 Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy. You see, oh, and I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Mako. What's going on? None of them are gone. Hey, man. So, man, today is a special day. Every day is a special day, but not like today. Now I don't play. Listen, man, we got a guy here today, man. I've been listening to his music ever since he sent it to me and I've been blown away by it to be honest with you, man. I've had a lot of guests on here and I say a lot. There's been a few few on here been about three months now that we've been solid and I just want to say, man, that this guy, man, blowed my mind, man. I ain't gonna lie to you, man. It felt it felt so good, bro, man. Check it out, man. Assholes and gold is in the building. Yes, he is. Man, what's going on? I'm happy to be here, man. Boy, I'm so glad to get you here. You don't even know, nigga. I come pick you up. You all yet do say, listen, man, it ain't about to be a Uber or none of that. You hear me? Yeah. I'm your Uber. Nigga, I came got you. You said, eat, man. I'm over here at such and such. I'm like, okay, I'm on my way. I'm gonna pop the paces. Nigga, I'm coming to get you. Yeah, make it happen. So how you been doing, man? I've been good, man. Bless, bless, man. We making it past this little freeze and the end of this epidemic. Hopefully, hopefully. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully. Yeah, man. I've been surviving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so the thing I like about you, man, is your style or your music, man, the way your cadence is, the way you change it up. It's a lot of stuff you're doing that I ain't never really seen done. I tried to compare you to Andre 3000, but then you went to singing on me. And it sounds something like I never heard before, bro. Went on sleep. Yeah, man. Oh, man, baby. He might be here to sing his part. What? Yeah. Man, are you crazy? Give me a little bit of the- Man, he was just doing it earlier. We're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to it. He was just doing it earlier. You was over- That's why I was mad, because you was over there. And I'm frustrated trying to get you over here to get these cameras on, because the nigga was in there getting to it. And he sounded good. Sound good. You got to know the music, man. And music is just a vibe, man. It's so- I'm a hurt single, man. Like, I don't really necessarily be singing. I just be kind of feeling I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I noticed that. I know it's a vibe. It ain't like he just felt it. Oh, no, it ain't like that. Yeah. He just gonna vibe out with you. Yeah. And I know, see, I'm rocking with it. I'm loving it. Yeah. Yeah, man. So the thing I say about you, man, is I was trying to figure out. I'm trying to- Because you know, people ain't gonna say it, but we try to figure out what make this person tick on who inspired this person to be. And I couldn't come up with nothing, bro. Who inspires you, bro? So, honestly, initially when I got off into music, nobody did. Yeah. I can tell you, because it's like nothing I ever heard before. Right on. Being real, and that's a compliment. Yeah. Over time, though, I grew admiration for certain artists though. Okay. Like, UNJAC 3000, of course. Yeah. Yeah. PMC. Boy, don't say that. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big. Listen, stop right there, nigga. I'm for the put you out. Hey, you can't be on- You know how I do about Pimp. Yeah, he loves Pimp. I'm a straight Pimp fan, nigga. And love the nigga and miss the nigga and didn't get to meet the nigga. Boy, that pissed me off. Bam. Yeah. I heard- I met Bunn a few times because I'm in the city and I'm all around and I'm in Vegas, well. I never got to meet the Pimp and I love that dude, bro. Like, and that's a good, I guess God worked it out that way. So Pimp was one. Let's go. Let's keep going. Yo, Pimp, Big Crit. Big Crit, I- I love Big Crit too, man, because he represents something else, man. He from Mississippi. I might get that boy on the show, man. Shout out Big Crit. Like, Crit is that artist that's like, you got to respect what you hear from him. A nigga go with it, come with it. He's too talented, you know what I'm saying? All of his music is cold, man. It's cold. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He that one artist, because like, I don't listen to music, but I've had periods of time in my life where I have, you know, ride around to a couple of CDs. Big Crit was one of those artists. Big Crit. I ride around to some Crit, man. That's so crazy. You do music, but you say you don't listen to music. I don't. That's how I feel like I keep my originality. I like that too. That's good. But I'm not getting nobody else. You won't get lost in the sauce. What word is your style? Because the first thing I saw when we looked you up, I love your fashion. I love your style. It's different. Thank you. And that's the thing. Yeah, yeah. You get friends. That's where, to me, it does remind me of Andre 3000 because he'll put some stuff together. You're like, first you're like, we're like, huh, okay, I see it. But I love that. So where did you get that style from? Were you always like that even from a kid? Nah. So they actually go back into like me not listening to music. It's the same way with like fashion and style as well. You know what I'm saying? I uh, whenever I first in my adolescence start getting into fashion and music and stuff like that. How old were you like 13? Around that age, you know, 13, 14, when I started even taking interest in stuff outside of my bedroom. Like, you know what I'm saying? As a kid, I was being a kid more so than. I get it. Then, uh, maybe the average life of somebody, uh, urban adolescent, you know what I'm saying? I didn't really do a lot of outside activities. I ain't play basketball and football or go to the park or we ain't chill outside and shoot mobiles. Whatever kids did, I didn't do, you know, I was, I was real. Uh, I grew up idle, you know, to myself. I ain't understand a lot about what other people did cause I wasn't into that, those types of things. Yeah, I had, uh, I'm the baby though. Okay. So, I wasn't. Yeah, your father and mother in your life? My mother, yes. So you were raised by a single mom? Yeah. And my mom worked hard, man. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to, what's your mom name, man? Karen. Karen. Shout out to Karen, man. Yeah. Boy, you got some special hero. That's all I could say, man. Oh, she know it. She did a good job with this one. She know what she did. She know what she did. I love the way how he said, but you being a baby boy, I bet you, you the spoiled one. It ain't necessarily happening like that as far as me being just spoiled, you know, uh, I would say I got more of the attention, you know, just being the youngest cause all of my, uh, I have one brother and two sisters. Okay. And our age differences. Okay. My closest sister is like five or six years older than me. So they looking out? Yeah. Good looking out. But, uh, I just definitely love what you do, man. Like I said, the sound was crazy. And, you know, when I first, I tell you about one that really got to tell me, you know, uh, is it burn, burn for me? Yeah. Let me, let me say something, man. When I heard, when I seen, I was faced with the eat this little young nigga live, this nigga got on this mic with what the hell wrong with this boy? Yeah. Wait a minute. I'll just tell you, but when I heard it, I said, ooh, that young nigga switching it up, you know, it's a battle on these songs. You held it like eight, like you've been there forever. And that's what, that's what I love. Like, like this dude seemed like he belonged, right? Just worry yet. And Grammy Award went in. Yeah. I'm talking about a go there, bro. Yeah. Can scale up. That's the way I see it, bro. And that's why when I, when I heard you, I'm like, cause I always felt like they didn't give a scar face. It's just do anyway. Oh, they didn't. So I felt that. So when I, when I, when you see me say things, it's, it's contrary more to what the masses even do because I listen to the music. I don't care nothing about what everybody, and you know how I am. I don't care if another nigga could never see what I could see anyway, cause he ain't got my ears. You know what I'm talking about? See, look, they go back into the fashion thing with her. Like, I, I like what I like. You know what I'm saying? I never had influence at that age. That's when you mostly influenced like 13, 15, you know what I'm saying? I didn't have a lot of friends to give me influence or to rub off on me. So a lot of my desires and my wants was of my own intention. People always say you must get it from somewhere. Like whether your mom, the way how she dressed, somebody may not specifically told you, but because of what you see and be like, Oh, I like that. You know what I mean? I've seen, I've seen a lot of things. And out of those things I've seen, I like this, that and the other. Oh really? It was just like, yeah. So I don't have no style of dressing. I don't have no style of music. I don't have no, no category to be put in. You know what I'm saying? I'm widespread. I'd like to be that type of artist. And you are that type of artist? Oh yeah. For sure. Country blues, hip hop, pray gay. Whatever. Gospel. All around. All around. Do you have any kids? I have two. Two kids. Let me ask you a question because I know when I was reading up on you, how you got your name. Say you're very brutally honest. The way how you say things and some people can misconstrude that in a way where they call you that name. I get you. Right. And that's the reason why you came up with that name. Are any of the kids like that? Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't ask it in either. They do that on purpose. Purpose. They dad. Look at the example they got. They got to look at. But a funny thing, when you are like that to all the people, you don't see it. But then when you have a child who is like that, sometimes people are like, you know what I mean? Like you can't take it when your kids are like that. My daughter like me, so I get it. So how you feel? My daughter give me head. That's just like you. My daughter give me head. Yeah. That's just like you. My son 10, my daughter 5. You know, my son is, he my man, you know, he more personable. My daughter is more like, say I made some food not too long ago. Maybe like a month and a half ago. We eating and I asked my son. I'm like, you like it? He's like, yeah, it's good. That ain't nothing. I'm like, you like it baby? Now at first, when she first started eating, I heard her say she liked it. She was talking to her brother though. So a little time pass, I guess she had her feel. She didn't want no more. So I'm like, yeah, you don't like it baby? You like the food? She was like that. This food is trash. I was like, what? That's the way it be baby. Come on. I'm only going to get worse the older they get. I know. Fly the mouth. They don't mean it in a disrespectful way, but it's like we raise our kids to speak your mind. Don't let anybody tie you down, you know, speak it, but speak respectfully. But sometimes it can come across because they quick with their words. So it can come across in a certain way. Oh, she do it all the time. Let's get back to that scarf face bang with you and scarf face burn for me. What's up with that? How did y'all guys come up with that? How did you come up with that concept? And just tell us a little bit about how the whole process went. So in any situation where I'm creating, I never go into the room with an idea. Okay. You know what I'm saying? If I start with a blank canvas with everything, I don't even like to plan too far ahead of what I'm going to do. That's good. That's different. So when I go in the studio, I'm in whatever mood I'm in. So it's more so the energy come from the production. So it's like, play me a couple of beats. He might pay me 10 beats, I pick two or three. And then the one I like most, then I just kind of just sit there and vibe with it. And then I hear a cadence. I don't write music really. I listen to the beat like it's a person. And he'd be like, the beat be like, now go in there and say, then say, literally it flow out of me. You know what I'm saying? I got five songs on this project that I didn't write at all. Like I just kind of stood in front of the microphone and came up with a couple of boards, which is not freestyling, whatever camera. That's the one right here. I hate when people say, oh, check out this new freestyle. I just dropped you freestyling. There's rhythmic flow from your mind, your heart just coming out. I get it. Not punching in. Not punching in. Yeah. But yeah, that's pretty much how I create, man. That's what's up. I love it. Let me get the story though. I'm trying to get this car facing you burned for me. I seen the little video skit where y'all kind of went back and forth, talked a little bit. Yeah. But y'all did this together in the studio? Yeah, yeah. So my part, I actually recorded on my own. And then when I decided to put squadface on the record, then in the process of us seeing if it could happen or what not. OK. And he said he would. OK. So we just kind of got together. And we met up at a... I can never think of the name of this studio. Studio in Houston? It's a nice studio. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I can tell. It looked real good. Yeah, nice. It looked real good. The cameras were bright. Yeah. Whole vibe was right. My boy, Steve O. OK, OK. He the plug, man. Oh, really? Black card, Steve O. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat out in Houston. Yeah. He do management production. Man, shout out Black Card, Steve O. What's up, baby? Yeah, man. He low-keep half the reason for the season. Really? Yeah, man. Like when I first had... My first record that popped out, it was a song called Chili and Daboo. Yeah. He was the one that kind of tied together a couple of the strings I needed. That's what's up. In the beginning of my career. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He used to travel with me initially. Steve O. We was trying to take in flights everywhere. That's love. Everywhere I got on the plane, Steve O. was right there. That's love. That's love. That's my dog, man. Shout out, Steve. Shout out, Steve O, man. I didn't get him on the show. See, I'm working with... Not really. No, definitely. He's a model. He plugged me in. I'm looking at Brad Jordan, because we got a plug on him. Yeah. He already heard about the show. We already... Yeah. We knocking. Yeah. Hey, man, what's up? What's up? We knocking. So, I mean, I think it takes that, man. When you really want something, you got to go at it. And go at it with... Dogmatically go at it in a way to where you ain't going to take no for an answer. Oh, yeah. And that's the whole game. Just seeing the new vibe, loving the way that he being an older cat and you being a little younger than him. Because me and him, we kind of the same, run the same... I done rocked out with him a few times back in the day. But the thing is, he bridged that gap. You know what I mean? Because a lot of times it don't happen like that. And in conversation, he's told me, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we actually developed a friendship. Like, we ain't just get him on a song. No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He like what you're doing. And he tell me too much. He like, man, bro, you the one? No, no, he know. You the one? That's how you... I know. I heard him say it on the video. I'm like, yeah. That nigga ain't lying. Yeah. That nigga ain't lying. Shout out to face, man. Shout out to that boy, Brad. I'm a love. Jordan Scarface, man. We in Texas, baby. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? We Texas back. That's why I love about this platform, man. I'm from Texas, man. I love Texas. Yeah, he right Texas back. So, yeah, me too, man. I'm Texas the truest, man. Yeah, I got to have it every time. Every time the camera come on, nigga, y'all gonna feel us. That's the way I look at it, man. I'm saying Texas. So you say that whenever you're in the studio, it just flows. You don't ever write it down. Have you ever... I write. But I'm saying like I don't... Well, most of the time. But have you ever been to the studio, music comes on and nothing comes to you? Not nothing comes to me, because my mind is gonna work. Okay. But it's... I got a threshold like I'm trying to meet. So it's like, nah, this ain't it. Like, I'll record something that just might not be up to par to me. And I ain't never really just walked in and just drew a complete blank. And then I usually keep shitting the vote. You know what I'm saying? Always. I got stuff in my phone. You know what I'm saying? So if I get up in there and this ain't going right out, that ain't going right. I'm just gonna pull up something and put it down. So what are your requirements for your own music? Because just like you said, you have a threshold. Everybody hold themselves to a certain standard that I'm not gonna do less than this. This is what I'm gonna produce and produce at all times. My quality needs to be here. My vocals need to be here. What is that for you? It start off with you as an artist. When you get in the studio and that's something I think a lot of beginning artists don't necessarily understand. When you get in the studio, the engineer, the producer, the people who wrapped around the song can't make nothing more than what you've done. Like, you have to speak clearly into the microphone. You have to get your words out right. You might as well make it flow. You have to have your own cadences. You know what I'm saying? If you do this in a stage like that, you're on originality and then they can amplify on net. But if you go in there and do the minimal, yeah they can amplify on the minimal, but... It's not gonna be... It's not, yeah, you know what I'm saying? It starts with your performance. After that, then I need A1 engineering. I need the guy who's actually recording me to be knowledgeable so that it's not taking time away from my creativity at the mic. at the mic because. Do you research who you're gonna work with before you actually go work with them to make sure that they can offer you what you