 Let me tell you Patrick high school in America when I was growing up was idyllic. It was like the 50s. It was sock hops Converse shoes. I Don't think that ever existed except on TV did for my mom My mom went to an all-girls school Know the name high school in st. Louis was all girls back when she went and she's like Yeah, it was exactly like that except obviously no boys So there was that part of the classic story was not there. I see I see what you're doing there We spent the entire pre show talking about you know knife fights and drug dealing in high schools and all of this I was horrified and now that we're alive. You're censoring the reality of the situation in America listen listen Americans will persevere and they will be here in a thousand years. There will be America because Americans have learned to grow up in tough Hard-ass situations and that will it's like, you know, it's hard being steel by striking against steel, right? You know over time is you're gonna have these iron stereotype anywhere Ironclad people with no emotions like Vulcans be able to clobber anyone by just looking at them Yeah, everyone here is seven feet tall and built like a mountain band, right? basically your your your high school environment is preparing you for the post-apocalyptic world That's very similar to our our high schools. I Love that you're making light of all of this when before the show it was like, oh, yeah knife fights like every every couple of days Just a little bit just a little bit You did say drugs being sold and it did happen. Yeah And gun related gang violence in the middle of freshman geography Benny Said hey, there's a doobie on page 138 Well, do you care a picture of a caravan aerial picture? We we did there there's there's a lot of Pot smoking in France like a lot It is probably stereo. I have a feeling that you lived a very sheltered existence I hear I hear they're getting rid of logos on cigarette packs in France that that's a proposed Rule that's been proposed for a long time. It seems to be getting steam again, then I guess I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I think well it never lost even it was always in the you know back pocket not back pocket back burner of a Lot of governments, but they're doing things slowly and the last thing was that they want to basically they don't they want all of the cigarette the packets of cigarettes to be Neutral and to have that the exact same Fond type and all of this so No more blue gal was packs No, I guess not but you know the most popular brand I think is Malboro, so oh can we see brands of cigarettes on this show? Is it like they're not giving us any money? All right, you ready? Don't think it has to do with the sponsor Yes, I was born ready If you donate $10 per month you can say it's 1.4 seconds of every single episode is brought to you by you Head to daily tech news show comm Slash support to adopt the second eye called dibs on the first two seconds have that beautiful theme music This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday April 5th 2016 I'm Tom erid joining me today Patrick Abesha French podcaster formerly living in Finland now in Japan Are you gonna circumnavigate? I? Well, that's an idea For now I'm just trying to stay awake because it's like in the morning and I I'm still heavily jet lagged So I apologize in advance if my I was gonna say if my words make little sense But they usually don't make much sense So I apologize if they make less sense than they usually do listen I am I for one I'm not gonna judge because you are willing in the middle of jet lag to get up at five in the morning Which means your body doesn't have any idea what time it is anyway And you're further confusing it on our behalf. So thank you very much. I appreciate it. I wouldn't miss it for the world, Tom alright Meanwhile, we've got The NFL coming to Twitter. We're gonna talk about that in a bit. Let's start off with the headlines Facebook launched automatic Alternative text that uses object recognition to automatically generate text descriptions of images on Facebook that can then be used by screen readers To make the site more accessible the object recognition is down Is is the object recognition is done by a trained neural network? So it's Facebook's machine learning a at as they're calling it automatic alternative text is available for iOS English screen readers and they say other platforms and languages will follow So weren't we weren't we discussing this about Twitter's alternative text for visually impaired people last Twitters is automatic Twitter. Oh, yeah, that's that's the thing I think when we discussed it last week, we mentioned, ah, but it's gonna be even more Awesomer, which is a word when once they use all of that Yeah, there's all of that machine learning to describe the pictures automatically and Facebook just beat everyone else to the punch. Yeah, some person at Facebook heard that and said Wait, I'll get a load of me Well You know what WhatsApp announced Tuesday that end-to-end encryption has been applied to all communications Messages already received such encryption, but now photos videos files voice messages and group chats due to What's up users the signal protocol from opens whisper systems? Yeah, we talk a lot about telegram telegram gets a lot of press and every time we do we'll get at least one or two emails From people saying and telegram is not that great. You should use signal And so the fact that what's that uses signals protocol, which is open source I think is to their credit and the fact that what's app Facebook company by the way has locked down everything now in in reaction to maybe not I shouldn't say in reaction to it makes it sound like they did it because but in the the wake of all of this debate about encryption and what's that having confrontations with Brazilian Authorities over not being able to hand over things and if you're way if you're if you don't know this already What this means is that what's app doesn't have the key to your encrypted communications? So they can't tell what you're saying only you can tell what you're saying Or say and yeah, and the person you sent it to hopefully of course Yes, that's a good point. Otherwise it'd be kind of useless is a message But yeah, it's definitely an interesting development because it's sort of Further is this This the reality of this world that a lot of tech experts are are describing in the context of the debate Which is you know encryption is so easy to implement actually once you know how it works that