 I've cast it's what you're so what you're saying. We'll do the show from Mexico City if we get 6,000 patrons There you go. Okay. Hey, let's do it No, when we do the show from Mexico City, do we all move there or is it just one show? I think to start we just do a show Yeah, it goes. Okay. All right, that's cool. Yeah, you don't want to over commit We do want to get paid in dollars and spend it pesos I want to go to a an actual like live luchador match. There's a huge stadium or Not event center arena arena and in the heart of mexico city that my My dad's old cook used to go to when he was a kid He said that's where all the matches happen all the big Matches with the luchadors and stuff. I totally want to go because I was so fun I wouldn't seem like the the awesomest thing ever I'm sure just to know something about that I went to a lucha leeway Show at the film or in san francisco, which is obviously very small Compared to a large arena, but it was Really fun Wait, uh, who's this? Uh lucha Doris like a lucha door. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, Mexico City is famous for that. Uh, obviously the uh Two big promotions are triple a which tours a little bit more and then cmll, which runs out of it's the oldest north american Uh, uh wrestling federation that runs every friday out of out of ena mexico but uh, that's Mexican, uh, the top of the mexican wrestling is like alternatively insanely athletic Uh, and really fat and lazy Like it's like it's both both spectrums or oh, yeah How does it conquer both? Well, I mean just the the the stars there are stars forever And uh, they they can grow as fat as they want and everyone will always love them As long as they wear the mask and do the do the moves Uh, and then the young guys are insane because the the the level of athleticism there is just off the charts I see. Yeah, beyond that. There's also, uh Man are are there different societal norms in in, uh, mexico than there are here in the united states. It's uh it's a different, uh Yeah, I think things that you might find uh less than tasteful Full fully uh fully in in in gear. I imagine it works the other way too. Like versus probably incredibly insulting Although you don't see it because they don't do it Sure. Yeah, wish I knew more about what you're referencing. Uh, I'll use my imagination. Yeah, uh, uh They have a thing in in mexico called the uh exoticos and they are uh Uh men who uh, you know act in a very effeminate manner. Oh, okay. I'm very familiar with what you're talking about now Yeah, yeah exoticos. Okay, and that's one of those things where it's like it's not drag It's not like an element of like, oh, well, we're doing a thing. It's From an american perspective a lot of it is ha ha ha laugh at the gay guy Look at what the gay guy did. Sure. I grabbed the other guys, but and and now he's gonna get punched for it Uh, uh, yeah, no, I I know exactly what you're talking about So it's it's it's look it's its own thing. I'm not I'm uh, I'm just you know Just one of those things that you notice when you're watching of mexican Well, but okay, are the exoticos beloved to people, you know, it's some are sure. Yeah, you're rooting for them Some are some are villains. Uh, so Uh, it's just look it's one of those things that I think that there can be art within it uh, but We especially now I think we are more in an era of Understanding what the lines are than we are understanding and appreciating whether or not The art exhibits in between them And and and that's just a cultural difference All right, speaking of culture Speaking of culture That I'm realizing now I should have just said mexican wrestling it's great But instead I wanted to get into this cultural discussion. So I apologize Okay All's well a night attack album available Here we go. You guys ready? Yep. Yep in three two Patrick patrini has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like patrick become a dts member at patreon.com slash dtns This is the daily tech news for Tuesday, january 22nd 2019 in los angeles. I'm tom merit and from studio feline I'm sarah lane from oakland, california. I'm justin robert young and from the fringes of elli county I'm the show's producer roger jake and of course justin robert young on on the tuesday instead of a thursday Because he has a top five comedy album out today with our other guest on today's show Mr. Brian brushwood Over here first of all, it's a number one comedy album It was a top five all albums on itunes for temporarily Number three, but the point is Yes, we we we finally both made it. It was a big thing when we we had this album coming out It was like hey, justin, you know what's the thing we've never done before is shown up like as a duo Like either one or the other of us goes on things finally. We're doing it together Yeah, and i'm i'm i'm i'm super proud of the album I think it's great all as well a night attack album available now. We'll talk a little bit more about it But yeah, we're going to talk to these guys a little bit about The things they had to go through to get an independent album out on the internet They've been doing this more than once this isn't their first time through so we'll learn from them in a bit Let's start with a few tech things you should know Sources tell the wall street journal that apple may drop lcd's all together from the iphone line Next year in favor of o led screens and will also reportedly be launching a 5g iphone in 2020 However, the company is still expected to release an lcd screen successor to the 10r later this year The wall