really need or you? Not really because I like to form new relationships, you know what I'm saying? And I don't mind teaching somebody something. Not necessarily teaching, teaching like as far as engineering, but what I want, you know what I'm saying? So you know a little bit about engineering as well? Yeah, I recorded half of the project myself. This project that I'm about to drop, it's called the H-Team, it's gonna be dropping on the 4th of next month. On the 4th of next month, definitely, definitely. I gotta write that down so I can, you know, at least shout you out when you drop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would appreciate that. That's what we do. What's the name of it? It's called the H-Team, the H-Team. Okay, and how'd you come up with that name? Houston Team. I know it, I know it, yeah, but I wanna hear, I wanna hear what made him go with that. He could have went a whole lot of different ways, man. So, somebody on my live talk about seeing Chilli and Daboo. But now, and what she asked me? How did you come up with that name? H-Team. Yeah, okay, yeah. H-Team. So the H-Team, of course, you know, it's a spin-off of that, you know. Okay, okay. So it's more of like a militarized presence of a project, you know. So all the artwork and stuff like that, it's like a secret files. And I'm planning to do some like videos called, you know what a honeypot, have I heard the term honeypot? No. It's like somebody in like military service that is like real pretty, but they're still a soldier. So it's like, they might send you on a mission to do something, but it's really to seduce somebody or something like that. So that's your vision for your video that you're gonna be doing? Yeah, that's what I'm gonna use for the promos. So just find a couple pretty women, you know, kind of have them doing stuff of certain little stuff to boost it up. Oh really, man? Yeah, but the project consists of Half of Houston, man. Like, I told you I really took it trialed on the project. Chuck it trialed, man, R.P. Chuck it trialed, man. That was something that really... I know it, yeah, you tatted up on that, didn't you? They fucked me up, man. Yeah, because I see you did that song with him called Register to Carry? Yeah, we actually did two or three records. He on this, the new project, yeah. On the record called The Bottom, featuring T Flue. Wow. Yeah. Happy that we got to get the video, you know what I'm saying? Would have loved to see him here, man. You know, it's just something. We lose so many of our young brothers, man. And it's like maybe good-spirited people, too. I mean, it's sad, bro. Like, I can go through just rapper after rapper that this stuff keep happening to. And it really be affected me because I gotta love five people. You know, that special, the younger generation, man. And that's who it's targeting the most. So a lot of people blame it on the music, bro. And I know it, what about that? Do you, what do you think? What do you think? Yeah, so my overall mission is to build my brand to be something that can change the minds of men, you know. So my label is called Fangang Records. Okay. It's like a vampire theme, kind of thing. Yeah, I've seen that. That kind of spilled from the type of men originally with the story of vampires that they were. Like, you know, honest, true, hold to their values. They said something, they meant something. Now, I even like older movies said in those times, period, just like old war movies and stuff like that, because people held true to what they said and what they did. And they frowned on things that the public shouldn't, if it was something that was widely spread in the evil. You know what I'm saying? But nowadays, evil is so tolerable. It's like the norm, you know what I'm saying? Somebody objectifying women and drugs, violence, whatever it is, it's like, that's what people are aspiring to be. Why would you aspire to be the wrong things? So growing up in my adolescence, that's kind of what kept me from having certain groups of friends and hanging with certain people doing certain things. Cause I was just like, this, it's not it. Like, you know what I'm saying? So whenever I started realizing people were still drawing to me, you know, even though I wasn't on a lot of that stuff, I started saying, well, why don't I use my influence to bring righteousness back? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. That's how it is. That's real. That's so crazy. But we were talking about that the other day that more musicians need to turn around the way how the young generation is going with influence and try to influence them in a positive way instead of trying to tell them to do things that are not really, you know, good for them. It's just, it's time. Right. The book I read says high time. It's really time. Like we gotta start doing something. I think that's something that we all have to do together. You know what I mean? I even kind of scold myself because initially coming into this process and my stardom and stuff, I felt like I needed to test both waters in a sense to draw people in. You know, just like, okay, well, let me do some real vocal sounding songs or some real club violently sounding song. But when they started catching wind, I got like almost disgusted with myself. Because I hear back, like, I was... That's deep. We was riding in a car. That's deep. Was that yesterday when I said that? Like I got three records. Now these are like some of the people, some of my fans like favorite records. Like, Ghetto, it's a song called Ghetto Baby. What was the other one? Wheels on the Bus. And... That's all that. It's the third one. But those are beautiful as well. And beautiful as well. Now these songs are good songs. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's clubby, you know what I'm saying? It's catchy. It's gonna bring it. It's gonna bring it. But I'm on there, just... You evolve and I know what it is. Sometime you grow, you're growing and people be expecting you to stay in the same place and it's not fair. You know what I mean? Because people develop more and more and as you grow, certain things you look back on and be like, ah, I did that. But I ain't there no more, you know? But at the end of the day, those are growing spurts. And to be honest with you, that's a part of who you are. That's your testimony. So that really helps people too because they can see the other part of you if they be honest with themselves. And sometimes you might lose some listeners, but then you will gain a lot more. That's right. As well, too, so we can't watch that. I think it's more that, like, he knows the impact of that song and what it does and what it says. And it's power in words. It's so much power in words is the way you articulate them. It makes it even more powerful. Let's just talk about that for a second. Certain people can say something, don't mean much. But when, yeah, asshole in gold say something, it's a whole different level. And that's the way you have to look at things. Everybody can say things, but they don't say it and have the impact that you're gonna have. Right on. And that's the game. And when you have a platform, you kind of gotta start looking at stuff like that. Like, I know, I don't really like saying other rappers' names and stuff. Yeah. I'm gonna say it this time, but what's his name? A$AP Rocky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, and Lil Wayne too, they both did something along the same level. They was asked by the media, you know, like, oh, what do you think about? I remember that. All the violence and the police violence and all that. And A$AP Rocky was like, I ain't, I forgot what he said, but he was like, I ain't worried about that. Like, it could be any more, didn't it? Yeah, then he ended up getting arrested in another country. And then, oh man, come on, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stand on what you said. Stand on that, like, I don't say anything. Keep that same energy. And Lil Wayne, he said, he was like... What did he do? What did he say? It was one of those words. Oh, it was like, he said, yeah, racism ain't real in his life, you know what I'm saying? Because he said something about the white guy picked him up when he got shot. I remember, I heard him. I heard him heard it loud and clear, but at the end of the day, those things that you say come back the way on you heavy because the people you know that you represent, you know where you came from. Like I said, I think that if you plant a bad seed, you'll get a bad harvest. And it may not come back, you still could have money, but it don't mean you happy. People don't realize that. So many people think that money equates to happiness. Fame and money. But it don't. And you can learn that by robbing that guy, that Robin Williams guy that killed his seven year, $80 million. The actor, the actor. Yeah, so you know, it don't equate to happiness. Sometimes you can't find yourself within the algorithm of who you are, and it can mess you up. Right on. And no matter how much money you got, no matter who all know you, you still are in a place where you feel lost. Right on. It happens. And that's just the way it