there are going to be lots of apps That doing implement it and you you're never it's against that, you know, it's the sort of arms race and you're never gonna be able to Get everyone to give you the keys because anyone can create encryption software. So in reaction Since it's sort of standard practice. It's becoming standard practice. Everyone's doing it So I think people that that are thinking we need to get the the ability to see into those Communications might slowly realize. Oh, well, we need to get in here too and in here and then and and and and oh wait Okay, there are like a thousand of those Maybe that's not realistic anymore. Yeah, and Jankoom who grew up in the USSR and is co-founder of what's app wrote about in the blog post about this about how Encryption that is weakened Endangers you because the bet he's using the argument which we've gone over plenty of times because the bad guys can always use encryption So he says look it is important to you to be able to protect your communications from all kinds of people And so so that should outweigh things anyway not saying he won the argument today, but he has an impassioned defense of it Yeah, and so just to to finish up on this this argument is being made all the time But I think the fact that what's app which is used so much is also implementing it. It's sort of one additional Notch in the belt of I don't know tech people describing how reality is going to become and this is becoming more reality If that doesn't make sense. I think I think it actually did. Oh, yeah Good job Sony will release system software 3.5 for the PlayStation 4 on Wednesday According to a PlayStation blog post feature updates include the ability to appear offline even though you're not Get notifications when your friends come online. Must they're hiding themselves schedule gameplay sessions with friends and the big one install Remote play apps on your PC and Mac remote play let's ps4 owners stream gameplay to their computers You can choose the resolution resolution of 360p 540p or 720p That's as high as it goes frame rates of 30 or 60 frame per second And you'll need to connect to a dual shock for control controllers. You'll plug that into your PC or your Mac Yeah solid update overall interesting features. It's the the streaming to the PC is not Incredible, but it sort of came about when Sony I think Philosophically and business wise they abandoned the idea that they would have only streaming to their PlayStation What was it called TV Vita TV or yeah, please Vita PlayStation TV? Yeah So yeah, they're basically getting on board with what everyone else is doing and I Now wonder if this would bring overwatch to my Mac I know you do it through a virtual machine on your OS 10 installation But I could have overwatch played on PlayStation 4 and then play it on no s10 laptop. No Well, yeah, technically you could I don't do it on virtual machine. You're gonna you're gonna be giving hope to right It's bootcamp a virtual machine couldn't run it And even bootcamp is not I mean yeah anyway, but yeah, you could of course you could stream it from your device, but it's not exactly the same version you play it with a controller and I'm not sure why you wouldn't just play it on your TV if you have it on a console because Eileen's watching flaked on Netflix That's why well, there you go. Excellent perfect Another thing that is not perfect is the fact that the HTC Vive headsets have become Shipping which is good But some folks who lost their place in the line because of credit card processing troubles Have yet to be good to get confirmation. They're back in the right order I would be so angry if I actually got and you know woke up at the right time and paid for the thing and you Know was looking forward to getting my headset and then some issue with the payment got me back in the line And maybe I couldn't get it, you know When I was supposed to ah, that would enrage me how Yeah, no, I I hear you At least they're shipping though I mean, they've got their own problem but we talked about how Oculus Rift is having slower shipping than they expected and All the reviews are out today and out from their non-disclosure agreements and they seem generally positive people seem to like the HTC Vive I got to try one out the other weekend and it was it was good It looked great felt comfortable forgot it was on my head, which is which is what you want I was just walking along a tree is There's a jungle book demo. I got to get assaulted by a snake, but but yeah, so I'm looking forward to mine I I was not one of the people who had a credit card processing problem But I also still don't have an actual ship date just still says April so I'm curious about that Forgetting that it was on your head is probably the biggest prop you can give to the device because that is a really important part of the experience HP introduced the 13.3 inch HP Spectre laptop with a core i7 processor 8 gigabytes of RAM 3 USB-C ports they all can do power or Input two of them double as Thunderbolt ports They're claiming up to nine and a half hours of battery life And this is all packed in a carbon fiber and CNC aluminum frame that is ten point three millimeters thick This thing is thinner than a MacBook doesn't weigh less though weighs two point four five pounds You can get the copper design. That's the standard one There's also some artists that they have hired some designers They've hired to do a midnight blue version with floral swirls and Swarovski crystals and an 18 karat gold accent Or if that's not enough gold for you another one is dipped in 18 karat gold and encrusted with diamonds The non bejeweled copper version starts at thousand one hundred sixty nine dollars available for pre-order April 25th Right I'm not sure what to say about this. This is you know, it's a nice machine to begin with but all of that Golden diamonds and Swarovski crystals. It's so Foreign to what I look for not just in in tech But you know in in everything in fashion and it's I try to be a little bit more Want to jump to it and say well, maybe that's just you Patrick But you are a pretty fashionable guy. I have to say. Oh, thank you. I'm not wearing a scarf today That's because you know, but but yeah, I mean, maybe there is a World where some people are actually looking for this maybe I guess there is Maybe it's just for the publicity that they're getting out of it, too I think it's both I think there's a small amount of people that they can make a little extra money off There this is not gonna make the bulk of