 Yeah, everyone. Let's just wait a couple of minutes Yeah, it seems like I think you're gonna be having all the gender items today Let's just give a couple of minutes Good morning. You've been there. Hey Brandon. Good morning. All right. Let's wait a couple more minutes Probably start in another two minutes since Zoom usually gives issues I put in the link to the meeting doc in the chat so if you could put in your attendance in the meeting notes and also It'd be great if we can have one or two scribes To kind of take a few notes For those that just joined we're just waiting a couple more minutes for people to check out. Thanks Ray for volunteering to scribe All right. I think we have quite a good number of people Let's get started so Quick announcement before we jump into the agenda There's KubeCon going on next week So we won't be having this meeting next week. So that would be canceled Other than that also that is the currently the security date that's going to be going on on Monday Emily will be talking about that a bit more in detail later. So I'll leave it to her. They don't So let's go through check-ins. Let's see people are checking in It looks like we don't have any updates Outside the agenda items So I guess we can skip right in I'm sorry. I think I there's a Oh, sorry, I just I'm a bit late. So I haven't checked the agenda, but there's The agenda today is going to be around Cognitive security there. Okay. There was just one thing I had an update. That's all. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Justin go ahead then Just the Open policy agents are applying for graduation and so they need a security review, so there is a doc on a Draft doc, but we need to go security needs to go through and Review So review review opera. I know who several people have started looking at it We've assessed it twice You know at this point I Think Justin the only thing it needs is sort of chair sign-off Doesn't need a write-up. I Wasn't I was the only thing I think there was it Justin did I think Justin did a draft write-up Which was roughly taken from The reviews but actually there's been a bunch of updates since then because they implemented a bunch of the stuff that we asked for So I thought I suggested That they should update it with what had Changed since then rather than because it look I had this problem in a previous one where it just had a list of recommendations put in the dark, but actually The more interesting thing was which ones hadn't hadn't been implemented from the TSE point of view and so some of some of the important things we recommended they have implemented which I think is important and so I think we should kind of sign off on a Version of what's now rather than what's then and say Because it's kind of it's it's kind of stronger if they have implemented our recommendations rather than listing what they were six months ago Justin did you want to jump in campus? I Don't have a problem with that. I was trying to make the process Not not be honoris for anybody involved and they did provide information along those those lines so I did ask the reviewers especially but really anybody to take a look and see You know what they thought about those changes But when it came time to actually writing the document, I I did mostly basically just copy and paste from our Request before Mostly because I I didn't want to have to go through an extended process to get a new text approved Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's fine. I suggested that they should just maybe add notes about what had been Implemented directly there or something like that and I I saw that was in doc updates earlier, which I haven't a chance to check but I Think that's a great suggestion. I'd be very happy for the comment on those those points Which they kind of have already done in their document. So it's I think that'd be that would be great And just a quick update that we've updated the doc with the recommendations that were from last year and what we actually done To resolve some of the recommendations. So I think the docs been updated with those details as well Excellent. Good. Good. That's that sounds great. Then I think then in that case Yeah, then we probably just can go to chair sign off then great I'll just take a chair another look at it and survive any more comments then since it's been updated, but Just Justin if you could do that as well and then I'll Let's look later today Yeah, I I have I approve whatever I need to do to to do that. I yeah, I wrote that thing. So I Approve it. Thank you. Great. All right. Thanks, Justin Let's see. I think we don't have anything else for check-ins Do we have anyone from policy book group or then this? Big data working group for any updates. Oh, I did. Sorry, I'm Jump in the middle. I did have a something that I wanted to bring up, but I Don't know what yeah on with a policy working group or I mean go for as I read just okay, so In total is giving for incubation and I Know that the six six security made the recommendation for incubation earlier on There was a discussion on slack saying yes, this is still the recommendation something I just wanted to To double check is is there any way or like any requirement for the sake to make a public Like statement like this somewhere else more official maybe Getting another like or like just reviewing the deck of the original recommendation or how can we Get more of it like this is the stance that everybody can verify other than like reading the six security slack Do you have a due diligence stock yet Santiago? it is