.5, that hasn't happened, or even a 5,000 a month. But if you're spending on yourself and it's your love when she's coming into your area. Well, yeah, I'm kind of on some Bruno Mars type shit. Look at you, that's what I like. That's what I like. So whatever I'm doing, that, you know what I'm saying, if you just happen to be there, this is what it's gonna be. Can you handle somebody that's used to 12,000 a month? No, no, I can't even. Even if they share your lifestyle, not you funding it. Because I'm trying to identify why it feels so nasty to you. If your lifestyle is 12,000 a month or nine, let's go with the logo. It's just unnecessary, bro. It's just in my mind right now. Your house might be 4500 a month. That knock-off, that leave you with 5,000, then you ain't got but 5,000. What kind of car you driving? I got it dropped off. What kind of car, your woman you love, this giving that you riding her face, you talking about riding her face. What kind of car you got her driving? Oh, I always bust her. You wouldn't even, look how big you, you one of them kind of need a ride in her face. That's right. What you got her driving? She had already had a car for us, she came in for me to ride her face. You don't think if, when she got out of her ride, she came to get on this ride? That boy hard cold, man. That nigga full of shit is what he is. Okay. That's what my life is. I'm realistic with myself. Y'all are the ones over here talking that shit. Turn right. Let's go back to bro. Turn right, bro. Let's go back to bro. See how you- Y'all are the ones calling Capredick over here. What's Capredick about that? Y'all talking about some spending 12.5 on the motherfuckers and all this over. We're saying that we're identifying them. That number scared him so bad. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some financial is happening. Ain't nobody going to ask you for shit. Yeah, man, something, somebody got over on, you done made some bad investments or something. Ain't nobody gave you all about this shit. That nigga, they're harmed, man. Y'all over here, supercap, that's what you're saying to me. Yeah, Capredick. 12.5. I thought that we were talking about what we was doing. Is that what my understanding was? Did I misunderstand them or did they misunderstand me? Or am I tripping y'all? We're identifying numbers. Every time we say a number, you run and get in a hole. Yeah, you- Hey, listen, I'm pretty sure that Saweely, she is worth every bit of the 12.5. I'm pretty sure she is. All right, let's keep identifying numbers. You identifying worth, we trying to deal with numbers right now. So we believe it's nine to 12,000. Is that acceptable for a quality of woman like that? It really just depends on the situation. Right. What did you come in here with? Like, I'm saying this- What if that's her status? Like, we can remove her. She probably used to weigh more than that. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying this ain't with no help or no niggas or nothing. I'm still thinking that just the bills that the house is about. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. A good 12, they might- I would say anywhere from nine to 15. Yeah. It might get up there for real, especially if she got a little condo here and a big crib out here. Right. You know what I'm saying? Didn't them bin lids and shit ain't- That shit is like- You got it? So that mean you can afford it? The fuck you need to send them to my money for? Nah. I'm sorry I interrupted you. Go ahead. I'm just- What if- I'll be able to stand. I don't know. That you comfortable with? Just think about it. Even if you pay a third of that. Every month. Shit. Nah. It's bussier up, but that niggas doing that shit with ease. Easy. She ain't bussing that shit straight down. Niggas she don't even talk to shit. That's why I can't believe you having that sex with them kind of women. Like if you not ready to be that nigga, you don't need to fucking- Don't compete with them people? She got niggas and she ain't never met in real life sending her three-four thousand dollars a month. That's why I know you ain't hitting them kind of women. And they might be six to seven to eight of them. Yeah. Yeah. This is how I know you ain't having sex with them kind of women because the volume is high over there. And niggas with the shit that you say you wouldn't do, niggas that ain't never touch their body gon' do that monthly. Hey, I ain't fucking a type of women that ask for shit like that. Oh. They all ask for shit like that. They're all asking for shit like that. Like you keep saying- They're required, I'm sorry. They're required of that. They all do. They just ain't asking you for it because they know you don't have it. And you come off as financially had a heart attack or something. I'll take it. Right. They only gon' ask for what they think they can get. I'll take it. I'll be there. I'm not saying like you look like- No disrespect, yeah. Now I don't feel disrespect. Yeah, I hope you don't because you might- They just might give you some shit. And now the motherfuckers who was gon' try to get anything off you gon' be like can't ask that nigga for no more than six to seven hundred dollars. Praise God. But I'm saying- Don't you ever ask me for shit? Your woman can't ask you for nothing. Your woman. She can't afford to live a decent lifestyle. You want to ride her face. She can't afford to live a decent lifestyle. He, you is riding faces. She can't afford to live a decent life. Them kids' mama. Man, that lady can't get a good car. You're riding her face. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Adele. Them kids' mama. Man, that kid's mama, man. She can't. Them kids' mama. Oh, you got to be lying, man. Them kids' mama. Them kids' mama, man. You getting on that lady's face, that lady, he got a good car, man. You wrong, man. I got it, I got it. Yeah, he assesses with it, too, man. You know you wrong, you assess him. I got to think about the kids, man. Man, they kids' mama, man. Jack, I'm glad somebody else see through your bullshit, man. If they be thinking, I'll be too hard on this nigga. No, man, he tripping, man. You be a little rough with me, bro. I know by your requirements what you willing to do. You gonna keep lying. You gonna jump straight off the bed on camera, saying I'm riding faces, and you gonna be the whole thing. But you don't believe that I'm riding faces? I believe you can, too. Hell no. I ain't saying you ain't riding faces. I believe you will pick a bill up. Any nigga ride, any listen, bro. I'm paying Hulu bills all day. You can't convince me of that when you jump off the roof with the I'm riding faces, man. You ain't saying I'm getting a conventional interaction. You jump off the roof. I'm riding faces. They let me know. Oh, he paying. He got a little something going on. He'll pick a bill up. Come on, man. I told you I'm definitely gonna do that Hulu. So women out here just fucking you for free just because they like you? Yeah, just as simple as that. Yeah. I'm a very likable guy. I believe that. You believe that? You 100%? Yes. Jack. I'm super likable. Hey, man, nigga, I feel like you judging me right now. What do you mean I ain't likable? Because it's what you're doing right now. You saying if I was a girl, I wouldn't go with you. I wouldn't let you ride my face. That's what you're saying right now. I'm listening to what you're saying. You think women out here fucking you because they like you. Why is women out here fucking me right now? You want us to believe that, too. Not only do you believe that, or you're saying that, you want us to really believe that. Well, y'all don't let me choke. Hey, listen, no, I don't. And the sexual experience is explicit, and you ain't paying for it. That's what you want me to believe. Man, listen, I can do it. Listen, I told you I'm doing Uber Eats and shit, and I'm providing experience. I bet it's a woman watching this right now saying he a lying, dirty motherfucker. OK. No, it's a woman watching this right now saying, yep, he closed his ass up on my face. Ain't this a bitch? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. He don't went there, ladies. It's a couple other bitches. He don't went there, ladies. I ate that moon pie, too. He don't went there, ladies and gentlemen. He has arrived. Yeah, you didn't get way too comfortable. You're tripping. Oh, shit. Oh, shit, what are you doing, cram bro? This nigga. Yeah, I get it. All right, listen, that's a different question. Boy, that nigga dangerous with that. You day, you very comfortable with that, boy. I'm super comfortable. Yeah. And that ain't a paid vacay. No, it's not. You want me to believe that's company time. This is company time. That nigga want me to believe that comp. That ain't a paid vacay. That got to be a pay. No. Let me ask you this. That's a different question. I see you comfortable. What you doing right here is you putting some bait out there. You want a woman to know when you see me coming your way. I'm interested in this hill. I understand what you're doing. Let me ask you this. Put it right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. I see it, man. But you got to pay. I want to be clear. No, I'm fighting for them. You know, nigga riding faces in your car bag. Hey, have you ever thought to yourself just for one minute that there's women out there that love getting their face rolled? Yeah. But they need a good car. And you a nigga on wildin' out. Dick. Shit. You a big nigga on wildin' out with one eye. And you riding my face. And I ain't got a good car. That ain't happenin' in 2022, bro. But let's move forward. You be surprised, bro. I will. I'm surprised. Oh, because they like you. Yeah, just because they like me. Let me ask you this. What's a comfortable number for you to spend on yourself a month? Let's see if your financial trauma lives even within. OK, you