 Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Bienvenidos a esta edición de breaking news. Soy Bernice Levine. La conferencia continúa. Y como estamos hablando, sonido de roca-siren once again en varias comunidades del sur, cerca de la zona de guerra, sonido de roca-siren, como hablamos en Storot, ahora mismo, que es cerca de la zona de guerra, un desarrollo recurro para las personas viviendo en esa parte del país, indicando que los roca-siren aún son enviados de la gaza contra ciudadanos civiles y ciudadanos en Israel. Vamos a ir a la comunidad en el grano para updates regulares, así que estén en contacto con I-24 News. Ahora, en las semanas de la guerra, algunos comentadores americanos deciden que el presidente Joe Biden su apoyo a Israel fue lejos de él por reducir su acción entre demócratas. Desde entonces, Polín ha pintado una más complicada imagen. Pero, como su señor correspondiente diplomático Owen Altman explica, el presidente Joe Biden cree que la guerra no será un gran factor en el próximo año. Vamos a verlo. La pregunta es si estas fotos van a importar. Presidente de la USA Joe Biden reabriga Israel en la guerra en Gaza en el fallo de 2023, con el set de clock-down para el fallo de 2024, y Biden su apoyo para la reelección. We will continue to have Israel's back as you work to defend your people. We'll continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy to innocent civilians. Claims about the impact of the war on Biden's election chances are likely exaggerated. The election is a year away. News cycles will have spun onward from the scenes in the Gaza Strip. And very few Americans have seen the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a voting issue. Focused instead on the economy, immigration, and the potential clash between Biden and Donald Trump. In pockets of the electorate the war could matter. One that gets attention. Arab American voters in the swing state of Michigan. About 3% of the state's population who in a close tally could swing the state away from Biden. He continues to side the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of humanity. And so I think come 2024 it will be very difficult for him to come to a mosque or come to a church where Arabs pray and to ask for their support. Of course the war could well matter for Israel standing among Americans in the long term. Polling is mixed on how Americans feel at this stage. And the war is not over. But a war this momentous is bound to have an impact. A lot. Is at stake. Meanwhile in his most recent comments President Joe Biden reiterating that this war will end when Hamas no longer has capacity to murder Israelis pointing out that the terror groups leaders have said publicly they will keep doing the same thing again and again. Let's take a listen. With regard to when is this going to stop? I think it's going to stop when Hamas no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and just do horrific things to the Israelis. And they still think at least as of this point they still thought they could. Hamas said they plan on doing the same thing again with what they did on the Senate. They're going to go in and they want to slaughter Israelis. They want to do it again. And they've said it out loud. They're not kidding about it. They're not backing off. And so I just asked a rhetorical question. I wonder what we would do if that were the case. Five, six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful in getting hostages released and have a period of time where there's a pause long enough to let that happen. So how does President Joe Biden know about the Hamas plans to keep on committing massacres like the one on the 7th of October? Take a listen firsthand to Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas member talking to an Arabic television channel. Estounding to hear it out loud for more. We welcome to studio Ben Joriamini, senior journalist from the Idiot Ahronaut Daily. Ben Jor, thank you so much. I want your take on Joe Biden, his stance, his support but before we even get there I just heard Hamas outlining in a public television interview that the massacre that happened on the 7th of October is something they would do again and again and again. Where is the outrage around the world when you hear that kind of rhetoric? You know, when you ignore what the Hamas is saying the outcome is that nobody is outraged. For example, they did not say only in the last 40 days of war, 42 days of war. They are saying it again and again for many years now. I'm following them something like 20 years and 20 years I hear the same kind of music. They said, they said we have to kill all the Jews and the Christians not only the Jews to the last one of them. I mean they broadcast it, not one time, many times. I mean, and I'm coming back to your question how comes that the world is not outraged? How come the students in Princeton and Harvard and Berkeley are actually demonstrating in favor of what, of who? Of someone who is telling we are coming to kill you. We are coming to kill you and they say, oh, we are supporting you. I mean, is the world is getting crazy? Yes, the answer is yes. Some of the students, some of the scholars, some of the faculty members, I mean, they brainwashed themselves, they brainwashed the students with this kind of Israel is a colonial apartheid state. Come on. Come on, what are you talking about? My grandfather and grandmother who arrived to Israel more than 100 years ago they were colonialists. They were refugees. They had to escape Yemen. Most of the Jews who arrived to Israel were refugees because of pogroms, because of other things. Nobody came because he wanted to be a colonialist. What are you talking about? And they keep on saying, and they keep on saying this kind of theories which are many times are coming also from Israeli scholars. Let's admit it. Even in the Israeli universities you have this kind of school of thought. So to your question, they are brainwashed. They are totally brainwashed. Unfortunately. You know, we hope, we pray, we do whatever we can in order to change it, in order to convince people with facts, not propaganda. Not propaganda. It has nothing to do with political debate which is taking place. Speaking only about facts, it's not simple. What's so extraordinary about it is we've just played the Hamas leader on television outlining their goals. Hamas has its own charter which is not a secret. And we keep on talking about the fact that terrorists on the 7th of October filmed the brutal attack so the evidence is there and the evidence is there at the hands of the perpetrators and yet still, as you are outlining, there are students at various campuses in various parts of the world questioning if it even happened, not only students, adults as well. Why is that, Bintro? They live in denial. They live in denial. I mean, it's this kind of phenomena. It's unique. It's unique. You know, we had this kind of peace camp even in the 30s when the Nazis took over. We had it. But it was very marginal. It was very marginal. Now it's not marginal anymore. Yes, okay, we have the majority. The majority of Americans, the majority even in the West still support Israel. We have to put it on the table. We have to remember it. We cannot forget it from one hand. When we are speaking about the elites, it's something else. And what I'm afraid of, that what we see in the first stage by the elites, by the students, by the scholars, with their demonstration, with their support to the Hamas, it might be in the third stage much more public and it might impact the public opinion. That's what we all have to be afraid of. But we have a problem, yes. Certainly there is a problem. How is President Joe Biden doing very briefly in terms of handling this situation, the perceptions around the war? Briefly please. You know what, he's right now because everybody knows him, everybody hears him. He's the best spoke person of Israel, the best one. But not of Israel, of the free world. It's not a war of Israel against the Hamas. It's a war of civilization, the war of the free world against the Jihad, not between Israel and the Hamas. It's a big mistake. And as the leader of the free world, he's doing quite well. Then draw your meaning more to discuss very shortly right now. Let's go to our team in the field. Our correspondent, Pierre Kloschendler, is in southern Israel and just at the top of this hour as we started this segment, Siren Sounding in Storot in the South. What is the latest where you are, Pierre? What update can you share right now? There was two interceptions over our head in Storot. Nothing particular except that we saw the anti-missile missile system, Iron Dome, shooting their missiles against the rockets before we ever heard an alarm or an alert. Usually you hear a voice saying red alert, red alert, but this time you didn't hear anything. You just saw the trace, the white trace in the sky of the interceptors intercepting the rockets. There were two interceptions and that was it. It's very quick. You have only 15 seconds to run for cover, but you have also a very quick episode because those rockets are intercepted within those 15 seconds. Certainly extraordinary and just so bizarre still that it's day 41 of the war and still those rockets are being sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli Civilian Territory. Pierre, what more is known at this hour about the fighting that is underway inside the Gaza Strip? We know that troops have been in the vicinity of Sheva Hospital. What is the latest update? What can you share and what are you hearing from where you are? Well, we hear from time to time the roaring of planes. Usually it's more in the morning than in the afternoon maybe because of the visibility. Now it's becoming a bit hazy. You hear the surveillance drones. You hear the explosions triggered by the artillery outgoing shells or by the air force. There was just behind me very close to the border a huge explosion immediately after the rocket fire. Maybe it was in response to the rocket fire. We don't know where that terror cells launched its rocket. We know that there is a lot of activity around the Indonesia Hospital which is just in my back in the Bedhanun Village because the Indonesia Hospital might be also a hub of Palestinian terror from Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad and there is a lot of bombing around the hospital not on the hospital per se but around the hospital possibly in order to neutralize the terrorists that are positioned around there and there's been we've seen a transport aircraft a C-130 aircraft transport aircraft who dropped flyers near the hospital urging the population to move away from that neighborhood in order possibly to entice the population which is inside the hospital the medical personnel the patients but also people who seek shelter inside the compound to move and join the cohorts of tens of thousands a day that are leaving the battleground on the Salahadin access which is open from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. they still have an hour and 50 minutes to make their way south now in addition to that in addition to the fighting there's humanitarian measures such as a humanitarian tactical pose which just ended ten minutes ago it lasted for four hours in two neighborhoods of Gaza City Shejaia and the Turkmen neighborhood in addition residents from other neighborhoods in Gaza City Tel el Hawa Tufaq al Daraj were also urged to join the Salahadin access and move south to a safer zone and in addition there's been leaflet dropped by aircrafts overnight in Hanyunas especially in the villages east of Hanyunas El Chuda Banisuhela Karaba where the residents also are urged to find shelter somewhere else and that could foretell the enlargement of the ground offensive which started in October 27 and up until now focused on the northern Gaza Strip and Gaza City Correspondent Pierre Kloschengler live from southern Israel We will be coming back to you for more updates in the coming hours Thank you so much Still with me in studio Ben Drogh, Yemini, senior journalist at the Idiot or not Daily and Ben Drogh I want to take a closer look at the political situation here in the country here in Israel Politicians have been at pains to say there's a war on right now let's not get personal I'm paraphrasing for want of a better way of explaining it but we have new comments from opposition leader Yair Lapid the head of the Yashatid Party he is now calling for a new liquid led government without Benjamin Netanyahu and without what he calls extremists let's take a listen and then I'd like your thoughts Netanyahu cannot continue to be the Israeli Prime Minister a national reconstruction government Yashatid will bring about a government like this which the liquid can lead the liquid is the biggest party but we need to start the rehabilitation process he needs to resign right now because we can't afford in terms of our security socially a prime minister that lost the public's trust Ben Drogh, Yemini, is Yair Lapid right? he thinks the public has lost faith in Benjamin Netanyahu yeah well according to all the polls you see I mean from one hand you see unprecedented unity speaking about the people speaking about the other I mean you see so many people volunteer to do whatever is possible and you see this kind of secular people with the Yashiva bookers working together doing together volunteering together which is great which is great from one hand from the other and you see the polls and according to the polls yes most of them there is a majority that want Netanyahu to go home there is a majority and you cannot ignore it yes we are in the middle of a war what can you do in the middle of a war there is a political situation I mean legally you cannot you cannot just fire him it's not now will there be a majority that must include members of the Likud in order to change the political map I don't know what he wanted what he did actually Yair Lapid the head of the opposition he tried to tell members of the Likud we know exactly what you think about Netanyahu we know exactly so it's time to do something for the benefit of the state and why and why and we have a problem when I'm saying we I'm speaking about journalists many of us know a lot of things about how things are run in the cabinet and so on and so many people are not satisfied to say the least I'm not saying any more about the way that Netanyahu is running the whole story so what should we do I mean if we will publish it it will maybe maybe harm the soldiers or the army or you know the self-confidence of the country and then two things to unpack on this round one is what you've already alluded to the fact that the country right now having been politically divided before the war is united in its resilience and in its focus on the existential threat that exists right now and also the fact that there have been great efforts for the war cabinet which is comprised of Benjamin Netanyahu Joav Garland and Benny Gantz and they are giving regular updates sitting together perhaps you could analyze the body language if you want to but at the end of the day the three leaders are making very crucial decisions right now and it's important presumably for the country to see that united front on the leadership front as well yeah well we have to zoom out in order to understand that we have tough decisions it's not only about the hostages it's about Hezbollah about Iran about the cooperation with the united states and in a way a kind of there is something which is going on between Saudi Arabia and Israel I mean but tough decisions are in front of us tough decisions should be decided every moment, every day about a lot of things and so many people I'm speaking about people from all from all walks of politics okay they do not really trust Netanyahu and there are so many stories just like that soldiers that were left out because he came to take pictures with other soldiers I mean what are you doing in the middle of the war you are the prime minister and whatever is important for you is you and your photo photo opportunities I mean what are you doing so from one hand no I don't want to say it even here when I'm speaking to you why do we have to deal with it from one hand from the other and he is dealing with it he is doing it he and his wife yes we know that there is a problem there is a suggestion in recent days that time might be running out for Israel in terms of its perception on the international arena what is your take on that the report said two to three weeks before the global world