 Right, we are back for the very exciting second edition talking about the law of one with Mr. Fox and Bryce from Esoteric Atlanta and Bryce and I are co-hosting this episode like we did with the first one. But before we get started, let's start with Mr. Fox. How are you doing, Mr. Fox? I'm doing great and I really appreciate you having me on again. We're so looking forward to it. How are you doing, Bryce? I'm so excited. I'm so appreciative that Mr. Fox decided after many years of me begging him to come on, the channel started coming on and talking about this stuff because as I was saying before we started filming, the stuff that Mr. Fox has shared with me over his years and years and years of research has actually brought me a lot of peace during this time of huge transformation for our world as we start to move up as they say harvest and I've noticed from some of our comments a lot of people are very nervous because of the craziness and that I think hopefully Mr. Fox coming on and talking about this will bring some peace to people and give them a starting point to do their own research as well into this theory, this philosophy. So yeah, I'm excited. Fantastic. Now for those of you that are watching this one for the first time, both Bryce and I on our channels will have the link below to the first episode that we did to Mr. Fox. You don't have to listen to them in orders, but I really strongly suggest you listen to both because we're not going to repeat what we covered last time because this is such a fascinating and interesting subject that's got so much relevance to what we're all going through at this moment in time as you were saying Bryce, that we don't we want to get through in this series as much as possible. So when we're using terminologies, if it says anything you don't understand, please either put notes in the comments, but before we do that go back and listen to the first one because we might have covered it there. So today we are going to start with the really, really important subject of trying to understand in more details the different densities Mr. Fox. So let's start there and let's hand it over to you. Okay, great. Yeah. So I'm going to try to run through the evolutionary process of a planet and how that impacts our experience here and what we're experiencing now in the world. And so I wanted to start out by quoting one of the answers to a question posed to Ra and that'll help us move down the path of through all the different what they call densities a planet goes through during its evolutionary cycle. So Ra was asked about their history going back as far as they can remember. And Ra said the path of our learning is graven in the present moment. There is no history as we understand your concept. Picture, if you will, a circle of being we know the alpha and omega as infinite intelligence. The circle never ceases. It is present. The densities we have traversed at various points in the circle correspond to different characteristics of cycles. Logos and logos is this a spirit, the innermost spirit of you could say a galaxy or a planet. Yeah, so they say a logos has the plan of all densities in potential completion before entering the space time continuum of first density. Thus the energy centers exist before they are manifest. And so the planet the logos has already its plan of evolution already laid out. And then it just sits upon the path of going through these different densities. So it starts out in the first density. The cycle of awareness is what they call that. And it lasts approximately two billion years. And during that time of first density, all the beans on the planet, so we're talking about beans as being minerals or the earth and water. And so these beans are in chaos. It's like energy undirected and random. And slowly over billions of years, a focus of self awareness starts to form. So as light comes from the darkness, constructing a certain type of experience, these beans in the first density will eventually gain some form of consciousness. So the mineral and water life upon the planet starts learning through its interaction with fire and wind. And so through these billions of years, this awareness eventually evolves through the water or vapor becoming a sea or a lake or a river. And the minerals sort of forming together and the earth being shaped by all these elements interacting. So it starts to gain a landscape. And during that process, there was like I said, this consciousness is born as well as all these things start to organize themselves. It creates the right environment for a viable life to start to be formed. And then that's what moves us into second density. So after this two billion years of all this interaction with these beans, these minerals and water, then organisms can start to grow. It potentiates. And so organisms grow, plants grow. And out of that, animals are formed. And they have their experience. And that during the second density cycle, that last, that's the longest density in the last four, you know, approximately four and a half billion years long. And so now the plants and animals, these beans are interacting with one another, gaining experience. And they call the second density the cycle of growth. And so the plants grow, the animals grow, they interact with one another. And they get to a certain point of evolution, they start to be able to gain self awareness. And that's when the planet starts to move into third density. And that's the density that we're going through now. And so in third density, they call it, you know, not only the cycle of awareness, but the density of choice. And so now you're becoming self aware. And at that point, you can start to exercise your, your free will. And they say that that that is what is what they call a distortion upon our awareness. So when we moved away from the creator, in a sense, we were given this, this free will. And now in third density, we have to use this free will to choose a polarity. So we can, we can split off and we can choose to serve the light or we can choose to serve the dark. And that choice gives us a path forward or how we're going to find our way back to the creator, either through service to self or service to others. So before we go further, can you just like clarify for the audience that for us as human beings, what you're saying is third density is the first, first stop where a humanoid humans are existing on a planet. So when a planet is just second