 Welcome back to the 21 convention 2018 of Orlando, Florida Our next speaker is a former heavyweight boxer retired military and a physicist with a BA recent graduate He's also blogger at edladamore.com Without further ado, please let me welcome the stage Ed Latimore So good morning to everyone and I hope you got your black coffee very black Just the only way I drink and everybody you know follows me on Twitter No, they got this running series of coffee so black jokes and And it'd be weird if you came up and I was drinking coffee with cream That's why I say the best part about these kind of things is that you get to see the authentic person behind the internet persona So I'm not a phony. I'm drinking black coffee like the rest of you So my speech today my presentation today as you can see title being red pill and a blue pearl world How to keep your mind and soul and the madness When I was thinking about what I was going to say to everyone I wanted to draw on something personal to me because I'm a big believer that if you're going to do anything involving putting yourself out there whether it be content or even working that you should come from a position of Experience and not just theory and so for me, you know, everyone's got their event that makes them red pill My event was at 23 Went through a harsh breakup and started dating a girl who was seeing a few other guys and long story short She tricked me and made me think that I had a child on the way It was not mine and eventually I learned it was not the other guys either who we thought it was it was another guy So we go through this and like man, how did this happen? I thought I was a savvy guy, but turns out when your ego can be incredibly blinding So I went through this phase and when I was 23 Mostly 20 20 22 23 24. Well, I was really, you know, I was a voracious consumer of red pill content and really trying to figure out how to make sure I would never be in a position To accept such meager offerings in my life in terms of women ever again What you learn though, it's not everyone is interested in The truth not everyone's interested in all how things work. They just Want things to work out hopefully magically and it's not, you know This life wasn't just for them when you talk to those people some of them are gonna be your friends your family In fact, most of them are gonna be very few of us and that's what we're all here from all around the world Very few of us got so lucky that we were surrounded by a bunch of like-minded Red pill guys who weren't on the truth and knew what the game is all about So I had to figure out how to exist amongst these people and I Felt miserably in many ways and today I'm gonna talk about not how not only how I felt But how I want some of you who are in various stages of swaddling this pill How you can go on and not be lonely because you know like socrates was saying in his speech before You know loneliness is a big deal and we we may not be birds at the same feather But we can definitely flock together and if we don't we're gonna fall So let's let's get on with it quick review for the Older guys who know this are the veterans of some new guys. What's the blue pill? What is the red pill? I'm one of those people. I noticed some debate about this But my stance is that you can be red-pilled about anything it doesn't just apply to women However today, we're going to be talking about it in the context of Relationships, but you can be red-pilled about politics about nutrition All of these things, but what is blue pill? Molding your life to the expectations of society regardless of what your desires are many of us are just going along to get along We're not going along to make ourselves healthy Believe in everything you're told about how things are without questioning how they work, you know, it's like It's like Santa Claus, man you know You tell a kid for so long that Santa exists and then the kids gonna get mad at you one day when you go, you know what? Those presents didn't just fall down the chimney and a lot of us a lot of people anyhow Not us in this room. Hopefully a lot of people still believe in Santa and That is believe in how everything they're told as opposed to figuring out. Oh, man We got to go put this working in body's presence, you know and Operating from a state of fear conservation and scarcity This is a big one because In order to keep you believing these things there has to be something that you're afraid of running Oh towards there has to be some risk you're afraid to take the The payoff has to seem not worth it and the way, you know, this is Maintained is you know, you you pick a side and you got to be on that side rather than think for yourself And and this is your tribe will protect you even if you don't agree with that job Or you you're not even naturally part of that tribe. It's just how you got subscribe you got pulled into Many of us are like that in terms of a religion that we were given and religion is a very good thing, but many of us are Not allowed to question the things that go on for fear of looking like a traitor Many of us are not allowed to question Are we feel weird question and nutritional advice given to us by the masses the food pyramid and many of our? Nutritional options that have resulted in a 70% obesity rate in this country we questioned that and People look at us like we're crazy But we're not questioning it. We're afraid to stand out. We're afraid to be pushed aside We're afraid to have everyone look at us, you know, it's like that saying you can be a hammer out of now Well, many of us feel like what a now we don't want to stick out We just want to get hit back down as soon as we can or we rather we prefer it happens that way So we don't have to deal with more conflict from outside, but what is the red pill? Let's get to the positive stuff Going after what you want to optimize in your life regardless of what society says this to me is the number one thing some of us Want a bunch of girls some of us want a relationship some boys want to live in the forest some of us want to live in the city Doesn't matter, but it's going after what you want some of the biggest arguments. I have with people is that I have a very Clear and I've always had a very clear idea what I want out of life and sometimes and some of it Agrees it whatever one some of it does not Well, what's important is it's mine and I see the reaction when I Stand up for you know what I think I want out of life So I know that many people just based on some of the conversations I had last night I know that many people have the exact same experience Forming opinions based on real-world experience and not socially induced indoctrination also known as bro signs if you I'm a big fan of bro signs personally and this is from a guy, you know who has a degree in physics. I 100% believe that it you know It doesn't have to be right to be correct You know you whatever works for you is what works for you and if it brings you happiness And it does not destroy other people Then you're doing alright And Operating from a state of courage fulfillment and abundance and this one should be clear, you know if you believe that It's possible to do a thing that you can go after or go out and do that thing and that that sounds You know like some kind of motivational who were out whatever but I'll never forget I was looking at some video of some guy going around Picking up girls on a beach and it was one of those YouTube videos, you know They say some are stayed some are not who knows right point is my buddy and I were looking at these videos And we said that looks so cool and then another friend of ours