looks and says enough right now your take on that is that viable it's a highly important question which is also on the table I think there is a solution a very simple solution I mean and I don't understand the cabinet because well I spoke with some members as much as I could from the cabinet I mean why don't why don't Israel initiate a ceasefire not because it's going to be accepted because we have to show the world because so many people do not know about the things that we spoke at the beginning I mean the Hamas is not willing to any ceasefire Hamas is willing only to kill more and more people but why don't we we Israel propose a ceasefire with conditions to free all the hostages you give the condition the Hamas will say no and if it will say yes it will be great but the Hamas is going to say no so Israel will receive much more time we are speaking about public opinion people should know and many people do not know that it's all because of the Hamas not because of Israel so why don't you do it I think it's not clever not to do it so yes there is a problem Israel can solve it unfortunately unfortunately under the leadership of Benjamin Netanyahu right decisions are not always accepted there is an argument that a ceasefire would give time for Hamas to regroup and that would impact obviously the fighting on the ground completely right it's a valid argument what I'm saying is put conditions put conditions they will not accept it they will say no instead of the headlines in the BBC and the CNN that Israel is rejecting any proposal for ceasefire it should be Hamas is refusing for any proposal for ceasefire that's all what I'm saying but yes you are completely right a ceasefire right now when I hear the demonstrators they do not mean what I mean what I mean is with conditions they mean a ceasefire that will let the Hamas just rearm himself Benjor, there is no doubt that what is top of mind for the nation right now is the 239 hostages you are talking about conditions the 239 hostages which we now all know includes babies, children the elderly and they have spent more than five weeks nearly six weeks potentially underground potentially being distributed at various locations across the Gaza Strip while this fighting unfolds being held by the terror group what do you think Israel needs to do right now to make sure that these hostages get home safely you are talking about conditions in a deal we know that the war cabinet is meeting tonight to discuss some kind of hostage deal what do you think it needs to involve yeah I think the first step is to offer a ceasefire for releasing all the hostages it was not done unfortunately what to do now there are so many things to wait to consider it's not simple yes but according to what was published about the deal I would ask the cabinet yes go for it because we have to do something for the families even if it's not all the hostages it's not simple it's a tough decision it's a tough decision but I can tell you that I do not envy the people who are supposed to take the decisions complicated indeed and time is of the essence Ben Droyo Mili stay with us right now we're going to take a look at the latest developments out of London Labour leader Kiyostama has been hit by a string of resignations from his front bench in the House of Commons he's facing a rebellion over his refusal to back a ceasefire in Gaza a vote calling for the ceasefire was defeated by 293 votes to 168 but eight of his front benches resigned after supporting the amendment for the latest reaction let's welcome Phil Dave a broadcaster and producer joining us from the UK Phil I want to start with the screening of the footage of the atrocities of the 7th of October gruesome footage of pure evil and cruelty much of it filmed by Hamas itself we've seen seasoned war correspondence and tears over the depravity what was the response to the screening in London at the same time then vote happening on the same day your takeaways well the fact that the biggest reaction I would say is the fact that we even need to screen this is the reaction I'm guessing you know why is it that Israel needs to somehow justify that these terrorist attacks have actually happened that's the biggest takeaway from all of this most unbelievable if you let's cast our minds back to 2001 when the terror atrocities happened over in America who do you know who was calling on America to actually prove that Al Qaeda had carried out the attack so that's probably sort of what the biggest reaction is here that there are those who look at the footage and they say oh you can do anything with videos in this day and age and they just refuse to believe it whatever happens and naturally there are those who are understandably traumatized by what they've seen because who on earth wouldn't be and then how did that all play into and we're looking at the images on the screen right now but how did all of this the footage that was shown play into the vote that we were talking about a little bit earlier on in the broadcast your takeaways there well it's obvious that sort of it has persuaded enough members of parliament to realize that a ceasefire is not the right course of action I think that there are those who have denied the footage and have sort of almost have also refused to watch it frankly I think sort of for two obvious reasons number one is because they don't really wish to be traumatized by what they've seen but the other side of that coin is that people just sort of say that they don't wish to see it because they don't want to know the truth of what actually happened but fortunately it would appear as though last night in the House of Commons the common sense most certainly did prevail that actually the backing of a ceasefire was quite rightly defeated by a sizeable majority so it would appear as though the MPs in this country are at least still aware of how a ceasefire is really not in the best interest of this particular situation we find ourselves in at the moment intriguing responses out of London very briefly we're seeing these mass demonstrations anti-Israel protests does the scale of this response surprise you briefly please? yeah sure ok really quickly I've spoken to a couple of friends about this there are some who are quite traumatized by the numbers I think the scale of the response doesn't surprise me completely you're always going to get that pocket of people who are always going to be anti-Israel no matter what and then there's going to be a sort of a sheet mentality within society who are always just going to see what certain people are doing and then just follow that particular trend I would say in terms of scale it doesn't surprise me and actually it doesn't worry me because in the grand scheme of things if you think of a country of 67 million people the most we've seen protest is 300,000 in the grand scheme that really is a very small number indeed appreciate your insights as always full Dave live from the UK thank you so much for being on i24 news we're taking a quick break when we get back our breaking news coverage continues two minutes and we're back this is breaking news edition a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where we see as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well back to this breaking news edition I'm Benita Levine and our coverage continues international media coverage of the war continues to spark heated reaction with the BBC airing an apology for broadcasting incorrect information on the IDF operation at the Shifa hospital in Gaza city the hospital is located on top of a Hamas terror command center the BBC had reported that Israeli troops targeted medical teams and Arab speakers instead of the actual facts which was that the IDF forces had included medical teams and Arabic speakers for this operation let's take a listen to the original incorrect coverage from the BBC at this moment we are hearing from Reuters that is reporting that Israel it says its forces are carrying out an operation against Hamas in Gaza's El Shifa hospital and they are targeting people including medical teams as well as Arab speakers they are also saying that Israel is calling on all Hamas operatives in the hospital to surrender at this point once again we are hearing from Reuters that Israel says that its forces are carrying out an operation against Hamas in that hospital that we had just heard of they are targeting as Arab speakers as well as some of the medical staff there and they are asking all Hamas operatives in that hospital to surrender so that was the incorrect information and here is the subsequent apology from the BBC a BBC News as it covered initial reports that Israeli forces has entered Gaza's main hospital we said that medical teams and Arab speakers were being targeted this was incorrect and misquoted a Reuters report we should have said IDF forces included medical teams and Arabic speakers for this operation so we apologize for this error which fell below our usual editorial standards but this version of events was broadcast minutes later astounding so for more here is Chen Mazig Senior Fellow at the Tel Aviv Institute and he joins us from London thank you so much so this BBC coverage obviously sparking much reaction in recent weeks for a range of reasons as well not least of which is that it doesn't call Hamas gunmen who butcher civilians in their homes or at a music festival terrorists given that how surprising is this latest factually incorrect reporting I mean it's it's surprising and it's shocking but in the same time it shouldn't surprise us from even before the war broke the BBC had a clear anti-israel band which they never hide it started with reporting inflated numbers from Hamas of casualties they reported from the Gaza health ministry when they got a pushback they changed it to the UN if I can give just a few examples in October 17th at the Ali Hospital the explosion that happened there they immediately reported it was Israel claimed that there were hundreds of casualties and when German intelligence said no it was a Palestinian rocket they changed the number to 12 last week Jeremy Bowen reported that the Israeli army is shooting Gazans that are trying to escape south we know that there were no Israeli soldiers south of Gaza city and they still reported it and the same Jeremy Bowen in May 2021 reported that Israel was actually bombing they knew that the incident was actually a Palestinian rocket that was exploding there or the protest in London where they say that the protests for Palestine are very peaceful and the police is reporting that hundreds of people are being arrested for violence they are completely ignoring and mischaracterizing the truth and they have a real responsibility it shouldn't surprise us but it's very shocking in this latest incident the BBC saying this error falls below its usual editorial standards but as you are outlining perhaps it's exactly on points emotions though are high on all sides so how damaging is a misquote like this so far into a war emotions are so high on all sides we need to look at the result for some of those protests and the violence that we are seeing around the world against the Jewish community and how anti-Semitism has increased throughout the world since the war broke there is a direct correlation between the bias reporting and the lies that are being spread by the BBC and how Jews are being targeted and attacked and even killed we saw last week in California by anti-Israel protesters as you said emotions run high but we have no protection from the violence that the words of the BBC reporters and international media are sparking against Jews around the world I can tell you I feel unsafe in London the BBC is specifically responsible and there is no amount of apology that can bring back the lives of people that have been taken because of the reporting or the violence that we have seen and the unsafety of so many Jews in Britain and around the world specifically because this public organization that is supposed to be partial and neutral has been failing us and failing reporting and fair reporting and they are the ones that we look to to get credible or at least people are looking for en fact they are getting the exact opposite and we are the ones that are paying the price we just heard that apology that was played is that where this saga ends so to speak or is there some kind of action that can be taken against the BBC in this case yeah you know the apology came because many of us called them out online and I think that's super important that we continue doing that we must hold them accountable because if we don't do that they will not even release an apology and we are calling out the BBC and I hope that I've been in touch with many people that are in a authorities here in the UK that I know are trying to do everything they can I hear also from within the BBC from some of my contacts that there's a lot of anger from Jewish staff that are not happy to say the least with the bias reporting and the lies that are being spread by the BBC I think we have to hold them accountable we have a responsibility to do it and actually be able to make a difference within the BBC but you know I haven't gone on BBC since the war started and I used to go there quite often to be interviewed because I don't want to legitimize them I think Israeli side has to not legitimize them not to give them information and until they adhere to the standards the journalistic standards that they definitely don't adhere to at the moment and Chen we know the board of deputies of British Jews stated it was absolutely appalled by the BBC's reporting but give us a sense of the reaction from other organizations and other communities as well to this kind of reporting it's not from a campus radio station it's from the BBC absolutely and I know that many organizations from the UK like the campaign against anti-Semitism the Tel Aviv Institute where I work at or the committee for accuracy in Middle East reporting in America have all came together and called out the bias reporting and challenged the BBC we continue doing it but you know it seems like we're falling on deaf ears and the only time that they would release an apology is after something as major as claiming that the Israeli army is targeting Arab speakers and medical stuff you know just to think that that happened in a studio with many producers and editors and an anchor actually felt that it was the right thing to say to say that Israel is targeting medical stuff and Arab speakers this has been part of what the BBC has been doing for so long to frame this conflict in a way that Israel and Hamas are the same that they have the same moral values although Hamas have done some of the most brutal and barbaric acts from the get go I think that the BBC has been trying to frame it in this way and that's why they are so quick to shout out any information they have that can frame Israel as the aggressor so we have to call it out, we have to hold them accountable and again it's not just staying in the BBC studio or in the millions of homes that they are broadcasting to it goes out to the streets and that's where we fear, that's where we see synagogues being attacked, that's where we're seeing Jews being violently I mean here in the UK a synagogue just last on Saturday was almost torched down by protesters that stood outside and did not let Jews leaving a synagogue go safely without shouting in that all of this is a direct result of this reporting, direct result of this libelist anti-semitic ideas that the BBC has been spreading for years and until we hold them accountable that's why I think it's so important to stress that the BBC must be held accountable we all have to call them out and I know Jewish organizations are doing it and I want to just say we have to keep doing that we have to call them out because if we want they will not stop those lies a disturbing situation indeed always appreciate your insights thank you so much senior fellow at the Tel Aviv Institute live from London thank you very much and take care of yourself there be safe thank you now just moments ago rocket siren sounding once again in northern communities close to the border with Lebanon so let's go back to our correspondent Zach and is Zach well within the last five minutes another red alert for Stula this is the second of the day for that community that is tucked right next to the border with Lebanon now as we were about to join you here Benita we heard what sounded like a high altitude fighter jets and the outgoing artillery which has been characteristic with