density, it's only animals and plants. So just so people are aware of animals, plants, minerals, correct. Yes. So that's the difference between like an animal on planet earth right now would be considered a second density, whereas we're a third density because we have a more complex understanding of consciousness than like an animal. An animal is still in that second density understanding of consciousness, which is why they're so innocent really is because they don't have the complex understanding that we do, correct? Right, correct. That would be an interesting discussion because I know there's a lot of people that would have a different view of that. But yeah, carry on. Yeah, right. And you know, we do have some third density animals living with us in third density. Also, you know, a landscape can be a third density being a mountain can be a third density being. I was just having a conversation with with some another day about Mount Kalash, and it's considered a sacred, a very sacred mountain. And a lot of third density being attention has been put on that on that mountain, they say when a third density being puts a lot of their self awareness onto something like a mountain, it has the potential of becoming a being. And so, yeah, so some animals can be third density, you know, some landscapes can be third density. And I think we'll realize that more as we as we sort of our veil is lifted. Anyway, I don't want to get off of off of topic. So the density of choice, third density, which is the shortest density, which is 75,000 years long, cut into three cycles of 25,000 years. So we're here to make a make a choice, but not just not just a choice, it has to we have to be putting energy, our awareness towards that choice. So eventually, you have to be conscious of of that that choice you're making to polarize, but they call service to self, or service to others. And so that's just what this third density cycle is for is to make that choice to gain self awareness and to eventually do that self awareness with your free will to choose the path that you would like to what they call polarize on. So eventually, you're putting energy towards either service to others or service to self, and you accumulate enough experience and enough drive and direction and towards that, that you eventually can be what they call harvested into the next density. So I can go a lot of places here. If you two want to ask me some questions about about the third density cycle and and and that aspect of like polarizing, we can clarify just so people understand when we talk about the third density experience, it takes many, many lifetimes of a person coming back and living in the third to kind of work towards that potential of going one way or the other way. And you will not go one way or the other way until you've actually made that choice, correct? No, not correct, actually. Correct. So you know, because Ross, Ross talks about how you have had to have polarized to a pretty good extent on on that path, whether it be positive or negative, to even realize that there is a choice to be made. Got it. So it's almost like you've already reached a certain level of your own just in intuitive nature of doing what you're doing to realize, Oh, I'm making a choice. This is actually, you've evolved enough, you've evolved enough within that choice, within that direction to be able to reach that point where you go, Wow, I'm starting to understand what this is all about. Let's say the service to others path, you could be on a path and you enjoy giving to others, you enjoy helping others, you notice that your profession, you know, or the things your passions have to do with bringing more fulfillment to people's lives, you know, and it can have in many different ways that could be expressed. It's not just that you're, you know, a healer or a yoga teacher or anything like that could be could be so simple, so simple, that doesn't mean working in a soup kitchen, you could be a musician or artist, you know, that brings joy into people's lives. And so, you know, there's a multitude of ways that you can, you can serve others just like there's a multitude of ways that you can serve yourself. Yeah. And so what it said is that both paths, positive and negative, are legitimate paths to merging with the one infinite creator. Okay, so I've got a few questions about this. So first one on the level of awareness of the choice you've got. So I can think just off the top of my head of a few people that are so service to others in their daily actions, what we call really community minded people that heart and soul of the community, but haven't necessarily gone down a spiritual development path. Right. How much actual conscious awareness do people have or is that not the point at all? And the reason I'm asking this is we can get almost caught in that spiritual ego where people think because they've done so much work and studying and they understand the principles, but might not be displaying them in their daily actions as opposed to someone like I've got the most amazing neighbor who's the most selfish to self service to person I can think of, but you know, wouldn't have a conscious awareness of that. Right. The conscious awareness of that doesn't really matter. Right. You can have no spiritual knowledge whatsoever. And still be able to move on in your path of evolution down that path of service to others. Knowledge, knowledge, spiritual knowledge, doesn't equal higher frequency or more light or, you know, even really more spiritual understanding. You know, you can go through your third density cycle and graduate what they call it, graduate into fourth density positive with no knowledge whatsoever. You don't even have to know that you're making that choice. That choice just comes natural through many, many lifetimes, you know, because, you know, just because this planet or a planet in general goes through that 75,000 year third density cycle, you don't have to make it in that 75,000 years. You can go through a whole planet cycle and be reincarnated over and over again for that whole 75,000 year master cycle. And when that planet shifts over to fourth density, whether it be positive or negative, in our case positive, fourth density positive is what this planet's moving into. You'll just be moved. If you didn't graduate to fourth density, you'll just be moved to another planet and you'll experience the same veil over your consciousness. Yeah. And that's