is. But just like I had to ask another person that we had on here that's in the music industry, and like I feel sorry for artists, because if you're having a bad day, somebody passed away, you still gotta go to work. You still gotta go on that stage. We just talked about that with Lil Ronnie. And you have, no it wasn't Lil Ronnie. It wasn't Lil Ronnie. I thought it was Lil Ronnie. Probably. But you know, you have to put that on. He say it's a job. Yeah, it was Lil Ronnie. Yeah, he said it's a job. But then you have a job that you have to affect thousands and millions of people everywhere compared to you're going to an office where you just dealing with one and two people here and there or whatever, it's different. It's so much more pressure to me. So it's hard for some people to handle that. Everybody live their life online now too. You know, there's no privacy. There's no boundaries. There's no, now it's a man laying on the floor bleeding shot, but it's somebody standing over on with a camera. Like why you, like there's so weird to me. It's weird. It's different now. You never would have seen that back in the day. I mean, we shot niggas leaving the club. I ain't gonna lie to you, but we didn't stand in a picture. We didn't take no pictures. Back in the day, we didn't do it like that. We just shot. And then we just ran Bell off. They'd be like, two people got shot. We'd be like, yeah. I heard about that. Yeah, but it was cool. But we did not want to be exposed like these cats today. They'll take pictures. Some niggas will do bad things. I know I heard a story yesterday of a nigga that done some dirt. He want to be on my show. He want to be on this other niggas show. He trying to do shows before he get called by the police. I'm being real. This is a crazy world we live in. People are doing crazy stuff all the time. You would be amazed at their concept. They're like, if I get caught, I still got interviews rolling. I'm... He didn't think it was something totally different. But it's the normality of evil in the world right now. Because they really smart in a way. That's the truth. You know what I'm saying? I'm not smart, like dumb smart. No, no, no. It's the truth. People are gonna tune in and look at them. They're gonna be like, yeah, that's a real one right there. He did this thing. And it's so backwards. We gotta break that, man. But how can we come back from that? Because it's so bad where, to me, I'm like, it's only gonna get worse. And we can't fathom the thought of how worse can it be. Because all we can think about is what it is right now. You know, one of the things that made me realize we was just too far gone, man. I was in an apartment in Houston a couple years back. You know, I stayed there, you know, my apartment. But I can hear a conversation between my next door neighbor's son and one of his friends, right? So they sound to be around like 10, 12 or something like that. So one of the friends come and knock on the door. I'm thinking somebody knocked at my door. That's how I end up hearing that conversation. So. You were these dropping. After I heard the beginning of the conversation, I had to, because I didn't know whether to open the door. And you know what I'm saying? So let me tell you something. He do knock on the door. He's like, yeah, what's up, bro? He's like, yeah, what's up? He's like, man, can I come in and use your restroom? Our water is out at our house. This little boy saying, what? You think I'm some kind of a hoe ass nigga, chump or something. Then these like 10 and 12 too. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you think I'm some kind of a hoe ass nigga? Come to my house and use my house and my restroom. I'm like, and then I can hear moments later a older person in the house. So I'm like, if I can hear this conversation, you can hear that conversation. You ain't tell that little boy to come in here and use that fucking restroom. That's crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? And they just let him leave. Yeah, they let him leave. You know what I'm saying? And then sometime I feel bad about it because I think back like, what the hell? You ain't tell that little boy to use his restroom. But I just, time's so weird. You can't be inviting random kids to your house. You don't have what was on his mind. You don't know, you know what I'm saying? You really gotta just be careful on how you move anyway. But the thing is, man, this little kid, you know, and the way that he articulate, it comes from his parents. It comes from his upbringing. So that's just how, the environment that he's raised in. So that's the way we gotta look at things. But I could say something to what you were saying earlier. Platforms like this, lyrics like he's talking about, he's evolving to. Those are the things that are therapeutic to the ears of our youth. We have to start right now. And every little piece that we can add to it is where we can find healing. And then too, it's a heightened sense of anger amongst black people, you know what I'm saying? So it's like the music that's coming out and the media period, just any media that's coming out is amplifying it. And when you have a heightened emotion and somebody throws something in your face, a lot of times you act out for it because you will have a heightened emotion. It's like, I used to study psychology. And the thing that fascinated me most about it is like a newborn baby. Like, if you walk up to a newborn baby and they don't know you, it's a baby sitting there and you jump at the baby. The baby's gonna jump back like, ah. It's a response. If you start laughing after you do that, the baby's gonna start laughing too. If you keep saying raw, he gonna start crying. If you just say raw and just sit there, he ain't gonna know what to do. He gonna have to think on his own. He might still start laughing, he might still start crying. You know what I'm saying? That's it. It's like... Learn behavior. Learn behavior. That's what it boils down to. So let me ask you this, because I was looking up things on you. How did Erica, how did Erica and you, because I'll keep hearing you and Erica might do some work together. Erica Baidu, shout out to the Dallas native for a couple I do. I love her. I love her. The mother, yeah. How did y'all end up, how did y'all end up even, how did that conversation even start ringing throughout the... The crazy part about this is Erica found me. Why she found you? You know what I'm saying? She followed me on Instagram. Really? So one morning I was laying in my bed, you know, just had really rolled over. Like, you know, and I'm, you know, wiping my eyes, you know, grabbed my phone, you know, kind of just scrolling through my little morning traffic which I do every morning. But yeah, and then I was like... You thought it was catfish or something. I scrolled past it. I scrolled past it. I was like, you know, read a little comment or a double and it just rung in my head right after I scrolled past it. And I was like, no, let me go just click a page. I clicked a page and seen it was really... Wow, I wish I could click Erica. Follow me. When you follow E-C-E-O, Erica Baidu, we over here at Boss Talk 101. Hey, you follow asshole and gold. You can follow Boss Talk podcast 101 and come on on the show. He'll go do it, he'll go do it. I'm all right guy, right? So, but that's amazing, bro. And the reason I say that because you don't get that, she see the talent in you, bro, and I do too. I'm gonna be real. I know exactly why, because y'all, for some reason, like I said, it's something different about you. It's not like everybody that you see. So I think that's a uniqueness in itself. Man, and love it. So when she read y'all, I mean, when she did that, what you could do? Went straight to the DM, nigga? No. She was only going straight to the DM. No, she went in your DM. This is what's most crazy. Wait a minute, man. Not only did she follow me, she had sent me like five, six messages and a voice message. So I got the voice message in my phone still. Her like, yeah. So I was like, ooh, what the hell? I'm, I'll start dancing. Ain't God, ain't God good. Ain't God good, man. Ain't God good. Hey, man, hallelujah. Man, what happened, man? I'll start dancing, man. I don't blame you. You might have been out of dance with you, nigga. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's what's up. Of course, man, I just try to let my hands calm down a little bit so I can message her back, but I'm nervous. I wish I could get that. I never had that to happen. Well, I have had a few people that was celebrity status. Got in on me. Shout out to a couple of them. Y'all know y'all are. