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What's good man? What's going on man? Thank you for coming on the show man I'm grateful to be here baby. Man talk What a boss is talk? Yeah, what a boss is talk man. Let's go. So you said east Texas What part of east Texas are you from long view long view? Okay? That sticks man, so you knew I'll be growing up same street same David Street Any noob I was a kid too. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we've been knowing each other Yeah So how was it like and cuz I heard his story about how it was in long view and how bad it was enough The good times all that sort of stuff for you. How was it like growing up in long view? I mean the bad time was a good time Really, I had a bad time was a good time cuz you know a week. I mean, that's how we knew so but not for your mama though You know mama's be like, yeah, man. I can't deal with this. Yeah, she was stressed out. Yes Y'all be driving us mama's crazy. Hey, that's the best. What happened when the dead ain't uh, hmm What was daddy? Man, I mean prison. I mean, I mean and I ain't saying I'm just saying when the daddy's ain't up here Now my dad was in prison though. Okay, when he was there, he was there though I give him that. How old were you when he went to prison? Maybe man. I'm he was back and forth So, you know, it probably he probably went like when I was four then got out when I was 13 went back again Got out when I was 18. So, you know, did that affect you cuz I think sometimes a lot of guys like me like man The streets was my dad. I didn't care about it. But some people it did affect. Yeah, but did it affect you? It affects everybody it affects everybody, you know, I'm saying that father some series like if you ain't that father ain't Third the streets are they dead? So, you know, they ain't they ain't trying to hear no man Tell them what to do with if you ain't putting that in a pocket Have you put some in a pocket in and the main prison gonna put some of your pockets of prisoners in the streets They can you know I'm saying we can we can come up together. So So do you felt do you feel like if your father was there? You would have done things differently as a child. Yeah, most definitely most definitely You know I'm saying cuz I'm a living witness right now, you know, I come over prison and grab my son You saw I'm saying it's just all about and what if you grab them at the right time you can lead them But I assume the right time the son gonna look up to you You know, he's gonna mind you and it want to be like you if you if you got that mind state But how old was he when you got out of prison? I was 13. I'm a pops too. Like I said, no, how old was your son your son when you got out of prison. Oh, he was probably Maybe eight so he was still really young. Yeah, so you know, I grabbed him and he's on he's on a great path You know something like a whole different pay he on the path that I'm on now. So because the only thing I can think of young boys because you were 13 when your daddy came home at one point and Your daddy went to prison for drugs. Some drugs are doing any of that. I think it was some pimping and pandering and Okay, and jokes. Okay. No, the reason why I'm saying that because a lot of times I don't have heard all these different cases and that's why I'm bringing it up is that You come back you change your life, you know, you you trying to you're not gonna make money right off the bat When you're trying to change your life, it takes a while to build it up But some kids looking at you when you was balling when you were at home, you know Making our money driving nice cars and all that That's what they're looking at was glittering today looking at that man. That's what I want You lame right now. You coming out and doing this. This is you lame. Yeah, so a lot of kids be like man I ain't listening to you even although it's their dad. Yeah, you understand what I mean, man I understand it. I got an older daughter. You know saying and and she was living on my old life She was so addicted to my old life in the old me So when I came home and squared up and switched up my kicks only for them, you know, she didn't like You know, she's out of stories. I'm lame now. I'm a square She now understanding like the square is really the way out the way is the way. Are you able to get through to her? I'm working. I'm still working on it. I'm working. So, you know, they mom passed away. So, you know, she kind of Got that, you know, I'm saying so they Yeah, you got a family and stuff like that, how does she She 15 now. Okay. Okay. So yeah, you still got time. You're still Yeah, she live with you. Oh, yeah. So yeah, you got time. But yeah, girls are different. Yeah, I don't girl some Yeah, we yeah, we picked up. We got my daughter. My oldest daughter moved with us when she was 14 So I definitely get it she 28 now, right? Yeah, no 27 No 28 28 man. So man, just cool How was school like did you play sports when you were younger or did you just are you just was just another hour? I was I was athletic, but I didn't play I didn't play sports because my Mind wasn't there. Like, you know, when I was growing up bad was good being bad was good So I was really being bad You know, I said so my grades when and I was very smart, but I just didn't I mean applied it, you know, you'd be so smart. You know, I ain't trying to show you I'm smart I'm I don't even care nothing about that. I want to play you'll have fun and Nestimized it just so you're gonna have nobody pushing you like hey, man, the grades is important You know, I said get that Go to school for whatever you want and get a bigger bag like what we talking about now So teachers didn't care like, you know, sometimes you hear Coaches teachers that pull the kids to the side, especially if they see that, you know, you might have some promise, whatever They probably you know, and I'm gonna be honest They probably did but you know when you when you a knucklehead You only listen to what you know, I'm saying what you want to hear And and I ain't and they probably said that and that when they wanted and it was a seed They probably were playing it and and grew later on but now yeah And there's a lot of people that was in your ear like they probably did I wasn't paying attention And you probably had positive role models even around the community who was trying to help But but you still want to be what you want to be. I mean, you know, when I got the people that I'm looking up to This is what they doing. So I'm looking up to the dope dealers I'm looking up to the people that's pulling up in cars and and I'm actually really