 All right. So at this time, I'd like to call the May 23rd meeting of the town of Wellington redevelopment board to order. My name is Rachel Zemmary. I'm the chair. This open meeting of the redevelopment board is being conducted remotely for the governor's extension of the remote meeting provisions. This executive order of March 12, 2020, due to the COVID-19 virus. For this meeting, the ARB is convening via Zoom, as posted on the town's website, identifying how the public may join. Please note that this meeting is being recorded and that some attendees are participating via video conference. Accordingly, please be aware that other people may be able to see you and take care not to screen share your computer. Anything you broadcast may be captured by the meeting, by the recording, excuse me. We'll go ahead and take a roll call, starting with Kim Lau. Presence. Jean Benson. Present. Melissa Tentacolas. Not with us yet. And Steve Revolac. Present. Fantastic. And then we have two members of the Department of Planning and Community Development joining us this evening, Director Jenny Rait. Present. And Assistant Director Kelly Linema. Present. All right. So at this time, we'll move right into our first agenda item. And that is a discussion around the transition for the Director of Planning and Community Development and the ARB Secretary ex-officio position. And I will kick it over to Jenny, who we are so sad to see leaving. We want to thank you for everything you've done for the town and for the board. It's been such a pleasure working with you for the whole time that I've been on the board. So thank you so much. Thank you, Rachel. I have something prepared if it's OK. I'll just read from that and then we can kind of talk or I can answer questions. OK. All right. Well, this month, obviously I shared with the Arlington community that I would be leaving my position as Director of Planning and Community Development this month, actually June 3rd. As that date approaches, it's bittersweet as Arlington has been my sort of home for the past six plus years. While I don't live there, I very much feel a part of the community. I want to share my appreciation as well as my encouragement for what I see in the future with the community. Arlington has been a place where I have had a tremendous privilege of leading the department and guiding this board and many other committees, working groups and commissions. And I've appreciated working with numerous community volunteers over the years. I can't even count how many actually I tried to and that I gave up so many, so much volunteer energy in Arlington. And it's really something to be proud of. That level of engagement is actually unique and is something that I think is very important to the planning and community development work that we want to achieve. During my time here, I have been humbled by a community committed to ensuring progress on implementing its comprehensive plan and moving forward with key initiatives in land use and zoning, transportation, housing and community development, economic development, arts, history and culture and the environment and conservation and climate. This team has been united with that purpose, in my opinion. And this role allowed me to grow both professionally and personally in many ways. Even though my last day is on the horizon, I will remain a stalwart supporter and admirer of Arlington. I think we have accomplished a great deal, including launching the master plan implementation process, including development of five working groups, adopting a recodified zoning bylaw and numerous substantive zoning amendments, bringing new voices into community development and planning initiatives, creating advisory groups with which brought an engagement, diversified committees and led to new leadership, adopting many plans, including Connect Arlington, the long range transportation plan, the net zero action plan, two housing production plans, and a fair housing action plan today, just some of them. Development of the Mass Ave reconstruction phase two, including sidewalk reconstruction and the redesign of public plazas and parks in and around Arlington Center, spearheading the bus rapid transit pilot, which led to permanent installation of bus priority and now working on the bus network redesign, completing many reviews which led to the creation or the planned production of affordable homes, establishing the Arlington affordable housing trust fund, including through the support of this board, and sending it with inclusionary and seating it rather with inclusionary and CPA funds, hopefully reorganizing various governance structures, including one for the arts and culture organizations to create an umbrella policy funding and advocacy organization for the arts in Arlington, creating many, many programs throughout the COVID pandemic through CARES Act and now through ARPA and developing a framework for affordable housing, economic development and social programs with those programs, managing capital projects, including those of in our historic buildings that this board technically manages, including the expansion of our community center and applying for and securing and managing that many competitive grant programs that totaled over $5 million in the six plus years that I've been on board. As many of you now know, I am officially joining the Northern Middlesex Council of Governments to serve as the regional planning agency's executive director. I am equally parts excited and humbled by this new role that agency has an incomparable track record of impact in transportation, economic development and environmental initiatives at the regional level. Very excited to be part of the organization's next chapter. But since announcing my departure, I have been working as quickly as possible with the town manager, the human resources director, the DPCD team, and Rachel as the chair of the ARB to ensure a