these last few red alerts in the well really in the last several weeks when we get these red alerts on the confrontation line this is really the sound that follows it's the sound of the Israeli jets and the outgoing artillery which another one just there the Israelis are saying that they've been targeting these Hezbollah outposts from these points of origin where the fire is coming from so we still don't know at this hour where exactly the positions are that Hezbollah potentially could be firing on IDF forces we're waiting for confirmation thank you so much we will be coming back to our correspondent Zach Anders in Northern Israel for regular updates for now thank you Zach and now we turn to the massive show of solidarity yes we're changing gears now it's a show of solidarity this time in Washington earlier this week the March for Israel seeing hundreds and thousands of demonstrators from across the United States gathering at the National Mall in DC as the war continues look at those images on your screen that war of course all started back on the 7th of October by the Hamas terror onslaught with more than 1200 people killed these are scenes out of Washington earlier in the week Senate majority leader democrat Chuck Schumer saying quote we ache with you we stand with you and we will not rest until you get all the assistance you need new speaker of the house Republican Mike Johnson slamming calls for a ceasefire as outrageous adding Israel will cease their counter offensive when Hamas ceases to be a threat to the Jewish state so for more it's a pleasure to welcome to studio journalist and activist Blake Flayton Blake thank you so much for being here in studio these are such dramatic and heartwarming images to see a solidarity show coming out of Washington right now there have been so many different reports and so many different reactions to what is unfolding give us your take on what we are seeing out of Washington earlier on in the week well I can only agree with you that the images and the videos that we saw coming out of Washington were heartwarming and inspiring and if they don't allow us to be particularly optimistic about the future because I believe that the anti-Israel movement in not only America but in the entire diaspora is getting louder and it is getting more violent in its behavior so if we can't be optimistic for the future at least we can be optimistic that a fair amount of our community hundreds of thousands of people have their heads and have their hearts in the right places and are willing to go out into the street to show their support for Israel and the Jewish people so I was very happy to see all of those people and I was very happy to share a flight with Mr. Cheranski on my way back from the US yesterday I did a fair amount of speaking on college campuses and in synagogues over there and Mr. Cheranski spoke at the DC march so that feeling of community that feeling that we're going to overcome this because we have each other that's what's meaning a lot to me right now I want to get to the campuses that you're talking about but over and above Natani Cheranski also messages of bipartisan support coming across the podium at that rally and that is so important right now across the political spectrum the support we heard on that day was for Israel Yes and it's very important to have bipartisan support of Israel you know I'm a strong Democrat I'm a strong liberal in the US but I was happy to see Republicans sharing their support for Israel and also you know calling into question the absurdity of demands for a ceasefire you know Israel has a bloodthirsty terrorist organization that carried out the brutal October 7th attack there is just no logic behind pushing for a ceasefire that was fundamentally broken that early in the early hours of October 7th and so we need to have Israel's back it Israel needs to be as strong as possible and as deeply aligned with its allies as possible that's not to say that I don't think that there were some missteps at who was invited to speak particularly representatives of the Christian movement which I believe hurt our cause and I don't believe that any amount of money justifies their presence on that stage but you know at the end of the day I think most people were very pleased with again the turnout and also the messages of support coming from just in front of the Capitol. I want to unpack a little bit more what is happening on American campuses right now because we've been talking earlier on in this broadcast and frankly in recent weeks about the fact that what happened on the 7th of October was filmed by Hamas terrorists these videos went viral we've just played earlier on in this broadcast a Hamas leader speaking on public television saying what happened on the 7th of October will happen again and again and again why is this rhetoric out of Hamas and these videos from Hamas not enough to convince students on American campuses that the threat de sustancial threat exists for people in Israel because they are Jewish that is the thinking that is the ideology of Hamas why is that not understood by students on campuses right now what is your sense? So what students on college campuses have been doing for really the last decade of course you know it's only been a mainstream problem at least in the United States for the last couple of years but this has been a problem in the works for decades if not more than that and it starts the ground has been softened for violence against Israelis and indeed violence against Jews and the diaspora why because you have organizations like students for justice in Palestine and Jewish voice for peace and of course you have anti-Israel professors as well who have been equating Israel with the very worst things of humanity and they've been doing it with impunity they've been doing it without investigation without being held to account by their fellow faculty members or by students so they've been saying Israel equals white supremacy Israel equals racism Israel equals genocide and this was before the war started again Israel equals apartheid Israel and they associated with all of the evils that young people in America care about like the evils of exploitative capitalism and the evils of misogyny even which just goes to show how horrifying it was that we didn't hear from women's organizations and feminist activists when we learned of the accounts of sexual violence that came out of October 7 horrific accounts of sexual violence on that day exactly and so this has been a swap I like to call the American college campus of equating Israel with everything bad and everything wicked under the sun and over time when you build up that rhetoric and you instill that ideology in more and more students when something truly horrible happens against Israelis like what happened on October 7 there is less space and less room for them to give a damn for them to care and especially when they're seeing the social media pages of their politically active friends who are parroting and sharing just the worst information imaginable about Israel, about Zionism about the Palestinians and about the conflict at large and even if they do know that maybe something is wrong in the water maybe we should be looking at this from a more humanitarian angle they're afraid to say anything because the social ramifications and the consequences of that are dire I know that firsthand I spoke up against antisemitism on my college campus when I was a student and you know I wrote an article about it in the New York Times and only one faculty member from my university reached out to have a discussion with me that was about 15 minutes and I lost a great deal of friends and peers I would say in the organizations that I was working in and the places that I was active in so they know that they know that this is a social issue as well as a political one and it can have real blowback and it could mean really negative things for their college experience which is really tragic but it just shows you and reveals the extremity and the gravity of the moment. Still leave so many questions about anyone who has seen these images the brutality, the depravity the questioning exactly this is a terror organization trying to eradicate civilians because they are Jewish and it's just staggering to think that the reaction is the one that you are describing on campuses and not one of support for what is happening what Israelis are enduring right now the threat to their very existence very briefly do you feel safe as a Jewish person in the US when you're there do you feel that you're safe very briefly. But when I went back to the US and I spoke to all of these college students they don't feel safe they explicitly do not feel safe they don't know if one morning they're going to wake up to their dorm rooms set on fire or one of their friends making threats of violence against them and we're not even a little bit prepared to face that problem where the Jewish community stands in the US right now. Worrying situation indeed Blake, Flayton thank you for being here in studio I appreciate your insight thank you Let's check back in with what's happening on the ground Correspondent Pierre Kloshendler is still in southern Israel what's the latest there Pierre what can you tell us Well the particular sector that we can oversee is very active lately behind me you might see the haze of the red deduces of bombing by the Israeli Air Force and artillery and then to the right of your monitor you'll be able to see a smoke screen that has been set up by the Israeli artillery really on the extreme north of the Gaza Strip very close to the Israeli southern border vis-à-vis Gaza and it seems that there is a ground operation going on there and that smoke screen is designed to cover the troops in order to advance in their positions and there could be some fighting over there although we do not hear the machine gun fire All in all there's been a lot of explosion throughout the day in this particular sector which is only covering a few kilometers of what the IDF has been inflicting on terror targets of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad what we know now is some details emerging from the Shifa hospital the IDF is saying that the forces in place elite forces from the Shaldag unit which is a reconnaissance unit belonging to the Israeli Air Force the Shaldag unit is moving from building to building from room to room bombing floor after floor and gathering a lot of forces that Hamas tried to hide before they probably evacuated the hospital compound via the tunnels we know for instance that the tunnel shafts in the hospital have been covered with cement with concrete and the bulldozers are taking these concrete platforms on the tunnel shafts in order to observe what's going on because the goal of the IDF right now is basically to go underneath the hospital to the basement to the interlacing of tunnels that are crossing the underneath of the Shifa hospital and we know also that in the laptops that we have found upper ground the BBC was told by the IDF and now an explosion the BBC was told by the IDF that they found videos and pictures of the hostages in captivity since October 7 Staggering development there obviously more to unfold in the coming hours for now Thank you so much Correspondent Pierre Kloschendler live from Southern Israel and from the south we know are going to Mordin and we cross to our Pierre Staggerberg, she's with families who have been marching to Jerusalem and she answers about the 239 people kidnapped by the Hamas terror group what is the latest there Pierre? Right Benita, well several buses have now arrived to Mordin carrying those marchers, those dozens of families have been basically on the road since a Tuesday they started in Tel Aviv and on Saturday they are expected to arrive to Jerusalem and they want to rally in front of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's residents but really they have been on their feet basically since the 7th of October speaking about the families of at least 239 hostages of them names, stories, lives and of course incredibly worried family members and they are now rallying here in Mordin, they are expected to arrive here in the next coming minutes we are standing in front of the house of Noah Marciano, which is an Israeli soldier who was kidnapped into Gaza on that 7th of October and she was declared dead two days ago and this is of course where the family is sitting where this family is mourning these buses carrying those marchers are also now going to arrive to the family and showing the empathy and their solidarity, I am standing here with one of those marchers, Shoval he is the family member of two people who have been kidnapped from Bere, your aunt and your uncle just told me that your aunt is very sick can you tell me why do you come why did you join the march today what does it give to you? Well actually there is nothing much to do because there is a lot of things that are not depend on us there is a lot of things that the government need to do and we did a lot of external things we went to other country me and my cousin went to Germany went to Brazil, we talked with the European Union but now all we need to do is put more pressure on the public to help us put the first priority as releasing the hostages and only secondly to do the other stuff so I am here because we want to make it really really loud and clear that the family are waiting to the hostages to come back we want everybody to come here to help us to help us shout as loud as they can to bring them back Now let's take a look at your aunt and your uncle and you told me that your uncle it's his birthday tomorrow right if you had the chance to speak to him can you tell me what would you say to him No, Raz is my aunt my aunt has a birthday tomorrow and three little girls the first thing they want for her birthday is to get their mother back and I am sure she wants the same I have no idea what the situation is with them we don't know nothing we are just waiting it's really a one big nightmare and who knows we just want her back and if it can be tomorrow for her birthday it will be the greatest present ever The uncertainty this is something that unites all those families thank you very much Shauvalen there are really dozens of families still on their way here to Modiin they will gather here they will rally here and they will continue their way until they arrive to Jerusalem on Saturday to also make their voices heard make their demands heard to apply the utmost political pressure on the release of those hostages and they arrive to Benjamin Netanyahu's residency Venita the hearts of the nation are with the hostages and their families thank you so much correspondent Pierre Stekelbach live from Modiin and now to end if you love the sport of rugby you'll know the famous and often feared war dance of the New Zealand rugby team it's called the Hacker it's usually performed by the All Blacks that's the name of the team in front of the opposing rugby rivals no a force so to speak so here is the latest version the Hacker war cry in support of Israel it took place next to a pro-Palestinian march in New Zealand and the protestors ended up leaving let's take a look a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well welcome to the special broadcast here in I-24 news as we continue our rolling coverage day 41 of the war here in Israel in the south the idea forces rather keep up the surgical operations at the chief of hospital after massive amount of weapons and bombs and other terror infrastructure all found there on the northern front the many war persist anti-tank missiles fired at Israel from Lebanon as Hezbollah trying to force Israel to make the first step en Jerusalem a terror attack that was said to be much much more 3 West Bank terrorists planned an October 7 like massacre in the city and all this while pending hostage deal is still said to be in the making still no agreements as Qatar has reportedly even unable to contact Hamas leader in the strip Israel officials determined to bring them home the difference between a price and a cost the return of the hostages is worth it so we want to begin this broadcast by heading live to not to Jerusalem to the road to Jerusalem I-24 news correspondent Pia Stelkelbacher joining us she's with the families of the hostages it is day three of their march a route to Jerusalem to the Israeli parliament to the prime minister a lot of talk Pia of a pending deal how is it affecting the families well Ali the families are here to really rally for the