 So we've visited three main cities, so currently in Jakarta, we've visited Jogjakarta and Bandung and we've visited a range of different organisations, so Muhammadiyah, NU, Muslim movement, China Preserve the Faith but also be progressive, universities, Islamic universities, Pizantrens, Islamic boarding schools, NGOs, temples, mosques, museums, a whole variety of things meeting amazing people learning different things. We get to talk about our experiences in Australia being I guess a minority religion in Australia, it's obviously a majority in Indonesia but just our experience in Australia and how we find Indonesia. A lot of organisations and a lot of people that are doing great work and have inspired us so when we go back to Melbourne we can do something for the Muslim community. This is a program that was started about ten years ago specifically to recognise that religion is an important part of the culture of both countries actually and often people in the one country don't really know enough about that part of cultural life in the other country. The reality of Islam in Indonesia is that it's extremely diverse and that there is not one way that a Muslim will practice Islam, it seems to be various ways mixed with culture as well but the beautiful thing about it is that you know everyone's striving to please God to worship God in their own ways and not enforce their own opinions on others. Yeah Islam in Indonesia I guess the word they like to use is plural but I think it's a practice in the right way in Indonesia, it's very peaceful, it's got a space for other religions, I think it's a very good example of Islam in practice in the world today. Off towards Saudi Arabia I've been to Hajj before and I thought it would be more Islamic and to come here and realise there's six recognised religions but so many more and I can outside of my hotel room there's a big massive church with you know a big graveyard full of you know Christian graves you know that's something I wouldn't have expected. I went to Australia in 2005 I did you know a visit to several NGO as well as the government institution and I found it very interesting to you know to see the diversity in Australia because it surprised me because when I was in Australia I found out that Islam community, Muslim community, Jewish community and Christian community they are working together and sort of overcoming the problem the issues about the tolerance about the pluralism sort of like that. By gender to experience the religious cultural life and in all its diversity of the other country but also people who have a network in their own community that they can use to share their experiences more widely. I am helping to manage a microfinance programme in Victoria at the moment and just being able to talk to people that are doing the same thing in Indonesia has sort of broadened my horizon and I hope to take that back and you know implement some of the ideas back in Australia and make it better. I work as a community coordinator for Football United which is a sports for social development organisation working with refugee young people. I also work with the Islamic Egyptian Society but I also try and empower Muslim women through sports so we run female only sporting activities and soccer tournaments as well trying to engage them through sport but in a culturally appropriate environment. I actually teach Islam in a government state school and it's pretty like it was first introduced by Arkan Toledo a non-profit organisation and Islam, the Muslim community wasn't aware that we could actually teach Islam in schools but we have all religious denominations teaching in schools and I was actually the first one in Victoria to teach at a non-Islamic school this year. It'll help me work with the Muslim community in Australia I think a lot better just from a personal perspective just understanding that you know there are also Muslims in Australia that practice the religion differently and keeping an open mind and just engaging even with the Indonesian community in Australia a bit better as well. Yeah it's funny actually when I went to Australia I met Muslim NGOs and as well as Jewish community and Christian community but there was a Jewish community who sent me email regularly up until now and I found out that the activity is quite inspiring because when I see the the Jewish and Muslim community especially their mother and their women too and they they come up with the with how to you know take an action to bridge the the differences to acknowledge each other to respect each other and it sort of give me inspiration to adopt and perhaps modify a little bit and you know put it in practice to to my work field. The people that I've travelled with this you know week and a half they'll all remain friends with them forever and it's just those networks are the Indonesians that I've met in the week and a half I've no doubt that'll maintain contact with them. This is an opportunity that you know any Muslim Australian should take up because you learn so much about yourself but your own faith about the country with you know the biggest Muslim population how they react to certain situations differences of opinions and there's so much that we can learn from it. Yes absolutely I'd recommend it to to anyone that's interested in Islam or in Indonesia it's just a fantastic program. Best piece of advice would be to it's very hectic but very rewarding at the same time so be prepared yeah learn a little bit more about the Indonesian culture I guess and and the politics just have a great time. you