their production run though And even the thin copper version is very good looking and that's what a lot of people are talking about today They're like, it's a powerful machine and it looks amazing And and that is the point we are laptops are fairly commodified these days So a lot of times it is about the weight the thinness and and the form factor Well Twitter is adding a direct message button to its Android and iOS apps to make it simpler to share a tweet by direct Message it will appear next to the favorite heart below the timeline Twitter says DMS grew 60% in 2015 and There there was a possibility to send a tweet by direct message But it was sort of nestled in that little menu long press on iOS. I think yeah Do you use that I've never used that that was my thing I like having the ability to DM front and center because I do DM on Twitter from time to time I was DMing today with Christy Cates, but I don't ever DM a tweet and Yet now that it'll be front and center on the app. I might find myself doing it In fact, there was a tweet today where I'm like, well, I don't want to reply with an app But I hope Brian brushwood sees this and I realized as I was thinking that like, oh, yeah I guess I could I could DM that as a tweet. I still didn't I was on my laptop at the time and it's not something I have a habit of but apparently a lot of people do So I think this is obviously Twitter trying to move themselves into a messaging space as well Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's not taking anything away. It's just making it more convenient Okay Yeah, exactly. That's a comment. It's okay Roku introduced an updated $50 streaming stick. This is the little stick. It's now smaller Comes with a quad-core CPU dual-band MIMO antenna the ability to stream audio over Wi-Fi to a smartphone Doesn't have a plug-in on the remote like the Roku 4 does but it can do it through the app The device does not support 4k video just for just 1080p The sticks available for purchase today will ship near the end of the month Roku is also rolling out OS 7.1 today And that'll come to all of its devices all of its compatible devices within the next six to eight weeks Excellent for Roku Messaging app kick rolled out a bot store Tuesday Any developer can build a bot through kick though kick will approve it I'm sorry I'll start again any developer can build a bot though kick will approve them before they get listed in the bot shop Sephora Sephora, how do you pronounce it in English? I know how we say Sephora I don't know if that's right though, but that's what Eileen and I say whenever we go there So Sephora the weather channel and Vine are among the 16 bots at launch Yeah, so not that many but kind of a lot of people are pointing out that Facebook has their developer conference next week and we're expecting to see bots Everybody's talking bots these days right Microsoft obviously made a big deal out of it So we're assuming Facebook will on messenger as well They've they've got a few things in the works that we know about already So kick sort of coming out the week ahead and saying hey, we got bots too Is a cool deal, especially when they you know, they have some brands on board This is for certain the new the new hot thing And I can't wait to find out if it's actually useful Which it could be just because it's a new hot thing doesn't mean it's it's it's all vaporware Or whether there's over promising which is also possible You know, this is super exciting. I mean, I can't really think of another year in the past I don't know why I'm not going to commit to anything but where we've had so much exciting foundational Tech being developed there is VR that could become very important Bots that are incredibly important The blockchain is as we all know gaining a lot of steam. It's everything, you know, everywhere you turn It seems like there is some portion of the tech industry that is Incredibly excited with a new kind of technology and that doesn't happen every year and yep I was just going to move on to another example of that, but you got one more comment Yeah, uh, I could see how Sephora on the weather channel would work, you know Maybe selling you stuff and getting you information about weather but vine I'm curious about that bot. How what way like I want to see the latest vine from scott johnson Why sure here it is. I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure I'm missing something there But yeah, or maybe like, oh, I want to see something funny that there's yeah, maybe that's fine But then I want to see something cute or just being able to insert Relevant vines into your messages could be could be kind of a A company called zipline will start delivering medical supplies to 21 hospitals and clinics in Irwanda by fixed wing autonomous aircraft starting in july aircraft can make 50 to 150 deliveries a day carrying up to three and a half pounds A sim card stores the flight path and payloads are dropped by paper parachute zipline plans to expand into other countries within the year This is so awesome. So it is Incredible and I mean it's already awesome as the principle of it But the the key thing here. I think is the 50 to 150 deliveries a day That's insane. I mean, I don't know how many, uh, deliveries Regular, you know trucks that deliver medicine and stuff do but I'm sure it's not 150 I mean they could carry more obviously, but yeah, uh, it this Another thing about Irwanda is according to this article on and gadget The roads are in need of repair in a lot of locations on the way to hospitals and clinics So again, it's it's an example of you know A lot of places like Irwanda didn't get infrastructure rolled out for fixed line internet But mobile internet is leapfrogging that uh, and and here's another example of like Well, I mean we should prepare the roads but that shouldn't stop deliveries to the clinic because we can use the unmanned fixed wing aircraft. Why not? Yeah, exactly Um, and video announced is it l re or i re that is an eye That is a failure of this typeface that you'd had to ask that So nvidia announced ira vr technology to create photo real images in vr Uh, maybe it's images the eye from images ira Maybe uh nvidia ceo yen Jen sun hwang That is terrible. Why do I not know how to pronounce those names called it pixar like quality nvidia also introduced a gpu engine? GPU infer see I knew I was gonna have a hard time with my jet lag and the japan Things it's finally got you patrick. Yeah. Yeah just at the end on the on the last headline I had to read So nvidia