 this game is boring please make me want to watch shut up just shut up if you don't want to watch then don't watch but don't watch the game and sit there and go oh I hate it never knew Peter that John McGracken was now hosting Golick and Winkle I gotta hear the whole thing that's the piece of it that's just a piece and it was a very angry Trey Wingo who who's a man that always has his emotions under control some might say strangely so but not today and he joins us now to explain what set him off Trey everything okay what the hell do you want Michael Wow what is going on with you man well what was the last time down look right I had a rant 86 days no that says 87 but we're over 90 by now all right so just just put me filling in for John McGracken one but something set you off Trey something something I mean such a calm gentle man you are probably the alarm clock after a long flight back from Atlanta no here's my thing and whether you like the game or not is fine but there's nothing worse than people that are that are watching and then telling me how much they hate watching it yet they won't stop watching it but you I mean listen I loved what you said but you don't have a choice you have to continue to watch it's a national holiday of course you do you have a million channels you can watch whatever you want so what are you gonna watch the handmaid's tail I mean what are you gonna do why not you love that show the 12th state game if you want you don't have an option Trey Trey this is why you don't have an option not that's Super Bowl Sunday do you remember the show yes okay remember created that show Stephen Bosco was sure and that show is very controversial because they pushed the language and all this kind of stuff and Bosco said if you don't like it then change the bleepity bleep channel not the same thing here's the same thing alright here is the exact same thing a Michael can appreciate this we both were fans of how I met your mother we watched it from the very beginning that show okay I loved it for a while but then over the last couple of seasons it really got lame and I really hated watching it bored me to tears but you know why I watched because I wanted to find out who the mother was so I had to stick with it so in a Super Bowl I'm a football fan I'm being bored to tears but I have to watch because I want to see how it ends and maybe if it ended like Tennessee St. Louis which was another boring Super Bowl but it comes down to a one yard to possibly win the game then it would have been worth it but when that doesn't happen I think it's okay to just say you know what that was boring and I don't think changing it is an option look you can have your opinion that's fine my point is don't sit there and hate watch it because then you're then you just wasting your own damn time but there was no op to Don's point there's no option I hated the game but for you guys there's no option because that's your job no not even that though because you already you're already the place where you've convened with friends you spent the money on the wings and pizza you're all there for it to then be like get through so that's let me let me throw on let me throw a WrestleMania 3 instead granted I would have been much more entertained but it doesn't make sense I watched not done it wasn't just yesterday we watched the whole season you watch the whole season you got to see how the whole thing plays out I don't see why I'm not allowed to complain that that game stunk it's stunk tray it wasn't some great defensive battle it wasn't the Ravens in 2000 or the Bears in 85 great scheming by two the Ravens in 2000 mean the Ravens that beat the Giants 34 to 7 and that Super Bowl now that Super Bowl stunk that and by the way I made a joke yesterday I missed that Super Bowl at least I've taken 34 set a Ravens fan could watch like seven or eight glorious highlights they're going to be a part of their history I'm not even sure a Patriot fan is going to remember anything that happened in the Super Bowl well see them then would become blinded to what we're seeing and we're not understanding what we're watching no that's don't talk to me like that trade I'm not trying to play the ignorant card with me I follow football I covered it for 16 years with the Jets but that doesn't mean I was entertained by it I don't see but those are two different things those are two different things you just said you understood what you're watching but you weren't entertained by it those are two separate things I can understand how you weren't entertained but understand what's going on there so what was the last time you saw Tom Brady lead team or a Bill Belichick coach team burned two timeouts with six minutes to go in the first quarter that was weird not entertaining that was great now why do you think that happened because great defensive game hell by what weight Phillips was doing there was great coaching and great game planning going on in that game and that's not your thing I get it but that's what was going on and that's what people need to understand it was brilliant yeah but you believe the two best coaching staffs in football each had two weeks to prepare and they came up with masterful plans that absolutely undermine what the other team was trying to do I appreciate that part of it I appreciate the wizards chess part of it the Bobby Fisher element of going up against the all these people and matching them move from that part I really appreciate no I understand that but but also you know it does kind of come across is like well you just don't understand the game that's why you weren't entertained by it I mean there's a lot of people that follow the sport that word and I am a lot I know but I think a lot of people didn't understand that a lot of people I really believe that but I grew up on defense I one of the greatest games I ever saw was that Monday night football game in 90 between the giants and the 49ers the game ended 7-3 tremendous game I'm seeing hits I'm seeing quarterbacks under pressure defeated next game going in they're both 10 and 1 yeah but but you didn't see like now you're not allowed to have massive hits the quarterbacks weren't under tremendous the resume like one team had like nine sacks or anything what you see in this day and age because you don't you're not allowed to hit and you're in the overprotectants of the quarterback is what great defense ends up being aesthetically is a bunch of incomplete pasts and so you can understand even football fans