street journal sources say foxconn is considering moving the iphone's manufacturing to india boxconn chairman chairman 20 Yeah, terry gu supposedly plans to visit india to research the idea apple Already produces its iphone se in india in order to help it navigate laws requiring retail stores to stock a percentage of goods manufactured inside the country foxconn supposedly wants to make sure it can find enough skilled workers And the appropriate infrastructure and then they might be good to just move it to india anyway That's the growth market and china's sort of topping out Microsoft introduced a range of windows 10 devices for the education market including two and ones and laptops from acer del and lenovo All around three hundred dollars lenovo actually announced its 100 e now available for 189 bucks So these are some cheap laptops Microsoft also introduced the microsoft classroom pen With a hardened tip and replacement tip and a slot for tethering to devices for classrooms that are kind of hard on this stuff It'll ship with the surface go in all markets in february and also sell impacts of 20 to schools For about 40 dollars per pen microsoft also announced its giving code jumper its project to teach programming to visually impaired students To the american printing house for the blind to implement The michigan economic development corporation approved an eight million dollar grant for wemo and magna to build a manufacturing facility for autonomous carts The goal is to move into a facility somewhere in southeast michigan by mid-year and prepare to make level four vehicles Waymo has supplier partnerships with both fiat chrisler and jaguar land rover and right before the show the u.s Department of Justice affirmed it will seek extradition of always chief financial officer meng wang jiu She is accused of misrepresenting links to a firm that tried to sell equipment to iran in violation of u.s Sanctions us has until january 30th to file a formal request for extradition And after that's done canada has 30 days to determine if there is enough evidence to justify the extradition All right, let's talk a little bit more about netflix Yeah, we know roma got 10 nominations for oscars, but that's not what we're gonna talk about is it justin No political reports netflix is in advanced talks to join the motion picture association of america The mpda is currently made up of disney paramount sony universal Warner brothers and fox although fox will leave when disney finishes its deal to acquire it According to politico bringing companies that like netflix into the fold Has been a goal of the mpda CEO charles rivkin who took over the association in september of 2017 So i know it's a goal of the mpaa, but what does it do for netflix? Oh, it gets them into the power structure. I mean the look netflix has been on the outside looking in because of all of these movie studios relationships with movie theaters That that is the thing that stops every element of netflix getting rewarded for Uh motion picture awards and and and stuff like that So the more that they are a part of the work a day element of this process the more that they are Better off in terms of rewarding talent and producers with what they want I suppose so at the same time. I wonder how much netflix itself Which obviously makes a lot of money and has only grown year over year cares about the old guard I understand the directors and producers sure, uh because we're still working within a system, but Yeah, I don't know. I could be wrong the mpaa is existing studios want to keep netflix from tearing up the ground with the theaters They want to put pressure on the theaters too though. So yes, you're right It's it's definitely to the advantage of these studios netflix Is withdrawing itself from the internet association and entering this because they want to be seen as an entertainment company They they want to be seen as a studio and they want to come to the theaters not as A startup an outsider. They want to come to the theaters saying hey, we've got five other friends with us Uh, you need to agree to a smaller window for our movies and theaters Remember roma was one of the first movies where netflix said fine We'll give you a small window of exclusivity in theaters. We're just not going to agree to 90 days So they've showed that they're willing to compromise now Uh, and and I think they want that extra leverage of you know, we got some friends with us too This is also a good time to remember that the mpaa exists because it was a preemptive strike on government Intervention about who could see what kind of movie and what kind of situation The idea was let's self police before the government has the opportunity to come in and tell us what kind of movies What kind of stories we can and can't tell so in that regard if uh, if they were to exclude netflix His only move would be to maybe spend a few money on some lobbying dollars and make a lot of trouble for the mpaa Yeah, by the way, uh, unsolicited plug This film is not yet rated as a great first half of a documentary before they start dumpster diving and doxing people Correct Moving on the french data protection watchdog cnil issued its first gdpr fine citing google 50 million euros the fine comes from the onboarding process when setting up a new android phone The regulatory body found the process lacks transparency as google uses intentionally Quote broad and obscure End quote language and requires clicking through five to six links to find out how information is used to personalize ads Cnil also found that