feeling like she If my cousin doing this and my big cousin doing a it's in me, too. Yeah, I can obtain the same thing I got the same blood from I felt like it was part of life You feel me when you looking at that and growing up and seeing that hey, this is part of life But looking back at your life exactly what you just said A kid in that same situation right now feeling the same way you felt back then What would your advice be to him right now because you've been there done that You know what I mean? Yeah, my advice not would be none. Yeah. Hey, man Stay in school man. Get your grades. I'm not like I said I did a song way back in the game telling my same nephew the same thing Malik bad new Don't be like me be better than me. You know saying cuz you know if for a kid at that age right there And that my for me. Hey, man, go to school man. Stay smart man We in a different way this ain't the way, but you know what they gonna say. Yeah, I'm gonna be smarter and your other thing Gonna get caught. Yeah, you know, that's what they say. Yeah, because they are where you know the kids out But hey, I it ain't the kids though It's never the kids. It's the adults. It's the fathers. It's the it's the parents You're saying the kids only doing what they see and what they know kids don't do what you tell them They do it is not always the parent because I've heard you know, I saw my uncle do it Just like you say I'm sorry my cousins. Sometimes it's not always the parents but I say it's the parents because you beat it in their head and You spare the royal you spoil the child You see I'm saying and not saying that you need to whoop them or whatever But at the same time like I'm talking about beating it in a brain like this is this how serious this is like You know saying instead of you know People get you know a lot of kids come from nice homes and rich homes and then my and they sit back and let And you know, they don't be the wildest ones that's coming from the nice home They they wild and that's hard because just like I heard And and it was a big influence on especially the youth our girl that was with dirt. What's her name? What's it? What's his girl name he was with? I ain't kind of forgot her name in DL something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I heard on On the web and I just seen you know, I think it was a real or something and she was like Oh, yeah, I don't I don't I can't have no nigga. Let's see street and ride around with a gun And so if you got little niggas that's looking up like this here and they said, oh, that's type That's type of chick I can get that why I say it started a lot with it with it with the parents With the females as well because females what I accept Yeah, because the dudes are doing a lot of stuff for the females You know that dudes are doing a lot of stuff to get the females if they don't do for the females Money so if the females start telling niggas, hey, man, I'm not fucking with you ain't got no job You ain't got nothing going for yourself. I ain't with that You gonna you got my life in danger by fucking with you I might be in a car with you and get killed cuz they want you and and they start telling them in the real They're gonna be like, yeah, man. I got a file. It's gonna be a bunch of dudes like real talk Well, okay, you you you you come up Youngster doing your thing you end up bumping your head and having to go do some time Just give me a little spill on just how you end up getting in the system Just fully street just fully fully being in the street was it was the hustle was it was it? The hustle actually was the hustle, but it was a slip up inside the hustle. I'm At the house, you know, not not even know I'm saying expecting the laws to come to this house Yeah, I ain't doing nothing at this house, but when they come knock on this dough It's a pistol sitting on my table. Wow. I'm saying so I'm not so the law see it So, yeah, but was this before this the first time you getting in trouble. You are now I This my third this that's the third time I done been down. That's why so I want to know about the first time like Oh, the first time just man being a total fuck up and didn't care what what happened? My first my first and how old were you? I think I was 20 20. Okay. Yeah, I was 20 And I got called drugs Sir sir. Yeah, and so how long did you have to go and stay down? Oh, I got I got a five-year sentence because they gave me a game of probation the first time In a volley in a volley net on on a high-speed chase with the law. Yeah, what would you what would you add you was out there by Eastman I was out there on a loot loot 281 loot 281 They got behind me. I went from the pull-over. I got home. Yeah. Yeah, I feel you on there So because you had stuff in the car. No, I ain't had nothing. I ain't still wouldn't pull over You just didn't trust me. I didn't get me at that. I actually had a nice little cost I ain't want you to pound. I ain't had a drop I'm like, nah, you ain't pounding this car I'm gonna make it to the house. Are you any thinking you just added another charge on to that just don't So when you when you get locked up They give you a sentence you have to go before that judge again They give you sentence you get you get sent down where you hit the gurney unit or transfer where you go to the Middleton, what did you end up going your first gurney gurney? Yeah, I went to gurney 64 out there y'all out there kicking it And then you know in the first time so it's like yeah, so you go in what they get you to put you in a 24-man tank Yeah, yeah, but but they tell you on the joy of gurney unit. Yeah, I'm already doing push-ups in the car About six fours that girl I Okay, let me ask you a question because everybody be talking about six four. Is she that fine? She will So that was a long while back. What year was that man? That was like 2001 2001 so you you hit the joy of gurney unit. Did you have I mean when you get there you in that tank Did anybody try you you get your mat you got to take your mat and all this other old stuff They cut your hair off. Did they cut your hair cut already? Didn't nobody yeah, didn't nobody try me cuz I was already acting up anyway I was I really I really had my nose and my mother thing going on like I was a wild child anyway They didn't try me until I got in lock-up. Okay. Oh, yeah, I got my paper. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I got my paper. So they got that when you get in lock-up you you young you this is a young a bigger bag too Yeah, yeah, this tea money So yeah, it was just crazy man do the stoma pictures man and and And and I do it. Yeah, and I he went to he went to Rick man And went and I just some just told me man chick to do shit man And when I take this shit, I found it. I found my family pictures and they gonna stole. Yes I just laid them out on the table. I Just laid it when he came back from Rick. They were laid on tape. We already know to put your shoes on man I should be for you know, but I'm let you put shoes on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so he knew what it was Oh, yeah, he was on he was on We had put them on payroll man for like the whole time. I'll back down. Yeah, I want all you coming here I wouldn't go to stole for me. Yeah, everything I thought I thought I thought dropping that's So how long did you stay out? Did you stay do your whole term on old Gurney or did you go? Did they transfer? Oh, no? Yeah, I went oh, I Went to Think my first time I went I think I went to some smile. You know, I can't think I know I went to I think I went to I stayed on granted for a little minute. I think I went to a pre-release. I went to I Can't remember. I just know it was you came home. I hadn't been three times I know but when you came when you come home, like it's always different stuff going on like when you look at your time Matter of fact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I went to Hutchins. You went to Hutchins. Yeah So you came up to Hutchins that that's what's up, but when you get out you come home Okay, and and this time when you get to the house you everybody have been Was it three years throw a party for some bullshit They happy to see you But you know, it's what's crazy is when you come out to that, you know, I said that that that entices you Come back on right. Yeah, cuz now you like to go back in that life Cuz I even tried to come to Dallas. I like I went along if you seen all alone my partners got bricks and everything they Know I'm saying they give me calling. Hey, let that motivation drive it and yeah, yeah They trying to put you back in there and then here I am out of parole to Dallas. I didn't came back to Got me working at Tom Tom I know exactly what you were saying and oh Pristin, yeah, man, I was working man second grosses This ain't me so you go back you go you move back to Longview I go back to Longview when you get back to Longview It's the second time. Well, I go back to Longview and hustle, but I still stay in Dallas. Then I met Oh, you sleep. Yeah, then I met my little chick. Yeah, I met a little chick that stayed in Houston They went to talking out talking fly But by what she can do for me. I was on my ass. I Sleed the Houston. Wow. Yeah, that's how I got my two kids But was your parole during that time or you already had lived it down I had already done so do you get hit the next time in Houston or you get hit again? He's got hit in Houston fucking up in Houston. What you doing in Houston, man, man, Houston's so trapped up So you Close to Huntsville right now from sideways to feel what I'm a I'm in the streets a stand So it's how you end up getting jammed up when you get to Houston. Oh Right. I got pulled over matter of fact or the first time. I think I got pulled over I got caught with some ex-peers. Yeah, I got caught with some y'all got caught with some ex-peer And then you already had a jacket on your back. Yeah, well, what a pill you man. I'm a step I pull them over from a stage by and I had the experience by yourself. Yeah And they and I have my homeboy with me. He had a little flesh and chain on Really got that one got me the father the little cheery. Oh Cheer up. I said, oh man anything get up, man. They got you. That was my boy, though, man He went back and that never you know, he's still around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean he ain't used to it. He's done So so when you end up, I got a question So most of the time when people because one thing I always trying to figure out does everybody who sell drugs Take the drugs In your kid, no, I know your answer, but I'm saying everybody that you was around including yourself now Back then back then. Oh man, we were whole junkers out there, man We were little junkers out there low-key. We'll get money, but we were low-key junk If we're gonna get so you got me you wasting the product you using your own product So you ain't really making the type of money you supposed to be making we taking that we taking it At certain time in we ain't we making so much out of everybody else. We ain't been losing on Okay, you know, but at the same time at the same token, we we weren't making no money really liked it because we we fucking it out Exactly. Yeah, we were you right? We were really the dope thing Man so and but you would think that being because Longview is one of them places where when you think of Longview, man It's it's it's a lot going a date man. I think they're We man Love you get it popping the trenches for real. Yeah. Yeah, I mean don't get it twisted It's a lot of little pockets down there to get a nigga called up Yeah, yeah, but long view one of the place they go to the park on Sunday and get on up out of there You know, I'm saying yeah, you can't just start you can't cover my time as they go to chillin too hard No, they're gonna start night night and I didn't plan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I used to bring homies from Houston and Hey, man Man, I'm do man. Hey, I had to tell a he with me man. They was already playing been there by the day Damn, hey, he's he's tugging in the tank. I remember the nigga tugging in the same apartment looking at him like He don't know it with me. We had the water brother. We didn't came from the club We had the waterman man in the car. I had to walk around. Hey, man. We're looking at him like that He was me man. Oh Oh Probably mad. Hey Yeah, so when you when you when you get jammed up over there going back to that you end up going back again and I'm gonna say end up tiny end up. Give me that time the last time I went back home I went back. That was the last time in Houston. No That time. Okay. The last time I went back home. I left Houston went back home Turned up turned up. They were we turned up the money Trump or trumpet that shit the music shit took everything I learned from a standing on last time I got I Feel like my thing was a time got their own thing Each takes a knee their own thing. Yeah, so I was gonna be our own thing because we was always Looking up to Houston, you know, we love Houston. We love that. We love the city. But when I came home We we live too. Yeah, we need to talk about what we Nigga was rapping about swangers and that ain't our thing. You know, we we need to talk about we