 Why? Why are you laughing? Pretty Vish is not my type and not my spec. Hey yo mama, we've been painting Tezamadju Espi and Bazwell. Welcome behind the tattoo with superstar amazing artist of father figure, celebrity, a billionaire, and entrepreneur, Oga Obina. That billionaire part, amen. Glory beat from your mouth to God's ears. Amen. That's billions. That's where we're going. So welcome to the new show behind the tattoo with silver kiddo. So tell me Obina, do you recall your first memory, the first day you went to get a tattoo? Ya ya, I remember because where Lina my mom was there. So the friend of mine is called Proff. He's the one who did for me my first ever tattoo. Wacha wacha ni toehiki dogo. Wacha wacha wacha ni toehiki dogo. Ladies, ladies, it's your time. Mekwamki slide gonyadiye muna sema. Titu mi ya kifuwa kikido go. Lewa taona. Lewa taona for free. So this one here, so was my first ever tattoo. So a friend of mine called Proff. He did it for me but he did it manually. Nilo na chikuwa shindano, na bayi shindano. Anafunga na wuzi kwa mdomo. Alafa na chikuwa inkso, na dipkuwa ink, alafa na kudunga dunga iwi. My mom was there wearing some salon in Maseno. I remember that day very nice. It was called Unity Salon. It was owned by a lady called Brenda. So my mom is there na shikuwa. Then mi ni kwa po nafanyu wa tatu. Mama na mi ya, mbonu nafanyu witu kwa mdomo. Mbonu nafanyu witu kwa mdomo. Na mi ya nisa mama wuzi into style. Proff ali kwa na ma tattoo everywhere. So ali kwa na ni nini. Nini ni kwa. So we did this one. But that time it was hard. I don't remember the age. I'm not very good with numbers and dates. But I remember the moment. So he did it. And then later, I went and added this other one. So the first one was MGZ. This was my dance hall. I was doing dance hall music. MGZ. My name is Magana. It's just Magana. So Zeg gives a slang for dance hall. Magana is my name. So MGZ. Later I did Obina. But now you can see there's a story. So it's like a second one. So I did this one. Then it came with Obina the crown. Then the tears and the blood. So it's a story basically. So before MGZ there were tears and blood. Then I came MGZ. Then there's a transition. Then I became Obina. Now when I'm Obina I'm going to the throne. That's why I have now the crown. So it's a story. So just to understand the story maybe now from MGZ Obina, the tears. Inspiration behind it. I just put the MGZ one because prof had tattoos. There was no inspiration behind it. But now Obina and the tears was now my story. I was like now this is my story. I've been through a lot. I evolved. I've moved in time but now this is this nation. We've not arrived yet but that is a plan. So it's more of a reminder that we need to get to the top. We need to get to the top. Tell us about your tears and joys because we understand it's a journey because you're almost there to the crown. Yeah. Slipping hungry, being kicked out, being disowned, being in the street doing a lot of odd jobs. Mjengo, kulemiwatu, kusa nyasi, kufanyakoteli, kusa maji. Basically I've been through all that. Being rejected many times. Being denied a couple of things. Being fired. I've been through the whole Shabang man. Absentum of course. Just to understand maybe. The tears and joys, Obina, the crown. I can see it's a different tattoo. I don't know how much it cost. I don't remember. This one I had here in Nairobi. Mjizio was profited for free. I just bought the Uzi and the Shinano. I remember because he had the ink. He had the psyche and wanted to do it for me. But these ones I don't remember. It's a long time ago. There was someone who used to have a shop up on in my nation center. But he came and got born again. Yeah, Moya Avenue. There's that building exactly by nation center. Some guy used to have locks. Then he got born again, he shaved. I think he still does tattoos. But nowadays he doesn't do the gothic tattoos and stuff. That was the guy. What is the reaction of your mom? She was there. She was there when I was doing this. She was in pain. No, my dad never knew. But my mom was like... Mom, you don't know man. You're not cool enough to understand me. That time was it pressure? Was it like that age you wanted to experience? Yes. Prof had tattoos, bro. I wanted to have tattoos. I wanted to have tattoos. I want to be gangsta. For the street bad boy for life. For the ladies? No, it wasn't really for the ladies. It was just for me. I was too young to even know. Like me I came from a very... For my family was very Christian and we were very... Like even when I was putting this my mom was like if your dad sees that brother you're dead. And I was like he's never gonna see. So anytime dad would come I would have long shots. Then when dad would come in the weekends you shall go into church and we would have the long shots and we would be in life. Your dad managed to maybe see the