google broke gdpr data consent rules by not providing specific and unambiguous consent options And pre-taking an agreement to its privacy policy the fine stems from a may 2018 complaint from the nonprofit No, yd or noid You can't avoid the noid. I think it's noid actually Well, you can't avoid the noi be there. Yeah Well, apparently you can you just call it noid Well, because it stands for none of your business that's uh noib. Got it. Got it. They're trying to be uh They're trying to be privacy oriented here. This is a this is a precedent though This is definitely the first test of okay There's that vague language in the gdpr that says you've got to make this understandable to people And a lot of folks have looked at this as hope for the future that terms of service Could be made understandable to people instead of burying things in miles and miles of legal text And the french data protection watchdog Coming up on the side of the consumer saying yeah, we know technically you followed the rules here But it's not easy enough for people to see what their choices are You can't bury it down in the menus. You can't pre-tick options. You got to make give it a make it a real choice Well, and obviously when it's I know that's a slap on the wrist when it's google Of course, you say well google doesn't care about 50 million euros And no, that's true google can afford it But it does help behave your change for smaller companies for google that you know the entire industry If you're going to get your hand slapped repeatedly By again having having these practices that are misleading consumers as as cn i'll see it cn i'll found It it does change the behavior over time google may not care about 50 million But they sure care about precedent for the gdpr and a lot of these companies Do as well and they should South china morning post has an article about china's free trade zone on hainan island south of hong kong It's kind of right off the coast east of vietnam tech startups there can get free rent Reduced taxes easier visa policies for their workers that that island already has a tourist visa where you basically don't need a visa You can you can visit that island for 30 days without a visa even if you're coming from the usuk, etc As well as access to government-backed funding microsoft and singapore's temasek temasek backs ali baba and tenset So they they have some interest in china have both agreed to develop the island and talks are underway with ibm and sap to establish Asian regional headquarters there Huawei group one of the world's biggest cryptocurrency exchanges moved its operation center to the island's blockchain pilot zone earlier last year The free trade zone was ordered in april 2018 and will be fully operational by 2020 Ali Baba's jack ma compared hainan to hong kong as a modern version of hong kong a digital free trade port Though companies still have to register with the government. They still have to file documents with multiple government agencies It's it's not as free as the free trade port Might be but i've found this just an interesting concept that you know china has about a dozen of these free trade zones I think shanghai probably being one of the most famous But making one on an island near hong kong as sort of an alternate alternate hong kong Where they say hey bunch of rules aren't going to apply. We're going to make it easier to start up Is something to keep an eye on Sure, I mean kind of seems like china trying to have their cake and eat it too But uh, look if the way that you can spur economic development in your country is by openly allowing people to ignore your laws God bless you Well, you know one country two systems with them in hong kong now it could be one country two and a half systems Why not but like I said they have they have other free trade zones like this where they say Hey, we'll make it easy for foreign companies to come in and operate here As long as they just operate here and not throughout I think what justin's saying between the lines is and I think we all Agree with this is that season three of the wire was the best when hamster dam was a fantastic idea Outside of what's acceptable Yeah, and whoever's in charge of it better be careful if it's too successful. Sure What's apps vice president for policy and communications victoria grand announced that going forward All users would be limited to forwarding messages to a maximum of five recipients The move is an attempt to limit the spread of misinformation and rumors And is a global expansion of what the company rolled out in india in july Previously forwards could be sent to up to 20 recipients this is of course coming from the fact that there were issues where Rumors about somebody being you know having committed a heinous crime would spread virally on on platforms like whatsapp that would Could often result in deaths in some cases. Yeah, no, there were lynchings in india And and it was largely attributed to communications on whatsapp and whatsapp stepped up there with full page ads In the papers and implementing these controls to try to reduce the effect To me and we've been covering this on dts. So if you've been listening to dts You're you're familiar with what was going on in india already to me Whatsapp is doing a much better job than their parent company at dealing with these sort of issues Maybe because they have less light shine directly upon them and most parts of the world But figuring out how to dissuade Behaviors with universal rules rather than then sort of pasting on a bunch of reviews and and weird