support and to draw as much attention as possible on their loved ones this is day 41 of not knowing anything of the situation of their families, their loved ones they started to march on Tuesday already they left Tel Aviv and now they are as you said on their way to Jerusalem we are here in the city of Mudein they are rallying here and they are supposed to arrive any minute now to the house of Noah Masiano which is an Israeli soldier who was also kidnapped into Gaza on October the 7th and was now declared dead this is the families house here and soon all those families were speaking about dozens and dozens of families who have come here by foot and also with buses were now also showing their solidarity and their empathy for that family of Noah Masiano and of course those families do have high hopes when they hear possible hostages deals but I want to speak to one who came here Shoval Abin, your aunt and your uncle were kidnapped from Kibbutz Berry next to the Gaza border on that terrible Saturday into Gaza and you said that your aunt is sick and she needs medical attention can you tell me a little bit more about this yeah my aunt is really really sick she has an autoimmune disease and lesion on her brainstem she take about 15 different kind of medication a month so it's really really complicated she is probably the most complicated patient there is from all that 239 hostages we have no idea if the Red Cross pass her any kind of medication we have no idea if she got treated in any sort of way the only testimony that we have is a video that was found from a dead body of a terrorist showing her walking on the outside fence of Kibbutz Berry we have four other Hamas terrorists on her inside red pickup truck from there we can see the red pickup truck going towards Gaza and this is the less we heard from her we have no idea about the situation we don't know what is going on with them now you joined this march today is there anything specific that you demand from the Israeli government what you think can be done at this point yeah I think it's all about priority obviously the government care about the hostages it's not about caring it's about being very very clear about putting them first putting them as first priority telling us the families that they will do whatever it takes to release them putting them first and we didn't heard nothing that sound even similar to that we only heard let's destroy Hamas we didn't hear we put in the hostages as our first and most important priority this is what we want to hear this is why I'm here today thank you very much probably many of those families what support here many of those families are coming together also just to get into action to not sit alone at home without really having anything to do they are just gathering here to show the solidarity also for one another and to create also that sense of community that is very much needed in those very much unconscious and very very difficult times for them Ali Yes and we are seeing Israelis joining their march on every stop along their long way from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to make sure that the families know that this entire country is behind them not just in rhetoric but physically as well thank you very much P.S.T.K.O.Bachai24 news correspondent with the families of the hostages there thank you very much and joining us here in studio for this broadcast Colonel Grisha Kobović, former head of the civilian department of Koga and our very own I-24 news senior editor, senior correspondent guys real thank you gentlemen very much for joining with us and before we begin our conversation I want us to take a listen and take a look more than all else to what the IDF spokesperson, a foreign spokesperson is revealing today Jonathan Konricis some, just some of what was found at the chief hospital where IDF forces are still operating, let's take a look let me show you a few examples let's get MRI services we'll proceed into a more secluded area and the lighting here is out so we're using flashlights we're now, as you can see in an MRI room I don't know when this was used the last time I don't know when it was used the last time but it is definitely an MRI machine and if you follow me behind the MRI machine there are four troops exposed just minutes ago in military terms this is a grab bag grab and go of a Hamas combatant and if you zoom in and we get some light over here what you'll be able to see is military equipment there is an AK-47 there are cartridges ammo there are grenades in here of course uniformed and all of this was hidden conveniently, secretly behind the MRI machine on the other side we found a backpack with what appears to be very important intelligence including a laptop and we'll show you that momentarily let's go see the next room so we're still in the MRI center the backpack was found in here and it was also hidden behind the MRI machine as you can see the rest of the equipment here is proper hospital equipment bandages and medical gear it seems as if there is no real shortage because there is a lot of equipment here but we'll leave that for another discussion let's go see weapons and other prohibited items as we walk through the main corridor here our troops did a preliminary search of the area we tried to uncover the cameras but all of the cameras have been obstructed you can see there is black tape covering it and when our troops opened this closet here which is in the main part of the clinic this is what they found these weapons have absolutely no business being inside a hospital the only reason they are here is because Hamas put them here because they use this place like many other hospitals and ambulances and sensitive facilities inside the Gaza Strip for their illicit military purposes so there is a lot of rifles here even ammunition I am back here in the city with Colonel Yakubovich Colonel Yakubovich the operation at the Shifa hospital continues IDF forces going room by room to find what we are seeing again just the tip of the iceberg here we are seeing lots of tactical achievements no doubt my question to you do they accumulate do they amount to a strategic one well I think so actually what I wanted to explain after what we have seen is what is a war when you have some I would say restrictions against you as an army who is fighting terror it's like we announced 2 weeks ago that we are about to enter something like 2 weeks it means they had 2 weeks to clean the hospital I am sure that according to the law according to the international law if the idea would enter to Shifa after just announcing civilians live this is a place that terror uses we had all the right all the legitimacy to enter and the Americans are saying as well we have intelligence about the proof about what's been unfolding there yes but we had to wait 2 weeks and if I would be Hamas in those 2 weeks I would clean the hospital I am sure that if it was if the operation was probably done differently and not this way we could actually find people who were kidnapped because I am talking about the big things not few collage decors and few bags Hamas obviously made an effort to clean Hamas made this is what I wanted to clarify Hamas made an effort to clean it and although they made this effort the idea found many let's say tactical things that show that Shifa has become a headquarter of Hamas we want to jump to the ground to the south I-24 news correspondent Pierre Klochendler with the I-24 news team on the Israel-Gaza border Pierre thank you very much for joining us well we've been talking here of course about the still ongoing operation at the Shifa hospital and this hour the idea of spokesperson is saying some computers and other relevant equipment containing videos and pictures found there obviously of paramount importance when we're talking about the pursuit of trying to understand what has happened and what is happening with the 239 hostages in the Gaza strip what do we know well we know what the IDF spokesperson unit has said they found in a laptop that images have not been published yet images of hostages in captivity since October 7 as well as videos of these hostages as well as videos of confessions of Hamas terrorists who participated in the massacre of October 7 that were done by the Israeli police and were published in the Israeli media and taken by Hamas it shows you that Hamas is very very aware of anything that is being published in the Israeli media that's what they found now these are virtual traces of hostages there is no physical trace of the hostages and as your guest just mentioned earlier they had ample time Hamas to move away clean the area as much as they can and move away from the hospital compound we know even that concrete was covering, is covering the tunnel shafts in the hospital compound this is why the Israeli army has brought in denied bulldozers in order to excavate and reach those tunnels what we know is that Shifa right now is being calmed by the Shaldag reconnaissance units of the Israeli air force room after room floor after floor building after building in a very methodical and thorough way being very sensitive with the hundreds of patients of medical personnel and displaced Palestinians that are in a separate world avoiding all friction there is absolutely no clash no shooting inside the hospital premises and the goal, the pray that Sahal is looking for is basically what's underneath the hospital the basement the interlacing of tunnels very briefly before we let you go the the manager of the Shifa Hospital is selling al jazeera so everything needs to be taken with an extra more than just a grain of salt is telling al jazeera this hour that the IDF has taken bodies as part of the search of the compound potentially maybe bodies that might relate to the hostages situation no no I think that these are bodies of terrorists that have been killed as the army went into the hospital there was a clash we know yesterday there was an armed clash between the IDF forces that were entering the hospital and terrorists five of them were killed look bodies of terrorists are monetized with within the negotiations between Israel Hamas and Palestine Islamic Jihad we know that these are gory negotiations about everything including bodies so those bodies are taken away they are part of the negotiation and at the same time you want to check the identity of the terrorists maybe it was an important field commander maybe has something in his pocket maybe a map intelligence anything nothing is left nothing is left in order to gather as much as intelligence as possible in order to find out where the hostages are yes indeed and all this is happening again as mentioned well the contacts to reach about a breakthrough in the pending hostage deal still and always no breakthrough yet hopefully we'll get some good news in disrespect as soon Pierre Klochendler high 24 news correspondent thank you so very much for this back here in the studio with Colonel Lagushe Kupovic in the guy Israel guy again the operation is still ongoing in the Gaza Strip at the Shifa hospital but still 41 days later we keep on getting new information about what actually unfolded on October 7th it keeps on going we don't have a full picture yet of what what happened there I think it was best described as the most well documented massacre in history so to speak over 1200 Israelis slaughtered on that October 7th Saturday the vast majority of them will remind our viewers civilians slaughtered in their homes entire families babies children women elderly butchered beheaded burned alive raped all the atrocities one can imagine and the idea is releasing more and more footage that is being found we're talking both about footage that is from for example CCTV cameras that is obtained from homes but also from GoPro cameras because and this is important to emphasize Hamas looked to brag with the onslaught equipped its terrorists with cameras with body cameras GoPro cameras so that they will document the atrocities so they can brag a guy why spare the words so they can brag let's take a look an explosion before dawn on October 7th the time is here and the attack is underway Allahu Akbar God is great they chant as they cross the breached fence go right go right go right they say less than two minutes later they cross the second security fence they are in Israel heading towards the Kibbutz the sun is up and a day that will reshape the region has begun this video comes from the body cam of one of the terrorists who took part in the attack it was obtained exclusively by CNN from the Israel Defense Forces for the first time we also see video inside Hamas tunnels before the attack it is a look into a network of tunnels with what appear to be supplies stored in the darkness writing on the walls in Arabic says what's hidden is far worse above ground the gunman fires his first shots go on man go on man he screams they stop on the way more than a dozen militants gather here a salto one has several rocket-propelled grenades on his back minutes later a group advances across an open field moving towards the village of Qisufim the gunman charges the last bit and spots an Israeli soldier on the ground others join in celebration moments later he is more composed as he turns the camera on himself he says his name and that he is 24 years old he is Israeli soldiers he asks God for victory and well deserved martyrdom on motorbikes now they keep advancing moving together along empty Israeli roads or nearly empty the man cheers as he sees bodies on the road his is not the first wave he rounds a corner here we have seen this place before among the first videos to come out after the attack video from a car on the same road moments earlier the car approaches a group of militants who open fire the car coasts its driver almost certainly dead by now it is just after 7.40 in the morning after a quick reload the group approaches a military base near the Kibbutz of Reim for 65 minutes since crossing the Gaza fence they have had nearly free reign in Israel the gunman closes the distance the Israeli soldier opening fire and fire comes back this man's part of the attack comes to an end the terror is just beginning Warren Lieberman CNN in Tel Aviv yes and as as unfortunate as it may sound this is the reality here there are those who are very much inspired by the actions of Hamas terrorists as well as inspired they wanted to do a rerun in Jerusalem this very morning I think beyond being inspired these are the same Hamas so this was well planned by Hamas in Gaza and we have the exact same ideology by Hamas in the West Bank so yes an attack thwarted today 6 Israelis were wounded one of them in a very critical condition at a checkpoint in Jerusalem when three Hamas terrorists opened fire indiscriminately at this checkpoint and luckily they will manage to be stopped there luckily just 6 luckily only 6 Israelis wounded but when police had a look at their belongings what they found there was Axis guns ammunition, IDF uniforms and we can just imagine or we can hear the police saying they planned a large scale massacre not surprising at all the same ideology and the same understanding that when there are terrorists with an ideology of wanting to slaughter Israelis and they have the means to do so they will eventually do so and that was October 7th that was again another reminder today of the threat of Hamas not only in Gaza but also in the West Bank unfortunately this is what Israel is dealing with and I think when we heard President Biden yesterday saying that the war will end when Hamas quote no longer maintains the capacity to murder, abuse and do horrific things to Israelis this is what he was talking about Colonel Yakubovic the policy implemented was the Gaza Strip since 2008 was a policy that created differentiation between the Gaza Strip and why is that if Israel would not do that we would probably see the same terror groups in the West Bank using the same type of weapons that the ones who used it that Black Saturday in Massacred our families Hamas failed in some Hamas, ok, I want to be clear Hamas won this war at the beginning October 7th they will be remembered in history the IDF it sounds bad but we can we can turn the picture a little bit and we can make them understand what is the price of that but they also planned that the West Bank and Arab Israelis will join to the war this is the last we've heard from Mohammed for that matters calling on a West Bank, Palestinians and Arab Israelis to join actually Hamas maybe succeeded a huge achievement on October 7 but they failed on the other