tattoos? No, I don't think so. Maybe he's so later when I put this other one but now he couldn't do nothing because I was a different person. I was not answerable to him no more. Okay, let's get to the other one. How many tattoos you have? Now I have three. If you look at different places, three parts of the body. In total you have three tattoos? Yes. So the second one is this one. So this one I put the names of my kids. So I put Leeron then I put Brianna then I put La Leite. So when Lola was born we had to add Lola. You can see I had the scroll and then somehow when Lola was born we had to extend the scroll. So when you extended the scroll now you also put the feather. Yeah, so that's it basically. So it's a scroll. So you can see the scroll is torn, meaning it's not complete. Meaning there's another part that's not there. So that means if I have any more children the scroll will continue. Of course you'll have so many children. Maybe yes. If I have more money, why not? Depends. I love children. If I have more money I would have more kids. Yeah, I love kids. Kids are blessings. Kids are angels. They make the house very lively. Like me and my kids are around always feel at peace. Naskia oro kupigakile, I'm like they're good. But when they are not around I'm just like Naskia oro kupigakile Then I have to always call them. Are you okay? They'll tell me I'm fine. But you look at them and you're like I know this person is not fine. But it is what it is. Let's talk about your now your tattoos with kids name. This Lola. Lyron. Briana. Have they seen them together? Yes, of course they've seen. I live with my kids. My kids know nearly everything about me. I've been complaining that it's not very visible to them. So they want it to be very visible. I don't know what we're going to do about that. Because tattoos are painful. Ya. No, in fact, I don't have three tattoos. I have four tattoos. So when I was putting this one, I put the third one. I'll show you. Yes, I'll show you the third one. So the kids want them to be more visible. Yes, like the font. You've mentioned it's very, very painful. Where it's having tattoos? No, I'll be adding more. Tattoos are an addiction. When you have, you always want to have more. Okay, Obina, just to understand. And now your family tattoos. I don't know maybe if given chance maybe you'll be able to have them, their names. Maybe you can allow your kids when they grow up maybe to have their tattoos of their own. Ya, ya, why not? If you feel grown up enough and you want to pain, why not? If they can pierce their ears, they can pierce their nose, then they can do the tattoo. When the right time comes. Of course, not now. Until you're 18, then you can decide whatever you want to do with your life. Given chance maybe to have the faces of your kids. I would. I would, but it's painful. But I would. Brother, I have four kids. I have four kids. If you have one, you can have four. I have four, bro. I have four kids. I love to say many young guys, kwa ni mwili kwa kwa billboard. They are there, Obinas. They are there, Obinas. So you have tattoos of your kids on your body. It shows that you're very proud to have them in your family. It reminds you maybe of not really. I just felt like I just wanted to have their tattoos. It wasn't really to remind me or to anything. Not really. I was more of, I want a tattoo. Which other tattoo can I have? Because I've told you from a Christian family, I didn't want to have those gothic things. They say first bed, let me just put my kids. And also all the time when you normally look at this tattoo, it reminds me of why I need to work harder. Because I wouldn't want my kids to go through the life I went through when I'm still alive. Maybe after I'm dead or something happens, God forbid, then now there's nothing much I can do. But maybe the much I've done now and also the empowerment that I've given them mentally, the ones that I've given them physically, spiritually, emotionally can be able to propel them to the next level to survive. But in the meantime I'm responsible for them. So anytime you look at this tattoo when you wake up in the morning at 4 like today when it was raining I'm like, I don't want to go to work. Look at the tattoo like we better. We better go to work. Because these people did not write me letters to bring them. I was having a good time and they came so I gotta take care of that. What was the next tattoo you came from? So this one. I know it looks like a dildo but it ain't bro. It ain't man look like a dick. Okay so this was a microphone. So the inspiration behind this was a basketball buff. So when I was a rapper a basketball buff had a microphone tattoo here. Normally has a microphone tattoo on his arm. So I was like I also want a microphone tattoo but because of the pain and everything then also because I was going corporate I don't want to have too many