things like facebook does I don't know This seems to me like it's it's this It's a solution to a problem that is not actually a solution So the problem is that people are spreading misinformation and fake news So if you can if you can share some some bogus article with 20 people and now you can only share it with five Okay, it's going to make things spread less rapidly, but it doesn't change the inherent problem itself But they did it in it. This is why I like it They did it in india and saw that it had an effect So They they want to step on that electric moment When you need to do something now and you need to spread it now when we need to go and kill this guy Right now and that that mob is going to get so big that law enforcement can't do anything with it And if this is a if this is a slight A crippling of a feature That can put just that little bit of a break on those moments Then I can understand why they're going to do it because look the the trend both in america and worldwide is putting more Uh onus and responsibility on the platforms that are facilitating this so I don't blame them for doing And the bad actors, uh, there were bad actors who just wanted clicks Uh, and would spread these messages Massively like spam and now they can't do that because they can only spread to five at a time For example, if you were going to spread to five people at a time that all's well a night attack album was available on itunes Would that would be okay, but you'd only still only be able to send it to five. Wow reverse the rule 20 Too much reality Okay, this is a great story guys, uh back in italy a project involving cremona This is a city in in italy's museo de violino Violin museum is attempting to record notes from each strativarius That's a type of violin in its collection to preserve it for future generations After a certain age these violins would have an era irreproducible tone Become too fragile to be played so they have a shelf life So four musicians will play sounds from two violins of viola and a cello for eight hours a day Six days a week for one month They'll be recorded by 32 ultra sensitive microphones and stored in the strativarius sound bank Uh cremona's mayor who is also president of the strativarius foundation. So Um, obviously a violin um enthusiast has ordered the streets around the museum to be closed And also asked the people of cremona not to make noise during the day Former dj leonardo tedeschi had the idea for the project and also thanks to kv 87 for bringing this to our attention in our subreddit Uh, this is one of those times when the new york times did a great job with with with their article They start with a woman in a coffee shop in the area that's been asked to be quiet Accidentally breaking a glass and they end the story With the fact that the folks recording this noticed that that glass had been dropped in that coffee shop a couple blocks away out Yeah, ultra sensitive microphones indeed. Yeah, and uh, this is a great use of digital technology For historical preservation. I mean these violins Are 500 years old in some points In some parts cannot be reproduced nobody can figure out what makes a strativarius different and So there is no way to reproduce them after they become too fragile and eventually they'll all be too fragile But if you record it the way they're recording it They're not only be able to share that tone with people but also be able to let people play it electronically By reproducing those sounds man worth noting that there have been double blind experiments in which people attempted to figure out whether or not there's truly something magical about a strativarius versus Uh a currently made uh viola or or cello or whatever and and nobody's been able to reproduce any kind of like once you go double blind Uh Forget it. It's time. That's that's what they say. That's the old saying right there Yeah, I well, what's interesting is uh, it was a dj who had the idea for the project because that's what djs do they take When you sample sounds they actually do this with high end synthesizers You can get a steinway piano in a in a chord keyboard because you can buy and download the sample set And reproduce it, you know, and you map it to the keyboard Essentially, this is what they want to do with the strativarius But it's it's interesting that it took like a dj to kind of kickstart it Even though the technology around like more than a decade So finally, we'll be able to get that 400 year old strativarius loops on on the new migos Hey folks, you want to get all the tech headlines each day to five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com now. They didn't use 32 ultra sensitive microphones They didn't have to shut down traffic in austin, but these two fine gentlemen joining us today have created This is your fifth comedy album. Is that right if comedy album This hopefully will be the third that debuts at number one on the billboard comedy charts And it is the first that includes Of I think either 50 50 or or majority music Uh, yeah, it's certainly uh, certainly the majority of everything that's good about this album Was not created by Justin and I right like I think we can verify that but but but this is um This feels more alchemy than science right because the rules are a constantly shifting landscape somewhere Is an institution? multiple institutions some are emerging like the itunes store or the amazon charts or uh, let's say let's say in the literary world the wall street journal top 10 or the new york times bestseller list or whatever Like everybody is