was like man, that's obviously Frank You can't do that and I said wow And I didn't argue with my friend but but at this point I had learned enough, you know Some of the things I'm going to talk about in this presentation. I had enough experience with those things So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to look at you and wonder why you don't think that's possible But I'm not gonna argue So what happened where you swallowed a red pill some of you are familiar with these steps But if not here's our continue we are our review It's not this way you don't think the world works that way You're in the denial stage everyone is in denial at the beginning Unless once again, you were fortunate enough to come up and know it is how the world is I Hate that it's this way anger and we all get so mad at How things really are no one just jumped from alright Santa isn't real and they just accept the non-man kids though tantrums man That's just what happens in many of the kids in this way Some of it's this way, but not all Then you bargain you you you try to Eat some of it throw the rest of it back up But you can't you can't go back to fairy tale land. I guess this is Not too hip on the particular lingo or at least what constitutes this phrase But I suppose this is what some people refer to as as purple pill You know where you where you have swallowed this thing and you're like, oh god It tastes horrible and you're trying to throw it back up and it comes back up purple and it's like Holy shit, it really is this way Depression you know once you you take in that People want to be a certain way and you just can't it just can't go to it you know we talk about hypergamy and That concept really bothers a lot of people, but who will bother is more than guys who reject it or guys Who have accepted it and they realize that it places the burden of performance on them They cannot just have it the way they want it to be you have to work to be a certain way as I always say nature Does not care about your feelings Nature is not a social justice warrior nature only cares if you can fight and if you can reproduce I usually say another word that begins with F, but there's some Edding up here in the last part. It's all true acceptance Once we reach this point or you know, you're somewhere along the way You got a migratory. You're gonna go. Okay. Well, what's next everyone has a different response to it You know I Regardless, whether you're your mig towel or your pua or you want to build a trad life or whatever The point is you come to that conclusion only after you've you've absorbed all of this That doesn't mean your conclusions right or wrong But your process that you've arrived at it is correct You have seen that the world is in desperate need of something some different response Some different way of living and you want to go on about that So how do you continue I? Went and found this quote. I thought it was really cool You know if you belong to the world It would love you as its own as it is you do not belong to the world But I've chosen you out of the world. This is why the world hates you Amen John 1519 That quote speaks to us all here I Know that from my experience. I know that from talking to me you last night One of the most difficult things to be is to be aware of the truth Especially when everyone else is operating from a position of falsehood a position of I want this to feel good Not I want to do what is best and very often those two things do not coexist They are mutually exclusive So how do you continue once you have decided to no longer be part of the world? step one These are just some things I learned that you're gonna see now. You got to let the sleeping dogs lie That quote from the Matrix we never free a mom once it's reached a certain age It's dangerous. The mind has trouble letting go. I was talking to someone last night at 53 years old 53 years old and he was saying he was he was getting red. I don't think wow, man That's really impressive because most people That long they're not gonna touch it Is you Being someone who is touching it you have to remember you don't get any points For making other people see that you've done this and that many people are gonna resist Your influence your ability to try and wake them up because to you How they're living is incorrect or at least it's not optimal When you try to point that out to them they're gonna like well, what do you know? You know to them they think they're happy they have everything they want security is Relievably seductive and it's way more inviting than freedom and freedom is really what the red pill gives us This red pill in lets us see reality for what it really is and when people don't want to do that If you want to continue to be around them You have to just let them be that's really what the crux of everything you want to say afterwards comes back to you You have to let them Be them you got to let people do themselves as they say or we say I'm gonna do me right The game is to be sold not to be told man. I love that quote So much. I don't know if it's just the rap fan and me and I Because it works so well No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself. I have a theory. I think The better your life is the less hardship you have to face growing up The more difficult it's going to be for you to accept anything related to the red pill I think when we touch some tragedy when we have an event that lets us go, holy hell How did this happen for me? It was that event what the girl and the baby maybe for somebody is finding out the wife is being Not faithful to an extreme amount but we have We have these these events that that wakes us up and Not we've touched it. We can't unknow it. We can't not experience it You know, we really wish we could sometimes sometimes I like to believe That the reason I didn't get presents when I was a kid is because Santa said yo, I'm not messing with your black ass this year When in reality it was yo, we didn't have nearly enough money. It was food or it was Christmas presents That's the reality We can't believe in that so you have to remember if you're gonna talk to any of your friends about this stuff and ate a people close to you Gauge what they've experienced See if they're there if they are blissfully happy or I'll say blissfully ignorant really then Let them be let them be because they're providing you companionship and friendship and and they are alleviating any type of loneliness you may face But if you got somebody who's dealing with something rough and the world's kind of like Shaking shaking them up. I'm like, hmm This isn't how it is. Well, maybe maybe they'll listen to you The Hawthorne effect is your worst enemy If you tell the rats that they're in the maze, they'll stop searching for cheese just to prove a point Now I don't know how many people here are familiar with the Hawthorne effect It's one of my my favorite things that it boils down to this If you tell people that you are searching or if you tell people that you're watching for a certain behavior They'll do one of two things. They'll either behave in that way because of some kind of incentive Or they will not behave in that way because there is some kind of penalty Or they just want to ruin your day and your experiment The point is you won't get the natural data that you need To draw the conclusion about reality because we we talk about this in terms of looking at natural experiments and seeing how people respond In the environment, right? So what does this have to do with forming better connections with people as a red pill person in a blue pill world? What's the first rule fight club? Don't