talking about my fund budget, right? No, no, no. You're comfortable you livin' that house, with all my bills and everything that's comfortable for you. Probably like low end. Yeah, let's go with a low. 2,100, high end, 2,500, rent it all. Yeah, rent it all. Yeah, you doin' good. Yeah, I live below my means, way below. Yeah, you doin' good. That mean you got it to spend. Yeah, I don't need a lot of shit. That's a signal to the women. You got it to spend, y'all. 2,100. But I ain't gonna spend it. You should have whatever you should want, but not for me. 2,100, that's a low number. Yeah, I don't need a lot of shit. That's dope, though. I respect the fuck out of that. Yes, I got, yeah. Tell me the secret. How do you do that? Well, it's just me. I don't have kids. That's one. That makes sense. Like I said, most of my outings or experiences with women is like private chef-type shit or Uber eats and shit, something just real modest. It's not crazy. It's not. And I don't wanna sound crazy, but I wanna sound a certain quality in 2022 is attached to a little bit of crazy to a man that's spending 2,100 a month, right? It may feel crazy for her to say, let's go to this spot and the meal, 1,100. That ain't never happened. That's what I'm saying. That ain't never happened. No, okay. Okay. That ain't never happened. If she needs- What type of women are you dealing with? In regards to someone like Sweetie, how many notches up or down would you say someone can fit into that 2,100 dollar? Well, no, no, once again, man, you can have sex with Sweeties, women that look like Sweeties. That's what I'm asking. You saying that you do run into Sweetie-type characters. Yeah, I'm free now and then. And they are out there. Every now and then. They are out there. They're hurting for certain though. They're hurting for certain though. And you got a little fame. It's just hard for me to believe somebody- But that's what makes it easier. That's what makes it easier. What about that, Lowe? What? He said the fame make it easier. That's why he do it for free, cause the fame. Oh no, I don't know. He got a different kind of fame. He out here, he feigning his brother. And once again, I say what's on my mind. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it just be what it is. And if you don't fuck with it, I'm cool with it. I play the numbers game with it. What's the number? We've been asking you. No, the numbers game is, hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? So you're faking it. Hey, how you doing? You want to fuck me? Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? You know, that can't come off as thirsty. You don't think it, you don't think you're- Hey, hey, Spratt, all right. Do you look like- Obey your thirds. You don't think you look like you panhandling pussy. I'm cool with that. If that's what you want to call it, if that's what it look like to you. You cool? So you would just pretty much lock in with whoever say yeah. Nah, that's not true. Obey, that's what it sound like. No, no, no, I lock in- That's what you said. No, you saying availability is your only requirement. You want to fuck me? You want to fuck me? Hey, hey, listen. That's the availability. No, no, no, listen, listen. The shit, the women that I am attracted to. I'm hearing low self esteem. Mmm, let's identify what we hear. Low self esteem. Hell fuck with anybody that didn't say yes. What you hear, not yourself. You hear high value, man. What you think Kevin Simon you're saying? Don't you say it. What do you hear when you say these things? I'm hearing. I don't believe in myself. Oh yeah? That's what you believe? Yeah. I'm down to earth. What does that mean? Down to earth. See, that said broad. See, yeah, yeah, man, fuck it, just the same shit. I don't like it. I'm information based. I'm down to earth. We all down to earth. What does that mean? I like who like me. I like what I like. That's availability play on. Yeah, I take availability. Yes, I'll take availability. Yes. So pretty much all it takes to you for a woman to fuck with you, Jack, is for her to agree to fuck with you and you like her. That ain't cool, bro. I'm trying to tell him, man, I'm trying. Especially with fame, I'm gonna give you. I know what you're doing. I know what you guys are doing. I'm trying to show you a better way. Okay, okay, let me ask you this. What am I doing wrong? And how should I be going about it? You're settling for anything. You think that you're gonna get something for nothing and you're trying to get over. What else in your life do you? Maybe I like who. It makes me quit. Maybe you'll settle for one because you too scared to put in effort to have what you really want. And you know that there's always gonna be an abundance of hoes who don't require nothing but a little hundred-fifty dollar little group, Chris, or some shit. That's all you gotta do. You said all you do is fuck with me. Hey, listen, listen, I love