 We have one more day until we get to see some more basketball. But, um, that does not mean that the NBA is not still making news because yesterday I'm not going to call it a gift because this guy didn't get a gift. Nate McMillan fired his head coach of the Hawks 29 and 30 right now. They're sitting at eight in the East. I guess the timing, uh, is probably the question here shams or were other times earlier this season specifically that this might have been more sensical? Like why, why now? Well, I think the reason this happened now is they had two really bad losses right before the all-star break to Charlotte and to New York. One of those games, they gave up, I think 144 points. And I think they looked at that as a bad sign going into the second half of the season. And we've been talking about Nate McMillan's future since December. When he had that incident with Trey Young, where Trey Young no showed to a game, um, after his exchange with Nate McMillan at pregame shoot around in December, we've been discussing Nate McMillan's future. And the fact that whether it was in season or in the off season, he was not long for this job. He was going to be fired eventually. And that's when several weeks into December, I reported that he, he attempted to step down as head coach. He wanted to resign from his, his duties. And so that's where the writing was on the wall. He was going to be out after the season anyway. So I think the Hawks preempted it and get it out of the way now, especially after two really bad losses. And so they're going to start a search, they are trying to make a hire in season. And so a few guys will really look at Quinn Snyder, Kenny Atkinson, Charles Lee, Jordy Fernandez. This is a team that's 29 and 30, eighth in the Eastern conference, a lot of turbulence. Travis Schlank goes from president to now basically not in the organization. Nate McMillan goes from head coach, a guy that's on a three or four year extension to not, now he's not a head coach anymore there. So they're shuffling. They've, they've restacked the decks there and we'll see which coach they try to bring in, but I would, I would keep an eye on Quinn Snyder and Charles Lee. And if they're trying to go big game hunting, Quinn Snyder as the best resume and probably the best available candidate of anyone right now. I mean, look, Landry Field, and a lot of these movements were made in December, right? Like a behind the scenes, they're not as sexy. So we probably didn't talk about them as much, but Landry Fields is their GM now that happened in December when, as you mentioned, Travis Schlank slept step down. So things have been happening behind the scenes. Right now Joe Prunty, former Spurs video coordinator is the interim coach. The timing is bizarre Chandler. Obviously they're saying that this is good for the team moving forward, but now we get to discuss whether or not it's good for the team moving forward. We're going to run the floor and I asked you first, Chandler, was this a good decision? I mean, look, it seemed like the writing was on the wall in a situation like this, like Shams just said, but the whole Trey Young incident, he was going to step down. He wanted to leave now. And I do think it's the right decision just because he's going to be gone anyways, right? Not that Nate McMillan deserve to be fired. Actually everything I've heard, the guy's unbelievable and he's a great dude and he's actually a really good coach. I just think that the Hawks made the move for Dejante Murray. They're very underachieving this season so far. They had high expectations and they're battling right now on the eight seed and they have a lot of talent. So I don't, I think they strongly believe that they can make a splash here. They could hire a guy like Quinn Snyder, who's an unbelievable coach and they still have the talent. When you look at their roster with Bogdanovich, Deandre Hunter, John Collins has been on the trading block for about six years and aren't moving him. They have the talent. They have the pieces. They're just not playing well right now and someone's got to be the fall guy. And this is exactly why I would never want to be a coach because it is a tough, what have you done late for me lately? It's not necessarily fair, but at the end of the day, they are underachieving and they're not winning as many games as they expected them to win and that usually falls on the head coach, especially when you have a star player like Trey Young who in the headlines has publicly got into it with him, doesn't go to shoot around or doesn't go to the game. That's all stuff that makes it seem as if Nate McMillan doesn't have a hold on his team, let alone a star player and usually it's going to crack down on him. But I think they have enough talent on this roster to win some games and just a change might be the best thing for them. Ooh Eddie, what do you think? Yeah, it's very interesting the timing of course, but I don't know when else they could have done, I guess maybe Monday, you know, but they didn't blow it up at the trade deadline. They clearly want to make a run this year. They're only a season and a half removed from a conference finals berth. And that was a conference finals berth that they felt they could win. Trey Young got hurt in that series and they were right there. They felt like they could have made a finals run and then who knows. So, you know, they didn't trade John Collins, they didn't trade the 100, they didn't trade Bogdanovitch, all these guys that were rumored for months and months and months and John Collins, everybody had him traded by now. So clearly they feel like they had the talent to make a run and they need a new voice there. What I wonder is how much of this trickles back to Trey Young. They obviously bumped heads, they quite publicly acknowledged that they bumped heads. The CEO could deny Soms report all he wants, but here we are a month and a half later and Nate McMillan is no longer the coach of this team. So, you know, when you got a guy who can average 30 points a game and give you 10 assists a night and he's willing to go to the front office and say, Hey, me or him, it's always a dangerous job for a coach. So, you know, I don't know if Trey cares to break that stigma or what, but it's there and it's an interesting time for this franchise because, yes, they didn't blow it up in February. They didn't blow up the trade deadline, but what's to stop them from blowing it up this summer? What's to stop them from calling around and wondering what the price tag is for Trey Young for their new coach, their new GM and a new regime out there in Atlanta as they want to build a new franchise. You know, they're definitely a team to watch. I got Trey high atop my disgruntled stars list. When you look at all those teams that are gathering five, six, seven draft picks and wondering what they can turn it into, it might be a Trey Young. You might be able to turn that into a Trey Young this summer. Yeah. Look, you never want to get that coach killer, you know, reputation. And I can speak for the first time. The first one was not Trey Young's