talk about fight club, right? No, I mean, I look I don't know why they said that I mean, I know okay Look I think about you I would want to talk about fight club But I like to apply this to everything else particularly with girls the first thing many guys want to do especially the young ones is They want to talk about How to use them some game man? I mean, I think I think the one of the biggest search terms of these field reports And these lay reports, right? And that's all good man drop that knowledge so the rest of us can learn But when you're talking to people Who you perhaps using it on people you're reading not just for a sexual Encounter, but if you are understanding, you know your friends or motivations that they may not be aware of and you're trying to tell them about it Look they are going to go out of their way to spite you. You're gonna ruin a friendship You're gonna ruin a potential relationship just so they can say that game stuff doesn't work rip It was nonsense look I showed you and if you had just shut your mouth and Just got to work You would have been alright, but now you told them now you've ruined potential relationships and probably hurt current ones If you can't tell I'm really big on keeping the people close to you who you've had your whole life You know you you do build and reach out make new friends. All of you are my friends now, hopefully But you don't want to discard old people as well because there's no reason to if you don't have to Healthy cynicism beats remorseful anger You will fall to ruin because you believe that exceptions to the rule make the new rules Now we talk about this not all ex are like that the mistaken believe that you can Name someone here because the average doesn't exist You can name someone to far in because the average doesn't exist and that's how we we usually use that when we talk about the female nature and Things like that. Oh, you know most women behave this way therefore the fact that that girl Isn't behaving the way. Oh, you just wait you just wait, right? and And there's two implications to this one is the most common one which is you need to know what you're dealing with and You need to sit back. You're not going to fall into traps that many men Commonly fall into and you won't fall into those traps because you are waking your hip to the game units while the red pill and everything All right, but then there's the other implication and many people don't like to talk about Tell you a story. I Been I've been with the same girl now for like six years And there's a great time and I'm a very happy guy but that first year I Were I said to her I still say to her jokingly I said Either you are the greatest actress in the world And you're gonna get the Academy Award Award again Or you are a rare human being I'm gonna just keep riding this out in the sea and I just sat back and I was Looking for all the red flags at our own Facebook not a bunch of random dudes liking the pictures and Putting heart faces and things like that. Okay. Okay. We're good. We're good Low social media profile Instagram. Okay, we're good. We're good. We're good Came from a house with a whole family. Okay. Okay. Okay. Your father wasn't in the picture. Wait, wait, what? Oh, he died when you were getting one. When did he die? You know, I Didn't say that the point is That if you get you I was so used to dealing with This part that I would had no idea how to deal with someone who actually did exist at this part And we usually think about it in the reverse and I'm really happy that she was Patient with my craziness, you know, this isn't some some love letter whatever. I'm just making a point and that point is That had I believed that all women are exactly like that I would not be open to any that Are and I did believe that But you have to get some experience you have to remember that you're gonna encounter some exceptional individuals now now remember by definition Those individuals are rare. They are not the norm and those are the ones that you need to Bring into your world and bring them into your world slowly But bring them into your world surely avoid I told you so syndrome You know and this is a this is a big one for many of us in here Because What happens when you can see the world on cloud it when them and the smoke is no longer covering Your eyes and you know exactly what's going on Well, you you want to tell your friends you want to you want to tell them and you want to warn them when they're about to get into a situation Everyone in here well many of us anyhow Have had that friend and we were like man. I know That your girl is no good Not only I know she's no good man. I saw her Hell man. She was with me He's like man you gotta get out of here with that man You can keep one of them keep one of them and really you are doing it from the goodness of your heart That's that's what's mom balking is that For you you are driven by very pure motivation you want to look out for your friend by how does he see it Well, he sees it as you trying to wake him up and he ain't ready to wake up. He ain't ready to believe This santa didn't get a flat tire He wants to keep believing the Santa said nah, I'm not delivering it out of houses you And then when things go south is they often do when you can foresee and predict them correctly He's gonna he's gonna be in a really bad position. He's gonna be hurt and You have to resist the urge To tell him I told you so and not even exactly like that because that is obnoxious and childish to say I told you So right no one does that But we would we like to point out, you know, well, I gave you these warning signs and and it was this and remember that time I said that you know No, it doesn't do anything but push people away Doesn't make your life Better it doesn't make their life better. I believe that one of the responsibilities of being red pilled is that You kind of become a shepherd To those who are not, you know, the people are gonna make Unbelievably stupid mistakes and they're gonna be mistakes that you foresaw happening that you warned them about or you could have warned them about And maybe you don't because you know, they won't listen Maybe you do and they don't listen anyway well When the mistakes aren't catastrophic when people don't lose their lives and when random children don't show up who? wouldn't be here otherwise The best thing you can do is is be a good friend. You can be a supportive friend You can understand you have to understand that just because you woke up that mean everyone else is gonna move to the same alarm clock It's not gonna happen But be patient and maybe it will one day and if it doesn't you got a good friend when you need to step away From from all this by the way, I want to I want to when I say all this what I mean is, you know, we We know what it's like already we know The red pill universe we know the truth But goodness gracious imagine if everything you consumed was only red pill How could you stay positive about anything in the world? It's kind of like why why I don't follow the news anyone who follows me on Twitter knows I'm a my big talker about how I do not wise news. I could not tell you anything that's going on I know we got some new guy making laws now. That's like and they and I guess he was a big drinker That is the extent of my knowledge of current events you're gonna need to step away You can't go back in permanently But maybe you want to just go and have a break and to have a break to have people that want to have you around You can't piss them off when you're feeling real red. It's like come on man. What are you doing all tender? You already know you're