trapping out here We we this we on the street shit out here number the hustling. Yeah, we talk about that That's what niggas don't really realize that that in these Texas area. Yeah, some hustling niggas down there Yeah, and that's what people don't they'd be sleeping on Like so there was my thing like let me be the one to speak on what we doing out here Yeah, so that's when I that's how my music came so and you was doing music and when you went that second time Yeah, so when you get in there and you get jammed up you go to this time what he's seen They didn't see you back to gurney to your military. Uh-huh. They said why go all this time. I went to I think I went through granny again. I went through granny again. Yeah, you know, I went through gurney, you know, I'm coming out of East Texas, I'm coming out long. So I went to granny. I thought it but they jammed in Houston That's my third time my third time I got jammed along with you No, I'm talking about that second time when you went how long did you stay in when you went it when you was a second time I probably stayed on two years two years. Yeah, I stayed on two years. I think I went to I went to that's the one I was asking you about. Yeah, you went to where did you go back then to do you remember? I think dang Which one I went to then cuz I man, it was it was a little Was it Hutchins it wasn't the one that you already had been to was it I can't remember I can't man. I swear to God I can't because that first time they let you off when they let y'all they let y'all go to engage. No, no, no, no, you know what It's something ease ease something ease him. No, not easy. I was on ease him though. That's my third time but now it's like it's up there What's it a one in Houston? I can't think of one. Oh, it's in Houston Yeah, I think it's outside of Houston, but it's the one that you go through when you leave from Houston It's like it's like granted though. It is. I think it's the West and the East I can't even with the and so when you end up going there are you used to it now you been doing time now How old are you at that time? Man, I probably would 20 No, because I say that 20 25 25 So then you you basically you stayed about 27. Yeah by 27 So you end up going back again. What making you bump your head like this? But the streets be calling it girl. But the last time I really I really was I really was I'm a big shit I was on my big shit. I just slipped up. I slipped up. Hold like you don't say it was my slip up. I You know had a gun. I always had my like my house was a house like I had guns everywhere Like they only got them to there was in the in the program. It was more Yeah, they asked me to search the house that was so crazy long the law so so trash they did was so happy to have them two Pilsen and they were they was good. They had drank and everything in the refrigerator Peels in the draw. They didn't even look it. I didn't look at them. They just knew they had you cuz you didn't put you I like it's K sitting right. All I had to do walking. They just they knew they had you that was happy With them two and they asked me that man. We won't can we get a search one? I said, nah, I can't get right sir It ain't in my name. Yeah, and I See they they send you the how long did you have did they get his last time? 17 years 17 years two pistols and how long did you have to stay cuz that was the third time? Yeah, my third time. So yeah, they enhanced it. You know I'm saying so it Enhanced my choice. So I got 17 years. I did six on it. Did six on it came home. Yeah, how long you been home now? man, I've been home like Four years close to four years Proud of you brother. Yeah, Proud of you. Yeah, how was it like? Coming home and read Justin and you know cuz social media everything changed music changed all of that a lot It was amen. Amen. It was I was determined though I was already I had knew I was a boss for I left so that boss mentality never left me But I was determined it wasn't easy It wasn't easy, but I was determined and not a lot of people didn't a lot of people didn't believe that What I was saying because it was a lot of talk. So I just quit talking Yeah, because a lot of people Everybody knows somebody who's been to prison or is in prison and when you in prison they talk a lot of stuff They talk everything good. Yeah, so I found God. I'm gonna come out and I'm gonna do this Say this just cause the niggas say that you can tell in there with that nigga that he ain't found God You know In there with him know that nigga has not found Jacking off in the day room doing all kind of stuff. This nigga ain't changed And the niggas in jail need to stop Come on, man, if you don't want to do with you know, I'm saying Everybody in the penitentiary ain't hard. That's right. That's right come out like they didn't did some shit And you was in there in the Bible and all is here and you was and you was in The Muslim the Muslims game trying to be a part of the Muslim for some protection I and and not speaking on ad because ad I'm gonna clear this up that nigga They're gonna go with anybody and we ain't a lot. We're gonna lose something from my hood I'm telling I ain't just saying that I didn't see them try to fight one of the hardest Niggas in my hood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and in his shoulder without that day Wow, man shoulder was in the sleeve and in the big homer like man, I ain't gonna go on We we can go to see him. We can go right down with the story So, you know, I'm just saying it's a lot of dudes in the in prison man that you know I'm saying that need to stop and just be reality and stop feeling like I got a Tell people I change and just just do what you do man You ain't got any reason where man whatever and you using it for comfort But don't try to push that on your people out here and lie to your people manipulate your people Because you messing up for real niggas. They're really trying to change. Yeah, they're really on that You know, they come out and they're doing something different. So but amen It's it go both ways because he feedback be lying to What I wanted to ask you because I know earlier you you mentioned that when you went back to East, Texas You were all about rapping about East Texas and what you were doing down there and stuff like that And when you say that I think about please say y'all were trapping hustling doing all of that The only thing I could think about when you say in stuff like that is the Rico Look, I'm I'm the first one to really To like way then when in court, they were using my music then so they were music to convince Yeah, they were using my music then