trying to pledge and wave their hands and say here lies legitimacy But they don't want to say we're the king makers who are deciding this stuff and so Folks who are creatives like just robert young and myself are constantly left trying to figure out like uh Okay, so what matters a lot of people buying it? Uh, let's try figuring out a way to get a lot of people to buy it and then uh, and then they say okay Well from now on now there you can't get away for two cents. Uh, you have to charge a bigger amount It's like great. Okay. Uh, let's work this out. What did we look for here? Yeah So even though there's not this isn't a how-to tell us some of the things that you have done that seem to have worked Well, here is the first thing that now that we've seen that this has had and just for the record At least on day one. This has had far more traction than I think anything that we have done on itunes at the very least has We'll see how that translates going forward, but For uh for for all as well. We we did we kind of went back to a strategy This is the first thing that we first album that we've come out in a little while that would technically be considered a single album It is under 50 minutes. So therefore it would not be considered a double album Which means that we could charge the lowest that billboard will allow which is $1.99 That is that is the bargain basement price what we think at least Hours into understanding that we had a lot more traction than we thought we did Is part of the secret sauce is that now this is the first time that we've released something while streaming was the dominant way that people get music and so $1.99 Is a bit of a no-brainer price if you want to support us That you you're like, all right. Well, I'll buy it and they'll just listen to it on Spotify or absolute You get double you get double support You get double count from that because you had somebody who wanted to spend it to help you guys out But then also is contributing streams that also count towards the ranking as well Yeah, if we say, hey, look, uh, we're it takes according to billboard It takes like anywhere between seven and 20 Streams to count as a full album download you can cheat and get that for $1.99 So play, you know pay your $1.99 tax and then listen to it wherever you want Now somebody in the chat room has already pointed out because uh, folks love to point things out That it's not $1.99 everywhere But that's part of the problem in the agility of these stores Explain a little bit about that. Well, the uh, so uh, some of the stores you have to post it Officially then alter the price to whatever the price you want it to be like there's a default price that has to be altered after the fact Of them as best we understand, you know, the big three are google play amazon and and itunes Itunes is the only of the three that will launch at exactly the price that you would say we would like to launch At this price. So meanwhile, we find ourselves in this weird lag Between, you know, like like hurry up amazon. We'd love for you to get the price, right? Hurry up google play on and on we go but An artifact of that is absent either of those other channels. There are people who say, okay I hate itunes. I hate apple. I hate everything But i'm excited for this moment. And if I have to do something Fine, i'm gonna i'm gonna give my dollar $1.99 to this one platform and as a result Not only like we've had multiple albums launched at number one on the comedy charts I don't know justin that we've ever Gone, uh, this stratospheric and in the general charts before no, yeah No, we have we have never seen uh this kind of of traction and part of that is You know, uh, the the fact that google and amazon don't make their money on music by and large They have great music stores But they both run off the same back end that you then have to get in touch with somebody At google and amazon who then have to take the deliberate step for them to not make as much money as they would If it were listed at nine dollars, right? You just listed at the price you want to list it at They just don't give you that option. No, no they have to get it And then they have to go and change it and that's just a again It's because amazon doesn't do a lot of music sales Comparably to other stuff that they do for apple Music has since the era of steve jobs been very important that the itunes store was very important in Getting the apple brand out to people who are windows users and stuff like that So they have built a very agile Platform so here is strangely one of the benefits to the way everything has unfolded Because if let's say in an alternate universe all three platforms had done exactly what we wanted and launched at $1.99 We might have a bit of a complication of say Just telling everybody everybody buy it. It's $1.99 everywhere But by virtue of some people being good about launching at the intended price and others not now We have a very simple story that has resulted now one Exactly one platform is where everybody's diverting their efforts And so now you know the fact that we hit number three out of all albums full stop on itunes and guess what? Here's the best part tomorrow I'm not technically a wizard or a mentalist But i'm going to guess that if If amazon were to finally Get the price set right then all of a sudden we would be handed a new narrative of like Finally now you could buy it on the other place and i'll we'll see a similar version of what we've already seen so far today Uh, and that and that's the biggest thing is in a world where there's