smooth transition. This includes reviewing work in progress and what I think is anticipated in the next six to nine months. For example, there will be follow up from town meeting to assist the clerk in filing paperwork with the attorney general's office. There are also a number of new special permit applications that will be before the board over the next three to four months. The board's rules and regulations will need an update. The open space recreation plan needs to be reviewed. The town council will be following up with the board regarding our executive session discussion about urban renewal. There will be changes to the urban renewal fund and its properties. And lastly, there will be new projects and plans in the months ahead. For those plans and projects, I've tried to set the stage with funding to support these initiatives, including funding design standards and the start of a master plan update. The MBTA community's final guidelines will likely be issued later this summer with follow up required by the town and for which staff is trying to identify funding to support the design of this initiative. And of course, there's many more projects happening in the Department of Planning and Community Development. With my departure, I anticipate that Kelly will be the board's point person for the interim. The position is of course posted. And we're in the midst of securing professional services from people who can assist with various department tasks that need to be shifted due to this personnel change, including housing monitoring, permit reviews, and certificates of completion and a stewardship program related with Conservation Commission. So with that, lastly, I'm grateful for the support over these years from former and current board and staff members, particularly Rachel, Sam Berry, Adam Chaptolaine, Kelly Lanema, and in the past, Andrew Bonnell, and Aaron Swarco, and the collaborative approach of Mike Champa, and others in the building real estate and design communities. A collaborative approach is the only way to move this community forward with community development and planning initiatives. The future success of Arlington is inexorably intertwined with the investments we make in planning and our quality of life, and in engaging people in that work. I remain deeply committed to this success. Even in my new position, I'll still be thinking of Arlington. I'll just be changing my vantage point back to original level. Please know that you can always call on me in service, even while I'm away with gratitude. Thank you. Thank you, Jenny. I really appreciate it. And I'd love to open it up to the board members. Jean, you have your hand up first. For any questions or comments that you'd like to make. Go ahead, Jean. I was mostly clapping. Oh, okay, we're clapping. I'll say something anyhow. I was mostly clapping, both for all of the great work, Jenny, that you did during the time that you were here. And also for your future and what you're going to do in the North Middlesex County of government. So, you know, a big congratulations for your accomplishments and for the road ahead. So thank you very much. Thank you, Jean. Steve, I don't know if that was clapping or a hand up to Well, actually, that was a hand up. That was actually a hand. Okay, eyes. My first experience working with Jenny was in the Zoting Recodification Working Group. And I would like to thank her for being an excellent mentor over the last couple of years. I've learned a lot from you. You have done a lot for this town. And I wish you well in in your new position. Thanks, Steve. Okay. Well, I think I've known you for the longest, Jenny. And I really appreciate the work you've done to Tarlington. You always had the best in mind for them. And I really appreciate the fact that, you know, how you overcome some of these hurdles that came along the ways. You know, and how you stuck through it. I gave you a lot of credit for what you've done and what you had to endure. And really proud of you and glad you're moving on into us. And wish the best of luck to you. Thank you. And I'll just add it's been wonderful, even in the time that I've been on the board, seeing how the department has grown under your leadership and the way that we're focused on sustainability. And then the addition of a transportation planner, the, you know, the more comprehensive way that we're looking to solve the very complex, the very complex, I won't call them issues, but set of circumstances that we have given the way that the town has grown over the years. And I think it to your point about a collaborative approach. I think that bringing the type of expertise, including Kelly and others who are currently in the department is, it has is really wonderful to have seen. And I think that that will certainly help during the transition to know what great, what a great talent, talent Kelly and so many of the other planners who are in the department are that you've pulled together. So thank you for leaving Arlington in such good hands by being thoughtful enough to create those such a such a well rounded group within the department. And Allie and all the others, I don't want to leave anyone out. They're all wonderful. Well, thank you. Thank you all. I appreciate all those all those best wishes and comments. I greatly have enjoyed working with you. Thank you. Jenny and Kelly is there. Let me just sorry. I normally have two screens. I have one right now while I'm traveling. So let me just move over. I think what I'd like the Jenny and I have had the opportunity and Kelly to talk a little bit about the transition. And I'd love to open it up to the board to see if you have any questions about items in progress or you know, things that you'd like to see us focus on. Obviously, the MBTA communities, rolling is something that we are going to need to, to really look at in probably during the time of the search for the new torture