giving them validation bro. We got here. No, you got to let these sleeping dogs lie You have to let them be that way because you're gonna need them one day and that's a real hard thing That's why you're gonna need them to keep you sanity forgiveness We forgive them for they know not what they do any but any rap fans in here knows that voice that I just dropped into Yes, I'm but someone's like yeah, yeah, that's stuff from notorious dogs, man That's not the actual quote, but the but the idea is is that I Don't think many people Hurt you intentionally I Don't think People really think about you at all to be honest with you I Think what happens is people have their own drives and their own motivation and every now and then you happen to be in The way you collateral damage is what most of your grievances are With other people and you take them personally because well, you're a person I mean what else you want to do look if you you run into my car I mean I had to replace my car earlier this year and And I was like man you mother you ran to me Meanwhile, he is just a guy trying to get go drink on a single to mom and he's not thinking about me I just happen to be right in the way, right? and and Intellectually understanding that is the first step to forgiveness and there's gonna be a lot of forgiveness The more red you get The hardest part for me in this Aside from forgiving myself because that was very difficult because I had to forgive my mother because My mother while she did the best she could She she brought us up in an environment It was not conducive around people that we should not have been around and exposed as things We should not have been exposed to and I was I was fortunate I am here standing on this stage in front of people Teaching about how I move past it and the tools that I use and I continue to do that. My sibling is not so fortunate and For a long time. I was angry very angry angry at her Because I used to because when you when you're angry, right? You can or with any person who wrongs you who's close You can sit there and focus on The good in them and see this is a temporary transgression a mistake or You can focus on the mistake and completely ignore any good that they did for you I don't think many people wave wave those two things out Fairly and evenly and so either we you know, we forgive people who did us really badly or we hold the grudge against someone who maybe just Crossed us the wrong way that day and was the wrong time. Well, I didn't do that with my mom I did not take the high road for most of my early 20s In fact one day at things giving the last Thanksgiving. I had with her for like five years. I said, you know what? Why in the world did you even have us? Like I thought that it's great for as I am for life I said that to her. I said, why did you have us? because you weren't ready and All these these reasons why and we were you know, I say that my mom was a single parent But I mean the truth is my dad paid child support and he did expose those We didn't have a father in my home. He lived way away and we seen him like once or twice a year all right and And I didn't know I mean maybe that was the first time I was really getting exposed to the red pill and Seeing the rule the real way the things are but the only way I was able to get past that is I had to Intellectually hold my head that She did the best you could and a lot of the people around you are Doing the best they can when people criticize your new way of Seeing the world of thinking about the world of interacting with people they don't hate you They don't even hate the red pill they don't even know what the red pill is you ever try and explain it to somebody who doesn't know it's like It's like explaining that water is wet and I'm like Just touch the water man. You can see but yeah, but how's it that way and they they don't get it though They all they see is a few people got drowned and like come on man. That's the wrong thing to focus on But these people are not they don't dislike you they don't hate you They hate what you You have challenged the reality And because you didn't challenge the reality end up in prison, you know, obviously you're wrong The fact that you're a free happy person means that something has to go either their world is wrong or your world is wrong Instead of understanding that perspective is perspective. So they don't They're not they're not against you. They don't hate you. They don't have anything against anything that we're about They have a problem with themselves and your free mind reminds them of that and you have To not take it personally. I just know That when I'm around certain people people I love people who I wouldn't be here at this moment right now for who just happened to be extraordinarily blue Right. I understand That certain things they're just not gonna get and it's only gonna make us miserable we discuss it So instead of thinking about the time where they tried to insult me or somebody snot jabs I get on social media when I make a post from people who are my friends, right that I know in person I just I just remember pimp Jesus And what pimp Jesus is standing for he's telling me I got to forgive him This has got to let it go And be happy because once again those people are gonna be there for me when I'm when I need some random You know tons of stories from my life. That's how I present One of my friends who is who me he he tries to bring up politics at every turn and you guys know I don't talk a lot politics at all like I said But we got a new guy and he drinks a lot of beer and now he smashes a gable. It's cool that's what I know and He's not a that that that story I told you about the guy when we were watching the Videos and watching a guy pick up the on the beach. Well, yeah He was he was the one in that who said, you know, I don't see how that's gonna pause me, right? We're very opposed on these ideas But let me tell you something I moved back from California to where I live now in Pittsburgh, and I had no place to live I mean literally I had no place to live and no money He said why don't you stay at our spot? I rent you the room upstairs for $200 a night. I mean a month not a night I said I rented a room for $200 a month and that was incredible because at that point time between now and I was Working that team over one And I had some unemployment from California. I was pimping the system That was still That was that was that was a blessing man And if I had if I had instead focused on How he started to view my new views and we made a class I wouldn't have that friend I wouldn't have that support system so these people you you love them But you don't you don't have to just because you have an ideological difference is what it boils down to You don't have to become enemies and you certainly don't want to become enemies because you never know when you'll need their help a simple test Hey, look more rap lyrics from a black guy surprise surprise Meek mill does love us to this shit, right? So when I'm gauging about what when I'm gauging whether I can introduce a concept to a person I Want to see how they deal with something lesser. I want to see how they can Swallow a different view of reality on a smaller topic If I want to talk to a guy About how crazy and ridiculous and pointless. I think voting is I'll tell him sugar is crack And I'll see how it responds, you know, that's doesn't it's an easy one everyone thinks you need a little bit of sugar Let me see how he goes with this and We can have a healthy argument on nutrition No one decides to unfriend their family members because one's a vegetarian and the other's carnivore