no mono culture and everything That you see is what you surround yourself with then the idea of us charging into the void And and upsetting the apple cart on like the new future album We're we're we're trying to hire a future album right on on itunes, uh, and and we will i mean unfortunately uh The way that cd. Baby categorizes things uh, we Just had to list ourselves as spoken word. That was the first thing is cd. Baby says, okay Well, what kind of genre are you and it's country rap rock and roll I mean it's called cd. Baby Yeah Not just A huge surprise they would be limited so we had to be spoken word and then a subsection of that is comedy So when amazon gets it and again amazon just gets That there's one gigantic big back-end feed that then they are using their own algorithms to sort out We are not a comedy album on amazon. We are a spoken word album And they don't dig down a level because uh, just the way that yeah way that that system works. And so we had the very very very uh weird sensation Uh, uh yesterday as we realized we looked at on on where we were trending on the spoken word charts And found out that we had displaced Martin Luther King's I have a dream speech on martin king day It's a complicated feeling Comedy category at that moment. I really really wish they would have been a little bit better about this. This is not It's like yay. No boo boo to us I'm I'm ashamed. I apologize Well, you know who I'm not going to apologize for everyone who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on others. It's a lot of fun daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Get in there as soon as the show's over and see how I don't know meet a friend we if you also want to hang out on facebook You don't have to choose between the two you can hang out in both places facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Is where to go and then send us an email at feedback at daily tech news show dot com and sarah We'll read it like this one Perhaps yes norm from the central valley in california had some thoughts on our discussion Which I missed because I wasn't on the show on friday and i'm bummed because it was with nicole About food tech and nicole has a lot of thoughts about that. It's uh, it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a theme that we all enjoy norm says while bringing up the instant pot adding voice support may be a benefit to some people I think the broader trend of technological melding with cooking is very interesting I have a non connected instant pot and it took until this segment to realize I don't own a cookbook for it I just use the internet to find recipes. I think nicole brought up the june oven But surprised there wasn't any mention of the biggest trend that I have noticed the sous vide cookers While the instant pots are trying to serve many masters sous vide seems to be trying to give the amateur a professional tool On a side note, I got one for christmas and i'm underwhelmed so far I don't think that the sous vide really works with connectivity as the circuit later needs to consistently keep the temperature constant and in a broader technological trend I think there was something last year about blockchain helping track food to aid In tracking as well sounds like there's enough stuff happening with food to start up a dts labs If only we still did dts labs get us to that next milestone. Maybe we'll we'll start it back up but sous vide Actually been around for for years. I mean it's been around for a lot of years, but as a tech trend I remember hearing about it at a dinner at ces If I don't know four or five years ago Yeah, definitely something that uses the app doesn't sound like norm actually likes the connectivity of his I reject norm I reject norm I I had a I had a sous vide cooked rare half a steak before I came on here today And let me tell you what having a bluetooth connected sous vide machine That lets me know when I got to go take that thing right out of the exact second That it needs to be taken out and when it's heated up was it is and was a delight It did you feel it was perfectly cooked? Yeah, I mean certainly better than I would cook by myself. Sure. Yeah steak for lunch You're living a good life loving it Thanks to just Robert Young and Brian brushwood for being with us. What a treat. I can't remember last time Both of you were on dts and us together Uh, congratulations on uh climb in the charts of billboard. Let folks know where they can keep up with all of your work Uh, yeah, uh, you can please head on over to night attack dot tv slash album That's probably the easiest way where you can go ahead and just click on that iTunes link And uh and go there if you're listening to this right now on tuesday or wednesday Then please go to iTunes. Uh, if that is to your taste We would greatly appreciate you kind of keeping the heat on this album We are are really far up the charts and uh time is of the essence as soon as the amazon and google play stores Change their prices. We will be the first to let you know at night attack show on twitter Go get it folks And support us on patreon if you're not supporting us on patreon. You're missing out. 