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't dance because she didn't want to do status, but. I just love, man. She's just like, oh my, like OMG. I love your style, you're so dope and da, da, da, da. I'm just like, man, this is amazing. Blowing my head back. You know what I'm saying? So I'm calling my team and she's like, you know, Eric Abadou, just follow me. You know, I'm telling everybody, you know what I'm saying? I've been doing the same thing. I'm like, man, and it's going crazy. You know what I'm saying? Maybe like a month after that, she ended up reaching out to me again to book me for a show for her birthday party. You know what I'm saying? So that was like one of the biggest audiences I have ever performed before on the show. And y'all talked and everything. Yeah, yeah. It's a real relationship. That's what I say. When I meet people, you can't walk away from me. No, no. I can tell you that now. I don't really know. As soon as I talk to you, you know the nigga fly, right? The nigga told me. You know what he said? I said, what's up, man? I said, man, I love what you're doing. He said, you ain't seen nothing yet. That's what the nigga said. I said, wait a minute. My hand ain't even been exposed yet. Man, I loved it, bro. I love the confidence. And I love, like I said, the creativity and the uniqueness, man. Just the uniqueness in what you do in the artistry, man. It's crazy. Can I play a little bit of that song, man? Just a little? Yeah, you can do it, too. I don't want, I just want a little bit of it because did you hear, I tried to play it for you when you was in the kitchen cooking this morning. Oh, okay, go ahead. I just want to play a little bit of it. I hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one? It's one that he ain't even put out. It's God taking about my dreams. Yeah, man, that's the one there, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's the one that got me going. Is that the one he said he was singing on or something? Yeah, that's one of those songs I'm singing on. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I want to make sure I get the right one. Big blues going on, man. That's it right there. That's it right there. Just a little bit for y'all. Just to show y'all why I'm so excited, niggas. I'm trying to get that bridge before I cut it off, right now. Come on. Man. That is. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Man. Baby, I don't want to be taken by my dreams. When I'm asleep. Hold on to my feet. Baby, I don't want to be taken by my dreams. Man. Boy, I tell you, man. That's a vibe. That's a whole, when I sleep. I like what he said. Hold on to my feet. I don't want to be taken by my dreams. Baby, I don't want to be taken by my dreams. Did you understand what's going on? Same, man. Same, man. Man, my friend. Yeah, man. But it's everything that you write true. For the most part. So I'm an artist. Hard broken and... Oh, no, that's all. I miss men in general. Sometimes I paint a picture, but yeah, that's our life right there. That was nice. That's our real life. Did you like it? Did it flow go in or did it go in? It just kind of puts you in a mood. She do, man. I appreciate y'all. So when you... Well, you already told me when you go in, you heard that beat. What did you think when you first heard that beat? Funny story about this song in particular, right? I wrote this song when I was 19. What? Really? And you just now put it out. And you're 31 now. So, no, no, no. I wrote this song when I was 19. Wow. That's crazy, man. I actually recorded it then to another beat. And at that time, though, I wasn't knew about it as what I am now. So it pretty much fell on deaf ears. So I was like, that don't get lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just came and recreated it on this one. I just love the way you be seeing it and doing the hooks and everything. Because you did that on that one, that burn for me. You did the same thing. Not only did he sing it, he wrapped his part, but he'll hook you. And once he hook you, it's a problem. Yeah, it's a whole different level. Like, nigga, they think of it to take me somewhere. See, I like rap music where someone is versatile, like yourself, where they can sing and rap, but have a lot of play of words that make you think. Not just, I don't like fast rappers because I can't understand one word you're saying. I have to be like, okay, pause, okay, replay. Let me hear what you're saying. But I can understand you. And I love your play of words because it makes me think like, wow. So I was a poet first, you know? Okay. You can tell. You can tell. I can tell. It's a vibe, it's a whole vibe. Like I said, I grew up idol to myself a lot. So in being that I didn't have friends and young cousins and stuff like that, she, who I was gonna sell my thoughts and feelings and opinions with, you know what I'm saying? So I found refuge in the pen and paper. Wow. So I started writing poetry, you know? Beautiful poetry, really like stuff that was making people cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You seen it. And there was it like 12, 13. Wow. That's gotta be a surprise. I just feel that he turned his idol time to something constructive. Because you have a lot of kids. A lot of kids don't. A lot of kids don't. Who have the idol time. What about the kids he just talking about earlier? Same thing. Right, I end up on the streets, you know, selling drugs because they hanging out with friends, you know, whatever they don't wanna be at home. You took that into something constructive and I love that. Thank you, thank you. Yeah man, you're doing a great job, man. So this next project, when did you say it's coming in? Not long. April 4th, yeah. April 4th. It's right, it's about to show up in a minute. It's called the H team. The H team. We gotta try to figure out a way to do something big for that day. What day is that on? I don't know what actual date is on. What date is it on? Look it up. Look it up. Let's see where it's at. I don't know what date is on. I'm trying to figure it out. You gonna have a listening party, anything like that? So I'm gonna do a meet and greet. Okay. I just, I'm one of those dudes that I'll be a relationship as well. Okay, okay, definitely. I went to Redbird Mall recently. Okay, yeah, yeah. And that's a Sunday. I just, okay, Easter Sunday. Easter Sunday, yeah. Easter fall on Sunday. Yeah, so you met some cats over there, you wanna do it over there? Yeah, I was, what was I doing in the mall? I was actually buying this ring. Okay, okay. Shout out these new diamonds on the show. Already? No, I'm saying, yeah. Yes, sir, that's it. Brooklyn Jewelers got me right here. All right, Brooklyn, shout out Brooklyn. Nigga, I'm coming get my nicks, nigga. No, I'm saying big diamonds on the fingertips. Yeah, nigga, I'm coming right behind my boy, asshole and gold, nigga, give me right. Yeah, so I was dealing with them and I was walking out on my way out the mall and I just stopped in a couple of the stores, grabbed a couple, some clothes and shit. So on my way, like literally walking out the door, though, I seen this shoe store. Okay. So they sell like retro shoes, like collectibles and stuff like that. So of course, that caused my attention, but I walked in, like I say, I just came from the jeweler. I just came from buying some clothes and stuff. So I'm like, I really don't need to be in this store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because these resales shoes. They ain't go with the big money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the spin. Yeah, so I'm like, damn. But I'm like, I want this relationship though. You know what I'm saying? So I ended up finding a pair for like 200 and I was like, okay. I'm gonna rock with them. And I like them, they cool. I know how they cool, but I'm gonna open this relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I bought the shoes, got to chop it up with a dude, you know what I'm saying? Zeke Sneaks. Shout out Zeke Sneaks, man. Yeah, Zeke Sneaks. So shout out dude. He was actually a real cool dude, had good energy. You know, and he was just like, man, yeah, man. I like your vibe and stuff, man. You look like a rapper. You know, you got your whole little situation going on. So like anytime, man, you just come to have a listening party here. You want to sell some merch if you want to this, that and the other. So I did what I needed to them to, you know, make that situation. Hey man, and at the end of the day, man, that day, man, like I said, I'm gonna try to home on into you. If I'm up here at the shop, I'm gonna try to reach out to you, man. We got to do things to push the agenda on every platform, man. That's the way it go. You know, this internet thing make it all the way different the way people get down. So we got to always think about that. You got to go the extra mile when it comes down to the internet resources and the social media platform pushing it every stream. People should be able to hear it. And that's how it happens, you know. But- The pandemic made people do that even more. I think the algorithm is definitely stronger now than it was before that little pandemic thing happened as far as when it comes to the internet resources. People know they got to rely on it more, people working at home more, people tune in more, and we got to take advantage of it. We got to figure out a way to make sure we need to be to make sure that they hear what they need to hear, right? Right on. So it was a song. You and Trillip Pope got a song called One Way. What's up with that? And that one ain't came out yet either. Nah, that's all on the coming project, the H-Team, man. So Trillip Pope, man. I love that dude. He just left here. The boy just pulled up, man. Then they gon' fly, y'all fly to me. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Ain't no tellin' what I'ma get. I was Trillip Pope's high shining shoe. Man, it's a nigga guy. He got up in here. I don't know what he was doin' there. I said, man, that's my guy though. He was so humble, he was so real when he came down to who he is as a producer. Just like you. I mean, y'all got this vibe, man. Both of y'all different. He catered to different type music than what you would normally hear in the rap genre. To me, it sticks out a little bit different. Same, like yours is more, I don't know what to call it, bro. But y'all got this thing where y'all's in your own lane. I just put it like that. And that's a good thing. But how did y'all come up with this banger? So, I wanna say Coloni on a beat made that Abba? Made that beat, the production for it. I'm not a hundred percent sure though. Somebody else may have made that one. But I did it at Coloni's studio. Okay. I knew Trillip through music. Okay, okay. Him being his own power and his own entity. Yeah, yeah. Did he know you already as well? Yeah, we knew each other. Yeah, I'd heard each other, heard it. From just being around different venues. Y'all both got something with Chucky Trill too. And B Banks, B Banks got, you don't have nothing with B Banks yet, do you? Not yet, but that's my guy, man. Just on the strength of Chuck, I wanna work with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a movement. Again, R.P., my nigga, Chucky Trill. R.P., Chucky Trill, man. Real talk. I love that man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got a tattoo of him and you muscle. Nah, real shit, yeah. I got Trill Trill on my back, you know what I'm saying? So my nigga got my back for Elville. Elville, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He seemed like a nice guy, seemed like he had a great energy too. I couldn't understand that whole thing and I know they still trying to figure it out. Man, yeah, he overcame so much to still be slain. Like it hurts so much cause it's eight years, independent entry. Yeah, I didn't know that. He had just beat a case, another case. Like maybe like two months or something like that. I don't know the timeframe is acting, but he had just signed a couple deals. I thought he was rocking out with 1501. He got a relationship with him. Yeah, that's what I thought, but because I always, you know. He wasn't with 1501. He wasn't with him, but he just took sign himself, like me. Really? Yeah, he made his own label, signed himself and various himself. Were you with Carl Crawford in and boy down there before? No, yeah, so I actually am probably gonna end up signing with 1501. That's where you gonna be at? I've been hanging with Carl for a couple of months now. Okay, shout out to Carl Crawford. And he knows, he been rocking with my page. I love that. Every time I wake up, he'll look at it or something and I email him, I'll keep emailing him. I'll be like, anytime your artist come through Dallas, y'all gotta stop through Boss Talk 101. I said it up. Yeah, tell him, just mention it to him cause I already emailed him. We need to all slide through. Yeah, yeah, anytime you come through the D, you gotta come see E at Boss Talk 101. Yeah, big Boss Talk 101. Yes, man, big Boss Talk, it's going down that way. You know, the thing I say about you, man, is like I said, I said Grammy Award winning early. I meant that, bro, like that's why Erica hit you up cause y'all like mine. I hate to say it, y'all, you could tell y'all different and she's seen that, she's seen herself in you. I say that, I'm flyin' it. Oh, I'm fly, you hear what I just said? Yeah. She's seen herself in you. A lot of people think she's seen Andre in me. I don't think so. I mean, she's seen some Andre in you. I get that, but... That creativity. I think the way you, you're different, bro. Andre's different, don't get me wrong, he got his own thing, but you got your own thing going too. It ain't like you saying, okay, I'm gonna be like, this is why I aspire to be there. It ain't like that. I didn't even know about Andre 3000 when I started rapping. No, you can tell. Like I said, I didn't listen to music at all. No, no, you can tell. It just was me going at... This is my voice. I sound like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I rap into a microphone to a beat, people are like, oh, he sound like Andre 3000. I sound like me. Yeah. But cool that if they remind you of Andre 3000. I think it does, too, now that I think of it. Yeah. I mean, but I wanna say, I could see that, she hear that, but it's something different about you and your style. I've been watching the videos. I've been seeing how you doin' your thing. And I know that it's not something where, oh, okay, I'm seein' him and I'ma do that. It ain't like that, bro. I know. Believe me, if it was, I'd tell you. You're just... I mean, like, no, nigga, you actin' like old boy. I didn't do that to preachers, man. I'm pretty... To preachers. Yeah, I'm like, no, you... Yeah, I think you act like they do. All y'all act the same. Y'all say it, man. Like, you gotta... It's a thing, cause you gotta understand, man. I like genuineness. So, real gon' recognize real. I mean, we talkin' earlier. Just some of the things that we talk about and some of the things that you sayin', you know. I know for a fact, man, that you somethin' different. And I would never violate that by tryin' to stand it up any other way. Right on. Period. You know what I'm sayin'? That's it. I can't wait to see the work, man. I can't... Man, hope you and Cardin' him end up gettin' that deal straight. I'd love to see y'all work, cause he do a good job, man. And to me, I seen the girls pop off on that, but you be the dude to pop off on that whole label, bro. But shout out Stona Bams, though. Okay, okay. That's the... I don't know if it's the first male audience he workin' with, but that's who he... They tryin' to pop off right now. Okay. I did that thing with me. I hadn't even... I hadn't tuned into him. I gotta lock into him. Cause I been seein'... I seen Megan and I seen Erica Banks. Shout out Erica Banks from Dallas, Texas. Shout out Erica Tuglia. See movin', movein'. So that's why I was like the girls to me, but I gotta check him out. Is he good? He got some. Stona Bams, yeah. Shout out Stona Bams. Stona Bams actually been around for a while. Okay, okay. In H-Town, yeah. Okay. So I don't know how long he been with Carl. I think it's a new situation. Okay. I'm not sure, though. But yeah, I went to the studio just on my own accord, you know, fuckin' with Carl. And one of the times that I went, they was listenin' to some of his project that was gettin' ready to drop. And I liked a couple of the songs, you know? Yeah. Good dude. You know what I'm sayin'? Music wise. Yeah. I ended up going to his listening party he had out here in Dallas, too. Okay. With Hollywood Baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I shout out Hollywood Baby. He do them listening parties. I be on him about that, man. But goin' hard over there. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Y'all over there, in Addison, over there by our belt line or so. I been over there years ago. I hadn't been lately, though. I be stayin', man, I'm so, hey, man, I'm low to the earth, baby. Yeah, I forgot the name of the Luminus. Luminus. Luminus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was actually the first studio I ever recorded there when I came to Dallas. Really? Okay. I like these set up over there, too. It's nice. I think that's like the number one studio I've been in Dallas. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken. No, no, it's nice. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, it's a whole different vibe. A whole bunch of unnecessary recordings, please. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The room in, another room in front of another room. I seen it. I know what he doin' over there. The booth? It's like the size of this room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's poppin', though. That show was great love in Dallas. We love to have you. Oh, yeah. You put an orchestra in there, motherfucker. Everything is big in Texas, so you better believe it. Say it again. Say it again. That's what gotcha still here. Don't play it. What the? She gotta be honest. I love it, man. So, yeah, man. So I got a question. You got a question? Yes. All right, get it poppin'. I want you to give me your top three artists Oh, yeah. Of all time. Top three artists. Dead Over Live. That's what we do here. Any genre. Yes, sir. I'm glad you said Dead Over Live because it brought me back to bring up pop. Poppin' is also pop. Let me say this before I go. Let you go any further with that pop statement. You ought to feel very, very blessed. No, blessed. To do, Brad Jordan did a song with pop. He did. I'm trying to have a conversation. Well, how was that? You know, that's what I want to do here. You had an opportunity to work with a guy that worked with pop. That's on a whole other level for me, bro. Yeah. Real talk. Starface did the last feature with pop. That's exactly right. You know your history. But you don't know this part of the new history. Talk about it. I got the last verse from face. Really? He ain't rapping no more. Get out of here. Get out the booth and say, that's it. You know what I mean? He shook my hands like, you got the last one. I'm hanging it up after this, man. He done. Wow. I was like, man. I don't know if he's going to hold to today. You know, Joe, he just didn't do the same thing. He was high every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time. You know what I'm saying? We hadn't heard much from him lately anyway, though. So I could see that, man, because he been dipplin, dabblin in the different things, you know, with the city and all type of stuff. So I get it. But if he did, you blessed, man. And anyway, just to be in the room and even do a song with him, anybody would have been. That's a whole another level, bro. So Scarface. So Pocky's his number one. Pocky's number one. Scarface, man, shout out, Brad Jordan. Man, you ain't for the stop rapping. They got need these lyrics, man. You know what I'm saying? It's therapeutic, baby. That's how I feel when I heard it. Yeah. For what? Just stop rapping for a while. You don't have to. You know what I'm saying? He's probably just tired of it. He wants to do some other stuff. I think he, is there blues? He got a band now. OK. Yeah, I don't know if he have a band, but he's trying to pull him one on one they just be rocking out of something like that. That's what's up. Yeah. Wow. And he go too. That's what's up. Oh, yeah. Tupac. So Tupac, of course. I would have to, I have to say, like Erika. Erika, I do. I wouldn't blame you. I wouldn't blame you at one bitch. You from Dallas, Texas. Yeah, I'm just going to be real. Are you number three? No, no, no, two. Let's go back down to Tupac, Erika. And then Tupac, Erika Baidu. And I probably couldn't just say three, man. No, no, we need one more. We got to have it. No, I'm just saying. No, I could say three. But she's like, dang, I need more. I know I might have to leave some people. Yeah, yeah, Erika Baidu. Erika Baidu. Steps and leave them off. PMC. Man, this is my guy. That's why I love this nigga right here, man. You can come to the show any day, any way. You ain't got to set a point. Just pull up. That's all you have to do. Pull up. Asshole and go pull up, man. The Boss Talk 101 approved, period. Yeah. Exclamation. I loved it, bro. Tupac, keep on going. Erika Baidu. Erika Baidu at PMC, man. Texas, holla at you, boys. You need gossip. Yeah, man. So how can they get a hold of you, somebody they don't know? What's your handles out there on Instagram? I'm most pop, Trillie just popped in the room. Did he? Man, what up, boy? Yeah, we'll just talk about your family. Yes, sir. Hey, Paul, yeah, we'll just talk about your family. Man, shout out to my dad. Trillie. Paul. What's your address? Well, I was just asking, how can they find you? I'm at A-I-N-G of Fangang on Instagram. Okay. F-A-N-G-G-A-N-G. Okay. Everything else, you can search me as-hold-and-go. As-hold-and-go? Yeah, as-hold-I-N-go, not the letter N, or not the word and, because people does it with two misconceptions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was looking it up and I had to figure that out myself. I don't know why people think as-hold-and-go. Like, that sound kind of suspect, you know. Like, as-hold-and-go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah. No, but I know you have that symbol, the pound sign and an eight. What's that? It's missing from this side, but this supposed to be the eight on this side. So this means Fangang and the eight is to symbolize eternity. Okay. So it's like Fangang forever. Oh, okay. Okay. Because I thought I was like, I didn't know, that's a question I didn't get to do, but I got my questions right. Ha ha ha ha. You're very competitive. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. But you didn't answer all my questions, man, they ain't gonna lie. What do your parents think about your music? That's what I- Your mother. I think, yeah. Have you ever met your father? Yeah, so my dad is actually a pastor. So it's weird that we don't have a relationship, you know what I'm saying? Like, doing fine, know me, know where I lived all my life. He actually paid child support up until 18. And then there was his last moment to speak or connect or whatever. But even while he was paying child support, he never kept a relationship with me. It was always like the money under the dough ran back to the car. I done seen him do that, cause I was getting in trouble. I seen her in the movie. Yeah, and I was like, this some shit out of the movie, yeah. Man, that's crazy. I done seen- Your life is a movie, you need to write a book. Oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be. Yeah, yeah, you need to write a book, cause that's crazy. I was at home suspended from school a couple of times. That's how I used to see him come slide the check under the dough, you know what I'm saying? But those were the only times I physically laid eyes on my father. But you never spoken to him before. One time when I was 15 years old. That's crazy. I got my first job. So crazy, let me just tell y'all the story. Oh yeah, we get it, this is exclusive. You ain't told this before? Not in this type of deal. Okay, let's go. So when I was 15 years old, I got my first job at Krogas. Okay. You know, where I lived at, my front gate was on Homestead, my back gate was on the street called Aldean Mill Rout. Okay. Aldean Mill Rout stretch for a while, like, you know, it's a long street. Got my neighborhood, like I say, the back gate starts my neighborhood. I mean, the end of the street starts at my neighborhood. Then you have maybe three minutes from there, the Krogas. Okay. Then you have maybe three minutes from there, my middle school. Okay. Then right across the street from my middle school was his church. Wow. Right, like maybe one minute from that was my high school. Wow. I lived my whole goddamn life. Right there at his, right there with him. Yeah. And he never would speak to me. He never would try to make a relationship. And he seen you. And I don't, he would see you in person? I don't know. I don't even know how you look. He didn't, he don't. He didn't. And that's so shameful. He didn't even know what I look like. So this is what I'm getting to. That's crazy. When I was 15 years old, I got my first job at Krogas. So being that his church was there, he came in Krogas. So I'm pushing carts through the parking lot. You know, I was a car attendant that day. And he walked past me in the irony and what he said was, hey, how you doing son? Wow. And just kept on walking. Didn't know who the fuck I was. Yeah. He just said, hey, how you doing son? And kept on walking. But you knew who he was. But it stopped me in my tracks cause I'm like, can't you the dude be sliding the goddamn child's poor checks under the door? You knew that was him? Yeah. So I'm like, Wow. And I had his number since I was like 10. I just never called him. Never called him. So I'm erotic. I'm just going out like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm messing with you a little bit. I'm erotic, yeah. But I'm a, I get my phone, I called him. He answered the phone real quickly. I'm like, hey, you know, you just like, walk past me, this your son. But I called him daddy when he answered the phone. Cause I don't know what the call is man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So he ended up hanging the phone up in my face. Wow. Yeah. So I went home, of course, told my mom. So your mom had upset you? She went off. Went off, you know. Did she call him? Yeah, you know. And he ended up saying, well, I'ma come and get him on the weekend. And I'ma talk to him. So I'm thinking, oh, I just had a breakthrough. And I'm finna have daddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? No. He didn't show. No, he showed. Wow. This man picked me up, took me to the Lubbys, down the street from where we lived at. He was just explaining to me that he'll never be in my life. I don't, don't refer to him as daddy. We don't have that kind of relationship. That's what he told me. Wow. Don't call me daddy. We don't have that kind of relationship. I'll never be part of your life. I don't want to be. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm crazy. I'm just looking at this man like. Wow. I'm just sitting here just fumbling through my potatoes. Yeah. Like really? Damn, man. That's crazy. Never heard something like that in my life. Yeah. And he knows you or something. How did that make you feel? And what did you say to him? No, he'll go to Mellow Hill this fall. That's what she do. I didn't, I didn't necessarily respond to it. I was just more like, okay. He ain't been my daddy for all these years. I don't kill. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, nigga. You didn't call it nigga, nigga. The only reason I not. Say nigga. I didn't even did what I did is because the moment happened. Yeah. You saw him, yeah. Yeah, so. But you know what? But to me, that would give you some sort of closure because you know that, you know what I mean? It did in a sense, because he was. They have another family. This nigga had another family. He got a whole, no. That's why he don't have no more sons. He got a stepson, then he got like three daughters. But that's your namesake. Like, why would you do that to your, you know, your name? He had me out of wedlock. He cheated on his wife. And so he never knew about it. The church didn't know about me. God, his wife knew. It's really, I don't know if she knew from jump, but she found out later. Let me not get all up into that. Boy, that's what's going on. He ain't trying to, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you know the thing I can say is, man, going through experiences stretch you. Yeah. It pretty much make it to where you go through things, but at the end of the day, it's just to pretty much form the character that we get today. And I thank God for whatever you win. That's all. Whatever you win though, man. It made you to be the artist you are today. So do you think that that's the reason why you are who you are? Because he was missing out of your life? No, I think I kind of embody that attitude. Like, he sat down and looked me in my face and told me, yeah, you ain't shit, never gonna be shit, leave me alone. Yeah. And that's motivation. If he sit there in my face and told me that, I guess people can talk like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, to be honest with you, you got it honest. Yeah. It really is. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? You got it honest. Yeah, man. Yeah, not to Carol. Not to even, not to, hey, I'll say whatever I got to say and do what I got to do. It always bothered me though, because I never, for years and years, I never talked to people about that, never told them that story. It's a breakthrough when you can talk about it. But it wasn't that I couldn't. It was that I didn't want to deter people from God. I felt like if people found out that he was that type of man that they might believe less in my God. I was like, well, I love God more than I love myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to, that's heavy. Do that, but then. Because that mentally captivated you that way. Yeah, man, I love what he's saying because that didn't deter him. From God. From God, because you could be like, my father did it. Yeah, we're kind of God we serve. Right, I love that. But I just thank God that you didn't do that because at the end of the day, most of the time people who project what's in the book really don't look the same as the book pretty much tells you to be. Because they're human beings too. And that's what Kev says, you know what I'm saying? Like I say, I like these old vampire movies and these old movies because them were different men. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he ain't that. Yeah, I already, I get it. So that's why I wasn't chipping about it. That's your why too. That's a hell of a why. That's the reason why, nigga, I'm gonna go get it. I gotta get it anyway just cause it'll either make you come closer to your kids or you'll be the same as him. Yeah, me and my kids real close, yeah. It did the exact opposite thing. And it happens that way. You had a hell of, that was a hell of a blow, man. You coming up with all these questions, man, at the end. Hell, we been sitting here. Folks gotta go to, what y'all say y'all going to? Y'all going out of town. They got time for you. Yeah, we going to Houston, man. Yeah, you done wrote a book. Look at this. I'm done, I'm done. Okay, one more thing. I didn't wrote a book. No, but I noticed you mentioned that song and I had it written down, Beautiful in Love. Beautiful is love, sorry. Beautiful is love, yeah. I said, I forgot to type it in. How did you come up with that name and what happened? Now, was that a fiction or? No, that's why I'm so ashamed about it. Cause it's not fiction, that's crazy. So it's like, Beautiful is Love is like, in the, I had the right intention with the song. It just didn't, I don't think it came out what I was trying to say. Beautiful is love, man. Right, cause it sounds like a really nice, like, oh my God, you're saying that love is beautiful. That's what I was thinking when I heard the title. And that's what I was trying to say, but it was more in the sense of me painting a picture of something that wasn't that, so that it could be like, oh no, this ain't love. Like, you know, that was supposed to be the thing. But it came out more so like, that's the folk of that song you just said. You know what I'm saying? It wouldn't be so bad if it wouldn't for like the last 30, 45 seconds. It's just like, them last little seconds, I was like slamming it. Do people remake the songs and make them into something different? Well, when you're independent, you can do what you wanna do. Do what you wanna do, yeah, yeah. So you can always go back and, you know, do a twist on it and remake it. We redropping Beautiful is Love. Wow, shout out to the dude that can remake it song right here at Mr. Bones Talk 101, man. That's right. Man, so we're gonna have to have you back on the show, man. Anytime you got a big project, don't just cause you, if you do end up signing to anybody, do not neglect Boss Talk 101 if it permits, you know. Sometimes they have y'all in the stipulations. I've had many, many, many, many, many, many, many interviews and dealt with many, many, many, many industry people. Come on now. You know, it's hard and rare that you run into somebody you just have some good chemistry with, man. This was one of my best interviews I've been, you know, so I definitely get back through. Man, I'm gonna tell you something, man. There's something about these seats in here and we've been praying in here for many, many years. Yeah, let me take one of these chairs. We've been praying, we've been praying for many years to make sure we come up. We pray about it all the time. That story that you told will help somebody. That's the whole game for us. Yeah, that's what we want. Because the realness is gonna affect people. And certain kids out there that's going through situations that we don't really know of may be worse than yours to be. I know they're worse than yours, some of them, because I got some guys coming over here with some crazy stories. And the thing I can say, because one guy I talked to yesterday here, his dad died when he was being born and then his mother, she died four months after he was born. He brought up in a, yeah, that's how I going down over here. So, yeah, so these are the stories we're trying to get out there as well. So you done did both segments. Because no matter what, you're not the only person who's going through it or been through it. Somebody else younger is going through the same thing right now. And don't know how to deal with certain things, turn it into a wrong, when you actually turn it into a right. So even with your experiences, I know before you know, we used to like to talk about it, but I really encourage you to put it into your music. Maybe not now, it depends on whenever God move you to do it, but put it in your music, turn it in a positive way. Oh, it's in there. Yeah, it's in there. Yeah, asshole in gold. I don't feel that way no more. I'm not deterring people from gold. Yeah, yeah. That man is his own man. Already, already. He made his own, hey, he made his own bed. He made his own bed. You're going to have to lie in it to be honest, because you don't, hey, listen man, asshole in gold got us over here. Before we leave, go ahead and shout out my little sister as well. Okay. Exact same situation. Oh yeah, so it's always the same. He have another child, music making mommy, that's my little sister, man. Really? I just met her, didn't even know she existed. I just, I've been knowing her for about two or three years now. And he said the same thing to her. And you know, the crazy thing is. I gotta follow her and get her on here too. The crazy thing is, yeah. Okay. She actually grew up in his church. Wow. And he played, it's a book. It never knew. Nobody knew. It never knew that was her father. He played like he was her godfather. Wow. The whole time. So hold on, hold on. So the question that came to my mind when you're saying all this like, how many other kids do you have? And I'll be thinking that too. But I would just hope that it ain't a third one that this, you know what I'm saying? If it is, reach out to me, man. Oh really? It's shit. Reach out to me. That's a hell of a story, bro. You really write a book, man. How old is she? Book, really. She's like 25, 26. But that's a far distance between you and her. Yeah, he was still in it. Right, that's been going on for a while. That's what I was looking at. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, he hang around the pool pits after church. Well, you know pool pits. It's only one place in the Bible in the book of Nehemiah. It don't mean much. Woo, just hit you with the knowledge. Go look it up. You know what I'm saying? Say it, man. This been a great segment of Boss Talk 101, man. Appreciate you, bro. Man, I appreciate y'all, man. Beat Boss Talk 101. Yeah, you man. It's a union. And we out.