also introduced a gpu inference engine to help energy efficiency in gpu computing Yesterday nvidia announced the quadro m 5500 line of video cards for laptops capable of supporting vr headsets And let me let me let me save you with the last bit of news nvidia having their developers conference You're going to see a lot of little announcements from them coming out And of course, uh, as those of you who follow nvidia know they do like their supercomputers and they've got another one the 129 thousand dollar dg x1 They describe it as 250 servers in a box Seven terabytes of storage eight tesla p100 gpu's to xeon processors all pulling 170 teraflops First 10 machines go to universities, but they're also marketing them as great for machine learning So yeah, that's another one. We forgot machine learning is another super exciting piece of technology The the vr thing, you know, it's interesting The the comments that nvidia was making were We think that vr is going to be great for gpu's and the reaction is kind of like duh. Yeah, obviously Yes, yes, you are not wrong Yeah, it's but it's it's kind of a uh Growth factor that the stale gpu market had been waiting for for a few years now So it's not surprising that any Founder any Developer or manufacturer of video cards and video gpu's is going to be pushing this Any way they can and this line of video cards that is Designed for laptops is another proof of that because i'm not sure how many laptop developers are going to want to do that On their laptops. It seems a tiny little bit gimmicky. Well, maybe but but uh Desktop replacement laptops gaming laptops are are certainly a vibrant sector, right? So if you can sell an oculus rift or an htc vive with a laptop that has a quadro m5500 in it and say hey You can get vr with a laptop. They're going to be some people plunked down for that. I think Yeah, the thing is the quadro line is really the professional Part of the the nvidia lineup So it wouldn't be a consumer product Most likely maybe someone wants to plunk, you know to put in a lot of money to get it But it's it's really aimed at developers the quadro line So I could see this being used in business locations where they actually want to take vr headsets out to sites And then do a site walk through With the laptop right and say like okay, you see what it looks like right now now put on the vr headset Here's what it's going to look like once we've laid it out. I don't know Yeah, no, actually actually you're right. Maybe maybe the the laptop the really vr capable laptop is going to be too expensive Maybe for a gamer, but for a business that needs to take their vr vr experience Maybe around to a site or just in the office. They don't want to go to bc. Just have a portable You you convince me. Well, oh look at that. That's the jet lag talker Thanks to all those who submitted things we used from our subreddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines I I could have played the old monday night football theme and apparently is royalty free these days Uh, so just imagine it in your head because I didn't get that together, but twitter has struck the deal We we thought facebook was going to get it and then facebook pulled out Twitter will stream 10 thursday night football games to a global audience I had to read this thing 16 times before I convinced myself that I wasn't missing something No authentication that's in the nfl press it release. It'll be a global audience in 2016 for free without authentication They paid around 10 million dollars according to bloomberg sources and if that's right They underbid other bidders verizon yahu and amazon were all still wanting this and according to another bloomberg source Were offering 15 million It's still a bargain though nfl evp of media Said it did not take the highest bidder. He did confirm that They wanted to go with twitter because twitter is where live happens and they think there's more cool things They could do to experiment on the platform Twitter's not going to make a ton of money off this because they're just taking the cbs and mbc feeds CBS has five of these games and mbc has the other five cbs and mbc will still broadcast them on the air They will still stream them to their own apps So all the digital advertising for the most part will be sold by cbs and mbc twitter gets a small portion of that To sell themselves, so they're not going to make nothing CBS and mbc, by the way paid 22.5 million for their five thursday games each. Uh, they that's that's 22.5 million each Well, wait a minute 220.5 million for all five. I think it was 45 million For each game. Anyway, they paid a lot more is the point. Uh, verizon Already has the rights to stream these to wireless phones. That's not going away either Verizon streams a bunch of nfl games to wireless phones. Twitter's video will be embeddable. They're encouraging it to be shared They're going to include pregame periscope streams from players and teams and it will be available on the xbox app So you'll be able to put it on your regular television There's so many things that confuse me about this deal patrick I'm so many things to unpack in this it is, you know from the nfl side. It's interesting that they're experimenting like this because definitely it is an experiment They could have gone with a much more traditionally, you know associated with broadcasting Provider twitter is a weird choice for sure. So it's an experiment and they want to see what happens It's weird on the twitter side. We know that they want to be Basically, they're hungry for more reasons to go to twitter and the fact that you don't need to authenticate that is just You know Available to everyone is incredibly important in that in that feature But on this at the same time Is it really in the spirit of the social network? We know that, you know, you have periscope You have video you have youtube that you can embed in the in the in the twitter streams, but a long Form event that you watch how let's imagine how it even works in the twitter feed, right? You you see your tweets that from the people you're following and then maybe someone retweets the The the stream of the game. What do you do you click on it? It goes full screen and then what you're not using twitter anymore. Does it get reduced to a little corner of your phone or I don't even know technically how it's going to work because it's so long Yeah, well, I think on the desktop they'll probably have a special section, right? They do these moments sections, right? So they can they can blow up