saying you know what that's but that's a chess game and that doesn't entertain I don't agree with like try busting a gut but I was not bored by that game it wasn't to me it wasn't it wasn't aesthetically pleasing but it was fascinating I mean I mean Wade Phillips and Bill Belichick put on a clinic on how to play defense against great offensive teams absolutely I mean look to me this was look here's you know what I'll remember that game for more than anything else I swear to god this is true that is Bill Belichick's masterpiece that game was Bill Belichick understanding how to play and can coach this game better than anyone I've ever seen do it because there was at no point in this season did we say hey you know I really think the Patriots are the best team of football and then they ended up being once again the best team of football with the team that never really figured out their rhythm of their pattern in the entire season and up against the two teams they beat down the stretch the number one and number two scoring offenses they found a way to get it done defensively and find a way to win it scrap it out I think this was Bill Belichick's best coaching season of his career I thought it was amazing and if you watched a ESPN afterward Steve Young said listen I'll do respect to Julian Adelman this one Belichick was there he said you're the MVP of this game what you did today was a masterpiece you're the MVP and I agree with him and that part and that part I mean Michael you're a huge baseball guy right there are there are baseball games that other people will think were boring right but you'll appreciate the things that you see and then the double switches and all this kind of stuff and the moves that the manager makes at the right time in the right place uh I'm fine by the way if the game was so boring it was only a five percent loss from from last year's Super Bowl right last year's Super Bowl was the ninth rated thing in the history of the televised magic box so it was only five percent down from one of the top 10 greatest pro they might have been Super Bowls that people were bored with before but Twitter now gives everybody a mega correct correct you know by the way let me ask you a question how did that game stack up in your minds watching it to the Giants beating the Patriots in Super Bowl 42 they didn't it had a higher rating that may be so Trey and you may have really enjoyed the coaching aspect and it was impressive no doubt about it however had the Patriot watching what Belichick did was great however to me sorry am I going to be so excited that down the road I saw I got to see the great job that Wade Phillips did on the Patriots offense no I would have at least enjoyed it if it was just 27 to 3 you can't deny that when it's just punt after punt both teams no one takes advantage and not because you're seeing don't get me wrong there was great coverage Marcus Peters had great plays there was good stuff that you saw but I it's cool that you appreciated it but it's kind of being like the cool football guy in the room he is I love the game of football I watch it every single week for way too long I was bored to tears I mean what do you want me to say to that I mean that's sort of what I do that's what I did for 15 years of living I mean that's but I would say it's more a you thing right and everyone else what I what I heard your rant this morning I I thought of myself every time I watch like an amazing Stanley Cup final and I see the ratings are garbage and everybody telling me boy that was boring and I go no you don't get it you're not seeing it the way that I see it right and then I realized I learned but you know what that's that's my bad that's my problem not everybody else's problem that's my problem because the rest it's wham bam thank you man for a lot of the rest of the world that they're not going to sit there that's why chess is an immensely popular because people don't want to sit there and and watch two brilliant people I'm not saying they knocked off each other's plans I'm using chess as an analogy of trying to outthink the other person right and I'm not actually saying that game was I mean a chess game was being exciting if that's not what I'm saying I'm using it as an analogy no no I get but what I'm saying is is that there can be somebody that loves chess that just doesn't understand why people do not love this game because they just don't they they're looking for something else to entertain them I'm fine with that portion of it my problem was don't sit there and tell me how much you hate it as you watch the whole thing change the channel go do that that takes ridiculous yeah that's too strong you know what you know what it can be ridiculous for you it's not for me wow yeah but you're wrong in this case you can't trade no human being who invited people to their house to watch the Super Bowl is turning on Netflix at halftime you can't I'm stuck with the stupid game I'm stuck I've been stuck with the red skins they're a disgrace I'm still stuck because if I did you think I'm leaving the game at halftime so that's that's that's the choice you're making yes it's a choice I'm making but we are cracking when it comes to this game I'm hooked the needles in the arm I can't pull it out at halftime it was a three nothing game it was a one possession game until the very end look I I I get what you're saying I only I might mild my specific issue and I swear to you is only people that are oh this game is terrible good but I'm still watching I just don't I don't think what what Peter is saying I don't think that's realistic on this on this day you know you you got to write it out I mean just it's it's the way that it has to because if there ends up being a because no here's why you have to because if they kick the field goal and they get the onside kick with five seconds to go and there's a Hail Mary touchdown you would have missed one of the greatest moments in the history of the sport so you got to write it out just to see but after that doesn't happen right you can analyze it and say I was bored this is good this is good so let me get this straight your whole argument now is that it could have been the greatest comeback in the history of the world right now so you just said if they say if you think I know you didn't say that he didn't say that but a great ending it could be yeah so in other words my whole point is that it couldn't have been that terrible if that scenario still played itself out with five seconds of play