I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't happen But I haven't seen it the the the arguments around nutrition don't tend to get as heated Around politics people ready to to disown the family name because somebody's in office who don't give a damn about you so I Choose smaller things to see how they think are they open to freeing their mind at all Is this even a person I can have a more in-depth conversation with about women or Religion or Politics because those things Put you in a position to where you're gonna have to alienate someone or shut up and take abuse and either that's either you filling some kind of some kind of Revenge That's what it comes down to we want to win the content we feel when we're shut down We look for ways to strike back or the other person feels like I got you And now they're gonna lure it over your head and bring it up because people are buying large terrible at suffering a victory and I say suffering a victory because When you can't handle victory in many ways, it's worse than losing But these simple tests these simple tests Let's you know if you can have a conversation if you can go deeper and if you can't if They're not and you're not looking for agreement. You're looking for open-mindedness because a person Can completely Oppose you on every point, but if they have good reasoning and they listen to you then perhaps This is someone you can talk with make a new friend. Maybe not Pull out the system, but when you go back into the system, you got your preferred buddy to chill with you know How to make friends and influence sheep? I Really wanted to put the quotation marks around that, but I'm not that level of narcissists yet This is a quote from me from my Twitter Everyone doesn't emerge from hardship the same way some are tougher some are traumatized while others are completely broken Some want to forget some can forgive while there's burn with hatred ready for revenge Similar experiences are no guarantee of similar reactions That last line is key Because I know earlier in the presentation. I said you want to gauge a person's receptiveness based on what they've experienced and And and that's still correct But you have to remember for every guy that goes you know what all that stuff you were saying was right I'm going to start learning and we going chill man. You got to break this game down to me There's another guy that's gonna go. You know what I just messed up this time. I didn't I did it wrong I got to go back and double down on what's going on before and you're still and and it's almost as if the failure reinforces The behavior that caused the failure in the first place People aren't learning from What happened and not only are they not learning they look at you is still the agent of Poor and bitter truth when in reality you could possibly be their savior But like experiences are no guarantee of like reactions, but it is a really good place and I bring this up because Negotiation and coercion Those that's the soft way That's the skilled way to change someone's mind as opposed to brute force and conscription and things of that nature I'm bullying Well, I know several times I've looked at What a person had gone through and I said, how can you still think this way? How can you still do this? How can you be so stupid? I've actually said the people I care about and That does not do anything For a relationship that does not do anything to make sure that this is a person if I'm ever in a bad spot I Can depend on and vice versa if they're ever in a bad spot. They can call me up. It's nothing worse than when you have a buddy Who who you could have helped you could have gotten out of a really? Bad position and he did not reach out to you because You're always beating down his thoughts ideas and actions. Look, there's there's one thing time for good advice and To give someone away To be better You can't push them through the door though You can't make them do it and when you do push you're going to get an equal opposite reaction if they're not ready to go and Maybe your relationship Very often your relationship cannot sustain that and if you're interested in sustaining the relationship You've just got a lot of person Have their own method their own reaction their own way of doing things if they are not receptive Embraces your difference. The worst loneliness is to not be comfortable with yourself. I Know I Know sometimes It's funny that the girl I was talking about that the girlfriend. I live with she's always She she she she worries. She's like she says don't hermit Don't hermit. You can't hermit. I'm like, I know it when I survived 27 years before I met you Leave me alone. All right, but she's got a point because when you start thinking differently You It's almost this elitist feeling you're like I have I don't want anything to do with those guys I don't want to think and do with these old my old friends because you know, whether you feel like They're not gonna understand you or You feel like you are so much better now for whatever reason The superpowers are kind of like that and in my opinion from a toll from our sociological standpoint Understanding the red pill and taking it and then enacting it that is as close to a superpower is like It's like pimpin. I guess I don't know You get people's minds and you know, it's gonna happen and you can anticipate and move around it. It's very cool, right? and It's very easy to feel like you're better than other people. It's very easy to feel like You they they should be begging for your attention but if you take this approach if you go this route if you don't Embrace the difference and still try to insulate and still try to integrate yourself with the community Then you're going to find yourself very lonely by attrition rather than Forcing your relationships to deteriorate because of an argument about this or a disagreement about that You're just gonna fade into the dust people gonna be like, oh, man. I ain't seen that in like three years What happened to him? I think he's in prison really nice life. We just don't talk to me more We haven't seen him. He doesn't reach out to us. We all know this happens when we get guys Everyone's got that buddy. They got a girl and then poof I mean, that's it poofed. Nothing follows up to that. He's just gone You don't want to be that guy it is now everyone needs a period of readjustment and when I was when I was making this slide And I was thinking about how this applied in my life. I remember You know for yours you don't know coming up on my my fifth year of sobriety and Hey, thanks When I when I stopped drinking For the first year more like the first two years rule so the first two years I don't think and I used to spend all I mean my friends I was the guy you called and I was the guy you wanted to spend time with everybody I Was still get the messages and then gradually I would not respond and then I wasn't I went on a group chat and I put that on mute and I Blawled myself off to the point where I almost committed the ultimate The ultimate offense. I almost left the fantasy football league man. Oh, yes. I'm really laughing serious but Funny only enough the thing that saved me from doing it was another friend of mine had to step out and I said I can't leave these guys short Two people I'll stick around and then my mind set chains and I really Gat back to trying to socialize and go out of my way Because I've reached the point and I think we all have to reach this point That's really the point of my presentation is we have to reach this point We have to reach this point where we're very comfortable with who we are without other people being comfortable