 I told the Attorney General to repeal it any way in the world he could as quickly as he could that I would like from the vote at 18, and I would like to repeal the poll tax. He came up with his lawyers, and he says that the best way to repeal it is to establish discrimination, and I can establish it in all the states with Vermont. But they'll bring the case on Vermont, and that'll be the case that they'll take to the court, and they will not hold that it's a discriminatory in Vermont because it's not. Doesn't even apply to the poor, and he said, I'll lose him there. Now these boys are not good lawyers, and they just won't stand up, so I have to take his judgment. But I didn't get out and quarrel about it one way or the other, but the Senate finally followed the Attorney General, and they understood it, and even the boys themselves did. And that passed the Senate, but while they were talking about it, McCormick was afraid that somebody would be stronger for the Negro than he was. So he picked up the Kennedy argument that made the Senate over in the House. So he came out, read hot, far, complete repeal, so he and the Attorney General on opposite sides now. But the Attorney General's got no choice because the Speaker's going to put it in there. So that's going to be a different bill from the Senate bill. So then if we beat off McCullough, if we win with him, we still got one bill in the Senate and one in the House. That's what the Southerners, the smart parliamentarians, want us to do. They want your wife to go one direction and you to go the other. Then the kids don't know which one to follow. So they've got that happen. Then we go to a conference, and suppose we get them all in a room, and you come and talk to them, and everybody else talks to them, and says, please, get your agreement, we're willing to follow the agreement. Then they got to go back to Judge Smith to get him to give a rule to get the conference report up. That just makes it, we all never have to do that, because he won't give it. So then we got to notify him and give him 21 days notice. They want to get out of here Labor Day, and they're playing for that time. Now they've been doing that for 35 years that I've been here, and I've been watching them do it. And the only times that we beat them is when I beat them in 57, when I beat them in 60, and when I beat them in 63. This year we got to beat them again, but that's what they're doing, and you can't beat them unless you know what they're doing. That's about it. So I would say there are about two things that ought to be done. You ought to have the strongest man that can speak for you, and the most knowledgeable, legislative wise, can authorize to tell people, like the speaker, at what you want. You don't want this fight going on, and you ought to find out who you believe you can trust. If you can trust me, if you can trust the Attorney General, if you can't trust us, why trust Teddy Kennedy or whoever you want to trust, and then get behind them and see that they take the thing. Because I'll give every ounce of energy and ability of any that I have to passing the most effective bill can be written at night's session. And I think that was one of the most effective things that ever happened. But you had worked for months to help create the sentiment that supported it. Now the trouble is that fire's gone out. We've got a few coals on it, and we've got to put some more than a little cedar back on it and put a little coal oil on it. Whitney Young and Phil Randolph, you can work together. Come sit in the hotel room and talk to your people and get your reports and watch it for a day or two. And be able to talk to a man like Speaker McCormick and like the Majority Leader and tell them what you want them to do. Because this morning the Vice President, now he is very, very strong for you. And he's heart and soul is in this. Now he said, please, man, let's don't go to conference and let Judge Smith keep us another 21 days. Let's don't get in a fight among ourselves. And the Attorney General is right. And let's get language and the leadership conference is ready to go along on modified language. And I've got it here in my pocket. But McCormick said, oh no, they're the one which you do it, then they'll come in and blame me. And I'm going to go for the strongest thing. I can go far so nobody can blame me. I said, well, what are you going to do in the court hold? It's no good. It's going to be, well, that'd be down the road. Well, that's where we are. And you get the best of all here. It's you and Roy. And the Paulikats and Vax legal judgment. And come in here and follow my political judgment and see if we can get a bill passed. This afternoon, before we're demanded our bomb, nothing might ease in. I'm trying to keep those zeroes down and trigger a conflagration that would be worse. We pulled out. I can't stay there and do nothing. That's the only pressure we have. But the next day, they'll just leave the folks alone. But they won't do it. So the only pressure we can put on is to try to hold them back as much as we can by taking their bridges out to the land, by taking out their ammunition dumps and destroying them, by taking out their radar stations to prevent them from shooting down our planes. Now that's what we've been doing. A good many people, including the military, think that's not near enough. I want to do a lot more. And I've tried to keep it to that, so I won't escalate it and get in no trouble with China and with Russia. And I don't want to be a warm-up. At the same time, if I didn't do that, I'd stay as long as I could the other way. I held up until February after I came in in November. I went from November to November and from November to February. But they kept coming. They just kept coming and I couldn't stand it any longer. I had to get out or do it. Now I'm the best judgment that I know how. If I pulled out, I think that our commitments would be no good anywhere. I think it would immediately trigger a situation in Thailand that would be just as bad as this. I think it would be right back to the Philippines here to death. Our commitment to them was to know what we'd have other places in the world. I think it's the situation we had in Lebanon. I think it's the situation we had in Greece, Turkey and Iran. None of these people take these people's freedom away from them. And I'm trying. I didn't get us into this. We got into it 54. I had 3,000 men out there when I came in the presidency. I don't want to pull down the flag and come home running. I tell you between my legs, particularly if it's going to create more problems than I got out there. And it would, according to all. So I've got a pretty tough get direction and judgment and leadership that permit me to do what's right. But when you come in, I'll just have a Secretary of State talk to you, a Secretary of Defense, or any of our people. I'll give you all I know very much your attitude, your desires. It always has been an honor.