tattoos on my body and I look like Justin Bieber or Lil Wayne. So I was like let's do a microphone. So we did a microphone here. This is the most painful tattoo that I've ever had. This one. And trust me we've done it twice. But not because you wash your hands all the time, it fades. That is what happens. So it's been fading. So when you look at it it looks like a dick. Balb but it's not balb. Balb got in the refrigerator. He said balb is up you call. Yeah but this is the tip and then this is the recall for the nini. Yeah so I wanted to have a microphone because most of the time when I am C I always hold the microphone. So when I was a rapper I used to hold the microphone like this. So when I hold the microphone like this as a rapper you get to see the mic. Yes I used to do this like most guys who knew me as a rapper you don't know ain't I not shoes nigga get an old shoe nigga like I was bad boy for life bro you know what I'm saying. You mentioned about holding a a good technique you how someone's supposed to hold the mic because I've seen different artists hold mic different. But it depends on what you're doing. As a comedian or as an MC you hold it like this so you give it the time to breathe. As a rapper sometimes some people will hold here like let me move this down to dogo. Some people will hold here because so that people can hear what you're saying but somebody is cover the whole thing because as a rapper when you hold it it looks bad you know you're bad man you're swag you know but so kisha cover her part na kuski aji. Some people also hold it like you know the rest I'm coming. Tell me who hold it like this you can hold it differently some people hold it like this but the safest bet as an MC and a comedian you hold it like this so people can hear what you're saying they can also see your face because the minute you're doing this they can't see off of your face so if you're doing facial expressions nobody can see so hold it here keep it here you can talk explain yourself it's easier. You having the mic tattoo on your hand it reminds you of you starting to rap you mean how many years maybe I've been rapping since high school bro like my whole life school I was a rapper that's what I was called MG so my name evolves I was MG from Magana then I went to Makanika MG because in Likwa mimi mekani kwa mi stari so rapping and everything then now from that one now came to Magana so capital M small C then Ghana the one for Ghana but it sounded more international appeal Magana man, Magana, Magana then at some point I was like MGZ so I flipped to MGZ then I started doing dancehall then Kido got up you know back then we were proud to be underground we didn't know that everybody was underground he was driving to be mainstream so he was like matamini underground rapper man Magana man agranda pwa na jihana kwa wenewe magihana oh bina ok MGZ MGana kwa amnoma Makanika na kwa amnoma but that's the much more we get so we meet in places we rap for each other we battle nini nini we win the battles akina British cancel wapi we used to go to those places that's where I met akina Abbas and so all that but that was the life then now when you wanna get mainstream so I decided to switch to dancehall because I'm like I'm going mainstream and then dancehall introduced me to comedy and club shows and everything and here I am of course you are here doing well just to understand what is the most expensive tattoos you have I don't really remember the prizes because now I have another one it's here on my chest this is what one now yes so one two three four ladies ladies it's a time ladies I'll show you a close up yeah live life be kind and be free love good look good feel good and test ever test even better oh god it up live free be kind look good feel good test even better oh god that's normally my slogan I wanna look good that's why I got the gym I wanna feel good that's why I don't want enmity and I don't wanna do people bad I wanna feel good about if I'm eating food I don't wanna say like hey hey na kule food lakini kumise amelia maali no no no no I'm eating this food because I've worked hard for it so I wanna live good then I wanna look good and then while I do that because what I put in my body as a temple of the lord when it comes out I test even better yep self love is not being selfish at times but people at times always self love bro priority oh right you are in the corporate world because sometimes when you go to pitching sometimes when people represent you in proposal they pitch your brand and work with corporate at times maybe people tend to judge people with tattoo maybe did you ever miss out maybe to see a multimillion deal no no no I've just missed opportunities to donate blood sometimes there's some people are very serious with blood donation like I remember when my tattoo was still fresh fresh there was like a blood drive they would