another thing is that when you go into third density, you enter into that density with a veil over your consciousness. So, you know, they say, rock explains how there have been planets that have gone into their third density cycle and the inhabitants of that planet, the beings of that planet didn't have a veil over their consciousness. And so, they're in that third density cycle with still, you know, having that fundamental connection with the creator and all of their inherent abilities that would, you know, would normally be granted. I don't know if that's the proper word in fourth density cycle. And what I mean by that is that, you know, there would be no real suffering on that planet. You'd be able to, if there was any issues with your body, you could immediately heal those issues with the power of your mind. You would be able to naturally, you know, there would be no words spoken. You would just telepathically communicate with people. You would be able to do all the, what the yogis would call Siddhis, all the Siddhis you would have, being able to travel anywhere you want telepathically and things like that. And they said that during that third density cycle, you would think that the people would be able to graduate very easily in the fourth density, but actually that wasn't the case because it's friction that makes us grow and that friction comes through having that veil over your consciousness, you know, so you're stumbling around in the dark in a sense. And that creates a more potent learning environment because when the veil is not there, life is so easy. You have no drive to even help others. You're just living in harmony. There's no issues. And so there's no work to be done. And so suffering that creates the opportunity for awareness. And also it's the suffering of others that creates the opportunity to serve. Okay, so I just want to understand that in a bit more detail if I can. So you don't need the veil when you go to fourth density or above because you're either in the positive or negative and therefore say like we're going fourth density positive, there won't be that suffering and therefore you don't need that veil. Is that what you're saying? Yes, right. And that's why after third density, the cycles are a lot longer because like for instance in fourth density, the cycle lasts approximately 30 million years. And so your ability to grow and to refine that growth is found, the greatest potential is found in third density. Of all the densities, you can do more work on your, when I say self, your spirit or your light body. You can do more work in third density because of the inherent friction than you can in all the densities beyond that. Well, it makes sense in a sense. It's almost like resistance training. It's almost like if you do go to like a spinning class, a bike class, you can put more and more resistance on the bike to make it harder to get you stronger. And so when you're coming in, third density is like the density of resistance. So you can come in and get stronger. And that makes sense. You're saying that because we've talked about many people, many souls opting to come back to third density after some runs through other densities to refine things in their soul to go back through the amnesia because of the value that's there or like swim teams, you know, they have what they call drag suits that they will put on. Like if you wear a Speedo bathing suit, you'll put another Speedo on top of it with cuts in it so it catches water. So you can practice with it on so it catches more water to make it harder because that resistance is what's making you stronger. And so if you look at that spiritually, so basically like third density is the last stop of the veil. Once you leave their density, there's no more veil anymore. You're able to see things clearly for how it is. Is that correct? That's correct. Yeah. And that's, you know, and then there's a more refinement of the work in a sense. Yeah. And then, you know, and once so once you move in, once you move into fourth density, then, you know, the process starts where you where you look back over your third density cycles and you start to learn, you start to process all of that potent stuff that you went through. Yeah. And before we go to fourth density, let's back up a little bit and talk about the uniqueness of our third density cycle because it sort of ties back into the extreme other side of what we're experiencing when that's third density cycles that went through the process with no veil. Yeah. Because like I said, it's not just that you're aware that there's a specific type of polarization that you have to gain. It's that you have, you know, the environment that helps to potentiate that. Yeah. And so, so here in our third density cycle, unlike some third density cycles where, where some third density cycles, there's, it's mostly are not all positive moving societies. So you can say that, like, for instance, raw talks about during their third density cycle, you know, 99.9% of everyone was moving to service to others. There was no what they call mixed, mixed harvest, unlike what we're going through, understand? So that it could be mostly positive third density cycle, mostly negative third density cycle, or it can be a mix between the two. And that's the most uncommon is a mix between the two. And that's, that's what we're experiencing now. And that cycle, because we're very close to graduating into a fourth density positive towards the end of a third density cycle that has the potential for mixed polarity. It creates an enormous amount of chaos because it's almost like there's a battle taking place. Yeah. And that's what we're experiencing now. As we get close to shifting over the fourth density positive, all the, all the negative that people trying to graduate to negative have to, have to leave. But until that splits happen, happens, they're going to continue on their path of polarization. They, and they can't, and, and if you, if, if it's someone on the service to self path, especially someone who's far along the service to self path, and, and is aware that they're on that path, they have a deep understanding that they'll never surrender because it, because their ultimate goal, the ultimate goal of fourth density service to self is conquest over other selves. It's the, the polar opposite of the positive path. We're looking to serve others as best we can. They're looking to enslave. That's the conquest. They're