planning will be ongoing. And I know that we had a lot of a lot of goals from our goal setting meeting that, you know, in some ways are dependent on that ruling, as well as potentially some things from the housing production plan. So knowing that there's a lot in flux, I'd love to give some some time over to the board for any of your thoughts or questions on the transition or thoughts on things that you'd like us to see focus on during the time of the transition. And just to share that I think once the new planning director is in place, I think, you know, hopefully that'll be soon after Labor Day, if not before that that's when I was thinking we could schedule our next retreat, but love to open it up and can maybe we can start with you on some of your thoughts or questions that you might have for Kelly and Jenny. Jenny. Well, I think Kelly and Jenny left less than a real good strong shape here. The only thing I might want to follow up on is at one time, I think it was maybe during the middle of the pandemic or the beginning of the pandemic, we had started this 3D model sketch up along Mass Ave and Broadway that's sort of been put aside for a while. I like to maybe resumed maybe a little bit of that more to it would help maybe dispel some of the myths about what we're trying to do or make people more understanding what we're trying to do. As far as some of these zoning changes we may be looking at and we use that as a tool. I think I would like to maybe pick that up a bit more. But I do understand why we sort of it's been a rough time with the pandemic at all and all these issues coming up. But you know, that's something I wouldn't mind picking up on. And I think we started at our last tree talking about more attention toward the industrial zone and the business zone and how we can do more mixed use. I like to see how we can focus a little bit more on that. A lot of that has been done on housing. I think rightly so because the majority of Arlington is there. But I'd like to be focused to see what we can do about maybe building that up a little bit more. That's my tenure for now. Great. Thanks, Ken. Jean, any thoughts, questions for Jenny or Kelly on the transition or your hopes for focus for the board during the transition? Just a few things and maybe in a different place than everyone else on this. I would hope that the new planning director will be chosen after the new town manager is chosen so that the new town manager has a role in choosing a planning director. I would be concerned if we had a new planning director in place. And then we got a new town manager and it turned out they were not particularly sympathical in ways. So I don't know what the town's plan is for that. But that would be my recommendation. It might mean that we would not have a planning director for a little bit longer depending on how long it takes to get a new town manager. But in terms of transition, I think that would be a better way to go than choosing a new planning director just as the town manager is leaving or has left. So I have a couple other things, but I'll stop and see if people want to comment on that. Sure, Jenny. I know that you've shared with me the timing which perhaps you could share with Gene what the town's current timing is slated to be. Or the director. Yeah. I mean, it's posted right now. And I mean, typically, it takes sometimes like three, four months for hiring. But that doesn't necessarily mean it will dovetail with the town manager posting, which is not up yet, of course, because that's going through a different executive recruitment process and hiring process. I don't know what the intention would be of whether or not they'll wait to hire the town manager before they would hire the director. But I think that the director, there will be applicants to review and people to interview likely before the town manager is the new town managers on board. So there will be a deputy town manager serving in the acting role. And that might be the person who would participate in this hiring process, as well as other people, including, you know, probably Rachel from the board and others in the community the same way they conducted the last interview, a pretty rigorous interview process for hiring the next director. Does that help, Rachel? I don't have any other answers right now. I mean, I can give the feedback to the human resources department. I don't know what the sense of the board is. I think it's the sense of the board is that it makes sense to wait until a new town manager is in place before the new planning director is chosen. And maybe no one on the board thinks that other than me. But if we do, then I think we should inform the select board that the sense of this board is that it's important to have a new town manager in place and that person play a role in selecting the new planning director. That's why I'm interested in what other members of the board have to say about that. Kim, go ahead. I would agree with Eugene. I think Jenny and Adam is a good example of what you're saying. I think they have a good alignment and work well together. And I think we should be a little more patient. I'm sure Kelly can handle some very comfortable in her feeling the big shoes that Jenny here. But we can wait a little bit longer because, you know, I don't think rushing solves anything. So I agree with you, Gene. It's a good point you bring up. So I'll say that I don't disagree, Kim and Gene, that that would certainly be ideal. I also see the list of in-process work that we have and knowing that Kelly will be doing not only her job, but also taking over. I mean, in moving into the interim director role, my understanding is that there's a lot that's going to be falling on Kelly's plate, including what she's already doing and what she's going to be covering while Jenny is out. So I want to be mindful of the pull-on on Kelly's time as well. And I don't know what the