items of the plan one, Hezbollah Hezbollah is still on a certain hold, ok, with an equation let's see how it will look like in the future but they were sure that what they gained in May 2021, the guardian of the walls that Arab Israelis and the West Bank will join to the arena and they failed with that so what they are trying to do is to use their best guys in the West Bank now we are talking about two terrorists from the family of Kawasma it's the hardcore of Hamas in Hebron, ok, the best of the best in the West Bank a legacy of terror a legacy of terrorists, yes one of them, his father died in 2003 so it's a DNA in the family their Hamas support and what they tried to do they tried to escalate the situation in the West Bank so the IDF will have to deal with the same consequences that we did on October 7th as Guy mentioned and the IDF will respond in a way that will actually flame the West Bank this was the plan, ok to open the arena in the West Bank by conducting a terror horrible terror attack so the IDF will be actually the trigger and yes, the fact that it didn't happen so far doesn't mean that it cannot happen still and this is why we're still seeing IDF forces there they will continue with that they will pull all their cards the heavy guns, literally all right, Colonel Grishek Kobović Guy Israel, 24 years senior correspondent editor thank you very much gentlemen for joining us on this broadcast we will be back at the top of the hour with another bulletin continue a rolling coverage all day long until then you can stay updated online or in social media thank you very much for watching see you at the top of the hour welcome to the special broadcast here in I-24 news as we continue a rolling coverage day 41 of the war here in Israel in the south, the IDF forces rather keep up the surgical operations at the chief of hospital after a massive amount of weapons and bombs and other terror infrastructure in the south, the IDF forces rather keep up the surgical operations at the chief of hospital after a massive amount of weapons and bombs and other terror infrastructure in Israel all found there on the northern front the many war persist anti-tank missiles fired at Israel from Lebanon as Hezbollah tried to force Israel to make the first step in Jerusalem a terror attack that was said to be much much more three West Bank terrorists planned an October 7th like massacre in the city and all this while pending hostage deal is still said to be in the making still no agreements as Qatar has reportedly even unable to contact Hamas leader in the Stripier-Hassinois Israeli officials determined to bring them home the difference between a price and a cost the return of the hostages is worth it so we want to begin this broadcast by heading live to not to Jerusalem to the road to Jerusalem 24 news correspondent Pia Stelko by joining us she's with the families of the hostages it is day three of their march a route to Jerusalem to the to the Israeli parliament to the prime ministers residence a lot of talk Pia of a pending deal how is it affecting the families well Ellie the families are here to really rally for the support and to draw as much attention as possible on their loved ones no knowing anything of the situation of their families their loved ones they started to march on Tuesday they left Tel Aviv as you said on their way to Jerusalem we are here in the city of Mudein relatively close to Jerusalem they are rallying here and they are supposed to arrive any minute now to the house of Noah Marziana which is an Israeli soldier who was also kidnapped into Gaza on October 7th and was now declared dead we are speaking about dozens and dozens of families who have come here by foot and also with buses we are now also showing their solidarity and their empathy for that family of Noah Marziano and of course those families do have high hopes when they hear those messages of possible hostage deals but I want to speak to one who came here Shauval Aben your aunt and your uncle were kidnapped from Kibbutz Berri next to the Gaza border on that terrible Saturday into Gaza and you said that your aunt is sick can you tell me a little bit more about this yeah my aunt is really really sick she has an autoimmune disease and lesion on her brainstem she take about 15 different kind of medication a month so it's really really complicated she's probably the most complicated patient there is from all that 239 hostages we have no idea if the Red Cross pass her any kind of medication we have no idea if she got treated in any sort of way the only testimony that we have is a video that was found from a dead body of a terrorist showing her walking on the outside fence of Kibbutz Berri we have four other Hamas terrorists taking her and putting her inside a red pickup truck from there we can see the red pickup truck going towards Gaza and this is the last we heard from her we have no idea about the situation we don't know what is going on with them now you joined this march today is there anything specific that you demand from the Israeli government what you think can be done at this point yeah I think it's all about priority obviously the government care about the hostages but it's not about caring it's about being very very clear about putting them first putting them as first priority telling us the families that they will do whatever it takes to release them putting them first and we didn't heard nothing that sound even similar to that we only heard let's destroy Hamas we didn't hear we put in the hostages as our first and most important priority this is what we want to hear this is why I'm here today thank you very much Shauval this is something that probably many of those families what support here many of those families together also just to get into action to not sit alone at home without really having anything to do they are just gathering here to show the solidarity also for one another and to create also that sense of community that is very much needed in those very much unconscious and very very difficult times for them Ali yes and we are seeing Israelis joining their march in every stop along their long way from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to make sure that the families know that this entire country is behind them not just in rhetoric but physically as well thank you very much thank you very much for joining with us and before we begin our conversation I want us to take a listen and take a look more than all else to what the idea of a spokesperson a foreign spokesperson is revealing today Jonathan Conricis showing us some just some of what was found at the chief hospital where idea forces are still operating let's take a look so we are inside the MRI center of the chief hospital Israeli troops reached here a few hours ago and we have cleared the area make sure that it's safe and a few of the most interesting things that we have found totally confirmed without any doubt that Hamas systematically uses hospitals in their military operations in violation of international law and what we have found I think is only the tip of the iceberg let me show a few examples security cameras have been obstructed all of the security cameras are covered and this isn't the only one you'll see the rest of them here follow me as we go in and we will see the MRI center and see the weapons that Hamas has hidden inside this is where patients come in order to get MRI services will proceed into a more secluded area and the lighting here is out so we are using flashlights we are now as you can see in an MRI room I don't know when this was used the last time I don't know when it was used the last time but it is definitely an MRI machine and if you follow me behind the MRI machine I'll show you what our troops exposed just minutes ago in military terms this is a grab bag grab and go of a Hamas combatant and if you zoom in and we get some light over here what you'll be able to see is military equipment there is an AK-47 there are cartridges ammo there are grenades in here of course uniformed and all of that this was hidden very conveniently secretly behind the MRI machine appears to be very important intelligence including a laptop and we'll show you that momentarily let's go see the next one so we're still in the MRI center the backpack was found in here and it was also hidden behind the MRI machine as you can see the rest of the equipment here is proper hospital equipment bandages and medical gear it seems as if there is no real shortage because there is a lot of equipment here but we'll leave that for another discussion let's go see weapons and other prohibited items as we walk through the main corridor here our troops did a preliminary search of the area we tried to uncover the cameras but all of the cameras have been obstructed you can see there is black tape covering it and when our troops open this closet here at the heart of the clinic this is what they found these weapons have absolutely no business being inside a hospital the only reason they're here is because Hamas put them here because they use this place like many other hospitals and ambulances and sensitive facilities inside the Gaza Strip for their illicit military purposes so there's Kalashnikov rifles here even ammunition yeah, back here in the city with Colonel Jakubowicz Colonel Jakubowicz the operation at the Schifa hospital continues idea forces going room by room to find what we're seeing again just the tip of the iceberg here and yet we're seeing lots of tactical achievements no doubt my question to you General, ¿dónde se suma a uno estratégico? bueno, creo que así en realidad lo que quería explicar después de lo que hemos visto es ¿qué es una guerra cuando hay algunas restricciones contra ti como un armamento que está combatiendo terror? nos anunciamos hace dos semanas como dos semanas es decir, hay dos semanas para limpar el hospital estoy seguro que según la ley si la idea sería entrar a Schifa después de anunciar los civiles, ¿de acuerdo? esto es un lugar que se utiliza terror tenemos todos los derechos para entrar y los americanos también lo dicen tenemos inteligencia sobre la prueba pero tuvimos dos semanas y si yo sería Hamas en esas dos semanas estaría limpar el hospital estoy seguro de que si la operación fue probablemente hecho diferente y no de esta manera pudiéramos encontrar personas que fueron arreglados terrestres, armas estoy hablando de las grandes cosas no hay pocos colácticos y pocos baggos Hamas obviamente ha hecho un esfuerzo para limpar el hospital y esto es lo que quería clarificar Hamas ha hecho un esfuerzo para limpar el hospital y aunque ha hecho este esfuerzo la idea ha encontrado muchas, digamos tacticas cosas que mostrar que Schifa se ha convertido en una cuarta de Hamas queremos acceder a la tierra a la sur de I-24 corresponde a Pierre Klochendler en el equipo de la Borda de Israel Pierre, muchas gracias por ayudarnos hemos hablado, por supuesto sobre la operación en el hospital de Schifa y en esta hora la idea de la persona de Spokes está diciendo que algunos computadores y otros equipos relevantes conteniendo videos y fotos de los hospitales obviamente de paramount importancia cuando hablamos de la pursuación de entender lo que ha ocurrido y lo que está sucediendo con los 239 hospitales en la Borda de Israel ¿Qué sabemos? Bueno, sabemos que la unidad de Spokes de la persona de Spokes se ha encontrado en un laptop pero imágenes no han sido publicadas imágenes fotos de hospitales en captividad desde octubre 7 y videos de estos hospitales como videos de confesiones de terroristas de Hamas que participaron en el masacre de octubre 7 que fueron realizados por la policía israelí y fueron publicadas en la media israelí y tomadas por Hamas te dijeron que Hamas es muy, muy consciente de lo que ha sido publicado en la media israelí eso es lo que han encontrado ahora, estas son las trazas virtuales de los hosteges no hay un trazo físico de los hosteges y como tu guest te mencionó había un tiempo amplio Hamas para mover las áreas como pueden y mover de la campana hospital sabemos que el concreto está descubriendo las trazas en la campana hospital es por esto que la israelí ha llevado a los bulldozers para excavar y alcanzar esos trazos lo que sabemos es que Shifa ahora está estando calma por las unidades de reconexación de la israelía de la Fuerza Fuerza a Fuerza construyendo en una manera muy metodical y thorough siendo muy sensitiva con los cientos de pacientes de personal médico y desplazados palestinianos que están en una ropa separada para evitar toda la fricción no es absoluto ni clases, ni tiros dentro de las premisas hospitalas y el objetivo, la prensa que Sahal está buscando es básicamente lo que está debajo del hospital la basura la entralación de cientos de pacientes Piero, muy breve antes de que os déis ir el manager del hospital Shifa está vendiendo el Jazeera del Sal que la idea es que los cientos son parte del compasio posiblemente los cientos que puede relacionarse con la situación de hostia no, no, creo que estos son los cientos de terroristas que han sido matados como la armada vio al hospital lo sabíamos de que ayer había una placa ataleta entre las forzas ideales que están entrando en el hospital y los terroristas, 5 de ellos están matados los cientos de terroristas están sepulados dentro de las negociaciones entre Israel Hamas y palestina islamic Jihad sabemos que estas es las negociaciones del sistema Incluido a los tiempos, así que esos tiempos están abiertos, ellos son parte de la negociación, y al mismo tiempo, quieres ver la identidad de los terrestres, tal vez sea importante, el comandante del campo, tal vez tenga algo en su pocket, tal vez un mapa, inteligencia, y eso también, nada se ha quedado, nada se ha quedado, en ordero que, en cuanto a inteligencia posible, encuentres donde los terrestres están. Sí, de hecho, todo esto está sucediendo, como mencioné, el contexto, para que haya un breakthrough en los terrestres pendientes, todavía, y sin embargo, no hay un breakthrough, y espero que haya algunas buenas noticias en el respecto. Pierre Klochendler, con la corrupción 24, en la borda de Israel, gracias muy mucho por esto, en el estudio de aquí, con Colonel Lagushe Coppović, un hombre israel, un hombre, de nuevo, la operación, está aún en el Gaza Strip, en el hospital del chief, pero aún 41 días después, mantenemos información nueva sobre lo que actualmente ha unfoldado en octubre 7, sigue siendo inundado, no tenemos una foto completa, pero de lo que sucedió ahí. Creo que fue mejor describido como el más documentado masacre en la historia, sobre todo, sobre 1.200 israelíes que se han explotado en octubre 7, la mayoría vasta de ellos nos recordarán que los ciudadanos se han explotado en sus hogares, las familias, los niños, los niños, las mujeres, los adultos, los asesores, los asesores, los asesores, los asesores, todos los atrocidades que uno puede imaginar. Y la idea es que release más y más fotos que se han encontrado, es decir, estamos hablando de fotos que son, por ejemplo, las cámaras de CCTV que se han obtenido en sus hogares, pero también de las cámaras GoPro, porque, y esto es importante mencionar, Hamas ve a Bragg con el onslot equipado, son asesores con cámaras, con cámaras GoPro, para que se documenten las atrocidades. Así que Bragg, por favor, ¿sabes qué? Una explosión antes de Don en octubre 7 el tiempo está aquí y el ataque está bajo Allahu Akbar, Dios es genial, ellos llenan como se han cruzado la defensa a la derecha, a la derecha, a la derecha, a la derecha, en menos de 2 minutos, se cruzan la segunda defensa de seguridad ellos están en Israel caminando contra las cámaras el son es up y un día que reshapará la región ha empezado este video viene de la camisa de uno de los terroristas que participó en el ataque fue obtenido exclusivamente por CNN de las fuerzas de defensa de Israel por la primera vez vemos un video dentro de las cámaras antes del ataque es un reto de cámaras que parecen ser supplyas en la oscuridad escribiendo en las cámaras en el árabe dice que lo que está escondido es más lejos encima del grado, el armazón firma sus primeros disparos venga, venga, venga están en el camino más de un par de militares están aquí preparados para el próximo asalto uno tiene varios granades de roca en sus manos minutos después un grupo avanza el equipo el armazón arrastra la última bit y se encuentra en un soldado israelí otros participan en la celebración un momento después él es más compuesto cuando suena la cámara a él dice su nombre y dice que es 24 años es un padre dice que le mató a dos soldados