with who we are as Anyone who has decided to take the red pill or is Affiliated or with someone who has decided to take the red pill you know very much How hard it is to find like-minded people, but you have to accept It's just the rule of standard deviation and a normal probability distribution Sorry for the math talk. It just happens that when you get To the third standard deviation where you become so outstanding and so different by definition It's going to be very difficult to find people to fit in and you have to become comfortable with that But you cannot become a complete loner We don't want to be lonely. That is the number one thing that is and really that's what's been weaponized and in the fight to kind of Quell The red pill is go these guys are a bunch of lonely losers. We hate women or whatever and things like that And they always focus on the I always hear the lonely and the angry part together and and while I understand That they are just Painting a battle painting a picture in a narrative to wage war against Well, well, it's our job to not make that so easy And one of the ways to do that is to still blend in to still be part of the crowd There's a last part You have to accept the world as it is Yes, acceptance is a choice a hard one most definitely, but a choice nonetheless I wish I had put who said that because I know it wasn't me But it's a cool quote And I found this picture this guy is just watching it burn man Some guys decide to enjoy the decline Other guys decide to rebuild with families Other guys go make towel Some guys get a sex doll Apparently they open the brothel up in in in Europe and it's sold out for three weeks on Prebookings Which means like that's a deliberate decision like that's not man. I was coming back and I was drinking And I decided to try to sell that's like I am in I'm committed Oh, yeah No, but no matter what path you take, you know at the end of the day people or people one The extension of that are the natural result of that is that people attempt to create systems And attempt to enact order and control and to gain more power because power is how you gain influence two Three the more influence you have The easier it is for anyone on your team. So everyone on your team fights to gain more influence Three and four no one fights for draw Everyone tries to advance and win at some point. So whenever you hear this whole idea of equal this equal that Just know that some blue pill nonsense coming over the radio waves to you I put that bullet point checklist out there for this slide though to let you know That that's just how it's going to be And the best thing you can do As somebody who is taking this wonderfully tasting pill Is you can Not piss off the other side You cannot make yourself a target Because when you make yourself a target you're letting everyone know what a battle is and there's a lot more than there are of us We may be stronger ideologically and we may be stronger on purpose And we may have been through more trauma and our battle heartened but at the end of the day we are fighting from a position of Not weakness but minority in lower numbers And you will need these people at the end of the day because look not everyone even knows there's there's a battle Some people don't want to be involved in the battle. You want they know it is Some people just want to be your friend and you want some people to just be your friends They just want to have a good life And you don't do yourself any favors when you go out there and you when you Put so much effort into making someone else live by your standards That's the issue. We have what a lot of the sgw crowd Is that they put so much effort into trying to look look man. I don't care what your gender is honestly I really don't it's never been a concern of me. But the moment you tell me I gotta Cooperate with Everything that is said or put forth the moment you tell me I got to change the words I use and how I write You know microsoft word actually scolded me for non gender neutral language the other day It's crazy, man but my my point is that we don't need to Convert people to our cause anymore than we need Then then we want the other people that you know, we want them to stop trying to convert people Our people anyone's people to their cause just live And be a good example And your example will draw people in who are ready and people who aren't man. Look, you know, skin off your back I'm always you know the most selfish thing you're gonna hear me say is for every guy Not awake It's another person Or that's that's one less piece of competition one less piece of awareness one less One less any person to occupy the same space that you're trying to occupy So that's just one way to look at it. I don't necessarily fully agree with that But you know, however you decide to see something I think we were talking around stone Last night he said look man, if I tell a god a moon has made a cheese and it makes them work out Then I'm gonna tell them the moon has made a cheese, right? same idea whatever works for you To accept that your world has got to be your ward and you don't want to go out of your way to alienate and Make these people fight you And oppose you is what you should do That's the end The end as it says Never appeal to the truth unless you're prepared for the anger that comes with disillusionment Rolo Tomasi when he said that On twitter to me. I was like, I told him immediately. I was like, man, that's that's going in the slot man. That's fantastic And it's true man because People are not nobody wants to hear This santa is not real Everyone wants to believe the presence just appeared. No one wants to believe That you have to put forth Quite a bit of effort and work to make yourself attractive to the mate you believe you desire Everyone wants to believe That it just so happens man. You're just fell in love magically bones Just fell in love with that guy with all that money is how it happened So At the end of the day Your friends who don't think like you can remain your friends You don't need to go out of your way to convert them But the ones that do want to be converted the ones that do want to learn more and and when I use the word convert That really is the best verb I have. I don't want people to think I'm some kind of crazy coal leader We are put trying to start Uh something new but that's just the best word I have and and you want to build Some borders are the Montreal relationships and bridges with people And you don't need to wall them off unnecessarily. That is the end of my speech Thank you very much I know this isn't a herping glass. I said y'all need to give me a new glass and he was saying I said to the three people when they got her any questions Oh man people standing on wall here we come I'm in it leaving okay Oh not I was on okay All right. Thank you for your speech. I was very inspiring my question is how do you navigate a long-term relationship that you currently in With this new knowledge of the red pill some concrete steps to better current relationship Uh partner a long-term relationship or wife whatever Okay, great. So just so I'm clear the question is how do I have a relationship knowing what I know now Yeah, how do you navigate your current relationship with this new found knowledge? How do you I'll give two really quick succinct pieces of information and as always all you guys can catch me whatever one um Well begun is have done Oh when I talked about screening her that was mostly, you know real I didn't ask like Oh, man, when did your father die? I've been like no I was I was really screaming along and making sure that if I was going to