everything you just said right there, but. That ain't uncomfortable for you. How old are you? I'm 40. That ain't uncomfortable at 40. No, I'm not uncomfortable at all. Uncomfortable with that being the requirements. No, I'm not. Of a 40-year-old man on television with the fame, making the money. Still ain't got no hoes. Involved in everything you involve with, you don't believe that at 40 years. You got many hoes you didn't see me bring through here. What? Now being with hoes that only requiring hoes is a difference, right? Some people in Dole, you saying? Let's see, that's what I'm trying to get you to understand. You talking about, you talking about hoes, right? She was gonna do that because she a hoe. She needed something to do. What I'm saying is, you could have had something of higher quality that you actually would have really wanted. I know that's right. But no, you don't want that. Yeah, that's right. That's why he wins that life, because he has no problem being that. He don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. I wonder how you landed that. Like I'm just saying mentally where you can land right there and just be like, well, I'm there too. It's like, yo, whatever decision I make it is for. You know what the difference is between you guys and I in this particular subject right here. Right. I'm learning a little bit. Y'all over here, y'all over here playing towards the camera. I got people depending on me. I'll be in 100. Listen, I got people right now depending on me. Y'all feel exactly the way I do. You're just not honest with them. Okay. All right. You're gonna just make it. You selfish. That's why you always gonna have yourself. I know that's right. Are you playing on having children? That's some point of. Hell no. Nah, I'm cool on it. I feel you. You gonna watch them. I am. I'm still tripping out them kids' mama, man. Them kids' mama too, bruh. His ass off, man. That's nigga. Now she's a sick nasty motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that's who might need to be somewhere talking to some damn buddy. That's fucked up, bruh. She out here letting Jack goddamn ass wrestle with her. That car can't start. Just because the y'all are not into that. You know, doesn't mean there's something wrong with me. Damn, Jack. Yeah. You gotta do better. I know that's right. Y'all just gotta start being real with these folks, man. Y'all better start lying to these people, man. You start lying to yourself. Why do you identify that as a lie? Help me understand that. I just don't feel like you guys are being genuine right now. I understand why. With the way you're dead. You don't think that we have people that's looking. Oh yeah, that's 100%. That's gonna say he lying. You don't think I got people right now looking that thousands of dollars depend on me every month. That's looking at that camera. Well, bruh, you don't think nobody dependent on me? Maybe this is not your image. Just lying, bruh. You guys, maybe this is not your image. Most of his money. It's a girl somewhere probably in New Jersey, someone to my, well, he on that lying cap because that nigga sent me 60 something thousand dollars that one year. Ooh, I got it right here. Yeah, Jack, you just talking loud because the receipt saying came out here. You're probably the biggest trick in South Georgia. They be buying bitches all type of shit. Cause anybody with that kind of value, you see? Right. You don't know about to eat that motherfucker much. You don't keep giving me a burger, giving me a burger. You fading everybody. You keep, you just told me. We go, we get my channels and, you know, my favorite spun divots, all kind of shit. Is your home something where they say, wow, do they feel like they're with somebody? I got a basic condo. All condos is, condos is a vibe. Yeah, yeah, it's a vibe. Yeah, it's cool. Yes. It's cool. I like my place. You said basic. Yeah, I got a basic condo and it's cool for me. I'm not, I'm not the guy that flexes. That means it's more shit. I'm not the guy that needs to flex and show you everything, got guide and all that other stuff. You ain't gonna walk in the house and see stacks of money just everywhere and all that. Stacks of money. You know what I'm saying? People do that? Niggas be flexing now. Nah, that's true. Niggas be flexing. You walk inside the door, it'd be a shoeboxes, a couple of dollars hanging out in the gun, sitting on the goddamn counter and all kind of shit. Who the fuck need a gun on the counter? It's all right. Hell, you be surprised. That's kind of like one of they little avidijac plans and shit. Oh, he dangerous. Got a gun on the counter. You spend a lot of time thinking about these things. I can feel it. Let me ask you this. No, you have partners and stuff, you go over to the house and tell them like, this nigga here. He doing that for you or the woman? He's doing that for the women. He's not doing that for me. So the woman's coming over