not give blood because they said oh you know if you just have fresh tattoo there's that theory but I've not gotten a chance to miss on jobs because of tattoo most of the corporate jobs I do I'm always in a suit you'll not see my tattoos suit or an African then now I don't have too much tattoo I don't look devilish you know there's too much tattoo yes you've never missed an opportunity when they see your tattoos no not really maybe ladies when they see your tattoos they think you're a bad boy that's true but wait a minute alright okay yeah so what's that now see bad boy bad boy vibes like you know me bad boy but ladies love bad boys yeah now that's the thing that happens so sometimes you give a personality or an image of a bad boy but you are not and then when the lady realizes when it comes to kumakuliwa dem yeah so it's true what's true people judge when people see you with tattoos when you see a lady with a lot of piercings you normally judge them and the thing is I've met people with tattoos covered all over their body people with piercings all over their body and they've been the most beautiful people with the most beautiful souls and I've met people with no tattoos and they're the most devilish people most of them I've met all kinds of people and also I've met people with tattoos who are also very bad and I've met people who who don't have tattoos who are also very good it cuts across there's a split in the divide but most of the time when you have a tattoo people always fast it's like when you have a rasta then you twist your face then you have a rasta when are you planning to have a next tattoo I know you're not planning to have a kid right now so the next tattoo I'm having I want to put the dates of birth for my kids because I keep forgetting but you don't have the birth certificate I have but I've told you I'm not good with numbers trust me the only four numbers I know is for my dad because he's had it since I was born the same number he was selling when Airtel was still being called cancer so yeah the same number 24 so that one I remember my ID number and my phone number my second phone number I just crammed it juicy because my first phone number was shadow band was blocked on whatsapp so I had to use my second number so I had to cram cram cram cram cram cram cram then I mastered it so those are the only numbers that I remember off head in my date of birth and you impress a pin of course yeah impress a pin that's fair yeah yeah so those are the only numbers that I remember I don't even remember my mum's phone number and my mum is my personal person cram it I'm just like men so I normally try if something is not coming I don't force it so there's a backstory to that I'll not get into it today but sometimes if you get too deep into you get in a different zone maybe I might have done interview some about a conversion that happened awhile ago but so I normally don't remember so I'm like it's every... it's me it's me territory so I'll go check I check on... I got my phone there So I just want to put them here, so when you just look, I'm like, ah huyuni huyuni huyuni huyuni huyuni huyuni huyuni But personally I don't see the big deals about the birthday because for my kids I think every day is their birthday When they're with me, we'll do whatever I want, we'll have a good time So I don't have to buy your cake on your birthday, I can buy your cake any other day Provided we control it so you don't have issues with eating a lot of junk So I'm doing that, then I want to do a tribal, like the one the rock has I want to do a full tribal on one side, I haven't decided if it's this side or it's this side But mostly it'll go, I just love it, it looks very nice Like I want to do, problem is I'm black bro, I'm black That's the thing man, I'm going to do this thing and nobody's going to see nothing They're like, you have a tattoo, we're going to tribal, we're going to skin disease So I'm going to do a tribal, it's going to come up to here I'm still gathering the courage to do it The bones, no Bro, I have many problems now, man is not one of them These bones here Okichoruata rupenye kuna bone amam fupa mamishipa Bro, taimbayesu ni buwana So these bones here coming ata hapa Inu na nipiwa siwa si, ukuna unas kia ni kaskini na ruka These ones we can always try and manage somehow But that's the only problem I have, but I want to do a tribal tattoo so bad Then now the problem is I always do all my tattoos in one day Like when I was doing this one, is when I was doing this one Misako, like so you're just doing phases, you're just coming on Me I don't want to deal with my problems I normally like phase my problems, I handle them now Shit, he's the fan, then I'm like yes We're done with that, let's focus on the next problem Just to wind up, just to understand Because tattoos, people say, most of the people, we've seen it online It