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There's brian brushwood's laugh ending every daily tech news show I called them up at laugh I'm okay with this All right, uh, do you guys mind if we bail? No, you guys are headed over to the ice cream social, right? Yeah No, we're we're we're we're we're doing the uh the the whole tour. It's crazy We've never been these guys and now here we are. Look at us. We're these guys It's brian and justin on the 8th. That's it. We're doing we're doing our best So everybody go check out matt madding these ice cream social one of our favorite podcasts and and uh great friends Excellent. Uh, good luck you guys. I'll see you at number one. Yeah Boy, uh, love you guys So I was looking up the population of Hainan islands because in my mind I was like, well, just a little island No, over 9 million people live there. Whoa. Yeah, that's about a lot more than I thought Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's not a huge island When you look at it on a map next to the rest of china, but yeah, it's it's it's a large large pop populous area Should we uh name the show all's well with dtns? I mean Is it gonna scare people? Like what was wrong? Why why why do you have? Yeah All the other suggestions are noib puns, which don't get me wrong. I love but yeah I feel that might be missed. I just gotta be in a d wrong guys. Let's not let's not put that under display Yeah Uh, you know, have you ever well all well with the album charts? I like that. Yeah. Yeah. No that that one's okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, all right Uh, let's do that Okay Hey, um tom, I know you're a jogger and I know you've got your um your air pods, but do you have Yeah, what? You're a jogger Tom you're a jogger Well, roger, this is applies to both of you. I just know I'm thinking about jogging in my head when I ask the question Do you have a set of bluetooth? Uh earbuds that aren't the air pods that you'd like No, I have never used any bluetooth audio product that I like. All right. Well I'm gonna get a pair and I just two previous sets of bluetooth headphones Yeah, and I quickly ditched them when I got the air pods because the air pods do not fall out of my ears And therefore I think they're great I know that since the air pods came on the scene, there's been a bunch of other ear bud wireless Out there that don't dangle like cigarette butts out of your ear and uh, some people claim fit their ears better So I don't know if anybody in the chat room or discord wants to let us know or just email us Yeah, I mean I They're just so many, you know, I'm looking on amazon right now and it's like they're There are a lot of extremely inexpensive options. They just Yeah, the wire cutter would be the place Because because I would I would recommend, you know barring knowing anything if just a blank question came in I would say for me the air pods work great and I use them with all kinds of devices, right? Um, but I know they don't work for you So that leaves me like now, I wouldn't recommend the other ones I've used and I haven't used any others besides those I had all right two pairs before this that were, you know wired into each other A little strap that goes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's they were uncomfortable and they didn't connect really well Uh connection was always a little bit janky. So I see I love the modern trend that that apple sort of popularized of yuppa men they connect Boom, right? Yeah, that's great Well, I recommend anchor your buds a n k e r Okay, cool. Thanks. Oh my goodness. The wire cutter has changed their Their site. I haven't been here in a while. It's all about sponges now. No, well, no, it's all the same stuff They just they got a design overhaul It's only toiletries You want toilet paper? We've tried out 7 000 brands. I noticed this a couple weeks back Yeah, this is new I forgot. I mean, it looks very nice. It's just I remember it being yellow Had a whole yellow thing Let's tell me more Is that what you hang your toilet paper on toiletries toiletries? You know, I always wondered why We we we have a knack for for finding words and then being like what's that all about I always wondered why they were called toiletries because No, toiletry is actually for the toilet there's I mean unless you count toilet paper as a toiletry, which I don't toiletries are like, you know a toothbrush and face soap and Maybe some tweezers one of those etymological things where The toilet did not refer to the device that you sit on Right. It was the room room. Right. Right. The toilet was the regimen of getting ready Right. So because you didn't want to refer to that thing because it was rude They just said well, she's in the toilet meaning meaning she was preparing but everybody knew oh, I get it She's going to the bathroom, right? so I think I think that's how we slowly started to refer to the the porcelain thing as the toilet And no longer referred to the preparatory and the room as the toilet. This is all guesswork by the way I could be totally wrong Toilet originally referred to the personal grooming and came by Metonomy to be used for the personal rooms for use for bathing dressing and so on It was then euphemistically used for the private similarly private rooms used for urination and defecation. Oh, yeah, so you're pretty close to what I was saying, yeah Other terms include the lavatory the wet closet I mean toilet water refers to perfume So toiletries and toilet water Date back to that point before it became used for the potty. Yeah Sorry defecation is not a funny word, but for some reason it's funny to me today. I don't know why I'm laughing I like the huge very very immature defecations We all do it Same same Just different. You know what they have pictures of all these very ornate Bathrooms and the Wikipedia description. I just want antiseptic white just white Something I can pour a bucket of bleach over and they clean