timeline for the time manager selection process is. So that's something that I think we can find out. You know, I'd be happy to reach out to the select board and find out what their current thinking is on timing. We can see how closely that does not align. And if it's significantly out of alignment, then I think for me that would skew my preference towards trying to fill this position ahead of the time manager position so that we can continue moving forward with all of the things that we need to as a town. But if it's closely aligned, then perhaps ensuring that the time manager selection is complete first would make a certain amount of sense. But unless we know what that projected timing is, I think it's hard to weigh in personally. Steve, your thoughts? I agree with you, Madam Chair. I mean, I think the town, my impression is that the town manager and the planning director are probably two positions that will have to work together and collaborate quite a bit. That seemed to work fairly well with Ms. Rated and Mr. Chaptilane. But I think the schedule, the realities of scheduling and timelines also do play a role. Thanks. Melissa, any thoughts on timing since Jean has put that question to the board? Not really. I mean, I think conceptually I disagree with the thinking on what Steve and you said, Rachel, I mean alignment with kind of the town manager in this case. It sets the tone, you know, the person and their kind of priorities. So it's helpful to have some alignment. But that said, you know, I've seen many operations that kind of have done it differently and there still can be success. So I think finding the right candidate will be important going forward. That's how they're doing it. So Jean, what I can do is I'm happy to follow up with the select board chair and see if I can get more information on the timing and report back on the timing for the time manager search. Yeah, the only thing that I would add to what's been said is I would think it's more important to slow down some of the things that can be slowed down. So if there is alignment between the hiring rather than going ahead on some projects that could wait. Producer Jenny? I was just trying to check on the sort of timeline piece. So the board, you know, they voted to name Sandy Pooler as the town manager once Adam Chapter Lane leaves as town manager. And the timeline for a permanent replacement has not been determined just yet for the town manager. So based on timing alone, the new DPCD director would definitely not be hired in that immediate timeline that we're talking about. That's likely impossible. But Sandy would be the person working to hire my successor. That is the current plan of action. Great, thanks Jenny. So we can certainly, like I mentioned, I'm happy to follow up with Sandy and with the select board and just trying to get a little bit more clarity around their their thoughts for for timing. So the second item I wanted to bring up was the MBTA communities, housing choices. I think, I don't know what the final guidelines would be. I thought the draft guidelines were probably ultraviries the law itself and were subject to an interesting and maybe successful legal challenge. So I would want us, depending what the final guidelines look like when they come out, to take a look at that and maybe have an executive session with town council to discuss and get his take on whether they are challenging, especially if we don't like them in any way or if it looks like they're going to be challenged in court by some other places. So I'm not saying we should end up going to court because we don't know what they're going to look like. We don't know what town council will think and the pros and cons. But I do think we should leave that as an option to consider when the guidelines are final and come out. Otherwise we'll see what they say and decide what we're going to do about implementations if we decide that they're not going to be challenged. Sure. So I think that the timing, Jenny and Kelly, correct me if I'm wrong, for those would be, the expectation is that those would be released towards the end of the summer, July, August. Probably more like August, September. August, September. And then I'm sure that Kelly and her colleagues will need a little time to parse through that and then make a presentation to the board as to the initial interpretation. And I think at that time, Jean, that would be a great, great moment for us to then decide whether or not we could even plan following that a discussion with Town Council following the presentation to explore some of the questions around any potential for legal challenges that he sees or has heard of from other communities. Well, maybe we should ask Town Council now what the filing deadline would be. Because it may be pretty quick after the guidelines come out to file to challenge. I'm not sure. I haven't researched it. I'm not trying to practice law about this. But if we wait, it may be too late. It might be a 30 day window. I don't know. So I don't know that that would come out until after their, Kelly or Jenny, do you know that? I'm sure that would be identified when they come out. They're not going to say in the guidelines. We would have to ask Town Council maybe ask them now. If there were going to be a challenge to the guidelines, what is our filing deadline? And if so, what would that be after the guidelines come out? Okay, it's a little bit confusing to me because they're technically not regulations. If they were regulations, you'd look at a certain chapter of the mass general laws to see what the deadline is. But they're not regulations. They're guidelines. And I'm not sure they fall into the same category in terms of timing to file. So I think it would be helpful to get Town Councils take on how long did we have after they come out if the town chose to file litigation about them. Sure, we can certainly find that out. We haven't talked