israelí él pregunta a Dios por la victoria y bien merece martyrdom en motorbikes ahora están avanzando moviendo juntos entre empties israelí o la manchera cuando ve a los miembros él no es el primer camino él cae en una parte aquí hemos visto este lugar antes de los primeros vídeos después del ataque este es el video de dash cam de un carro en el mismo camino el carro aproxima un grupo de militares que abren el fuego el carro costa por ahora es justo después de 7.40 en la mañana después de un corte reloj el grupo aproxima un base militar cerca de la quipuza de raín por 65 minutos desde el cruz de la gaza han tenido casi el free rain en israel la manchera cerraron la distancia con un arma que tomó de un soldado israelí abren el fuego y el fuego viene de atrás esta manchera parte del ataque viene a un final el terror es just beginning orn Lieberman cnn en television si y y es es infusión es que puede sonar esta es la realidad aquí hay quienes son muy inspirados por las acciones de los terroristas tan inspirados que quieren hacer un reloj en jerusalem esta mañana creo que para ser inspirados son los mismos de jamás entonces esto fue bien planado por jamás en gaza y tenemos la misma la ideología exacta de jamás en el west bank así que sí, un ataque aburrido hoy seis israelí fueron uno de ellos en una muy crítica condición en un checkpoint en jerusalem cuando tres terroristas abren el fuego indiscriminamente en este checkpoint y y suerte han logrado que un detalle pero cuando tal vez communities pero cuando la policía había visto a sus adelantamientos ahí fue un atleta a las exis municiones uniformes y podemos imaginar o podemos escuchar la idea de la policía diciendo quechan la receta no sorprender la misma ideología y la misma la entidad de cuando con una ideología de desplazar a los israelíos y tener el significado de hacer así, van a eventualmente hacer así, y ese fue el 7 de octubre, y ese fue, de nuevo, otro recuerdo de hoy, de la tarea de Hamas, no solo en Gaza, sino también en el West Bank, en otras áreas. Sin embargo, esto es lo que Israel está hablando de. Y creo que cuando escuchamos a Presidente Biden, ayer, diciendo que la guerra va a terminar, cuando Hamas, quote, no más mantiene la capacidad de murder, abuso, y hace horrible cosas a los israelíos, esto es lo que él estaba hablando de. La política implementada contra el Gaza Strip, desde 2008, fue una política que creó la diferencia entre el Gaza Strip y el West Bank. ¿Y por qué es eso? Si Israel no hacía eso, podríamos ver los mismos grupos terroristas en el West Bank usando los mismos tipos de armas que los que usaron ese black saturday en Massacred, nuestras familias. Hamas falleció en algunas... Ok, quiero ser claro, Hamas 1, la guerra en el principio, el 7 de octubre, se verá recuerdo en la historia como los que han defeatado la IDF. Se suena malo, pero podemos... podemos ver la imagen un poco, y podemos hacerles entender lo que es el precio de eso. Pero también se planó que el West Bank y los israelíos will join en la guerra. Esa es la última que hemos escuchado de Muhammad para que sea importante llamar a los palestinos israelíos En realidad, Hamas maybe succeeded. He logrado un gran cumplimiento en el 7 de octubre, pero han fallado los otros ítimos del plan. 1, Hezbollah. Hezbollah todavía está en un cierto punto, ok, con una imagen que veamos cómo se verá en el futuro. Pero estaban seguros de lo que han ganado en el mes de 2021 la guerra de los palestinos israelíos y el West Bank will join en la arena y han fallado. Entonces, lo que están intentando es usar sus mejores chicos en el West Bank. Estamos hablando de dos turistas de la familia de Kawasma es el corazón de Hamas en Hebron el mejor del mejor en el West Bank. Una legacia de terror. Una legacia de terror, sí. Uno de ellos, su padre, en 2003, ok. Es una familia de DNA. Esa es la apoyo de Hamas. Y lo que ellos intentan hacer es que ellos intentan escalar la situación en el West Bank. Entonces, el IDF tendrá que hacer lo mismo consecuencia que el 7 de octubre como el hombre mencionó. Y el IDF responde en una manera que actualmente flamará el West Bank. Este fue el plan, ok. Para abrir la arena en el West Bank por conducir un ataque terrible. Entonces, el IDF tendrá que actualizar a flamar el West Bank. Y también. Y sí, el hecho de que no sucedió no significa que no puede suceder todavía. Y es por eso que estamos still viendo IDF 4 ahí. They will continue with this. They will pull all their cards. They have he gone literally. Alright, Colonel Agustia Koboffic Gai Israel, 24 years senior correspondent editor. Thank you very much gentlemen for joining us on this broadcast. We will be back at the top of the hour with another bulletin as we continue a rolling coverage all day long until then you can stay updated online or on social media. Thank you very much for watching. En un estado de guerra, las familias son completamente abiertas en sus caballos. No tenemos ni idea de qué preocuparse, porque nuestros soldados están peleando en las fronteras, pero la percepción general es algo que necesita ser creado también. Vemos a la broadcasta especial aquí en I-24 News. Continuamos la cobertura de día 41 de la guerra aquí en Israel. En el sur, la idea es de mantener la operación surgical en el hospital de Dishifa, en el que una gran cantidad de armas, bombas y otras infraestructuras terrestres se han encontrado allí, incluyendo laptops, obteniendo algunas informaciones, fotos, vídeos de algunas de las 239 hostigías. Por lo tanto, en la frontera, rockets. Sí, rockets en la frontera. En el Strip de Degada se han encontrado hoy también. En la frontera del norte, las vítores de la guerra persisten. No hay contactos para llegar a la frontera del norte. No hay un acuerdo, no hay un breakthrough, pero los egipcios están reportando, o más o menos, escuchando la esperanza, que algunas de las fronteras de su labor estarán materializadas. Por lo tanto, Qatar está reportando, incluso, que no puede contactar con el líder de la frontera, Israelíos determinados para llevar todos los hostigías a casa. 239 de ellos, 41 días en captividad. Entre un precio y un coste. La caída de los hostigías es importante. Crescendo la vida, 24 horas en el Correspondimiento PSD con las familias de los hostigías, que están en el día 3 de la gran marcha, la gran marcha de la televisión, a Jerusalem, a Pia. Mucha conversación, un potenciamiento potencial, y esto es, obviamente, tomándolo en las familias también. Por supuesto, Ely, que también se ha hablado aquí. Ahora, las familias han departado de la ciudad de Mordeín. Están ahora en su camino a su siguiente paso. De nuevo, han dejado Tel Aviv en la tuesday. Están en su camino a la ciudad de Jerusalem, donde están expectativas de llegar. En el sábado, en fronte de el presidente Benjamin Netanyahu, una residencia. Ahora, aquí en Mordeín, visitaron a la familia de Noa Marciano. Ella era una soldad de IDF, que fue asesinada en Tugasa hace dos días. Eran anunciadas que ella fue asesinada. Ahora, las personas aquí, mostraron su solidaridad y su empatía. Aquí, mostraron su presentación en frente de la casa. El padre de Noa Marciano y su madre fueron asesinadas. Y la madre dijo que ella fue asesinada en ese marzo, y que es muy difícil para ella que esta es la manera en la cual fue asesinada. Y que fue muy difícil para ella hablar en el pasado sobre su hija, y que se ha hablado sobre la personalidad que su hija tenía. El padre ha hecho muy claro que la familia, no solo su familia, pero que las familias demandan un asesinado de todos los asesinados. Y también que demandan de los políticos para incluir a las familias en la decisión de hacerla. Ahora, no solo las familias han asesinado aquí, pero también sus amigos de la escuela, como pueden ver aquí detrás de mí, un número de amigos de FERS y el banner aquí, el postre, dice, ríe como si no hubiera pasado. Y estoy estando con uno de sus amigos de la escuela, Dana Schoenen. Quiero preguntarte, Dana, por qué fue importante para ti venir aquí hoy para mostrarlo? Ok, entonces, Noah fue, y aún así, mi mejor amigo. No hay nada más que puedo describir aparte de su risa, fue la cosa que hizo a todos saberla. Como mi mejor amigo, desde el 9º grado, siempre se sentía conmigo. Siempre sabía qué decirme cuando estaba tan mal o triste, o que solo necesitaba una buena palabra. Ya sabes, estoy aquí con la familia de Noah de la Chiva. Yo soy un soldado, también. Yo fui de mi base aquí cuando podía. Y la primera cosa que hice fue ir a la casa de la familia. Y, ya sabes, en las veces de la casa, me metí mucho. Y yo realmente... Muchas gracias, Dana. Es una impresión de cómo el sentimiento aquí es. Un montón de grifos, un montón de gente desesperada en términos de una, van a ver su amor de nuevo, porque Noah es un ejemplo de cómo las historias también pueden acabar. Pero, por supuesto, las personas que han estado aquí hoy, están muy distributeas. ¡Bien! ¡Gracias! Si! ¡Hola! Bueno, muchas gracias. ¡Bien! Bien, muchas gracias. ¿Cómo puedes ver el reto? Si, ya sabéis. ¡Muchas gracias! ¿Qué tiempo? es, es becoming clear and clear that the achievements on the ground cannot be detached from the issue of the hostages and vice versa. There is some sort of an outline on the table. 50 hostages, mother's children for three days pause, nothing is clear yet. Meanwhile again, as mentioned at the opening of our broadcast, a report, can't even contact Y es en oir en este trip. Some of the hostages being held by Islamic Jihad and civilian bottom line doxoshimoni can such a deal be trusted and at the same time, what's the alternative? We don't know about the deal, we have rumors, we have very, very partial information. We know that there's a lot of efforts to conclude a deal. We know that the Americans are involved and the Qataris are involved and the Egyptians are involved. And there's a great effort to try to strike a deal, but it didn't materialize yet, so we don't know what's going to be the outcome of it. We were debating within ourselves, should there be preference for children, or for women, or for soldiers, or for foreign passport holders, but it's irrelevant. The deal will be decided upon the parties, not only how many prisoners or hostages would be released, how will they be released, where will they be released, will the Egyptians be assisting here through their territory, will it be airlifted or sea born? We know nothing. It's a hostage negotiation, there's a lot of disinformation, a lot of rumors, a lot of false information. We still don't know. What we know is that the operation of the IDF at the Shifa Hospital, so far has yielded information, but not hostages or not live hostages. We know that intelligence was gathered, documents, computers, stuff like that, but no actual live hostages were recovered yet. Right, and reports that even bodies were retrieved by IDF forces, so to that point, exactly Dr. Shimoni, we want to head to the field, that 24 News correspondent, Robert Swift, on the Israel-Gaza border, Robert, the operation in Shifa, still on the way, but before we get to that sources, tell that 24 News this hour, that a number of relatives of Ismail Hania were arrested while attempting to flee from the northern part of the strip to the south. What can you tell us, what do we know? Yeah, so this includes the nephew and the husband of Hania's daughter. It's understood that at least one of them was detained at the hospital, and like you say, they were attempting to evacuate, to move further south. Now, it's worth stressing the fact that it has been reported that officially, neither of these two are connected with Hamas. Israel may come out with the information to contradict that in the future, as it gathers additional information, or it may be simply that they're being swept up in the operation in the hospital in order to gather as much intelligence as they can. And speaking to that point of the intelligence that is being collected, IDF spokesperson is saying some computers and other equipment containing videos, pictures of the hostages were found there. And at the same time, the El Shifa Hospital director telling El Jazeera, so not grain singular, but grains of salt here, the bodies were taken out from the hospital. Again, the operation's still ongoing. What do we know? So prior to the IDF going into the hospital, the same director had stressed the point that the hospital was struggling with the number of bodies that it had inside the premises. Essentially due to the lack of power, they were having a problem with this. Now, you can imagine that the IDF will be keen to try and understand if the bodies of any of the hostages are present there. It's possible that they are removing these bodies so that they can then screen them to essentially see who is amongst those dead people. Now, you can imagine it will be easier to do such a difficult form of investigation. It will be far easier to do that outside of Israel than it will inside the premises of the hospital, which remains a combat zone. But, you know, taking away bodies, it also could end up, optically, there may be not a great look for Israel and it could translate into additional diplomatic pressure if Israel can't explain its thinking behind that process. Yeah, well, war is a dirty business, isn't it? 24 News Correspondent, Robert Swift, thank you very much for this, much more from Robert later on in our broadcast. Back here in the studio with Dr. David Shimoni. Dr. Shimoni, again, the operation at the Sheef Hospital, still ongoing, we're not done yet. And yet, the IDF already thinking about the next stage. Not sure if that's the immediate next one or a few steps forward. The southern part of the Gaza Strip will have to be addressed sooner rather than later. We know from declarations by our leadership that, yes, the southern part of the Gaza Strip is a target. We know that yesterday the Air Force distributed leaflets through the air to residents, I think, of Jim Yunus, urging them to leave their homes and to prepare for their... The home, by the way, of Ihe Senwar himself. Yeah. Something he said before, Ihe Senwar, his relatives say that he cannot communicate because he has no electricity. That's why he can't communicate with Qatar. But again, we don't believe everything that comes out from there. Yeah, the operation is going to continue into the south as long as, again, we have Lihue, international Lihue to do that. And it also seems that the battles in the north are subsiding. So the main ground forces can be diverted now to the south while surgical work is done at the northern part of the city of Gaza. And Dr. Shimoni, as mentioned at the opening of the broadcast as the forces are going room by room, really trying to clear everything out. No hay sorpresas, por lo tanto. Pero los roquitos con cribsas, cribsas babes, sí, lo pueden ver ahora en tus screens, estos fotos que están siendo lanzadas en esta hora, ideas de las fuerzas, encontrando la cadena de los niños, con las cadenas de los niños, los cribsas, debajo de los roquitos. Israel sabe que esto es el enemigo que está sufriendo. La guerra asymmétrica, Obviously Hamas is committed to no international law, to no moral standards. And yet Dr. Shimoni, playing the devil's advocate here. In the eyes of the international community, did they quote unquote expected more to be found in such a raid on DLC for hospital? I think the raid is not ended yet. Yes. And there are many sections of the hospital that have not been entered to and examined. So I believe the expectation was and is to find much more evidence, although we already found a lot. I mean we found equipment, we found the idea, found explosives, weapons, information. Endless amount, the damage it can create is incomprehensible. And we're talking about, yes, an enemy who has nothing to do with international law, with the laws of war. And I think the international community should appreciate the way that the IDF is conducting its part of the army, of the war because we are trying to avoid any damage to civilians while the Hamas's doctrine is to hit civilians. Yeah. And the IDF forces entering the DLC hospital armed with medical supplies and Arabic speaking doctors to do just that. And to that point exactly Dr. Shimoni, I want to head now to Mr. Jason Greenblatt, CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League. Thank you very much, Mr. Greenblatt for joining us on yet another busy day on your end. And we're speaking today because there's a new episode of Musk versus ADL, an ex post overnight saying, and I'm quoting here, Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them, both also referencing words of minorities flooding Western countries, popular anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of course. In response, Mr. Elon Musk saying, you have said the actual truth and then goes to blame the ADL for promoting racism against white people. I genuinely, Mr. Greenblatt, do not even know what the question should be here. Yes, I mean, look, it's interesting when I think about the earlier segment and the story about seeing Hamas storing missiles and guns in children's bedrooms and hospitals, et cetera. Hamas exemplifies the kind of genocidal Islamic anti-Semitism that so threatens the Jewish state and Jewish people around the world. And then we have the wealthiest man in the world parroting the same kind of ugly prejudice that has also imperiled Jews for hundreds of years. I mean, just suggest that the ADL or Jewish people are anti-white. As a white person myself, I think it's pathetic and it's clearly wrong. But it feeds into the conspiracy theories of right wing extremists, of white supremacists, right? And so to see those words while we are looking at what's happening in Gaza, after Hamas committed the bloodiest attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust. I mean, to your point, what's the question? Because there really, there are no words to describe this kind of insanity. And to that point, Mr. Greenblatt, beware and behold, the BBC apologizing for what they say was an error in quoting, an IDF statement suggesting Israeli soldiers targeted medical teams and Arab speakers at the Al-Shifa hospital when the truth is, of course, the exact opposite. But my question to you is not whether too little, too late, but rather, I find it insane that this error was reasonable for them. As in, it's made sense to them that that was the quote. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, the blood libel of Jews trying to kill non-Jews has been around for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. And so in the first stages of this war, there was the blood libel about Israel intentionally attacking the hospital, a hospital in Gaza, which, of course, was the exact opposite of what happened. It was Islamic jihad, which launched a missile aimed at Israeli civilians that ended up exploding in the parking lot of a hospital. And yet so many members of the news media left that up there or barely corrected it when they were found to be wrong. But I must say, I mean, it is just, I just talked to an interviewer from a public radio station here in America who was quizzing me on whether Hamas is anti-Semitic. Like, it is amazing that we as Jews are gaslit, if you will, told by our enemies while they are trying to kill us that somehow we are the ones at fault. It's really sick. Yeah, blaming the victim that doesn't even start to illustrate that and adding more fuel to this boiling pot. Youngsters woke, but laden, I wish I was inventing that, but apparently bin Laden's post-911 manifesto is now an eye-opener for TikTokers, who, how do we reconnect them to reality, Mr. Greenblatt, what is happening here? We definitely have a problem when young people don't get their news. And by the way, there'd be challenges if they got their news for the New York Times and instead they're getting it from TikTok. So what do we have to do? Look, we as Jews, we as Zionists, we as people who believe in humanity need to work harder than ever before to get the story out there. We can't rely on the old techniques. We have to innovate to reach young people on TikTok or on side chat or on the other social media applications that they use. We have to tell our stories in short form video with memes, with the techniques that people use today. The onus is on us, we really have to do better. Yeah, to speak their language, one would think that the atrocities we've seen on October 7th would be sufficient enough and convincing them, I guess it's not, but we do want to end, perhaps, what the glass have for Mr. Greenblatt, this mass protest in Washington earlier this week, widespread support across the political aisle. Can it be maintained or rather, how can we make sure the support is being maintained? Not just for Israel, but for Jews in the US, of course. Yeah, I mean, look, there were Jews and non-Jews, Republicans and Democrats, and the Jews who were there of all levels of observance. I saw people in the crowd wearing MAGA hats and with pride t-shirts. Where else would you see that in America or in the world today? This was unity. This was Am Israel Chai, live and in person. We've got to build on this as a Jewish community. We've got to build on this as supporters of Israel. And look, this was energizing. This was inspiring. And this is our future if we get it right. And we will. And we keep on quoting and quoting this again and again, but it is how it is. We will win because there's simply no other choice and we will make sure that the sites from Washington will continue to be the case there. Mr. Jonathan. We know that we stand with you. And we stand with you. We're all in it together. And that's, again, perhaps the silver lining amidst all the darkness here. Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League. Thank you very much, Joe, sir, for speaking to us. And hopefully, we'll speak at better times as well. And now, most of us were obviously completely shocked when the atrocities of October 7th were revealed, being revealed day in, day out, even 41 days later. But for those who know Hamas, it didn't really come as a shock. Our I-24 News French defense correspondent, Madison Barr, spoke with Yaron Avraham, now an Israeli Jew, but he was born as an Arab Israeli en la ciudad de Vlaude, aquí en Israel, enviado a un Mosque en Gaza a an early age para ser educado. Para él, este nivel de crueldad y brutalidad, no sorprenderá. Nacón, ellos me enviaron a Gaza. No sé si conocen el nivel de educación en este Mosque, o si simplemente quieren irme. Me encontré en un Mosque, uno de los más extremos en Gaza. Ahí, me empezaron a obtener una educación muy radical, la que me estaba preparando por la muerte de los martes, lo que llamamos un Shahid. Por todo lo necesario, es una educación muy cruel, muy difícil. Mucha de esto es estructurada alrededor de la muerte. Estás dispuesto a recordar cada mañana que tu objetivo final es volver a la tierra tan rápido que posible, así que está caminando en cemeterias, en que se ve terrorizados por la idea, cazando sus manos, sus pies, para obtener inspiraciones para que queremos ser matados como ellos. La highlight de este entrenamiento, somos todos 13 o 14, nos ponen en grupos, nos ayudan a poner en un verdadero grado por 10 a 15 segundos mientras están sobre nosotros y recorren las versas de la Koran para inspirarnos, para invocar el sentimiento del momento de la ascensión cuando el sol rise a la tierra, la mitad de nosotros casi no lo hicieron, porque estamos tan asustados. Personalmente, me hicieron casi 15 años para obtener esa experiencia. Lo que dices es algo increíble, y he oído en otra entrevista, que es tan radical que pueden incluso convirtir el murder en frente de tus ojos. Hace un incidente en el que dos niños, 13 años de joven, que fueron asustados de ser íntimos con ellos, en alrededor de 4 a.m., fueron tirados de nuestros caballos, les explicaron a nosotros lo que los niños fueron acusados de, y luego les cortaron sus caballos en frente de nosotros. Hacieron esto para hacer un ejemplo de ellos, para instalar miedo, la cosa que vimos a las personas normales, se escuchó muy extremo, pero vivimos en un ambiente de muerte. Islam es una religión que sanctifica la muerte. Seguramente, para este grupo, muchas acciones están punishables por la muerte. Y desde su punto de vista, dos niños siendo inapropiables, íntimos o haciendo cosas dentro de la mosca, esto es algo que no pueden ver. Esto es una de las más severas defensivas en Islam. No es una cosa del pasado, es todavía sucediendo a este día. Las personas todavía flígan a Gaza y el West Bank sobre esto. Incluso los israelí-arrabes que tienen estas inclinaciones diferentes, van a salir de casa, y si están atrasados, están apuntados inmediatamente. Tres a cuatro meses atrás, una mujer que tomó parte en el Parade de Prado fue murderada en la entrada de su ciudad cuando regresó de la parada. Esto sucedió dentro de Israel, así que en Gaza, en una mosca como esta, no es lo que es extremo. Esto es lo que estoy intentando convivar. Esto es la mensaje, que estas cosas no son extremas. Ellos convierten en muerte y también son links a lo que vimos en octubre 7. Esta crueltad no me sorprendió. Estuve sorprendido que sucedieron, pero no lo que han hecho. No quiero juzgar a vosotros, pero lo que sucedió en octubre 7 no es incluso la altura de su crueltad. Ellos tienen muchas, muchas más métodos. Ellos les gustan juzgos simplemente porque son juzgos. No hay otra razón. ¿Los dicen que es por la ocupación? En el Koran, es escrito que el país de Israel fue leído a la gente de Israel. En el Koran, no en el Bible. Estuvimos arrojados con no hay razón. Es solo una cosa religiosa. Entonces, ¿qué es detrás de esa desgracia? Es por su desgracia. Vengo aquí en la ciudad con el Dr. David Shimoni. Dr. Shimoni, considerando lo que hemos visto esta mañana en Jerusalem, un intento para convivar el 7 de octubre tipo de un asesor en la ciudad, hay mucho que hablar de la día después, la autoridad de la palestina, un gran componente de los planos para el día después, para la iglesia, pero considerando que esta es la situación, ahí en el grado, en el Bank West, ¿cómo es feasible eso? Primero, creo que es feasible y creo que es inevitable. Creo que Israel va a ganar la victoria en esta guerra, pero una victoria militar no es una política. La política debería ser una solución política y eventualmente, sí, tendríamos que tratar de resolver el entorno medio-esco complex, que es el asesor palestiniano, debería ser, debe ser, apreciado lo que está pasando en Gaza. ¿Quién es regulando a Gaza, la relación entre Gaza y el Bank West? Por supuesto. Espero que un acuerdo de paz con Saudi Arabia, o con Lebanon, eventualmente, estas cosas deben ser adresas. Cuando hay un Lebanon, un Lebanon cohesivo, que es... Sí, esa es la situación en el medio-esco, y estamos entusiasmados en lo que está pasando aquí. Dr. David Cimoni, muchas gracias por ayudarnos en este programa. Hemos vuelto en el topo de la hora mientras continuamos la cobertura de día 41 de la guerra. Muchas gracias por ver, estamos en el topo de la hora. La guerra es en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente descuidadas en sus caballos. No tenemos idea de lo que está pasando, como los soldados están peleando en las fronteras. Pero la percepción general es algo que debe ser tomado también. Esta semana, en el 24, Israel bajo ataque. El 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reporten desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. El 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. El 24, únicamente en I24 News. As we continue our rolling coverage, day 41 of the war here in Israel. In the south, I.D. forces keep up the surgical operations at the Shifa Hospital after a massive amount of weapons and bombs and other terror infrastructures were all found there, including laptops, obtaining some information, pictures, videos of some of the 239 hostages. Meanwhile, under a crib, rockets. Yes, rockets under cribs in the Gaza Strip were found today as well. On the northern front, the many war there persist anti-tank missiles fired at Israel from Lebanon. Seventh attack since noon, claimed by Hezbollah forces there. It's trying to force Israel to make the first step, so to speak. And in Jerusalem, a terror attack that was said to be much, much more. Three West Bank terrorists, Hamas affiliated, of course, planned an October 7th-like massacre in the city. And all of this while appending hostage deal is underway or contacts to reach about hostage deal underway. Still no agreement, still no breakthrough, but the Egyptians are reporting or rather voicing hope that some of the fruits of their labor will be materialized. Meanwhile, Qatar is reportedly even unable to contact Hamas leader in the Strip, Yahya Sinwar, Israeli officials determined to bring all of the hostages home 239 of them, 41 days in captivity. The difference between a price and a cost. The return of the hostages is worth it. Crossing now live to our 24 News correspondent P.S. Tekelbach with the families of the hostages who are on day three of their big march, long march from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Pia, lots of talk of a potential deal and this is obviously taking its toll on the families as well. Of course, Ali, that is also discussed here. Now the families have just departed from the city of Mordeine. They are now on their way to their next stop. Again, they left Tel Aviv on Tuesday and they are on their way to Jerusalem where they are expected to arrive. On Saturday there they went to rally in front of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's residence. Now here in Mordeine they visited the family of Noa Marciano. She was an IDF soldier who was kidnapped in Tugasa and two days ago it was announced that she was killed there. Now people here showed their solidarity and their empathy here. They showed their presence in front of the house and Noa Marciano's father and mother came down and spoke and the mother said that she meant to take part in that march here and that it is incredibly heartbreaking for her that this is now how it came to an end and that was very difficult for her to speak in past tense about her daughter and she spoke about what a bright personality her daughter had and the father made it very clear that the family, not only her family but that the families demand one hostage deal because as you know there were reports about a possible hostage deal only including children or elderly. He made it very clear that he feels neglected first of all by the government that he demands one hostage deal, one including all the release of all hostages and also that he demands from the politicians to include the families in the decision making that they get into conversation with them. Now not only Noa's family showed up here but also her friends from school as you can see here behind me, a number of friends of hers and the banner here, the poster says smile as if there was no tomorrow and I'm standing here with one of her friends from school, Dana Sheenan. I wanna ask you Dana why was it important for you to come here today and to show up? Okay, so Noa was and still my best friend. There's no such word I can describe her besides her smile was the thing that made everyone know her. As my best friend since ninth grade she always stood here with me. She always knew what to say to me when I was mad or sad or I just needed a good word. You know why I'm here with Noa's family for the Shiva. I went from, I'm a soldier too. I went from the, from my base here when I could and the first thing I did is to go to the family's house and you know it's tough times and I miss her a lot and I really, sorry. Thank you very much Dana. Elie, that gives an impression of how the sentiment here is. A lot of grief of course. A lot of people being desperate in terms of one. They will see their loved ones again because Noa is one example of how the stories can also end. But of course most of the people who have been here today they still have hope that their loved ones will return safely and as soon as possible, Elie. My 24 news correspondent P.S. Takabakh. Thank you very much for this and joining us now here in studio for this broadcast, Dr. David Shimoni, comander at commanders for Israel security. Dr. Shimoni, thank you very much for joining us. It is important to note that Noa Molzano's body is to being held captive by Hamas and the guys ship alongside around 239 hostages. It is becoming clear and clear that the achievements on the ground cannot be detached from the issue of the hostages and vice versa. There is some sort of an outline on the table. 