something like that Where there will be a video in the middle and then a sidebar of like running commentary curated commentary Maybe that sort of thing. So I I can kind of see that They can do a similar thing on on the phone if you look at moments there There are are sometimes embedded videos. It would just have to keep that video at the top and then have a stream below it Uh, I kind of see that I guess you could do that on an xbox app too I mean twitter on an xbox to begin with is already kind of weird And I imagine that one of the ways they were able to convince the nfl to go with them was to say We're not going for the full screen experience. That's what you go to cbs and mbc and the nfl network, by the way Which simulcast these that's what you go to them for we're here for another experience The person who wants to watch live and also see the video at the same time I guess the idea being That a lot of people watch the tv and then look at twitter while they're watching it This is for people who don't have the tv around they can still watch the game So you're thinking this would be sort of an entirely different type of experience On twitter's apps and sites. So you just like moments and by the way, I we don't get moments in france So that's why I didn't really touch of those different But so it would be a different section of twitter that you could go to and Could that mean it works trapellating now? But could that mean that there would be potentially other types of events that could be uh made into I don't know a kind of catalog where twitter. Yeah, yeah sort of embeds a an event of any nature and then has the related maybe Uh curated tweets or maybe comments from your friends related to this thing there It is an interesting idea. I think a lot of Outlets have struggled with that second screen experience idea for a long time and a lot of different people and companies have tried to implement it Properly and to make something of it. I don't think it's quite worked yet People still just go to the second screen for and do their thing at their own pace Maybe twitter could have a way of making it work in that very defined context of one event That could be interesting for sure I'm not sure exactly how it's going to work out, but it's definitely an interesting experiment. Would you Go to I don't watch the nfl. Um, I don't have much interest in this but Maybe other type that would you go to watch? Let's talk about other types because twitter cfo anthony noto By the way, formerly the cfo of nfl That is not lost on this deal. You should you should realize but he's now the twitter cfo He told bloomberg. They want to do other sports. They want to do politics. They want to do entertainment Uh, and the thing they sold the nfl on is something they couldn't sell their own shareholders on Which is that they have 800 million people in the audience They're like, yeah, we only have 300 million monthly active users who log in and post But we have loads of other people seeing twitter posts In news articles on search results here and there we can reach a lot of people and I think the nfl bought it So, yeah, would I use this if the cardinals were playing? Yeah, I might would I watch the oscars this way? Maybe I I don't know And the reason I use those two things is I rarely have the chance to sit down and watch a baseball game in front of the television I'm usually watching it on my laptop already So watching it through twitter would add a little bit to that experience whereas something like the oscars It's usually like get your snacks sit down plunk down and watch now definitely have twitter on But I don't know that I would want to watch it on twitter in that particular case So that's interesting. Um the 800 million number I think is a little bit dubious because that's the kind of thing where as you mentioned they Count everything including, you know tweets displayed in in articles as illustration embedded in articles which Fine, you know, you always have to have the biggest numbers. So they count everything. Okay It's it's significant that it's their audience is more than just the logged in users. That's absolutely a factor But I could see in general, uh, maybe you don't necessarily need to have the The event being streamed on twitter or maybe it doesn't matter Maybe they can get the ball rolling with these events being specifically streamed to twitter with, um The the the you know to get people used to the idea and then maybe you have in Moments or in another section. Um, you have a way for people to get together and discuss around You know and see what's being said about a specific topic happening Um, I think the Oscars would be a super interesting thing Um, the you know, there could be lots of others as you mentioned any big worldwide Uh reaching event politics. I know they're doing things about political debates already Um, I have an interesting maybe it's too far down the rabbit hole here But let's say they brand something around the Oscars or some Uh copyrighted event, you know trademarked event Would they have to pay something to the holder of the rights? What you're talking about there is very similar to moments and I know you you haven't really lived with it But they're what they're doing there. I don't know that they strike deals Uh, they just say hey, this is happening and here's a stream of what's going on Adding the live video to it Is is what's really really different here and and there's two two ways in which I think it bears on what you're talking about One is instead of just saying here's what's going on. You can't see it, but we're talking about it Uh to be able to say and if you want to see it here it is like that's a big deal and that would require deals Uh, the nfl striking that deal is going to bring a bunch of people into twitter I think that don't normally Access twitter and twitter's hoping to keep them around So why would people go to twitter to watch it rather than well, maybe it's worldwide So there are some people that are worldwide and I think the reason it's 10 million dollars And by the way, this gives me a chance to correct myself CBS and mbc each are gonna do five thursday games. They paid 225 million dollars For those five games. So they paid a lot of money Twitter's paying 10 million for all 10 That's only a million per game And I think the reason is they don't expect people to go to twitter instead of cbs or mbc They expect people to go to twitter because they can't watch cbs or mbc at the time, but they can get twitter Right so but would Maybe