about obviously going down any path like that based on the preliminary, but we can certainly have all the information at our hands before they come out. Yeah, we should know that. Thank you. Okay. Steve, any questions for Jenny and Kelly regarding the transition? No questions at this time, but in terms of things that we might want to consider over the next or during the transition period, I think the MBTA community requirements are definitely among them. I would hope that we could have that once we know what the final guidance is that we might be able to sit down with the select board and get their opinion on it as they're the sort of elected political body in town. The other thing I was hoping we would have time to do during the summer and maybe it just has to wait, but I was hoping that we could invite the Arlington Chamber of Commerce to just talk about business and what would benefit the business community in Arlington. Thank you, Steve. We did have that on our agenda and Kelly, is that some hope? Go ahead, Jenny, sorry. Yeah, I did follow up on that with Beth Locke. So I can, I just made a note that it was something to pick up after a town meeting when you first asked me about it, Steve, which was maybe a month ago or something. So it's definitely on her radar, but you would just have to, you know, through Allie, probably follow up. We can do whatever you're ready, that is. Yeah, I think what we can do, again, following Tom meeting is Kelly, perhaps we can look at our summer agenda and find a good meeting date to see if Beth is able to join us if that works for you. Absolutely. Great. All right, Melissa, any questions about the transition or items that you'd like us to ensure that we're focusing on in the interim period before the new director is selected? Yeah, no specific questions. Just wanted, you know, echo everyone's, you know, congratulations to those bitters sweet to see, you know, someone leave. And I know Jenny, I haven't been on the board that long, but it's been great to work with you and, you know, I just see your impact over the years here in Arlington and really appreciate all your work. I think you've set up, you know, your success or well with the work you were able to accomplish and, you know, the plans. So thank you. And then Kelly, thank you for taking the interim step. So I at this point, I mean, I think Steve, you know, I don't know if I heard that you had asked about the chamber coming to our board, but I think that's a great idea in terms of just looking at, you know, the business community and really trying to seek out, you know, what would make a difference for them. And maybe Allie could be part of that if she's available. It'd be nice to have that discussion. Thank you, Melissa. Great. Any other questions or thoughts on the transition before we move to the NASFORG screen application letter? Jenny, go ahead. Just one follow up item, what can raised about the 3D model, the SketchUp model? I mean, I think possibly that will come in handy when you do the design standards. You know, I didn't, we didn't give it a little quick update, but town meeting actually did vote to approve the appropriation for design standards. The commercial, like the update, well, really the new design standards. So that that could be something that you use alongside that, you know, that other design process. So it definitely was a great, I think, starting point and with all of Kelly's work, of course, it'll be a great place to kind of expand upon. But I do think that the two are related. And then the other thing I was going to say is it's totally reasonable to try to figure out a way to scale back, you know, for some interim period of time during, you know, the upcoming transition, but I will absolutely leave that to Kelly and others to figure out what they want to change or scale back. And then they'll need to communicate that to the appropriate funders or committees and boards and such we work with because we, you know, the work in the department is tied to many other things. It's a it's a very big and we coexist with many, many people in our network. So we can't just immediately change a scope or a schedule or the work product and outline when we're in the middle of it. So we'll have to figure out how to adjust, but I will leave that to Kelly and work with her as I can in the next couple of weeks to make those considerations. Great. Thank you, Jenny. And you also brought up a good point in terms of an update from from town meeting. So for those of you who haven't been on town meeting, we have not yet gotten to the zoning warrant articles. Hoping to hoping to by Wednesday evening. So we will certainly continue to give updates as those are heard. There were, you know, have my spreadsheet right in front of me, but I think that there were only three that were approved through the consent agenda. So the rest will be heard. I tell you. All right. Any questions on that update? Just a quick Rachel that three at special town meeting were approved. Thank you very much for the clarification. Jean, yes, all of the three articles in special town meeting were approved. Thank you. Okay, so let's go ahead and move to agenda item number two, which is the mass works grant application letter of support and Jenny will turn it back over to you. Thanks, Rachel. So this is we are in the midst of putting together an application for funding that would support the Mass Ave Appleton corridor project. It's basically a safety and corridor update that includes the, you know, streetscape, sidewalks, crosswalks, probably new traffic lights and other sorts of facilities in the area that goes between this is all along Mass Ave, but from about Quinn Road to Richardson. So it's a pretty big area and it would accommodate three different developments that are happening in that immediate area. Some are in progress and some are planned or known. So the ones in progress include