put that that time and commitment in That she was going to be worthy of the energy I put in So that's step one before you even get into a relationship make sure it's with someone worthwhile as far as navigating day to day I really at the end of the day I asked myself this question I go if she came home today and said, you know what I got to talk or we got to talk, right? Would I be excited? Or would I be like, oh man, what am I going to do? Right? The point is If I'm not answering that I'm excited that means I'm falling off someone now What I'm not saying that I want to be excited to break up my girl Obviously six years a long time to be holding that excitement and if that's what I was trying to do No The point of bringing that up is that I need to make sure I'm constantly better myself so that If I was suddenly cut off I would be able to go meet a new girl or have a good life or enjoy Just enjoy my freedom because look man I've been been broken up with broken I've been broken up with with money and being up broken up with with money is a lot better And the consequence of making more money is that you become a better human being more capable of Fulfilling that loneliness gap that we try to avoid or being more desirable for your friends to hang out Well, you just you know, it's not always money like making money selling crack. Obviously that's not good But overall you should be trying to improve is the point I was making if you do those that thing Just keep getting better and you selected a good partner from the jump really not being afraid to screen them Slow to hire quick to fire comes to mind Then you should be okay. Thanks so much for your talk today. I really appreciate it Um in your experience With your friends your tribes your your buddies Do you see yourself kind of putting people in different boxes or tribes or is it really really individual? and then what Is it realistic for All the men in this room for you to think of a group of guys who Who are red pill that you really just are completely free about or is everybody just kind of mixing together and different? Uh question one. Well, I think this is two questions. I'll treat you to two questions. Anyway, one is it Is it a do I separate groups up? Absolutely There's some people you cannot talk to some things about And if you talk to those things you're going to be in for a not enjoyable conversation and to me It's always okay. What do I get out of this versus? What do I give up? Peace of mind is really effing valuable to me like I like you know, I don't lay down just For the sake of laying down But if I got a choice between engaging in a conflict while I'm going to get out of it is to say, oh, I'm right or just Being happy I'm going to choose being happy and more importantly I go out of my way to avoid certain topics when people trying to force me in Two conversations and I'm like, I know where this is going to go. I really don't want to go there So I'm wanting to not go there The second thing, you know, can I can I be free just throwing you guys? I would like to think so You know, I would I would like to think that if we we run into each other on the street and somebody wants to break down some Some some some games some red pills stuff Whatever I would like to think that you're free to talk to me and I'm free to talk to you and that's how I see everyone in this room That's kind of the idea. I would imagine behind this disemphasis on an anatomy and kind of No one knows where we're at because people here know that we we They cannot talk freely about these things And but but but we're human. We want to communicate But if we can't communicate, how would you find people to talk freely about? So thank goodness for the internet age and all the things to support our ability to get together And find people like mine to converse with so we're not so alone The uh, I'll end the question with this to to find people who are in the third standard deviation of Exceptionality it is very it was very difficult. But now you can just hop on the internet, you know, and I can find other people who think Like me and who I can discuss things and I can find other traps to build with that doesn't mean I give up the old Trab does this means I can find a new one to belong to Ed, how you doing man? I love this topic. Um, I work in advertising and it's a very loophole kind of world. So, um, you know for a guy who's You know been reading about and studying red pill stuff. Put your thoughts on like navigating That kind of a field Execute don't explain In other words, look man, if you know if you know something that's going to sell Or something that's going to do well But you don't want to you know trigger The the wire just going to make the bomb go off You got to improve your skill at being a detonator in other words You know we for example no one wants to talk about How every single alcohol commercial has chicks dancing around or dudes looking cool and powerful, right? But that's some red pill shit. It's like, yo, and here's what here's what I believe mine I don't I don't even know how many people knew this but it's gonna be mine And I even be looking for it. You're not allowed to show people consuming alcohol On television So next time you look at an alcohol commercial watch, you know, you're not going to see a guy drink But you're going to see some some thin hot chicks with long hair and short skirts And dudes looking like they just closed a million dollar deal in this sleep Smoking cigars and throwing back 1800 or whatever the alcohol is now You'll see that if you know that works, you don't need to look. I just dropped the idea They know it works too. They just can't say You know, it's going to sell a lot of liquor titties But Not only can you you can't say that But you know this you you presented a different way you in other words In your particular situation, and I think other people In other situations like this can take this lesson your verbal acumen In presenting the idea is going to go a long way And because at the end of the day, that's what matters One of the things I don't know if I stress that enough in the speech is that it's really not important to get everyone to agree with you It is important for you to protect yourself And to do the best you can With some of these principles, you don't need to get them to go. You know, well, you're right Let's put more titties in there. In fact, we got a girl with three get one with three Nah What you need to do is get them to make an ad that sells And if they tell you know what we need we need some rainbows and we need some Some girls sitting around talking about how to show hungover now You know that's not gonna work and how they're eating pizza out there I guess that's the thing man when they go to the pizza after the club, which is wow, but You don't need to show that right you need to show what works and don't man. Well, you know what works So just execute And don't explain but if you have to explain Explain it very well I You know, I heard what he said up here does on the lab At the beginning of your presentation, you briefly mentioned the burden of performance that comes with being red-pilled My question is What advice do you have for guys on becoming high achievers who weren't high achievers before they were red pill aware If you want to become a high achiever at anything you have to suffer The thing that's keeping a lot of people in my opinion from becoming a high achiever And I know this because look my next story I told where I was making to Where my boy was letting me pay $200 a month not a night a month To live there What was I doing my life? I saw it from boxing. I