someone is going to go but as you were saying verizon has uh, the the thing as well Maybe it's just for verizon users. It's just for verizon users Right, it's also streamed on the nfl site is my understanding No, you have to authenticate if you want to watch it on the nfl site It's the nfl network, which is a cable network that it is also simulcast on So basically Unless you want to watch it on tv The the only way you're going to be able to watch it on the web and without authenticating is going to be twitter Yeah for free. I mean you could pay for the nfl sunday ticket and then there's ways to watch it online, but yeah That's pretty much it Yeah, do yeah, it's weird. It's weird It's weird. Uh, I think this says a lot about what the nfl is trying to do and I'm wondering how much of this on twitter's part. I just can't figure it out on twitter's part It's it's it's interesting that they're doing it. Uh, it doesn't quite fit still with all of our discussion I don't quite see how it fits with twitter's identity. Um, and it's oh, I think it does I think it does exactly which is we are where things are discussed live So let's show you a live thing Hmm Okay Maybe maybe Um, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure I see Myself I'm not sure how these two work together in the sense that Maybe it's because I don't second screen as much as other people Um, but I wouldn't go to see a game and then watch comments from random people or maybe If all my friends were watching it that's at the same time I think it's the kind of thing that I need to see happening and experience in Act in reality to get a feeling for it at this at this point I'm not a hundred percent sure how I would feel about it. So All right, well, uh, we want to hear from you feedback at daily tech news show dot com How do you feel about it? Let's get to our pick of the day Eric says the free last pass authenticator app provides convenient and secure multifactor authentication for your last pass account Even works on the free version of last past and Eric works for fire oak strategies He's like we did a technical analysis to validate the security model and we think it looks great Well, I have a link to his findings in our show notes as well But uh, if you're looking for two factor authentication, especially if you use last pass might want to check out the last pass authenticator Send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com. You can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks Our messages of the day are mostly about the idea of payments with mobile devices What's Veronica and I talked about yesterday? fawtsa Likes to do something called apple pay bingo where he tries to pay with apple pay first everywhere he goes I'm sorry. That's not folks. So that's john john from windy billings montana does that Just to keep himself entertained. So he said he's discovered all kinds of places that take apple pay that he might not have guessed Fawtsa, I'm sorry from nottingham pointed us to a Kickstarter project for something called the curve Spelled k-e-r-v Which is basically an nfc ring. It works like a contactless card But then there's a a back end on the web where you can use to add funds to your account, etc chris writes that a food truck near him called cilantro Has moved to a cashless operation He's like this model would not only make contactless payments more of a habit if you go to the same food truck all the day But it removes the need for cash and decreases the liability of the restaurant Mohan has only had two failures paying with samsung pay By the way, samsung pay can emulate a card swipe Both oddities with the point of sale and he says i'm confident enough that I could get by a day with samsung pay And what helps is that I can use it almost anywhere And then finally allison charidan adds starbucks has the brilliant strategy They built their own contactless payment app But inside the app the user can choose to use apple pay to reload the card That way starbucks owns The relationship with the customer, but you still get the security of apple pay and she points out that they use geofencing So her starbucks card pops up on the lock screen whenever she walks into the store It seems starbucks is the only one doing it super cleverly and well. This is this is pretty brilliant the way they're approaching it Um, we still don't have apple pay in france. Um We do however have contactless Payment with credit cards, you know credit cards with nfc chips. It's limited to 20 euros So you can't you know just if you lose your card people are not going to start paying for tv's and planes Without any kind of authentication I was absolutely certain I was not going to like it. I thought it was gimmicky and insecure and You know unsafe and that it was a waste of energy I hated the idea of nsc payments on credit cards I love it. I use it all the time It's you know the fact that you don't need to put the card in and put your pin pin number It's I am astonished at how much I like it So it seems that the the convenience increase with that system is Um It it gives me a way to pay in a second and a half And if I have to go to let's say 10 seconds It becomes less convenient, right? It's the pin system. I'm wondering if phones apple pay and samsung pay and all of those I'm wondering if they're fast enough now. You have to get out your phone You have to put your fingerprint and then put the It's it's uh, I'm not sure how uh much more convenient than the contactless credit card It's going to be It is a little more secure because of the fingerprint Uh, and if the merchant is is working correctly, then it's fairly close to fast because you got to pull out your credit card too, right? So if you're in the habit of pulling out your phone and and you don't have to unlock it You just use the the thumbprint Then it's it's not bad What I've run into is I would like it too Occasionally like I went to a grocery store the other day and I've used it at this grocery store before with no issues And they're like you have to sign and I guess there's some fraud prevention algorithm somewhere that occasionally requires you to sign or put in a pin code or something and I was just like, well, that's weird. You're not supposed to do that. Okay fine But but then I went looked it up and apparently that's that's not unheard of So that happens with contactless cards. You're always just tap and go Yeah, but but it's again, it's limited to a very small amount. Um, so it's only 20 20 bucks 20 euros But so you had to sign even though