It is being worked with with Michelle. I I could share it. I Don't know. Maybe after my meeting with her tomorrow Would that be what you guys would want like yeah That's that's so far as how we've you know expressed that You know we have In total in our read me as you know project of interest to us So we capture that kind of in in our in our documentation But you know as far as like a position statement to you know the rest of the CNCF the way that we've done that with You know now with opa notary Yeah, another stuff is through that do jills in stock in it that We will formally sign off on and and say that we recommend. Oh perfect Okay, then I will just confirm with Michelle and then I'll send it your way Should I post it on the slack or should I send it to yeah drop it into six security on slack and and ping me Okay, thank you. Thanks Cool Let's see Robert anything from policy site No, we didn't have a meeting this week. We have it every other week. So Progress report this week, but I'll come back next week Give us an update And Mark is anything from your site that notice here. All right, cool All right, let's jump at the what we had The items we had for the day. So I will pass this over now to Emily Everyone so as a reminder Brandon touched on it earlier, but Cod native con cube con is next week and its security is kicking off with a co-located virtual event on Monday, August 17th starting Pretty early for Eastern daylight time, but one for Amsterdam time Cod native security days next week I'm opening up with opening remarks should be short and sweet, but we do have a lot of really great presenters So if you haven't registered yet Go online. I believe registration is still open. I think it's $75 for the entire week and then an additional 20 for security day. So Lots of great talks hope to see you all online. And So that's what I have for security day The other thing that I have is the cloud native security Wait paper working group has been charging forward. We're making really good progress on Getting some content generated. I've been reviewing everybody's comments and everybody's input and so far everything is looking great I've recently updated the github issue. I believe it's 138 it's linked in the agenda with our new schedule just time-bounding when our When folks can expect to have certain things completed by or within so if you're interested And either joining the group Comments on the issue hit me up in the slack channel. We'll get you added Other than that everything is going really well cool And if there's anyone that's kind of Wants to jump into the white paper now. How should they kind of go about it? You if you're interested in joining the white paper group, you can comment on the issue and I monitor that for updates Or you can hit me up in the slack channel And I will get you added to the white paper channel as well as to the doc with the right permissions Just let me know either through the issue or through slack Cameron asked whether this is this of topics Maybe you can think the yeah, so the issue issue number 138 has a complete high-level outline of topics And if you're looking for more specific information, it's pretty much anything that has to do with the technology underlying cloud-native Deployment as well as the life cycle processes Associated with doing a cloud native deployment so everything from software supply chain security all the way through deployment monitoring maintenance and upgrades Kubernetes stack, what does that look like? There there's a lot of different things in there. So it's a if you're interested in any of those things or learning more Definitely recommend joining the group If you're not an expert in any of those fields, that's fine, too We're looking for people to help also review and just verify the content and make sure that it's making sense Making sure we're on target with our audience and with the scope of the paper. I Saw a couple of comments in chat. I'll be reaching out to everybody We're just sending the links All right, cool. Is there it's probably in the in the dirt into notes here. Is there a link for Paying the 75 bucks and getting in the conference. I am looking for it now I'll have to post it in the chat great Or you can put it in the notes for today. I can look there. Thanks. Yeah, I'm gonna put in this This is thing that I found which is like a register now And I mean it basically brings you back to the coupon registration, but through the registration process I think they will Yeah I'll post it in the meeting notes as well. Okay, I think that's all we had for the agenda this week so I'll just add my pitch again for volunteers who you may want to help with the cloud custodian assessment Still looking for additional help on that project Yeah, and I suspect that we will I'm expecting us to have a lot of new faces probably after keep calm so we could track in this Thanks for your help there That was Robert asking for help, right? So I put a note in the chat. This is underwood. I'd be interested in trying to Soon on some of this Fantastic, I'll reach out on slack super. Thanks. All right. Cool Anything else if not, we'll call this meeting and then we'll see everyone at coupon. I'll see you Um in two weeks. We had we also have a security session that's being done by JJ and I think it was JJ and Sarah Um, I'm doing the security session at coupon. So drop by if you can as well Cool All right. See everyone soon Thanks, Brandon. Thanks Brandon And thanks very so much for for subscribing for us. 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