you can't say you were the first one First ones that that that really and I don't cuz I ain't know nobody else that they were using music What did they say to what song was it that they play? Oh, the man was going out of my show The police were going out of my show taking pictures But what song was it that they was most Deep in the game deep in the game deep in the game. Oh, you know, he was using song He was like man, uh, he was like, I know a lot of something the man got on the stands the police I know a lot of song he made. He's some good music. He said Hey, but but they not only did they use that they use my my Music as a game. You see I'm saying yeah, they What was the name of the game that they was trying to say David Street David Street You know I'm saying cuz they didn't know me by money Trump said that's how money Trump Yeah, you know I'm saying they didn't know who money all they knew with T money and like I say I switched it up to bigger bag Tim because I went from arrive with no money Trump and Donald Trump to fucked it up But there's another yeah, yeah, but but you but they knew you and they were trying to hold you they didn't know They knew I was David Street. They know You know I'm saying T money will but they didn't know who money Trump was so they seen me in the videos With all the gang members So they trying to yeah, they put net two and two together. Oh, yeah He had roads going across the you know, I'm saying my partner rose your white boy and moving a lot of dope You know I'm saying that's a white black boy. So he he I'm talking about he he hot High boy feeds on his ass. Hold on. I'm telling him keep his truck out my yard. That's how hot he was Damn, you know, I'm saying so he was in the video. Wow And just the rest of the David Street members So, you know, they try to use that as and David Street really is a family. Yeah, you know something But like I say you need people switch it up So y'all wasn't thinking about knowing that all this could be used against you at that time man We we just didn't care really we wasn't smart You see I'm saying you when you hungry and you wanted you you don't wait Like the smartest thing was to do was get the money first stack the bag up Make the music get all the way out the way of the streets But we wasn't making no money out music We was making money off the trap send the trap down and going to do show whatever we ain't give it in But the money we just want to let you know we hill we were making money but now The game so game so good to where you got the streaming service you got, you know, you ain't we ain't know None by no stream I'm coming so, you know, but so we just wanted to trap and rap But you said the game so good with the music the streaming and all that But then you still have some rappers out here still can't leave the street alone because they Making more money out there than they do with their music correct Because they really not making no money like they said not it looked good on the Internet You see I'm saying because if they really making money like that, you're gonna protect yourself You see I'm saying and you go in and if you really got and they really ain't got a lot of great advisors up over I'm using it take all that Because you know some dudes get caught so caught just be so street I'm gonna tell you like this right here, man. As you got to do they want to be a girl, right? You know I'm saying and He gonna overdo it when it's time you because you gonna know you know like Something right this is like a few two female like that might not that might be a man you feel me But then you got dudes that ain't really street You see I'm saying and jumping in the streets and they overdoing the street shit. Yeah. Yeah You see I'm saying cuz real street niggas like man, we gotta get out to we trying to make it up out of this shit We trying we you know, we this ain't what we we trying to stay in in the street We trying to make it out to streets. That's real You see I'm saying a lot of niggas trying to come in the streets and and play the street role and Had a street street swag but You fucking the game off of the street because nigga we we probably coming to go Yeah, we'll be coming together and getting out the way I gotta ask you you know like like when I when I look at you know The fact of how you went and did that time the biggest thing that Like when you come home things don't change man, you know, you got you got a Instagram pop and now you got Facebook. You got new cell phone iPhones, you know Six years a long stint, right when you come home. What was the biggest thing that stuck out to you? Like damn man, this is why oh Man the money, you know, I watched the money. I'm I'm I'm watching all this is I'm watching All this is that's really having it and you can tell they really having it because they having this shit on it And I'm knowing it ain't just them. It's these labels. You see I'm saying so I'm knowing that You know saying like it's a money out here to be gotten it's a it's a money to be obtained You see I'm saying so that's that's what I see. I see the money. That's the that's the motivation What about what about let's go back to Davis Street for a second man because I was just down at this weekend and just I've been down there a few times Just the energy and that that little that when you turn it so you can go all the way down to where it did ends at The end down there like where were you at? Were you up the hill or where would you add on Davis all over Davis? I'm down here. I'm that's my that's my turf outlet like down here up the hill Really everywhere alone view, but that's my hood. That's your hood. That's my hood like I trapped in the hole That's the hole right there. Oh, yeah, I didn't trapped in there You know, I didn't trapped out I sold crack and ran from laws all through that where y'all was standing it I got caught by the law running from over there. Yeah, running around the block with blunts in my ear young 15 Yeah, that's just always your way you go you roll there. That's my neighborhood. Wow and but but you guys grew up there That's what people don't understand like you you see a lot of guys there and you see at the LD You see you you see the what's how the cuz he'd be over there, too It's a g a lg you see all of them dudes man They they you know, they grew up now. They owed to me and you know It means so much to see just how you guys have grown up now And now you got kids and stuff that can look up to y'all and that Davis Street means something cuz we realized man We realized that you know, and I definitely and I know they did too You realize that you a big