looking to enslave. Yes. Uh-huh. Yes. I want to just clarify that with people because there's a lot of misunderstandings where people say, oh, the controllers have surrendered. It's just a movie. And I'm, no, that's not true because for them to surrender would depolarize them. So that's, that's not at all true. Can we talk a little bit about that so people really understand this? Right. Yes. They have to, to be on a negative, to be on the service to self path is actually a more difficult path to be on is, is what Ross says because you have to, you have to gain 90, 95% polarity towards service to self to be able to graduate service to self. So that's why they do the wicked things they do. Exactly. Yes. They can never, they can never they can never give up. They'll fight it to the very end. And, and that's not just, that's not just because of wanting to polarize. That's also in someone on the path of service to self. They, they lack an ability to foresee their ultimate destruction. And that's because they lack, they lack the, the intuition, the creativity of the higher, of the higher centers to be able to to have that foresight. And that's another reason why they would never, they would never let themselves even entertain them being defeated. Yeah. They'll fight to the very end. And it's almost, it's almost like martyrdom. But in the negative, in the negative sense, I mean, raw and both raw and the Cassiopeans have talked about how, how martyrdom is not a positive attribute. Yeah. And so they're, in a way, they're, they're willing to be destroyed on their path of service to self. Yeah. So to think that, that the quote unquote controllers of this planet are the ones that would like to control because they're really not in control, but the ones that would like to control this planet. So if they're in that situation, would they not, when they eventually leave their current human body, would they just go to either another third density planet or fourth density negative planet? Right. They would, they would either, if they haven't, if they haven't graduated in, into fourth density, then they would go to another planet. Yeah. Or they graduated, they would go to a, they would go to another third density planet. And if they did graduate, they would go to a fourth density negative planet. So you can see why in a way they're quite happy to, you know, even if this is not at a conscious level, you can see why they're not going to give up because either way they're going to go somewhere, they're not going to be taken off. Well, I've got a couple of questions about this and answer them in whichever order you want to, Mr. Fox. So the first one is if this is the case, then how does that fit into so many different traditions, spiritual practices where they are really seeking to understand? So for example, the Hermetic Principles or something is my first question. And then the other question relates to animals. If animals are most of them second density. Yeah. Okay. So I didn't quite, I didn't quite understand the first question. Well, the first question, we were talking about a bit earlier about how you don't necessarily have to have that conscious spiritual knowledge to be going in the positive surface to others self. So why do so many people spend so much time and effort on the pursuit of spiritual awareness and enlightenment? Because I mean, that is, you know, gaining spiritual knowledge through different religions and different practices, you know, it definitely helps you along, along the path of realizing, you know, your inherent oneness with the creator and, and also teaching you, you know, different ways of thinking and acting out in the world that brings more peace and harmony, you know, both your life and other lives, you know. And so there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with, with, with these spiritual, you know, disciplines or our beliefs, you know, if, and so, you know, they are important and you can, you can graduate, you know, to a fourth density before, before the planet does, you know, as a whole. And so, you know, when there's some spiritual teachings like in Hinduism, talk about, you know, the ending of your reincarnations. Yeah, what they're talking about is your ending of reincarnations within the third density cycle. Yeah, you know, and I think that that's where, you know, you know, as I become, you know, as I gained greater understanding through raw material in the Cassiopeans, I've started to realize, you know, the, maybe the, the half truths that are presented in some of these, some of these religious texts, you know, like they talk about in Hinduism, you know, gaining through these practices, these yoga practices, gaining enlightenment, and then, you know, you don't have, you don't experience any more births or depths and they make it seem as though you immediately merge with the Creator and it's done. Yeah, you've gained enlightenment, and that's it. But I think that, that where we're making a mistake is that not understanding the different densities we have to go through, through our, you know, vast spiritual journey. And so, I think they're, when they're saying becoming enlightened and not be, you know, and ceasing to be reincarnated, they're just talking about moving into the fourth density cycle. And so, you can say that maybe all of these religions, all these spiritual teachings are just to help us along that path to graduate in the fourth density, positive. Yeah. Yeah. And so, we get so negative. No, religions are bringing you positive. Some are taking you negative. That's true. I want to say they talk about, they talk about heaven. And I think that they are what they're talking about as fourth density positive. Yes. Yeah. And I was thinking too, as you were saying that, Mr. Fox, because we actually talked about this this morning before we jumped on with Catherine, you said something about how like before the Great Await, I had, for my case specifically, I had done so much spiritual work before the Great Awakening happening that it hit me differently. And as you were saying that I was thinking, okay, same thing with the raw material, because I had done so much spiritual work on my own through yoga in India before I even was introduced to the raw material. I had a deeper understanding immediately when you started talking to me about the law of one. And I don't know if I would have had that same understanding if I had not participated. So I think for every person, all these spiritual practice are just tools that are bringing you to the same understanding. And I think it just depends on the person, karmically, what's going to help them. Is that kind of what you're saying, Mr. Fox? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, whatever practices resonate with you at that time, you know, helping you along the path to, you know, or helping you make a choice. Yeah. Those different ways to get there. Yeah. So on that note, if someone has graduated false density positive, would they leave this earth plane if they're on a third density planet? You know, could you still physically living in your body and be false density at the moment? I do think I believe that that's so. And I believe that that's what we would call these ascended masters, you know, these, these people that have reached, you know, what some would say enlightenment, you know, and yeah, you can, you can choose to, to stick around and they're finished living your life out. And, and you can move. I think that, you know, after you pass away, you can choose to either stick around this planet and, and help others sort of in spirit form in a sense, or you can choose to move on to another fourth density planet and live out your fourth density experience there. That's, that's. So to clarify, that's how I understand it. So let's not talk about this timeline, because I know that's very different. And we can talk about how we're going to be writing it with the earth, which is very different than what most people experience. But let's just say like the, it's like 1930 or something. And we want to hear grandparents all of a sudden reaches fourth density positive awareness. But they're only like 40 years old. So you're saying they're not going to drop dead right then and just move on to the next planet. They're going to get the opportunity to finish their natural life. And when they pass away, then they'll be able to make the choice to stick around in spirit form to help from the other side of the veil, or just move, move on to the next incarnation into fourth density positive. Is that what you're saying? Yes, they don't just drop dead immediately when enlightened hits or else I don't know if many people would be taking on a spiritual practice, you know, yeah. I think they're usually end up being teachers and they'll teach, you know, for the rest of their lives, you know, that's probably the way that they would choose to serve others. Yeah. So let's talk about the animals issue then. So if most animals, some are third density at the moment living on this planet, but a lot of second density, which means that they're not haven't got to the level of three well, is that correct? Right. Yeah. So I can the second density animals, have they got to then because there's so much, you know, information, you know, so many people are so interested about what animals are going to be with us on the fourth density positive planet. So how does that work? Do they talk about that at all? Yes. And I'm trying to recall, I think the Cassiopeans talk about it as well. For one, when this planet shifts over to fourth density, they can they can either choose to stay or leave. Yeah, some of your your animals could come with you. Yeah. And also, you know, we have when we have animals that we bring that we have that are very close to us, we, we share our third density consciousness with them. And we, we envelop them with our third density consciousness, and it actually potentiates their ability to graduate into third density beings. And so if that were to case, if that were the case, if your animals were potentiated enough through you enveloping them, they would have to go to a third density planet and go through their third density cycle. But if there are second density, they haven't potentiated enough to become third density, then for what I understand, they can choose to come with us, to stay with us. Robbie better, Robbie better be choosing to go with me because of your eyes. There will be. So, so that's a good question that leads into this whole, and some of the fourth density stuff we can start easing into is that, you know, through this planet is going to be newly fourth density, you know, so it's being birthed as fourth density. And the beings that are going to be here that are graduating from this third density cycle into fourth, that's so the only, the only beings are going to be the live on this planet are first, second and fourth, because the third density beings leave because we, as new fourth density beings, don't haven't developed the ability to hide ourselves from third density. And we can't interfere with third density beings because we don't want to interfere with their, with their free will. And so all third density beings that haven't graduated the fourth have to vacate. So how does that fit with the role of a teacher then? So if you know, so we're talking about we've got loads of people who, who teach a lot of the lessons that they've learned to more everywhere it might be. So how does that differentiate with the concept of free will? Where's the line in the sand with that? Because you're saying a fourth, a fourth density graduated enlightened master staying here and teaching third density beings. Is that what you're saying? Well, even on the third density, you've got third density beings teaching other third density beings. So surely a sort of learning. Well, we, okay, so talk about the mass formation psychosis and the brain washing and things like that. That, that surely massively interfering with free will. So that would have anyone who's participating in that would by the very nature be on the negative surface to self-path. Yes, for sure. That's how they're enslaving people. Yeah, so that's the enslavement is the hypnosis they're doing. But ultimately, people at the end of the day had their choice to eventually be aware enough to break free or, you know, observe the triggers that we talk about a lot. Like really, oh, I'm triggered that I need to observe something. I mean, we see that we not only see that from the left, we also see that happening in our community too. And so yeah, and I was with the teachers, I was thinking too, the free will choice of going to a teacher or not as well. I was going to say, clarify is one of the reasons why it's important for those graduating the fourth density cycle that they're respecting the free will of third density, that's part of