 All right, Charlie. Thank you so much for coming back on the show We're still here in the farmers market I just want to talk a little bit more specifically about your relationship with ACMI like let's say today I'm gonna go to ACMI why and what's it like when you first walk in the door, right? It's like a little community hub, you know, basically Like I come in and it's I see I feel like it's a family You know, I honestly do and I come and go sometimes I get real busy in my work and I Can't come in a lot, but I'm I'm getting back into it now. Yeah, cool. Yeah, it's like it's like a family you see people That you know from the community dropping dropping by right No, it's something I think a lot of people get wrong is that we're like some big television station We have to make an appointment to walk in it's like no Show up. We'll just say hi. No, it's like like I was telling you before You know when if there's something I care about It's the first thing I think about, you know, how do I get it out to the most amount of people and You know make it look good make it have impact And that is what the people here at ACMI teach you, you know, it's not that they'll do it for you No, no, no it's because that would be you know like impossible, right, but You know, I come in maybe once or twice a month and I bring my stuff and The cool thing is When I'm there editing say, you know, I'm offloading some stuff from my camera or whatever And I have an issue. You know, there's Jared sweet who is like The god of video editing, right, you know, basically sure self-taught Yeah, but he'll just come right over he'll take time, you know, I don't know how people do this switching You know, I guess Yeah, there's like 10 staff members with 20 different jobs. Yeah Like just if I raised my hand say could somebody help me There's always somebody who will take the time and be really gracious about it Yeah, and then the other thing I like Is sometimes I just come in I do my thing and then They'll be producing the news on Thursdays. Yeah, Thursday. Yeah And so I go up there and I can learn the audio board I can learn the video switcher the teleprompter These are all things that people probably know about from just hearing how things are produced, but right they make a very You know professional looking production Yeah, we don't have to but we like so yes Yeah, because it's and I want to I want to revisit your your podcast a little bit Just give me the beginning middle and end of How it started what you're trying to do with it, right, you know Does anyone helping you out with it that kind of thing anyone in specific? Are you just you just doing it yourself? I'm looking for an intern No, I would love to have an intern they kind of come and go interns, but I actually have three podcasts. Oh three That's okay. No, you wouldn't know I have one on a rowing which is an extreme passion of mine So like, you know how people like through like rowing. Yeah rowing a boat shell on the river So I interview people in that in the field of rowing. Yeah, they're it's really fun And it's because I'm you know obsessed with rowing really I've done a hundred and twenty episodes of that got two more coming up And then next two weeks and then I pull the That's in on video and then I pull the audio off for distribution to the podcast apps smart That's called ready row USA and then face the book TV is like I was telling before it started at ACMI and now I do it on this live streaming platform that I use and Then I share the footage the episode with ACMI so they can put it on their channels. Thank you Yeah, but it's it's kind of easy. I I mean for me. I don't have a large production crew Mm-hmm, so I just do the live stream and I plan it out as well as I can which is important Mm-hmm for it to go smoothly and then we do about a 30-minute Livestream and then I pull the audio And the other one is on alternative education. Oh like what it's fine. Well, it's We have a project that's been going on for 10 years called the pure agarji project here agarji So that is all about pure learning and pure production So kind of non hierarchical learning enterprises and techniques and tools so we've done I think 20 of those and And that that's maybe once every two three months that we do one of those With the people in this project. Mm-hmm. So it's it's a collaborative It's open open source public domain if you want to Copy it and you did it call it your own you can So it's kind of that vibe, you know that open source five Groovy and you know, you seem incredibly productive not seem like you are obviously incredibly productive person Do you have any advice you'd give to anybody watching that's afraid to get started? Yeah intimidated by all the equipment that kind of thing What's the challenge? What's the big thing that's not getting people out the door and into the ACMI to do something they want to do Boy, I think just you know Figure out what it is you care about. So there's been people coming by here One woman is cared about the flooding and in Nailed Brooke mm-hmm someone else was you know involved in social justice issues immigration and stuff and If you care about that just come in and sit down talk to Jeff or or Jasper Or James Milan, you know, just almost anybody will sit and you know, and they'll kind of onboard you So they'll get you started maybe as a crew member to Fly on the wall on another production Mm-hmm, and that's a great way to learn and then you know just kind of you do have to take some initiative Nobody's gonna like right, you know say I'll do it for you. No, but But they dry No, I mean it's just like I Don't know you could if you were if you're into bike safety, you know, you could do a Program about that. Mm-hmm. I've done pieces on the farmer's market I've done a piece for on rowing for the news program at ACMI and You know a whole bunch of different things were involved in the The issue of Raptors being poisoned by rat poison. Yeah, so owls that died in so we're we're doing pieces on that for the news You know, there's probably going to be a More of a documentary done on that. Yeah. Yeah, so that kind of thing, you know, kind of just work your way in and just hang out Right. I mean, I think it's unless I'm mistaken. I think you could just drop by almost any time Yeah, and just time during the week and if we're not there call the number and someone will show up I live five minutes away. Yeah, so I'm always I'm always ready and willing to just come down And you know, there's people there like so When I go in to do my editing on Thursday afternoons or whatever There's someone usually there who's extremely knowledgeable another producer You know who I can chat with and talk to and maybe maybe I'll work on their production Right. So it's like kind of a collaborative, you know exchange of skills and Knowledge, you know, and it just kind of grows organically No, I mean like the internet people could say is a great place for something like that, right? Meeting people and trying to find like my people like help with you know, you help with their production They'll help with your production like I make movies, right? So like that's a big thing But like there's something about just a real physical place that you go to where you see someone working on something and you look over their shoulder and Strikes your eye and you say wow and that wouldn't have happened if you didn't just walk in and say hello Exactly. So it's it's great that there's a place in almost every town Sadly, sometimes not in certain towns. We are very lucky in Arlington. This is a state of the art studio You'll learn equipment and there's all a range of equipment. So like really basic, you know Stuff that people can use and you you know, if you're a member you can check it out for free And uh, learn how to use it for free and You know, it's just a great place to Get some skills like that here here. Well, I think we'll end it there. That's a good place to end it Thank you again charlotte for being on the show Thank you for having me. Oh you are