everything in one swoop In a bathroom you can do that with colored toilets. Oh, I'm sure I had a toilet at an apartment But I know if it's not clean if everything's white Well, the same you but you clean if everything's pink too Rogers he can see the dirt more easily if everything is clean I don't need to go through the dateline I had a green and a green bathtub and I had a pink toilet once in a pink bathtub And I will argue I could see some Like deposits better in the colored porcelain Because some of it appears white and it didn't show up as much on the on the white porcelain I have a very white bathroom currently. It's kind of that subway tile thing And which is it's lovely But it shows everything which is good, you know to roger's point it it keeps me honest You know, I I I'm wiping it down probably more than I might have at my old apartment where I don't know. It was just like some like formica nonsense, but but uh your old apartment was mold colored So you just It's fine. You don't even clean it It just blends in but no, it's it's it's a blessing on a curse because Everybody wants a nice clean bathroom, but sometimes I'm like, man, just wipe this down I see like some bog hair on the corner I hadn't thought about it, but the our new shower. We don't have a bathtub In the main bathroom, but our shower has gray tile and it's roughly the color of water deposits And I wonder if that's odd purpose because we didn't pick it. That's the way it was when we moved in Yeah, like, oh, we want to clean it It's often because you can't tell when the hard hard water deposits build up Do you have hard water? Yeah, I'm every place I've lived and pretty much has hard water. Really? I'm I'm hoping that When I first moved into my house here, it was hard water, but that's because Southern California was taking A significant amount of water from the Colorado River, which has a lot of mineral deposits in it Well, hard water just means it's not been treated Well, hard water tends to There there's a certain amount of dissolved minerals in hard water that qualifies as art There's a certain amount of dissolved minerals in all water though, right? Hard water is a certain level. It's not just having you have to pass a certain threshold Like on on the hardness scale There's like a natural water pulled out of a stream and it would still be soft water If no, you would pull it it would so I guess I guess I'm that's what I'm stating It's there's a hardness scale, right? So you could have more deposits and it would be considered A harder a harder water, I guess I get yeah, okay What I'm saying is if you don't have a water softener in your house, isn't the water always hard Yes, yes, you have to make it soft like It's not just gonna be soft although San Francisco I mean because the water comes from hatch hatching tends to be a little softer than Okay, all right Doesn't kick in the shins the way some water does did you soft water? And never make it No, I always remember it sometimes at a hotel or at someone's house, you know, you wash your hair and you're like Soft water because it like takes off forever to get the soap off of you. Yeah But then you're you're kind of softer afterwards, you don't dry out like a cod I just remember when my dad put in a water softener when I was a kid I had no idea that water was either hard or soft But the immediately could taste the difference when I get no glass of water out of the faucet There was that Seinfeld episode about the low flow shower heads, which is not exactly the same thing but It was funny Nobody nobody liked nobody liked them It was basically the equivalent of they've put soft water in our showers Ah, because it was limp. It was limp. Yeah. Yeah all the everyone's hair was Kind of droopy. We don't have enough calcium in our The wire cutter says that the Jabra elite active 65t is the best set of wireless workout headphones Sounding great for music and calls fit comfortably and because they have no wires They stay secure and completely out of your way during rigorous workouts. That's what you do. You're a jogger withstanding abuse sweat and moisture When you yell at them like why were you not a better headphone on this run? I love that. It's like in my workouts. I want to sweat There's going to be moisture and there will be abuse use of these headphones I need the headphones that can withstand all three I will scream at these headphones These headphones need to be okay when verbally abused Uh, it is let's see and they well, they're not cheap 185 on amazon Yeah, my earbuds aren't cheap either No, I was looking for more like $50 185 so maybe we'll we'll go down the list. They're also good for your budget option usually. So yeah, they you're You're very right the aukey a uk y latitude e p b 40 for casual gym use Or if you're hard on earbuds, apparently a lot of people are just really mean to their earbuds Are only $30 from amazon And timsey gene says anchor runs about 25 bucks. Oh, well, you know what maybe anchors the That's that's two votes for anchor now not a scientific sample by any means but anchor Well biocast says folks are mentioning lg here. Well anchor a and k are you are correct cool Yeah, I I not familiar with them, but I will I will do some digging I know about a lot of people love their their phone cases Outrease and stuff like they're they're pretty highly thought of as a company Well, thanks for watching uh go out and buy all as well by justin robert young and bryan brushwood the new night attack album If you like to laugh and audio folks stick around there's more to come