service to others. Yeah. And so it's not a part of fourth density service to sell. So that's another reason why we would have to respect that, that veil. So would that also cover things like, you know, sort of what we eat when we're in fourth density? Talk about the positive ones. We know what people we do know about the people who are on the surface to sell the reading and we won't go there in this. And I'm not laughing because it's funny. I'm laughing through about through awfulness. Yeah. Sorry, Mr. Folks, you're talking about this the other day. Yeah, about the rapids, Mr. Folks. I don't think we're going to be eating rabbits in fourth density. We do have to eat. And it was, it's interesting because eating in fourth density is actually helps us to learn and they say that eating in fourth density teaches us patience because we're so deeply involved with the service of others that we have to be patient to step away and feed ourselves. Yep. And I'm sure, you know, whatever we consume will do no harm because in fourth density positive, there can be no disharmony. Isn't that wild though? I mean, so many people, we make jokes about the numb, numb, numb wanting to eat, loving to eat. But when we're in fourth density, it's not even, it's literally going to be eating to live. And that's it. Like we're going to have to pull the way to actually sit down and eat something because we're going to be so engrossed in what we're doing for other people and our own numb. But you said something interesting too. I want to, because we were out, Mr. Fox, we're taking a walk the other day. And you said like at the first couple of thousand years in our mind cycle of time, when we get to fourth density is really us recovering from third density, correct? Yeah. It's recovering and it's processing everything that's happened to us. And then through all our lifetimes. And then it's all of all the fourth density beings on the planet pulling all of their experiences together. And us coming to an understanding of our third density experience as a whole. And that creates what's called a social memory complex. So eventually what we all do is first process everything we've experienced personally, and then experience everything everyone else has experienced personally. And so we imagine the massive learning experience from that. So that harmonizes our third density as a whole. And that's where we all come together. And that's why there can be no disharmony is because we're all become one in what they and what rock calls a social memory complex. So then from there, we all make decisions together. And we all move together and imagine how much can be done. So that's what they mean when they talk about unity consciousness. Right. So Mr. Fox, we have a lot of questions about med beds. And Catherine and I talked about this yesterday. And of course, I put up an Instagram story a couple days ago saying like your your body is actually the med bed that you seek. I don't actually really believe in this this as you call it the junk conspiracy cul-de-sac that we get so distracted by these abstract things that we we stop doing our work. We stop focusing on our spiritual path because we think that there's something coming to save us like a med bed. And you said something very interesting off camera. Can you tell us your perception of the med bed when we jump into fourth density positive in the next like 20 to 30 years as as you were saying, can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, well, okay, so as we move into fourth density positive, and our veil is lifted, we have the ability to spontaneously heal ourselves. And so there'd be really no need for any med beds. You know, so in my understanding of where we are in this cycle, you know, we're now, you know, closing closing down this third density cycle and just about to move into the fourth density positive. And, you know, from what I understand within the next, you know, 20, 30 years, this is going to happen. And so given that understanding, this fact this infatuation with this med bed stuff is, is a little comical because, you know, for me, and what I've the understanding that I've gathered through both the Cassiopeans and the raw material is that, you know, when this veil is lifted, like I said, we're going to have the ability to heal ourselves. And, and so there will be no need for any kind of technology to help us achieve that. But I think where a lot of people are wanting them is to bridge that gap for the next 20, 30 years. There's a lot of people that are suffering right here right now with terminal illnesses, missing limbs, animals, loved ones that are really ill. So I think a lot of people are wanting them as a building of the, as a bridge to get them to that stage. Does that make sense? Yeah, that does for sure. And I could see, I could see how people can get, get caught in that. And, and, you know, and they could, they could have a lot of, a lot of hope from these, these devices or this technology. But it's because I mean, I heard a lot of talk about it, but I haven't seen any, any, any proof. Well, there are miraculous healing things available. And what some of the interviews that I listened to, Mr. Fox, where they were interviewing them about the technology of the healing technologies of the pyramids. And some of Ra's answers, if I recall correctly and correct me if I'm wrong, were that actually, we don't need the crystals. We don't need to go back to the pyramids healing because we have the ability right here right now, which would tie in with the fact that I understand that people want the med beds as a gap. But actually, perhaps by the focus on that, they're not realizing that those healing technologies are available right here right now with what we've already got. Would that make sense? Yeah, totally. And, and, you know, also, you know, there's, there, as we get closer to the end of this, this third density cycle, it's, you know, all the suffering that we see through, you know, how our food has been depleted, our environment has been has been polluted, so on and so forth. That's part of the ending, like I said, of this mixed harvest third density cycle. And what it's doing is it's really just, it's offering people more opportunities to serve others. Yeah. So, so, so things intensify, suffering gets increased, chaos gets increased, because it's being offered as opportunity to serve. So instead of waiting around for things to happen, like med