influence on the community Yeah, and when you realize you a big big big influence on the community realized that you need to take your leadership role a little more serious Wow, I'm saying so man, you know your grandmother. I seen on that that epic video And I just I commend you when I seen you pray and that's one of the main drivers It got you in that seat. Yeah, because I said that's real man Like I wish I had my granny, you know my grandma my family man and for y'all to pray like she did And for you to go I love that song too, man Just give me a understanding where you was that when you when you wrote it when you put out That was a few years back though, right? Yeah, so when you pinned that what what was what what inspired that? I Know I had to drop a song called it because you know how we had we had I had this in mind that I was gonna come Out with this I was gonna come out with the evolving politically inspired circumstances like I know I had to motivate the people I know I had to motivate You know saying I know it's more than just my people in my cities people all around the world is living just like long view They need to be motivated and inspired that we can go up and we can evolve to you know saying so I knew I had to drop it the song had to be epic and it just you know It was just time to do something epic Do you know, you know, you realize you captured a moment We're in time when you got your grandma there and she praying and and and you know, basically That's something that you always have with you I just I look at stuff like that and I respect on a whole nother level. Yeah, come on baby My baby left was man, so she's not even around me just she just passed away. Just just like oh Last year lately. So you see where I was she? 91 you see you see where and and he got that word and I looked at that man. I was heavy We can always look back on that and see it and that's and that's the glue You know, it's the glue to my family or she been a real woman like, you know saying and really Putting a lot of seeds and us, you know So on there's like and and a praying woman, you know, you see that on the on the on the yeah I loved it, man. Yeah, so, you know, she's gonna like I say Tought us to keep God first. So yeah, we ain't never got away from that once you raise up and tout up on it You know, that's hard man on the guard. It's real. Yeah. No one is something bigger than you man When I seen that man, like I said sent chills on me just to do the realness of it because I'm a country dude And when I've seen it put me some that's why I gotta take I why I try to keep on me You know saying yeah, I gotta give them like I can't give them too much of the flesh You see and you know, I put I put this shit on here No, but I gotta still take them to the roots or how you know, I'm saying what what East Texas really with really stand on No, I loved it man. Like I said the mic Check that you did on listening listening to the breed. I love that song too When did you do that one? I think just That one's been recent. Yeah, like like you had to get that mic check in D Everybody do it. He's like Yeah, yeah, you killed that whole to me and you killed that whole that whole be who did they produce that beat on that Oh, chill a minute. That's my nigga right there. I like that little nigga, man You know, I'm saying man, so how you and him? How did you get in Trilly Millie like even link up cuz this boy here a man He didn't put his hands on a lot of different things and people don't realize that he like a sleeping giant in the Longview area man. Hey man Trilly Millie. I can go all the way back when Trilly Millie was Let me thank his old name. See his old name was he said it on her didn't he? Damn, let me think Trilly Millie was Mastermind mastermind see we was making songs in Wow, he produced that whole Back in the trap by volume volume volume, okay by him to him. He gave me all instruments recorded everything He was already this one we would This was like 2010. Are you proud of him when you see him like doing what he doing with a past he and T with Mama Scott in him. Definitely. I support him. He was just with me like we were just we were just In the beans crawling through Longview, uh, this weekend man, you know, I love you know, the genuine is a mama Scott Man, you know, and just that they hold they hold chemistry people and then it's genuine genuine people Man, that's the thing that and she know I love it. Yeah, that's mama. That's my and that's what she is She a mama she a mama figure to a lot of those guys and just her energy even when we went down there for Fast-batch when they shut us down Man, she always so little so little she don't do number show love and and I be I always had to tell her I'm square could worry about them nigga, man. That's really she you know say she's getting it. She'll go go right I know I'll be telling about that too, but you can't stop Man, that's a great woman, man, I'm somebody a great person Full of love, that's why that's why I fuck with it because simple fact Yeah, I I got down to a bachelor degree on people. So wow, you know, I'm saying so I know I can recognize when a person is Good hearted. That's it. That's all that matter. That's real breath. Yeah, man So, um, what do you think the biggest song you and you and you and oh chill it and put together the one you You could you like the most? Oh Oh Probably boss of my city boss of my city boss of my city. That's all How was y'all when y'all did it? Man in the 20s Yeah, in the 20s man. I know and he probably wasn't he probably was a team You know, you're a little younger than me. So that's a little bro. Yeah, yeah, that's hard, man That keep grinding man So so and I know you just did that one a little while back What what what inspired that with the hustle for show? Yeah, man, and I just want to take it to another level like the grind is everything the grinding is the grinding just Hustling the grind is working the grind real guy to just keep grinding like keep going like even telling myself You don't think I had to tell myself they're coming out of prison like hey, man, just keep grinding man Man, yeah, people ain't gonna people ain't gonna believe in your vision until they see it But just keep grinding they'll come along But when you know something to be true in your heart like like like I was telling you the other day the product or something You say I'm just talking to myself. You remember that and I said baby you I say you just talking to yourself I said a product or son thought to himself and in Luke chapter I think 15 and he said he thought to himself how many hide servants do my father