comes with side effects One becomes addicted to tattoos And then there are other stories that lead to cancer Or it comes with it Just to teach those guys that have tattoos Maybe those are planning to have tattoos Okay, the side effect of tattoos is it's Na tumia pesa, a lot of money Then also it's painful When it's being put But some people never feel the pain Some people's nerves are kidogo They're neurons kidogo asifani kazi So there's that part Then also the cancer story I don't know how it's been proven I haven't really researched it, I already have tattoos So if maybe I'm going to have it, maybe I don't know So there's that part Then also the downside is people judge you differently When you have tattoos, then they're very addictive You'll always want to add another tattoo It's like having a fine girl You'll always want another Fine girls are for keeps Fine girls are for keeps, but now you find another fine girl Have you ever realized that When you have a fine lady Is when you see other fine ladies Like, how are you? Then when you got nobody And nobody wants you bro You got no one to take care of I'm right here, mayday Nobody's like, SOS Blackhawk, damn They're younger Then you get somebody now So that's something If you get a fine girl Maybe you get someone you've always been wishing to To have in your life Or you ever maybe dare to have Your wife name At a tattoo of your wife name On your body, maybe your face Ambare Ambare is married and taken already Yeah, but I will never say never So the only person I can tattoo their name On my skin Ambare Aziad Okay Why Ambare first? Bro, you've not seen Ambare? Ambare me block Oh wow I like block, what did he do? She's like the most kindest person I know She's your friend, no no no I've never interviewed Ambare I've never interviewed Ambare No no no Maybe Ambare is petty No she's not You guys just don't understand I don't know maybe you're one of the people Who spoke bad I think I don't know why she's blocked I think maybe She's not that type of person Trust me, she's a very different person From the people Try to find out maybe I don't know the reason She's a very good person So Ambare is first? Yeah, because So full spec Then she's light skin I'm not saying daksin ladies are not fine They are very fine but Ambare Then there's Foyna She's also full spec And Then there's Aziad She's Luya bro Like you give her some food You're good to go No but you've not seen Aziad She's full spec She's learned I think it's an MMU No, it went to Kenyamas Kenyamas, she went to Kenyamas She's learning She's entrepreneurial She's very flexible She's She's How do I describe It's gorgeous No gorgeous, a lot of women are gorgeous I know too many women that are gorgeous I can name them for me until Timbuktu But there's something There's something No, she's just a person She looks like if she's easy with you She's the type of person you'll never be bored being around You know the person that you choose to have in your life Is a person who is full vibes Ku dance, me dance, me kula, me fanyani Ni me travel, like full vibes Nusimu niyata kubo Kwa niyata kubo kwa zileza Nini ni umeni peya You realize which craft is real Nini ni umeni pelekana Nini ni kana za pelekana vizuri Any more additional maybe There are too many bro The list is too long I can propose a name Pretty vision Why are you laughing Onaju ha I try Like I said I'm trying to be more Positive side this year Like I don't want to throw shade on anybody But pretty vision is not my type And not my spek That's what I would say and we are With all due respect She's She's fine to Steve Osipa boy And the likes, not to me Can you pay someone maybe to have A tattoo over your face or your name Myself, there's a lady who has a tattoo of my name Yeah No, my ex My ex is a Shamba I just use to go to another kuru I don't know what to say Yeah bro, he's got time He'll be here any time He'll be here any time Look at your exes you're like what the hell My ex is a luxury He has a tattoo and everything But some of my exes have I don't know I don't know I don't know But some of my exes have Tatuile sasa ila wezi futa Ya kaza Ya, yo ni tatuza sasa wezi futa Bikus kumifanyas yes My son's mother was done for the CSC Like when a juivi Ya, then That's it, Obina thank you so much For your time and for inspiring us For talking to us regarding our new show The story behind the tattoo That was very inspiring And they learned something from you Because you are a father figure You have a role model too many And I hope so Maybe I'll get a chance to see you next tattoo I'm a father figure and I'm a father You know you can be a father figure You can be a father figure and you're not a father But you can be a father and you can be a father figure also Thank you for hosting me Guys thank you for supporting everything I do Let's keep the dream alive about inclusivity Thank you