beds, or you know, what have you, maybe figuring out how people that are of ill health can help people that are suffering, and whatever way they can. And that's interesting. I had a question or comment about, you know, because people, I think what happens is people have this false sense of hope that this is all a movie and it's just actors, which is complete bullshit to me, that's complete. And we talked about this in the last episode with you, Mr. Fox, that part of what the fourth density negative does is they try to infiltrate like a Trojan horse. So we know that the quote unquote truth or community has been heavily infiltrated, because that's what the negative side does. And so when people are now having to face the realization that what they thought was reality is an actually reality, and that the bad guys for lack of a better word are still out there doing their stuff. You know, you've said that they have said that the bad guys will be able to get 80% done of what they wanted to get done before it's pulled. And I choose this person, I'm paraphrasing what they said, like how do you keep the faith when it's just being pummeled at you all the time. And what you're saying is like, this is the opportunity, though. This is the resistance. This is what your soul needed for it to refine itself. And instead of just like feeling sorry for yourself or like giving in to this group, you use that resistance to help others to be even more loving, even more kind. You take the advantage of this time to really hone in on that service to others' practice. Right, yeah. And can we kind of touch a little bit before we end our, I know we've gone about an hour now, but I wanted to make it clear that what we've talked about, Mr. Fox, is that when most planets flip from like third density, or second is the third density, or third density to fourth density, most of the time all the inhabitants of the planet have to get off the planet, correct? That's from third to fourth. Okay. But this is a different situation, right, that we're in now? Well, it's unique in that since it's been such a tough 75,000 year third density cycle for this planet, there's going to be very few people that are going to be graduating either fourth positive or negative. That's then that's where the wanderers come in, the sixth density wanderers that have decided to come here and to help lighten the planet and in hopes of a greater amount of people making the choice moving into fourth density positive. Because there's a very few amount of people are going to be graduating negative as well. You would think like, oh, this planet's mostly negative, but actually, it's mostly positive. And we have a hard time seeing that because a lot of the positive oriented people that may not be able to graduate into fourth density positive, but definitely are on that positive path have had their consciousness sort of tweaked a little bit and have sent them in a state of turmoil. And so from the outside, it would look that like this person is on a negative path, when in reality, they could actually be a spiritual soul in distress, because both the positive distress soul and a truly negative soul in a way can seem very similar. It's also to I want to clarify as well, when we talk about graduating, I think one thing people have to understand is that there is a difference between what you know and what you do. And so I think one of the biggest roadblocks for our community is that a lot of people in this community, I think because they think they know some things about the truths of the world, that they're already guaranteed a ticket into the next timeline, but that's not true. There could be a friend you have that completely buys into the media, but yet they are so service to others in the aspects of their life that they will absolutely be going fourth density positive as well. Whereas there's a lot of people in our community that just because they know a few they know things about what's going on, but they're still acting in very selfish, nasty, disgusting ways. So it doesn't even really matter what you know the facts you know about what's happening. What matters is the essence of your soul. Does that make sense in the essence of your your awareness as a soul? Am I making sense when I say that? Yeah, for sure. So we can't judge people. That's one thing, you know, judge not East GB judge. We can't judge people who've gotten this or who, you know, don't understand the conspiracies, you know, we can't judge them because we don't know they could polarize more positive than we are. You know, does that make sense? Sure. 100%. And I hope the conversation of wanderers is going to open up a whole new episode. Do we want to see? We need to do that. We need to do that in a separate episode. So I think I would hope that from people that have listened today, we can see why it's so important we talk about living your life being in the present moment, actions speak louder than words. So we're seeing a lot of brilliant things spring up about how we you can see they're very clearly moving both the individuals and helping the planet in terms of moving towards the fourth density positive. So some of the examples I would give is some of the amazing regenerative agriculture practices that are springing up and everything. So would you say, Mr Fox, that just reiterating that when people are overwhelmed with the scale of what they're seeing going on, the easiest solution for themselves and everyone else that they love is for them to pour that energy into an activity that is much more self service to others. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. The Cassiopeans even talk about how when you find yourself in a rut, whether it be in a business sense in your profession or it be in the sense of just being being spiritually stuck is that the best way out of that is to turn your attention towards someone else and help them. And that's what helps you get out of your rut. And there's so much evidence even some areas of modern medicine are showing that that you know the best treatment for depression, for example, is to actually get involved in some community activity and helping others and that sort of clinically proven. So there's so much of this pulling together that I think gives people real hope that they can really enjoy this sort of 20 to 30 year transition period, regardless of what your current state of health is, your current state of wealth is, etc. Because when you're just focused on the service to others, a lot of the bits of the jigsaw puzzle will fall into place. Right. Totally. Serving others can also be serving animals like people that like Catherine who loves going and giving your time to to a humane society or you know helping because that is that's one thing I will say whenever somebody loses their pet, when their pet passes away, I don't even like she's a word pet, whatever their animal family member passes away. I always like to remind you say, well, you know, you did your job, you enveloped them with so much love, you gave them a name, you gave them a family, you taught them self identity that that because of you, they now have the opportunity to graduate into their density and start that it was because of your love, you enveloping them. And that that when you told me that we first started talking about a lot of when you told me that about with with the animals you have in your when you start to really love them and share the life experience of a third density because you I mean you think about Ravi Ravi is a street dog from India. Like he if he was still on the streets of India, he would not have the awareness of the third density experience that I have here in Atlanta because I buy him being in my home. He is experiencing that and his little personality is coming out. He knows how to make me laugh. He knows how to show off. He knows how you know. And so you're giving your by you unconditionally loving this being, you are giving it that ability to you know, that's and that's such a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing. And it's like we get enveloped as their density. We get enveloped by fourth density loving beings as well. And so it's all about loving and giving of yourself to another being with the soul as an animal has. And so I know Mr. Fox, we've joked about Robbie being 2.7 density. We're like he's 2.7 density. He's he's he's so he's so close to like having full on conversations. And you know, and so how beautiful that experience is. It's it's such a big having an animal on your home is such a beautiful experience anyway. Because no other being is going to just love you without real judgment. You know, they don't care if you're rich or poor. They don't care if you live in a mansion or not. You know, they're still just they just want to be with you. You know, and that's something for us to learn and return from them. But just to have that moment just to really love your, you know, that is part of that certainly we see what awful people do to animals all the time. We see what people on the service to sell due to animals. And so even giving of your time to other, you know, to the homeless shelters of animals, you know, you know, I'm saying it's not just going, it's whatever makes you feel like you are a service to this time for the beings on the planet at this time. And so I'm thinking, though, next episode, we should do wonders in the hierarchy of the negative side. Would that be because that's kind of now we get the hierarchy of the negative side and the wonderers. Now we're talking about because wonderers only come from the positive side. So we can talk about like, I mean, there there have been there have definitely been negative wonders, but but they're they're not as common as as service to others wonders. Because it's something very selfish or selfless to be like, you know what, I'm going to go back down to that hot mess express point to everyone who's got animals in their lives. If we go back to what Mr. Fox was explaining right at the start of this, go back and we listen to the difference between the different densities. And one of the important things of moving through those densities is choice and free will. So when you bring an animal into your family, and you start to give that animal a choice in their care and listen to their feedback, then you can see why that's so so important to them. So I just wanted to make that point to everyone because so many people don't realize that their animals have got the right and need that choice and need to exert their free will as much as we do. That is fascinating, absolutely fascinating. Anything else that you want to finish with, Mr. Fox, before we finish this one? No, I think that completes it for now. We get into a lot of different areas. But yeah, let's stop there. So excited about getting on to the one choice next. That's going to be absolutely brilliant. Anything else for you, Bryce, before we finish? I will put in my I know we're both going to be sharing this, but I will obviously be putting our first episode with Mr. Fox down in the description box below. I'll also be putting a link to the first book of the raw material, because as always, I think Catherine and I are big promoters. We're just discussing this right now. That's all we're doing. It's up to you if you really want to start to embrace this philosophy, get the books for yourself. Mr. Fox was telling me, what were you telling me the other day, Mr. Fox, that you were on the Cassiopean board and you saw somebody joined? Something about you? About watching one of your videos where you were interviewing me and how that's how they got directed to being a part of their forum discussions. So yeah, guys, so whatever that was, thank you for mentioning us and we want you to take your, you know, again, we're on the path of service to others. We want you to have your free will choice. We don't want to be your controller. We don't want you enslaved to what we say. We want you to take this information and do your own research, make up your own opinions, come to your own conclusions, and take your power back. And hopefully, as you guys go down this road of really looking at the law of one, it will give you, hopefully, it will give you the same liberation and peace that it brought for people like myself. So yeah, what else? And for my channel, Catherine, what's going on with your channel? What's new for you? For people watching this from my channel? Yeah, exactly the same. All the links will be below. Enjoy, absorb, re-listen a couple of times. I've certainly re-listened the first one a couple of times and each time I've got more and more out of it. And just think about, you know, if that clicks something else into place that perhaps it doesn't, all the little bits of the jigsaw puzzle for us to ponder over. Thank you so much, both of you. We will be back in a couple of weeks. Bye, guys. Bye.