have and then he got up and He say I'm gonna go to my father and when he was on the way his father seen him and put a ring on his finger Yeah, you see what I'm saying and then told him to kill a fatty calf You see what I'm saying like like it was a celebration for him coming home. Yeah, don't make me go there He's not the project. Oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's that's that's real talk like Like like like when you we when you go home, you come back. Come on man. It's me Yeah, yeah, yeah to the celebrate that's the celebration. They was talking about earlier when you say well I don't know what they doing is for because people want to see you win brother But you know what you know what I say right now about that Celebration one should have been the celebration of who I am now there it is So they celebrate it too early. Yeah, they celebrate because you know, you you you celebrate and I'm home But I'm really not home. Yeah, I'm not home up here. That's real. That's real. I'm right with you To celebrate who I am now now that's real, but the celebration ain't and it's big now No, you see what I say people can't see but that's the way it be because God got something special in you Yeah, you see what I'm saying and a lot of time people not gonna be able to tap into that That fleshly thing that corner thing they can get that all day, but that thing in that heart It's hard for him to see it. I can go there because I'm a reader, bro So when they when they in that book when you look at Saul, I mean, you know And you seen saw the people picked Saul. Yeah, but God picked David Yeah, you see what I'm saying because David was little and he didn't even look the part But Saul looked like he was a big guy, but but the people saw But God picked for the heart ain't going out David hard and his heart was big. That's it You see what I'm saying and you know what so many times I could have shrink my heart from all the times It got played on but I can't I continue to keep it big because I wasn't gonna let nobody change Who I am that's real person and so many people Turn it to whatever you call a slime or whatever. Yeah, because they didn't got cross. Yeah Yeah, so cuz a bunch of me when they get cross. She I got cross. I'm across another they see it cross me I'm across them but I never lit Niggas cuz niggas cross me to turn me into a Slime ball. Yeah, I'm saying yeah, that ain't me I don't knock what they do because I know it's a part of the streets I just know I just feel like if I'm a if I'm gonna be a real one out the real That's how I'm gonna stay. That's real. I just know how now. I know how to see it When I see it and cut it out off the real man What was the name of that song you know D done y'all in this new new project? How did you drop that David Street? You're talking about the Three side each side three side each side. Yes, sir. What uh, what? How did he end up reaching it even do that? Man, you know, it's a David Street album. I know I know it, but just this way you had to be on there He can't we talk all the time of course, but what he say we gonna put you on this project with me He's where he actually I got a song. I need your own You know, he's speak to the point. So and he and you know, I sent it. Yeah, yeah, yeah sent it and I jumped on it sent it back to him And it went for how hard to dog. I like that old man I listened to it this morning when I was walking walking in the morning I didn't know how I was gonna come on it because he went so hard and it's a bad dog. You know, I was like But you bad too. You can call you used to your mom But I like I gotta go I got I gotta go in He everyone or something exactly so how how what like like Andy did you ever see him? Like this dude came out when he came home. You know how many projects he put out, bro Yeah, he can't work at the different He's he's hungry man. He's been gone for a minute. So, you know, and this is his dream for you left Wow, so, you know, he just he just wanted to do it just because this what he love You know, he love to talk shit. He love to rap. He love to make music He just do it in whatever guard allow it to do. That's what he on you proud of him for, you know I gotta be because what when he win I win that's real You see I'm saying so and I know regardless Just cuz he's a winner more than gotta give me nothing You see people like Greg Street, you see people like Mac 10 you see little kiki big pokey You see all these different people that's pow wow tapping in with our D man. How how big is that? Man, that's real big because you know, we grew up. That's a dream come true Especially for him and people from the from the neighborhood. So, you know people Proud, you know saying you so many there's pride might be some there's hate But it's so many that's proud of what he's doing because these are people we grew up watching and want to be around and And they embracing them, you know, I'm saying so, you know, it's a big It's a dream come true for him man to see Kiki down there like that the other day man on Davis Street I'm a big fan of Kiki down there on Davis Street Like a big fan Kiki like we can like Kiki we ain't talking about Kiki now We can go all the way back to the great taste with Kiki. Yeah, yeah, yeah Actually, I went we went to the show that night when I got down a and We I didn't make you a couple times few times sugar hand, but this is not he performing. I just wanted to let him know I was right out. I won't be on stage. I want to be right there front. I want to be right there I'm a fan man. So I want to show you I'm and you're rocking it. Oh go right with you. That's hard man. Love him to see him on Davis Street Like what did you you made over there? He kind of left early You you did you see him out there on Davis? I didn't get to see him You ain't get to see that would have been a but you can look at my video You know, it's a big big big salute to keep man for me man That's hard man to the hood and he been screaming and showing little man. That's amazing. That's very amazing man And you know that that I can't wait to that that video come out. They're gonna be hard That they go go hard. I seen it. I got that footage, man I and I got to get the song. I think I I've been jamming the album in a way So he didn't know I didn't know I knew his verse like that like really they like how you know the song I don't got to hear the song a little weird. I I'm on his album man Man, you love and and and them your guys man. He been inspired me though like people wouldn't know it like on his first album I D I dare is rage That first album right there like he inspired my music to be