you had the The thumbprint fingerprint, right? Yeah Some weird thing and it has to do with the amount, right? Uh, if you're if you're buying a small amount, then that never happens according to how How much do you spend at that grocery store Tom? It's like a hundred dollars, man. I was stocking up on groceries Nice. Yeah Biocow has some numbers for us on this I work for a medium-sized credit union biocow rights And thought I could possibly shed some light on apple pay discussion as far as what I can see plus I was pulling our monthly numbers anyway We offer both debit cards and credit cards our credit cards have a rewards point system Of our members who have signed up for apple pay 39 percent are credit cards and 61 percent are debit cards But we see more transactions on credit cards of all apple pay transactions 58 percent are credit cards We believe that these users are more savvy and want to earn reward points with their credit card purchases Of all cards both debit and credit We have out and in use about nine percent have been signed up with apple pay sounds pretty good But if you look at transactions only zero point two two percent of transactions that our members made used apple pay I'd love to be able to break it down to see what a transaction is apple pay eligible and how many of those Were used we are currently in the process of rolling out android and samsung pay So i'm looking forward to seeing how those numbers compare to apple pay Sorry for speaking in percentages, but I'd rather not give out actual numbers and that's understandable Yeah, it's still no matter how you you you put it it's still uh I I don't know if the right term is surprisingly or disappointingly, but it's still small And finally varshah from vivaldi Drop me an email to let us know that the vivaldi browser 1.0 launches tomorrow at 8 a.m Varshah didn't give a time zone, but i'm assuming yeah, that's knowing that i'm in pacific time that time is meant for pacific So i'm gonna go at 8 a.m pacific, but yeah vivaldi browser out of out of bay at the 1.0 version coming tomorrow Can you remind me exactly what special thing vivaldi is for browser? I'm not it's light and fast mostly That's that from what I guess of it. Uh, it's it's just it's it's a sleek browser that's been built from the ground up Excellent, so I'll go check it out or I really thought you're gonna say can you remind me what day it is? I was gonna go there now basically saying I can go check it out now because it's already tomorrow sorry tomorrow in japan Uh, well, thank you. Patrick Bezier uh frenchspin.com is still the url whether you're in finland or japan It's still french spin, right? Absolutely the wonders of the internet. Um, not I took a break from uh pixels this week I didn't do one because jet lag and all of that so no english show this week There are still the french shows on frenchspin.fr if you want a french tech show or french video game show You can find that there the rendezvous tech and the rendezvous je But if you want to follow what's happening for me in uh in japan you can go to twitter I'm not patrick there. You can go to facebook. I'm not patrick as well Instagram I'm even using that and I'm not patrick there too And I'm posting lots of pictures of what's happening in japan which in the past couple of days since I arrived Has been a lot and a lot of cherry blossoms It's incredible how many of those there are and they're all beautiful. Yeah, absolutely 100 agree with that Uh, thanks to everybody who makes it possible for us to do this show If you are already helping the show out. Thank you. Thank you. 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I'm you know I wasn't very fresh when I first started the show, but now I'm I am You you fresh enough fresh enough to uh listen to some titles fresh Let's top of the heap is what's app encryption The blind shall see the blind shall see with facebook's help is to begun There's another yoda quote begun the cross platform wars have to roku gonna stick it to you Uh next is uh dgx one the one stands for quality I mean you at this point there's only one and two votes So We're definitely not in a in a reliable ranking order. Are there any of these roger that catch your eye? I like the vibe is alive because it's funny. Yeah Spectre thunderbolt. No, it's not a james bond movie Um Spectre thunderbolt. Yeah, that's that's good Oh, you know that, you know, it's funny and this is this I read this uh headline that said who let kim Kardashian designed laptops And I read that as la porte who let kim Kardashian designed la porte I don't know why it's just makes no sense It's raining bots It still can't run crisis That's a that's an in-joke if you're like, you know the whole thing of No video card ever made can run crisis at With all the settings. Yeah, right, right, right There's a dubia 138, but that's pre-show. So I don't think you would apply to the actual show, right? Let's kick it old school with bots By big jim. I'll vote that one up because are you ready for some twitter? Nvidia has the power for vr Not patrick bringing you tomorrow today Twitter scored a touchdown Roku gonna stick it to you is trying to get the top DM me your feelings from Carl Maybe we should go with twitter steps up to the live streaming plate Because it's NFL, but it's not baseball. Exactly. It's using them. Okay Are you ready for some tweet ball? Twitter gets sports ball What if there was a sport that did involve ball you couldn't use that it's tweet There are there. I know All the way back in field track and field swimming All right, I need I need a headline you guys. All right, um I like Which one did I like the one with twitter kicking something scores a touchdown? Yeah, twitter scored a touchdown by silver blade Yeah, I think it's it's relevant and kind of yeah twitter scores a touchdown Twitter scores a home run scored scored. Oh scored. Sorry scored got it fixed twitter scored a gold down run Now I can relax. Geez. I was so Afraid that something would go wrong. Oh with the with the connection. Yeah, it stayed solid through the whole show Yeah, that's really good You can go to crap Apparently it's a ymax. I didn't even oh so for so you are on ymax. Yeah. Yeah Um It's but both of them the uh portable router and the home connection are ymax apparently Um Yeah, there's 4g plus ymax and just ymax, but so here you in Kyoto Okay Um, and yeah, that was actually one of the things so next week I'll I'll show up if I'm awake, which I'm not sure how the jet lag is going to To do right. Okay. Yes. Um, and