fault. I was there in Atlanta. Lloyd Pierce was not a good fit. He was not a cool dude. He was not a great dude. He wasn't a great coach in my opinion. He was my least favorite coach I've ever played for, to be honest with you. And so that wasn't Trey Young. Yes, they butted heads, but Lloyd did not know how to manage the young talent. He didn't know how to manage Trey Young kind of becoming the star player that he kind of went rogue there. And in my opinion, deserve to get fired. Nate McMillan is another story. I haven't heard nothing but great things about them. Obviously I was in Atlanta, so I have my own personal experience. This is different. And again, Trey Young is a scoring, you know, point guard that's young and he's not the most mature leader on a team, right? And so I think the best thing for Trey Young is for them to bring in a star that kind of relieves him from being that guy because I think his best asset is facilitating the ball. He's got a great vision. He's always going to be able to score points. He's always going to be able to shoot the ball from extremely deep. But I just think the more he grows and the more he matures as a player, I think he's better off as a two or three option than being the main guy because this isn't good for him because now this is, this is the second coach and this is the GM. And now he's got, you know, it's just, it's not a good look, whether it's his fault or not. And as much as things fall on the head coach, I could have said, a lot of the falls on the star player. And this is Trey Young's organization. They gave him the contract. They drafted him. They traded him for Luca Donkens on draft night like this. He's got the keys. And the cars not really anywhere. So they had the great year where they advanced in the playoffs last year. They made the big trade this year and now they're kind of underachieving and they're in panic mode, but I'm not giving up on them quite yet. I still think they have talent and I do think Trey is a star and he has the chance to kind of get over this hump of this reputation of being a coach killer because the first one wasn't his fault. Yeah. I mean, I think with Trey Young, it's a tough situation because they were going to fire name McMillan regardless of whether whatever happened with Trey Young. And so the writing was on the wall, but for Trey Young to put himself in that situation where he was combative with the head coach and decided not to show up to the game. And I think that's where the organization from what I'm told over the last 24 to 48 hours, they just came to the conclusion that the players had fully tuned out Nate McMillan. They did not feel like Nate McMillan had a pulse on this team anymore. That his time was over. And so it was really just ripping the bandaid off. And that's exactly what they did. I mean, good Lord. It was like a season and a half, two seasons ago, he was the savior. They were in the garden. They were like America's sweetheart team. And he's talking smack to everybody. It's crazy how quickly everything can turn. Obviously now the search for a new coach goes on. As of right now, whether they trade him or not, Eddie, which that has validity to it as far as what you were saying, but it's his team. So Chandler, how much input do you give a Trey Young when you start looking at the names you're seeing on the screen right now for potential new coaches? I think you bounce some ideas off him. And Landry Fields was a player. He understands that you need to make a guy like Trey Young. You need to make a guy like John T. Murray, their star guys that are a part of their future. They need to make them happy. They need to make them comfortable with this decision because they have to vibe. They have to get along. And if Trey's not going to get traded and he's going to be there, he's the main part of the success of their future with this new coach. So I definitely think that you're going to go to him and ask him and, you know, have an opinion. Is it going to be the final say? I don't think Trey has that kind of juice. And I think everything that's led up to this moment, it has kind of lessened for Trey Young to where he'll still have a voice and have an opinion, but I don't think it's going to be like a, you know, a Luca Donkitz juice anymore that he would have or someone like that because of the history, because of the two coaches, because of Travis stepping down. A lot of the media scrutiny has fallen on Trey. And so I definitely think they'll make him as comfortable as possible, but they're not just higher on who Trey Young wants at this point. I don't think so. So I have a, I have a proposition for Eddie, but before just, that's, that's a tease because I want you to get really excited mentally inside. Before that though, I have a quick question because it seems that across the board, and we saw the George Carl tweet earlier that it's a, it's a me league versus a we league, right? It's Donchich versus, or it's Yokic versus Trey, that kind of mentality. A lot of people love Nate McMillan. Like I've heard nothing but positive things. If you're an up and coming coach or one of these guys on the list, do you take that into consideration if offered this job? Or is the ego of a coach such that you think it's not going to affect me? Chandler, what do you think? Like, is that, you know, coach is more than most like it does. Do they even take that into consideration? Yeah. If I'm a young dude, like Lee from the Warriors, and I actually have an opportunity to get a, you know, three to five year deal. And, and with all this history of Trey Young, it's almost like Trey Young is like hiring Irving now where he's got to behave. He cannot have another coach. They can hire a young guy. And I think before they fire the next coach, I think they would trade Trey Young. So yeah, I would take it. You kid me to get a head coaching job on a team with that much young talent in a great city. I'm definitely take it because I firmly believe like strike three and whether it's Trey's fault or not, I think the next coach they hire, that's who they're going to, that's who they're going to roll with with this roster. And whether they make a move or not for Trey, that that's up to him and how he messes with whoever they hire. It's the eye can change him. I love it. Okay, Eddie, the movie Eddie, this is the scenario I present you with. You are offered the moment. You want to coach the Hawks or what? Yeah, I coach the team that the White Howard plays for in China. What do you talk about? Of course I coach the Hawks. You know, this is a team with talent. This is a team with a style of play that is shown and has worked and two young all stars who we know our talents in the league and one of the most important positions. So it's it's absolutely enticing job. And especially if you can build that relationship with Trey and go from there. Or like Chandler said, walking knowing that, you know, there's only so much left for him to do before, you know, they go get somebody else from me. I think it's, you know, probably the best job available right now. Right, fair enough.