able to talk about something Wow Like you know saying because he was already telling stories. I just I just tell it in my way I just do it a little, you know, I'm the little bro. So, you know, I'm gonna try to spice it up a little Yeah, yeah, he inspired a lot Wow man for you two guys as much as y'all been through for y'all y'all the way you've been in and out the system for Him to come out after doing he did a total of 17 years, you know, I'm saying and you did a total of how many Six you did six no in total you did six the last thing by 11 So you did by them he did about 17 like man And then y'all still come back and be out here on the album together Then then you got Filmed by Miyagi out here who were locked up with which with him. Did you ever do time with how D? We cross-passed he came through East Ham while I was down and he starts shooting where he was over there. Yeah, so He I ain't get to see him or whatever. Yeah, he was Man, you know, but to see y'all come home man and to see y'all get it together and get it right Yeah, all y'all working together always bigger than music with us You know, I was bigger than music because we already know we got a big influence on the community We just be wanting to inspire people just to do do what you love man And get some get some paper off of and and probably listen to the music and get you know, jamming But Mike you might can get something out of it. Wow, you know, man. So man, how can top three artists of all time? dead or live Any John top three artists of all time Any John number one. I gotta go with Jay-Z Jay-Z I'll be jealous about that when they come down to P. I'm not my number one Now my number one is gonna be fat pack Hey My number one gonna be fat pack number one fat pack Yeah, you didn't tell you they call me cuz I love Jay-Z Jay-Z a hell of an entrepreneur Jay-Z Jay-Z. Yeah, he's in my He's in your top three. Now. Who's your number number the Jay-Z number two? Jay-Z number three. Jay Jay really I got to put him at it. I can't have no number Because they all number one to me. Okay. Who's your next one? I gotta go with Pimp C Man, that's the I'm gonna get mad. I Did I did the deep in the game way back the deep in the game came from Pimp C. I'm deep in the game Yeah, I'm late. I'm do pimpin and ain't nothing nobody's scary Yeah, I go back all the way to the pimp man I like I say my life been inspired by pimp for real like my my music probably been inspired by Fat pack, you know the saucy head, you know the But but pimp C inspired my life with a lot he said like, you know, if you niggas come together No, how much paper we can see, you know, I'm saying like and I'm big on it because niggas is so split apart and niggas is Instead of trying to top each other and and they don't know man Like it's so easy for everybody to get some money, man Together if I told a million people, man, we're gonna get a million in the gym Everybody gets some money But it's so many niggas that want to have it and hope that the next man don't get it Wow, man, you're a dope dude, man Like I said, I knew this was gonna be a nice interview for me just because you from East Texas and because I'll be you know I love my East Texas crew, man. Don't these niggas are gonna never be able to you know I'm that nigga that can skin a deer. You know, I'm saying don't never forget that I'm saying I'm that nigga that can I know how to go out and get my food and cook it outside Yeah Although you haven't done it in years. No, I have to it's he got this in you Yeah, when you lived it you is in you. Yeah, but see I want that country now You're not country like they got I'm from back at Olay like I tell you I tell you I'm a real like you know where I'm from Ain't no lights. Yeah, I know My skin you yeah My skin back skin off your back out there, but no, I just you know, like I said, man Thank you so much man for coming on the show man How can people get a hold of you man? They look at follow me on Instagram bigger bag Tim bigger bag Tim on Facebook Bigger bag Tim on Twitter big. I'm everywhere. Just bigger bag Tim and I'm gonna follow you back Wow, man, like I said, man, you one of them warns man that I Like I said, I knew already you were special man Because of what you've been through. Yeah, it ain't got nothing to do with the music It's just because of what you've been through and you still here. I think like that She know how I am. Am I like that? I'll be looking at the whole thing from a different angle niggas becoming telling me about the music first I'd be like, I don't care nothing about that. I care about you And everybody been calling me talking about doing it was just the first one. This is the hardest one to hear But I say this the hardest I'll be mellowed man. No, but it's gonna be many more to any time you're doing a project or if it's something that you're trying to lock Into just let me know man. Like I said, I should have gotten 16 bars up out of you Cuz I knew already, you know, I'm saying I could you ready to put it down. Yeah, I'll put the beat on And you all you gotta do is talk right in that mic nigga and go in He got a hell of a drop it stop in a drop. I like that. Oh, you're watch Yeah, go right there. You can hear Man, let's go boss. Oh, what a one big back to him in the building y'all stop playing man He's Texas in the building y'all. Let's go dirty money. Got me If I was black bitch, I can still tell how them Bitch, I'm still gonna get them birdies cool. They who like that nigga. They got it. No dirty look I don't play fuck reset. I'm fuck rich. I'm sleepless. I'm up This is like a hard on your boy won't under this knee drip diamond till it like TLC treat the beans like a DLC Chopper died this to defense taking pictures like 9,000 wise no Michael White got a Swiss a house, and they like to spot got kush corn Poser agent for the old heads. They like the pie. I like to shop at the gallery in my band It's trying to win the ballerina. I'm looking for life future or temptation Have you seen your tippy told not do the split standing up I be be she's ski not me Stamina flipper on a backseat on the stomach. I was dead with big I'm up on the summer skid on the big now. What's that? Big round air with them girls sit in my lap major set back for quick crack one horse on Seated the trap to the hard gone so the river poke like Facebook Man, no man. Thank you man so much man. I appreciate you coming on boss talk one-on-one man when a boss is talking man Man, hey man. It's been another great segment man That's what it's all about man. Big bag Tim came through and blessed our game man Boss talk one-on-one what a boss is talking and we're