actually we have bryan brushwood booked as a safety net for you So don't if you feel a little wobbly Don't I'm sure I'm sure once you're getting close to like like monday for you. You'll know like This is how yeah, so I'll let you know. Yeah um And then after that, uh, I have a couple of topics I've started to gather for a sort of What my tech in japan experience has been like cool, um, I When we stop the live thing I can give you a couple so you can tell me if it's uh The direction you want me to go with That is the 19th that we're gonna do that right and we're gonna do The What goes on 19th yet? That's the two hour later one, right? Yeah, so uh heads up Folks, uh, yeah, we're planning on doing the show a little later on tuesday april 19th So that patrick doesn't have to get up so really And I'm very appreciative But next week we're doing it at the normal time so you don't have to be as appreciative next week Uh, no big gym unfortunately, uh, that tech does not involve mech mech as yet yet yet, oh, maybe you should do a little snooping about their, uh, robotics industry like Like where where it's at Oh, I'm I'm Yeah, I'm going more with the direction of like everyday stuff and Just regular things that you encounter in your everyday life Rather than robots taking over Well, I mean Let's just say for argument's sake Your everyday life you find out that robots are taking over. I mean that would be a perfectly legitimate topic If if I do I mean we don't know we don't know could happen Haven't been to osaka yet. I hear you know, there might be robots in osaka There you go. I didn't remember any but we went we went straight to the stadium because they're trying to pick up Eileen and tom's wedding present I got your I got your uh, yomi yomi yomi yomi yomi giants. Yes Look it around to see if I have one of those near near the hand. Oh here Still exporting so Um, so two hours later. So that would be Two three thirty for us So, okay, okay Let's see Let me see. Can we see anything? What we can see the top of it. Yeah, you can well here hold on Yay giants But it's like Takahashi I've forgotten who that was. I think it was a pitcher. Maybe He not he wasn't a robot. So Akashi the baseball robot The baseball baseball Okay Giants Which is funny because uh, taiwan the same way they base all their teams off the corporate sponsors Oh carl asks how the frontier internet is working, uh, as you can tell it's working fine And as it was yesterday, but uh this morning, uh speeds were back up to the level I pay for and they have been stable most of the day. So Getting better Is that your internet provider? Uh, yeah, verizon was my internet provider until friday When frontier communications took over verizon's phios network in three locations in the united states, uh, california texas and florida Wow, that's scary. Did horizon abandon? Uh phios Yeah, did they sell it or Uh, well phios is a technology that verizon uses and frontier was using phios already in washington But yeah, verizon sold their fiber networks in those three areas They probably didn't want to deal with, uh It might it might not be like where they want to be In terms of like a business Uh, a business. Yes. Yeah Maybe they just want to focus strictly on mobile And content, I mean they own aol now too All they own all Our So two hours later 19th So that would mean the show starts around 330 And we would do everything that we do normally is that enough to make a difference for you petrick We hadn't actually talked about the yes. It is two hours. I mean it's going to be seven third seven A.m. Instead of five and that is no, I I need to know so I can relate that information of my Reschedule my babysitter. So it's not Oh, are am I making you rescheduled your no, no, that's fine That's actually very serendipitous because I have a night class That evening so I actually needed to extend her time But since the show starts later, it won't have to be that long Additionally, all right. So that it works out. I just yeah, I just make if it works that I'm going to cement it in Uh, as a two hour later show cool I'm yeah, it does for me and I'm incredibly thankful for everyone To accommodate my crazy schedules. It'll be fun. And so We're following the same format with headlines. Are we going to go strictly as a special? Oh, no, we'll follow the normal format. Okay We might just run a little longer. I don't know depends that depends on what we have But yeah, it's a normal show otherwise just a special topic Within the normal We already know what the discussion topic will be that day, I guess is what I'm saying Robots, oh your video froze I did No, it's still it still works Am I robotic? Your your your stuttery to me your video is working It's not fine. I hear you fine Lose your head at your video though. Uh patrick Okay. Yeah, there there was a bit of a hiccup there Yeah, there it must be I wonder if it's a shared No, or something It's interesting or if the the wind blows too many cherry blossoms into the ymax signal it gets degraded Yeah, that's probably what happens. Yes. No, it's back to normal Twitter scores a touchdown But will it score with the fans we'll find out this october We will indeed we will indeed Oh tv zgon says That's the old gte holdouts for Verizon service We used to support them for dsl back in the very early aughts So it may be something about this particular infrastructure that they are like they bought it from gte and now they're just Coffin it back up. It's like, ah cost you much money to support. Yeah Well, Verizon was very bullish on running fiber And then their board of directors said why are you running spending all this money running fiber? You're not making any money back fast enough and so they put a stop to it That's why Verizon fios rollouts stopped And what of the future tom? What of the future? Okay, duke Does patrick just tired or did you're freezing it? Oh, no, I wasn't I wasn't moving. I was just Being very still I am done. I was looking at the Uh, apparently the surface phone would be slated for 2017 Hmm. That's why they're Downshifting on lumia. They're just going to go surface phones. Yeah, they're probably The surface phone will stop production in 2019 Oh It's funny because it might be true because we've seen it before it's cyclical almost it's like It's like blackberry. It's like how many more before they say guy Move it out of hardware Okay, duke. Well, thanks everybody for watching. We're gonna get out of your hair and we'll talk to you tomorrow in your hair So don't wash your hair. Bye