for the Myrack Development, as it's called, 1165 are Mass Ave, which is a 40B comprehensive permit Kelly's bringing up hopefully a map addresses and such, you know, best to look at a map when speaking of places. So 1165 are under construction now. I mean, well, it started construction. And then this board permitted a hotel and restaurant that is at the corner of Mass Ave and Clark. And I am looking at an update on that project from the owner of the property in the next few days. So I'll get a sense of where that stands. But it is, of course, still in the pipeline, technically. And then the last one is at the, but this is a very, this property owner, the church owns a lot of parcels. Pretty much everything in this whole area is for the most part owned by the church, except for one small amount of that parcel closest to Acton Street, which is owned by the town. And they're in the process of seeking developers for one or two of the parcels. One of them is currently a former rectory at the corner of, I think it's Appleton and Appleton, right? Appleton and Appleton. And the other one is at the corner of Appleton and Acton, which is a portion of a very large driveway, a parking lot, rather. And into an area, right, right adjacent to that. So that's, that is, we're aware of it. It's in progress. And with these developments, it does position the town to be able to request funds for a mass works grant, which would basically enable us to address a lot of safety concerns that we've tried to temporarily address through various temporary sort of materials and, you know, I would say programs and initiatives, like having the police temporarily be out there certain times a day, changing some of the lighting, adding some signage, creating sort of a temporary lane for bike passage, safer bike passage, but there's things that we want to do permanently, as well as additional community engagement and outreach. And the only way to do that is through applying for these funds. We do have some funds through the town that have supported us to be able to hire a firm called Stantec, who is helping us with not just this corridor project, but also a smaller project related to Chestnut Street. Both of these intersections and areas have had, unfortunately, deaths occur as a result of cars killing individuals either in a crosswalk or on a bicycle. So there's real safety concerns associated with them. And then also just other enhancements that could be made to accommodate safer passage for all. So with that in mind, while we have some funds, we need funds to get us through sort of this both sort of easement process and then process that follows the design, the 100% design that we anticipate completing to get to construction. And we would apply for mass works for construction funds eventually, but this grant is just to get us to that middle part. It's, I don't have the exact amount right in front of me actually, but we're looking for this board support in order to just apply for the grant. And in the spirit of a good, you know, good planning process, something that aligns with Connect Arlington, our master plan goals. We thought that it would be best to ask you if you'd be willing to sign on to something like that. We can share a template letter through Kelly. And, you know, we're glad to answer any questions if you have them. There's, there is also a committee of people who are part of this Mass Ave. Appleton project. I think they're actually having meeting tomorrow night. Come to think of it. So if you're interested in engaging more in this project, you know, not just as a board member, but because maybe you live in the area, then I would encourage you to also drop by that meeting or others in the future. That with it. Thanks, Rachel. Thank you, Jenny. So I'll take questions for Jenny and Kelly from the board, starting with Ken. No, I have no questions for Kelly or Jenny, but I do support this and I would encourage that we follow through on this. That intersection is really nasty, especially in the afternoon when the lights are setting and you can't see up that hill. I think some of the temporary measures help, but I think we should put a permanent a permanent design to that. So I'm supporter of this whole thing. Great. Thank you, Ken. Jean. I agree with everything Ken said. Can you tell us how much the grant application will be for and what percentage of project cost that would be? Looks like Jenny and Kelly are looking for that. I know. Well, I brought up the template letter and then I don't see the number in the one that I have up in front of me right now, Kelly. The amount is roughly 140,000. I don't have the precise number because we're still working with SCAN Tech on estimating that. But we're looking at roughly 140,000 dollars, but then this would lead into another MassWorks grant application in the future for actual construction funding, which would be much more substantial. So the 140,000 is just from MassWorks to do the planning? It's for MassWorks to help fund the planning and the basically 25% through 100% design and then the permitting and any easements and sort of the interim period as we head into. We're trying to look at the overall timeline and make sure that we have the funding now so that when we get to the point where we would also need to apply for construction funding, which is going to be much more substantial, will be fully set up to apply for that funding and know how much funding we're looking to receive at that point. So we kind of need to pursue the grant now for the design portion of it and then we'll also pursue the grant and the future for the actual construction fund which is going to be much more substantial. So you could almost estimate that the design portion of it is going to be roughly 10% of the overall construction cost. And the MassWorks one is one that will be eligible for if we comply with whatever the MBTA communities grant turns