mean look man I was trying to trying to take every little bit of money I had and go down to the bar or drink How I ratchet College chicks man that that was that was life, right What that's not a life that develops and leads to being a person who who you know Anthony would feel comfortable inviting up to speak to you What got me to be the person I am now is I said, okay, I have to make a drastic change in my life and start Being uncomfortable and taking risks and being uncomfortable one one uncomfortable moment Joining the military at 28 being old as hell. I still ran fast and everyone right and Then the next uncomfortable moment was going okay I mean I posted this on instagram anybody who follows me where I had my high school grades from math And I was like, ah, but I've all the fields that pay man pay well Uh require math. Okay, boom and now recent now. It's like, okay I know that if I charge more people will think it's more valuable I was talking to Tanner and AJ about this Uh a few weeks ago. They're like the challenge now is okay I got to just deal with that discomfort of Charging a lot of money So so all of this comes full circle to me continually dealing with discomfort If you want to be a high achieving person if you want to be someone that People will find attractive either romantically or from a business perspective Then you have to demonstrate that you can perform under pressure and under pressure by definition Is uncomfortable So there is that Thanks for the talk man. Um So my question that comes in you kind of had this idea of a kind of like a blue friend group that you don't want to isolate yourself from Anyone have on the side to alleviate some of that loneliness that might come otherwise So I've also heard that you kind of become the three people you hang around with most They're gonna rub off on you one way or another So where do you draw that line between dropping the friends you don't want to be with but keeping the friends around to alleviate the loneliness Ah, I love when I get a chance to reference how I got sober So So when I when I decided that that me and alcohol were not going to have a good relationship anymore And it was time to break up. It was really me. It wasn't the alcohol I I said All right The first thing I got to do is just get away from everybody And I had to get away from everybody because I had to make my habit of sobriety strong strong enough to endure the pressure Implicit and explicit that would come with me being around people who drink All my friends still drink. I now hang out with them a lot more than I did when I first stopped drinking I couldn't hang out with them when I first stopped because I hadn't built up my frame Strong enough because I tried to stop before but I was too weak It wasn't it wasn't a good habit yet the habit of sobriety. How's this relate to your question? You're going to spend less time with them. That is just not even a question It usually we spend less time with your friends anyway if you're about achieving and about something As you do that as you're exposing yourself to new information and new people new ways of thought Your new thoughts will become stronger and more reinforced. This is this is why I don't think echo chambers are a bad thing I think bad echo chambers are a bad thing But if you get yourself around The people who think the way you want to think the only way to think like them is to reinforcement repetition Which you know kind of comes from an echo chamber things being found out for you So when you step out of that echo chamber and you decide to go back to some of your Blue friends who think a certain way You are not going to feel Anything you're going to be able to sit there and be yourself And if a certain topic comes up like like there are things that that we can debate till we're blue in the face Because because at the end of the day I do love a discussion Uh a good lively argument But if if a friend makes a trump joke, I mean I literally I look at him like he spoke chinese man Because I'm not interested in having that discussion I don't I don't talk politics and they and that's just what that that's a habit of of Not necessarily blue pill people but People who ascribe to politics. Well, I don't ascribe to me more So when you try to pull me in my friend is such that I don't even engage in you Or engage with you So that's what you want to do you want to be able you want to have and have faith And your ideas and your world views so much that another world view Is not going to pollute you now if they're just acting like assholes, you know you Distance yourself from that out of a piece of mind But if you're worried about being influenced I guarantee you that's not going to be an issue if you really believe What you are learning Hello, yes Very interesting discussion lots of insights I have a quick question It's on the topic of forgiveness about ideological differences The decision on whether to alienate or have limited association with somebody or people Who have hurt you? Because you may still Need them in the future in your life My question is where do you draw the line? So There's a saying forgive and forget right? Yeah, well, that's nonsense. Don't believe that You never forget But forgiveness is not forgetting forgiveness In my opinion if I had to give you the most rigid definition I could create on the spot forgiveness would be the ability to no longer Have an emotional reaction positive or negative to an event That was executed to you or that you observed right That at one point did have an emotional reaction now the sooner you can do that the sooner you can forgive in an ideal world Right, I guess this is what detachment aims to achieve is that you don't feel anything You just go that happened. All right, cool. I'm gonna go meditate some more peace All right So the line that we draw between whether we're going to deal with somebody Who who you know for whatever reason may put us in a position to hold a grudge with a whole negative feelings toward them and Whether we we forgive them or not, you know, you you have to remember that Just because you forgive someone doesn't mean you've got to mess with them That doesn't mean you got to be friends. You don't have to hang out with them Whatever all that means is that they no longer occupy space in your emotions And by extension Very often a space in your mind You don't have No, we're nowhere in forgiveness. At least how I interpret it. No one forgiveness. This is all right, man. I'm cool I know you bang my girl and took all my money But let's go watch the cowboys No, that's not how it works You don't have to be friends with somebody who demonstrates themselves to be of dubious character Because that character that you're exposed to that's going to degrade Your quality of life is going to put you at risk. You don't have to take that stupid risk You don't have to put your physical body in danger But you do want to relieve your mind and your heart of the burden of Thinking about this person because really when you don't forgive somebody you they win They occupy space in your mind and your heart The for free really for You don't get anything out of it. In fact, it only takes you pay you pay for them to occupy spotting your mind Your heart. So what I'll say to to some I'll ball it at is that you don't have to spend time on anybody It's just because you forgive them All that means that you no longer have an emotional reaction to them And you can let it go and then that makes it easier for you to feel your life of love too No, hippie. That's all the time we have gentlemen. Give it up for out lot of more I'm taking my glass