while you're there? No, I just came by, you know what I'm saying, for some stove top stuffing and I'm leaving. I don't identify what we're saying. Right? You say he do that for the woman. He's flexing for the woman. Yeah. But you see it. Yeah, but I saw it. But you didn't see the woman. She wasn't there when you seemed to set up that was for the woman. Well, I'm not looking for her either. So, you know what I'm not saying? Hey, is there a woman inside of your house while I'm here right now? She might been there when you was there. Okay, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay, I understand that. And I'm not going to listen to this. Let me ask you this. Kanye West got his design stolen from him. Yeah. From Adidas. How you feel about that? I just also read that he's still getting paid off of the shit. That's what I was going to say. It ain't stealing if you know they took it. Yeah. I don't even think they took it. I don't think they took it either. I think he's saying some shit and it is what it is. Yeah, I think he knows exactly what he's doing. I feel sorry for him. That nigga good and he going to be all right. Right. He good. I think they've identified something in the contract where he signed it over to. Do you think he could build another billion dollar? 100%. He know he can. That's why he don't give a fuck about getting out of this contract. Yeah, yeah. He definitely. That's actually going to be the least of his words. All he got to do is find out a way to get out of this shit. I think he done sparked a war though. I think that he thinks that he just going to spark up some social media stuff. But I think that they going to take this and 20 years down the road still be pulling and tugging at him about that. You know what? That's a multi-billion dollar deal. You got to understand the gravity of that. That's not like a, he just wrecked a multi-billion dollar to get out the whip with them folks. You see what I'm saying? And they, I don't think they play it fair. Like you keep seeing stuff coming out. Oh man, that's not it. Yeah, the thing that I thought he was fixing to do, I thought he was fixing to team up with Trump and run as his vice president and whatnot. And you know, they, Trump disassociating from everybody. Yeah. Elon Musk, oh yeah. He's just, Well then again, from Elon too? Yeah. He said, call me dad or I ain't coming over on Twitter. Right? So he's playing a public, like he understands public, he's trying to separate. He look at everybody as all, you ain't clear about being with me until you make it 100% clear you with me. Like, you might run. I got the, I got to box you out. Elon, I don't know where you staying. You on Twitter now. I just bought this other truth social thing, box you out. Stand on my own over here until I figure out exactly what I'm doing. That's what I think. You know what I'm saying? I mean, she just got interesting. I mean, the things that I thought that was going to be predictable is nowhere near it right now. You know? I don't know what the fuck is going to happen now. Hell no. But I am interested, I'm entertained. By who? Trump. Just by Trump, Kanye, Kyrie. I think he was a Trump supporter. Say it again. That's support, that's, that right there. Say it again? That let me know everything right there. That explains it all. Fucking Trump supporter. No, that's not true at all. That's not true. You don't want to spend money on black women because you don't want black women to have fucking, you don't want to bridge the pay gap. You don't think black women deserve to get paid the same amount of work. The 100%, I think black women deserve the world. Because you don't want to give it to them. And you want to ride their face and not provide them. I'm disappointed. I ride white women's face. I'm disappointed, man. I ride white women's face, Chinese women's face. You're obsessed. Mexican faces? You're obsessed. You're fucking weird on that. Look, we'll be in here talking shit all night, man. We ain't get the fuck out of here. Yes, lord. Loom the goon, man. Drop your shit. Let them know where they can find you at. It's up that podcast. Also, the experience podcast. I got two different shows. The experience podcast. Go check out Lil Baby's interview. Go check out B-Marsha's. Probably out right now. Fred Taylor, Maul from Joe Budden. Just all kinds of names. It's up that podcast. I just did Adam 22. Go check all of that out. Yeah, man. Adam 22, man. Yeah, we just argue. No jumper. We just argued about the culture. So, you know, go check all that stuff out. Hey, and if there's any ladies that want me to ride they facing whatnot, please DM these niggas and show yourself. So they need to see that this shit is real. Wow. Well, there you have it, folks. Hey, this your first time through the trap. Don't let it be the last, man. You know where we at. Hey, the Man I Set Up Show, Loom the Goon. We out this bitch. You get a photo very quick. Okay.