out to be? Yes, not a meet. Well, not a meeting. Not now, but maybe not. And not necessarily next year, either, because by the end of this year, you have to have an action plan for how you're going to comply. And then it's by the end of next year, you're looking at full compliance. So the what Kelly was just talking about was that second round of money. And I think I want to put words in your mouth now, Kelly, but was that next year? Yes. So we need to I'm thinking the timeline is December of 2023 is having the action plan in place. Now I'm getting all my dates confused. Sorry. It's right now in the draft guidelines. And so again, these are all draft guidelines. We don't have the final guidelines, so we don't know the final timelines. In the original draft guidelines, the regulations or the vote in order to change the zoning to comply with MBTA communities had to be by December of 2023. We don't know if that's going to remain the play remain the same when they issued the final guidelines. And so right now we just want to make sure that we're moving ahead so that no matter what the draft whether the final guidelines are the same as the draft guidelines, they're different. We're set up to continue to move forward. And if compliance, you know, we don't know again what these final guidelines are going to say, but we don't want to delay the process when we actually know that we need the improvements. Good. Thanks. I don't want to take up any more time. Yes. I think we're ready at 7.45. So thank you. Yeah, I'm supportive of this. Thanks, Gene. Steve, any questions or comments? No, I am supportive of the effort. I think that making roadway improvements to high crash intersections, particularly ones where fatalities have occurred, it should be an important priority. I've also been hit in the intersection of Mass Ave and Appleton while riding a bicycle. So yeah, I would like to see see that intersection improved. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. Melissa. 100% support moving this forward. Just one question. In terms of our team, is our team looking at also some of the federal grant programs that I've heard about, maybe Safe Streets for All or Reconnecting Communities? Gene? Yeah, well, yes. In short, yes. We've been looking at all opportunities, including earmarks and other leveraging additional ARPA funds from the state. There's a bunch of shared streets funding that we actually we just learned today that we're going to be receiving for other projects. So I think, yeah, I mean, there's so many, there's so many different funding sources right now and more to come as those programs are developed and launched. So certainly this project, once it's fully planned and ready to go and shut, you know, the shovel ready and close, I think it will be competitive for those other funding sources as well. It's a good point, Melissa. Great, I'm also supportive. The only question I have is around kind of the scope and maybe this is something that I can, you know, find out more about on Tuesday. But I know that there has been to talk around looking at the intersection with Appleton and also Park and Paul Revere and Park, which are also challenging intersections. And since that's one kind of although the massive section is one quarter, it all is contributed from what happens up at the top of the hill. So I wasn't sure if that was also in this scope for this particular project or if it was only specific to Mass App. It's something that is still under review by TAC, the Transportation Advisory Committee, what you're talking about. And, you know, I think that we've asked Stantec to potentially look at that intersection and at least review some designs that had been developed by our town engineer. But I think that it will be handled more directly by TAC and not necessarily through this process. Although there is sort of a relationship between that intersection and this one, I don't think it's going to go that far, you know, the actual improvements. But it's certainly something that you can suggest through, you know, the process is still is very open and something to be considered. Great. Thanks, Jenny. And just in terms of the ask, would you like an official vote of support from the from the board? But that's what I was thinking. And then we could provide maybe a draft letter. We can circulate it. And if you want to, you know, individually provide any edits or feedback, we can sort of shape it up. And we'll have it signed, perhaps by Rachel. If that works. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's good for me. Are there any questions about the process before I look for a motion of support for the MassWorks grant letter related to the Mass and Appleton streetscape? All right. Is there someone who would like to make that motion? I moved to motion that. Okay. And again, that's the ARB support of the MassWorks grant letter at the Mass Avenue and Appleton street streetscape. So I second that. Thanks. We'll take a vote. Ken. Yes. Jean. Yes. Melissa. Yes. Steve. Yes. And I'm the yes as well. So we will follow up then with once we have that letter drafted, see if there are any comments. And then I'm happy to sign on behalf of the board. All right. As we're at 751, is there are there any other questions before we take a motion to adjourn? We will be adjourning to town meeting, correct? Yes. We'll be adjourning to town meeting. Yes. So is there a motion? But if there's no questions, is there a motion to adjourn to town meeting? A motion to adjourn to town meeting. Great. Is there a second? I'll second that. We'll take a vote. Ken. Yes. Jean. Yes. Steve. Yes. Melissa. Yes. And I'm the yes as well. Thank you so much, Jenny. Thanks, this is your last ARB meeting. We've appreciated everything you've done. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. It's a great night. I hope to see you again. Absolutely. Have a good night. Good night. Good night.