50 hostages, mothers, children for three days pause. Nothing is clear yet. Meanwhile, again, as mentioned at the opening of our broadcast, reporters can't even contact Yesenwar in the strip. Some of the hostages being held by Islamic Jihad and civilian bottom line Dr. Shimoni can such a deal be trusted and at the same time, what's the alternative? We don't know about the deal. We have rumors. We have very, very partial information. We know that there's a lot of effort to conclude a deal. We know that the Americans are involved and the Qataris are involved and the Egyptians are involved. And there's a great effort to try to strike a deal. But it still didn't materialize yet. So we don't know what's going to be the outcome of it. We were debating within ourselves should there be preference for children or for women or for soldiers or for foreign passport holders. But it's irrelevant. The deal will be decided upon the parties. Not only how many prisoners or hostages would be released. How will they be released? Where will they be released? Will the Egyptians be assisting here through their territory? Will it be eredifted or seaborn? We know nothing. It's a hostage negotiation. So a lot of disinformation, a lot of rumors, a lot of false information. We still don't know. What we know is that the operation of the IDF at the Shifa Hospital so far has yielded information. But not hostages. Or not live hostages. We know that intelligence was gathered, documents, computers, stuff like that. But no actual live hostages were recovered yet. Right, and reports that even bodies were retrieved by IDF forces. So to that point, exactly Dr. Shimani, we want to head to the field at 24 News Correspondent, Robert Swift, on the Israel-Gaza border. Robert, the operation in Shifa, still on the way. But before we get to that, sources tell at 24 News this hour that a number of relatives of Ismail Hania were arrested while attempting to flee from the northern part of the strip to the south. What can you tell us? What do we know? So this includes the nephew and the husband of Hania's daughter. It's understood that at least one of them was detained at the hospital. And like you say, they were attempting to evacuate to move further south. Now it's worth stressing the fact that it has been reported that officially neither of these two are connected with Hamas. Israel may come out with the information to contradict that in the future as it gathers additional information. Or it may be simply that they're being swept up in the operation in the hospital in order to gather as much intelligence as they can. And speaking to that point of the intelligence that is being collected, idea spokesperson is saying some computers and other equipment containing videos, pictures, off the hostages were found there. And at the same time, the El Shifa Hospital director telling El Jazeera, so not grain singular, but grains of salt here, the bodies were taken out from the hospital. Again, the operation still ongoing. What do we know? So prior to the idea of going into the hospital, the same director had stressed the point that the hospital was struggling with the number of bodies that it had inside the premises. Essentially due to the lack of power, they were having a problem with this. Now, you can imagine that the IDF will be keen to try and understand if the bodies of any of the hostages are present there. It's possible that they are removing these bodies so that they can then screen them to essentially see who is amongst those dead people. Now, you can imagine it will be easier to do such a difficult form of investigation. It will be far easier to do that outside of Israel than it will inside the premises of the hospital, which remains a combat zone. But taking away bodies also could end up... Optically, there may be not a great look for Israel and it could translate into additional diplomatic pressure if Israel can't explain its thinking behind that process. Yeah, well, war is a dirty business, isn't it? 24 News Correspondent Robert Swift. Thank you very much for this. Much more from Robert later on in our broadcast. The back here in studio with Dr. David Shimoni. Dr. Shimoni, again, the operation at the chief hospital is still ongoing. We're not done yet. And yet, the IDF already thinking about the next stage. Not sure if that's the immediate next one or a few steps forward. The southern part of the Gaza Strip will have to be addressed sooner rather than later. We know from declarations by our leadership that yes, the southern part of the Gaza Strip is a target. We know that yesterday the Air Force distributed leaflets through the air to residents, I think, of Gennunis, urging them to leave their homes and to prepare for their... The home, by the way, of Iri Senwar himself. Yeah. Something you said before, Iri Senwar, his relatives say that he cannot communicate because he has no electricity. That's why he can't communicate with Qatar. Pero, de nuevo, no creemos que todo que viene de ahí. Sí, la operación va a continuar hacia el sur, tanto que, de nuevo, tenemos Lihue, la internacional Lihue para hacer eso. Y también parece que las batallas en el norte están subsidiendo. Así que las principales fuerzas de la grama pueden ser convertidas ahora hacia el sur, mientras el trabajo surgical está hecho en el norte de la ciudad de Gaza. Y Dr. Shimoni, como mencioné, la abierta de su broadcast es que las fuerzas están viajando por la grama, realmente intentando aclarar todo, no hay sorpresas, o sea, pero los barrios en las cribsas, las cribsas babas, sí, lo pueden ver ahora en tus screens, estas fotos que están lanzadas esta hora, ideas de fuerzas, encontrando la cadena de los niños, con las cadenas de los niños, cribsas, debajo de los barrios. Israel sabe que esto es el enemigo que está haciendo. La guerra asymmétrica, obviamente, Hamas se convirtió en no internacional la ley, en no moral standard y yet, Dr. Shimoni, jugando la adecuación de los devos aquí. En los ojos de la comunidad internacional. ¿Habían, ¿expectado más de ser encontrados en una red en el hospital del chief? Creo que la red no ha terminado. Sí. Y hay muchas secciones del hospital que no han sido enterados y examinados. Así que, creo que la esperanza fue y es encontrar mucho más evidencia, aunque ya hemos encontrado mucho. O sea, hemos encontrado equipamiento, hemos encontrado la idea, hemos encontrado explosivos, armas, información. Y la cantidad de daños que puede crear es incompreensible. Y estamos hablando de, sí, un enemigo que no tiene nada que hacer con la ley internacional, con las leyes de la guerra. Y creo que la comunidad internacional debería apreciar la forma en que la idea es conducir su parte de la armada, de la guerra, porque estamos intentando evitar ningún daño a los civilianos mientras el Dr. Hamas quiera atender a los civilianos. Sí. Y la idea es entrar en el hospital del Dalshif armado con supply médicos y doctores hablan árabes para hacer eso. Y a ese punto exactamente el Dr. Shimani. Queremos ir ahora a Mr. Jason Green Blatcio y el director nacional de la Liga de Antidefirmación. Muchas gracias, Mr. Glouin Blatio, por ayudarnos a un otro día buscado en tu lado. Y estamos hablando de hoy porque hay un nuevo episodio de Mosque vs. ADL. Una exposición en la noche diciendo, y yo escribo aquí, que las comunidades han estado empujando el exacto tipo de dialectica de la patria contra los huesos que ellos decían que quieren a las personas para dejar de usar contra ellos, pero también reforzando a las minoridades flotando en países de occidente popular, anti-Semitic, conspiración y teoría, por supuesto. En respuesta, el Dr. Elon Musk dice que usted ha dicho la verdadera verdad, y luego va a desbloquear el ADL para promover el racism contra los huesos. En general, el Dr. Glouin Blatio no sabe lo que la pregunta debería estar aquí. Sí, yo digo, mira, es interesante lo que yo pensé sobre el primer segmento y la historia de ver a Hamas extender misiles y armas en cadenas de niños y hospitales, etcétera. Hamas exemplifica el tipo de genocidio, islamic anti-Semitism que es lo que trae el estado de la ciudad y los huesos alrededor del mundo. Y luego tenemos el hombre más puro en el mundo traer el mismo tipo de malas prejudices que también ha imperado los huesos por cientos de años. Yo digo que el ADL o los huesos son anti-suscríbitos como una persona whites yo creo que es profetario y es claramente mal. Pero se trae en las teorías de extender misiles de huesos supremacistas ¿Verdad? Y para ver esos huesos mientras estamos mirando lo que está pasando en Gaza después de que Hamas convierte el ataque del ataque del juicio a la costa. ¿Qué es la pregunta? Porque realmente no hay huesos para describir esta insanidad. Y a ese punto Mr. Greenblatt por favor desgraciado por lo que dicen fue un error encodiendo una de las propuestas de IDF sobre los soldados israelíos que targetaron los equipos médicos y los espacios en el hospital del LG cuando la verdad es, por supuesto, la misma oposición. Pero mi pregunta a vosotros no es si es un poco o un poco mas tarde pero a lo mejor lo encuentro insanece que esta era bien para ellos como es sentido para ellos que eso fue una cuota. Sí Bueno, lo que significa es que los soldados de los juzgos intentando matar a los nonjuzgos han estado por cientos y cientos y cientos de años. Y así en las primeras stages de esta guerra fue el soldado de Israel intentamente atacando el hospital un hospital en Gaza que, por supuesto fue la misma oposición que sucedió. Fue Islamic Jihad que lanzó una misión de los israelíos que tenían muchos miembros de la media de la noticia dejó eso ahí o ni siquiera correctó cuando estaban perdidos pero, tengo que decir es que he hablado de un entrevista de una estación de radio aquí en América que me pide que el Hamas es anti-semitic es increíble que nosotros los juzgos son gasolitos de los juzgos intentando matar a los nonjuzgos que no even even start to illustrate that and adding more fuel to this boiling pot youngsters woke bin Laden I wish I was inventing that but apparently bin Laden's post 9-11 manifesto was now an eye-opener for tech-talkers who how do we reconnect them to reality Mr. Greenblatt what is happening here? We definitely have a problem when young people don't get their news and by the way there'd be challenges if they got their news for the New York Times and instead they're getting it from tech-talk so what do we have to do look we as Jews we as Zionists we as people who believe in humanity need to work harder than ever before to get the story out there we can't rely on the old techniques we have to innovate to reach young people on tech-talk or on the other social media applications that they use we have to tell our stories you know in short form video with memes with the techniques that people use today the onus is on us we really have to do better to speak their language one would think that the atrocities we've seen on October 7 would be sufficient enough and convincing them I guess it's not but we do want to end perhaps with the glass have full Mr. Greenblatt a mass protest in Washington earlier this week widespread support across the political aisle can it be maintained or rather how can we make sure the support is being maintained not just for Israel but for Jews in the US of course yeah I mean look there were Jews and non-Jews Republicans and Democrats and the Jews who were there of all levels of observance I saw people in the crowd wearing maga hats and with pride t-shirts Where else would you see that in America or in the world today this was unity this was um Israel high live and in person we've got to build on this as a Jewish community we've got to build on this as supporters of Israel and I look this was energizing this was inspiring and this is our future if we get it right and we will and we keep on quoting and quoting this again and again but it is how it is we will win because there's simply no other choice and we will make sure that the sites from Washington will continue to be the case there Mr. Jonathan we know that we stand with you and we stand with you we're all in it together and that's again perhaps the silver lining amidst all the darkness here Jonathan Greenblatt CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League thank you very much sir for speaking to us and hopefully we'll speak at better times as well and now most of us were obviously completely shocked when the atrocities of October 7th were revealed being revealed day and day out even 41 days later but for those who know Hamas it didn't really come as a shock our I-24 News French defense correspondent Yaron Avraham now an Israeli Jew but he was born as an Arab Israeli in the city of Lod here in Israel sent to a mosque in Gaza at an early age to get educated for him this level of cruelty and brutality no surprise at all That's right they sent me to Gaza I don't know if they knew the level of education in this mosque or if they simply wanted to get rid of me I found myself in a mosque one of the most extreme in Gaza there I began to get a very radical education which was supposed to prepare me for a martyr's death what we call becoming a Shahid by all means necessary I mean it's a very cruel education very difficult most of it is structured around death you're forced to remember every morning that your ultimate goal is to return to the ground as quickly as possible so it's walking in cemeteries being taken to see terrorists killed by the IDF kissing them with their hands their feet to get inspiration so that we want to be killed like them the highlight of this training we were all 13 or 14 taking us in groups they'd make us lay in a real grave for 10 to 15 seconds while they stand over us and read aloud verses from the Quran to inspire us to evoke the feeling of the moment of ascension when the soul rises to heaven half of us almost didn't make it out of there because we were so scared personally it took me almost 15 years to get over that experience what you're telling is something unbelievable and I've even heard in another interview that it is so radical that they can even commit murder in front of your eyes there was an incident in which two children 13 year old boys who were suspected of being intimate with each other at around 4 a.m. we were pulled out of our beds they explained to us what the kids were accused of then they just cut their heads off right in front of us they did this to make an example out of them to instill fear this thing we witness to normal people it sounds very extreme but we lived in an environment of death Islam is a religion that sanctifies death certainly for this group many actions are punishable by death and from their point of view two boys being inappropriately intimate or doing such things inside the mosque this is something they cannot stand this is one of the most severe inclinaciones in Islam it's not a thing of the past it's still happening to this day people still flee Gaza and the west bank over this even Israeli Arabs who have these different inclinations they run away from home and if they are caught they are punished immediately three to four months ago a girl who took part in the pride parade was murdered at the entrance of her village as soon as she returned from the parade this happened inside of Israel so in Gaza in a mosque it's not regarded as extreme this is what I'm trying to convey this is the message that these things there are not seen as extreme they advocate death and it also links to what we saw on October 7th this cruelty did not surprise me I was surprised they succeeded but not what they've done I don't want to shock you but what happened on October 7th is not even the height of their cruelty they have many many more methods they hate Jews simply because they are Jews there's no other reason they say it's because of the occupation in the Quran it's written that the land of Israel was given to the people of Israel in the Quran not in the Bible we were taught blind hatred with no rhyme or reason it's just a religious matter so what's behind such hate it's because of their bigotry back here in the city with Dr. David Shimoni Dr. Shimoni considering what we've seen this morning in Jerusalem an attempt to commit a 7th of October type of a massacre in the city there's much talk about the day after the Palestinian Authority a key component of the plans for the day after for the Gaza Strip but considering that this is a situation there on the ground in the West Bank how feasible is that? First of all I believe it's feasible and I believe it's unavoidable I think I believe Israel will gain victory in this war but a military victory is not policy policy should be a political solution and eventually yes we would have to try to solve the entire Middle East complex which is the Palestinian issue should be must be addressed what's happening in Gaza who is ruling a Gaza the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank hopefully peace agreements with Saudi Arabia maybe with Lebanon eventually these things must be addressed when there is a Lebanon cohesive Lebanon that is yeah that's