 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. central time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show as we are doing today, and then you can watch it later at your convenience. Both the live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch, so please do share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone who you think may be interested in any of the topics we have on the show. For those of you not from Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries, similar to your state library. So we provide training, consulting, and grants and services to all sorts of libraries in the state. So we will have shows on Encompass Live that could be for all types of libraries, public, academic, K-12, archives, museums, corrections, all sorts of things. Could be anything, book reviews, interviews, mini-training sessions, demos of services and products. So we have something for everybody who's interested in libraries, at least. We sometimes have Nebraska Library Commission staff come on the show to talk about programs and services we're doing through the commission, but we also bring on guest speakers, which we have today. With us today is Erin Hannah, who is from our Lexington Middle School. Good morning, Erin. Good morning. And Joanne Neiman, who is a director at our Beatrice Public Library. So both Nebraska people. Good morning, Joanne. And they're going to talk about, this is a great program that was first, I think first put out last year, but is still available. The Heartland Honors 9-11 Victims and Survivors. So I'll just hand over to you, Erin and Joanne, to explain what this was and how you got involved and what you did at each of your libraries, both a school and a public library. Well, I think I'll start, Erin, if that's okay with you. Beatrice has used the Smithsonian poster exhibit for a couple years now. So when the 9-11 anniversary one came up, we took the opportunity to turn that into a whole program for the library. So if you want to go ahead and hit the slide for me. Just try to advance it and now it will not. No worries, no worries. Just a minute. I love technology. This is just part of, for me, because you'll see in my slides here, I did a boo boo, but it turned out okay. So this was the Smithsonian's educational exhibit that we can do. And so I put down the website down there at the bottom, Sites, because you can do just about anything. And I just recently got done doing the pollinators, which here in Nebraska, it's kind of that big, big thing. And so we, again, went and kind of combined all of our areas and kind of showcased the pollinators. So my first one was we did a September 11 book display, and it just showcased all of the books that were written then and now. And you can go ahead and do the slide again. Yeah, if you should be. It wasn't dancing. Let's see now. Can you, I don't know if I'm advancing with your arrow keys, make it advance and go back instead of trying to use the mouse potentially. I was trying to use the arrow keys and not working. Sometimes just clicking on it with a mouse would make it advance potentially. Okay, so here was the poster exhibit. And what we did was we have movable panels. And so our staff helped me put it into a complete square so that you had to walk in and we made it intentionally a little darker so that it was more dramatic. And you walked around and you looked at the and read the posters on the inside. So if you want to go ahead and so we also have a story walk, which if anybody doesn't know about story walks. It's a registered walk that you can buy and then follow the rules and it can you can walk in. And learn at the same time so it's outdoors. So this very tree I was so excited about and I bought it and I bought the three copies you were supposed to do and ripped up the other two, not counting the pages, and we have 20 spots for page. In a picture book the pictures took up too much room so I didn't know what to do with this book that I have already laminated and made so I put it on the outside. So if you want to hit the screen advanced so I put it on the outside. So you could go outside the the box of walls and see the the story walk that couldn't be in in our story walk, but what was the story walks are like you said outdoors to get people out like individual posts with the where you put each page of a book or a couple of pages in there. And that will be coming up and that will be coming up so I did save myself a little bit. But this is an interesting way of doing it if you don't I mean this is actually interesting for people who don't have the space to do an outdoor story walk. Right. Right. You can do a story walk indoors just post the pages up wherever you have an area where people can walk around walk through hallways or through the library. I'm kind of like a scavenger fun time maybe. By page. And so but I like one and just I love serendipity. When if you'll notice the shadow was unplanned but there is a shadow on the very darkest of the dark page and that was not planned. I was putting stapling him to the to the wall and that was and I didn't even notice it until later that that was where the darkest panel was and so where you're going to go. Yeah. And so the darkest of the book was also darkest in the in the library. But if you want to go ahead and advance. So I had talked to one of the schools and they were excited about going down to the story walk because they are very close to the story walk. And when I called and said it's now at the library because I made too many of them or I there was too many pages. She was disappointed. And so she goes well how about if I buy you another book, another title, and we make another one. And so I said no you don't have to buy it if there if you have another title that would be great. So she gave me branches of hope went and bought three copies of that and put it down in the story walk. So if you want to go ahead and advance again. So this is our story walk. A group of individuals in in management courses in the city. Every year decide what to write a grant about and and so they asked my opinion I said yes I would love to have a story walk. And hence it has done so you have these. Nice display. And they're about. Oh three feet away, maybe four feet away and you you literally walk to each station, and you read the story. So if you want to go ahead and and advance for me. So this is so I want to explain the short, obviously just what is the topic of those two books the obviously it was this. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, yes, I did not know this being from Nebraska, I don't hear everything. I never knew that there was this tree. That kind of stood as as the tree of hope that it was the only tree that kind of survived the devastation and the crash so they this, the two story books. They tell about how they took the one, this one little tree and I want to say it was a cherry blossom tree but I can't remember. Anyway they take it and they take it to a nursery they nurse it back to help and it is still there. They replanted it then on the site and it's there and it stands as its own memorial of kind of endurance and it is a very cool story and I never knew that never so 20 years later. And I was old enough, obviously, to know to hear about things like that and I just, I just didn't. And so that was really disappointing, as far as, as me, not searching stuff out, but I took care of that and it was actually because I'm looking on that the cover that one book yet was actually a pear tree. Oh pear tree. Thank you. Thank you. I know it was a fruit tree of some kind. I just kind of remember which one. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, so this is, this is St. Joe's Church School that came to to view it and our paper was was wonderful enough to kind of add to our program announcements that what we were all doing and they also found out that our own local Veterans Club was doing their thing so it really did become a community wide thing starting and kind of I don't want to say starting with us because obviously they they did it on their own but it kind of collaborated. So if you want to go ahead and switch slides. So, we also do a book club, a book discussion every month. And so I kind of wanted to tie the book discussion into it so the day the world came to town is is a fantastic book if no one has read it yet. You have to. I have not gone to the Broadway play come from a way which when I was making this slideshow it was showing in in Lincoln, Nebraska. And so it is again another I didn't know this was happening, but it's just another thing. It was the town of Gander, Newfoundland, and it's the size of Beatrice, you know from 13,000, and how this whole community came together because all the airspace in over the United States was closed and no one this is prior to everyone having a cell phone. No one knew what was going on. And so Gander was at one time, an Air Force base, and so it was able to hold like all of these 20 some huge jumbo jets that were on their everywhere in the world. And so now this town had to come together and figure out what to do with all of these people that were on all of these planes because they didn't know what was going on, they didn't know how long it was going to go on. And it was just, it was an incredible it is, it is an incredible story. So, yeah, if I hope I've picked someone's interest in reading it. I've read it twice, and I love it. So that was our other ones if you want to go ahead and do the next. So, so I tried to do get the kids involved, get their parents involved, get the, the whole community involved and so then that's how I did it. So thank you very much. Aaron, I'll hand it over to you. I just want to let people know because someone did ask. Yes, you will have access to these slides afterwards. So all the links and information in here you will have when we do the, on the archive is put up the recording recorded session. Thank you. I think it was kind of neat that we both felt it was important for kids who weren't even alive during this time to be able to learn about and experience this, this part of history and I think the story walk is a cool idea that involved the community. I was in a school setting and so most of mine, all of just about all of mine just took place during the school day. And right here you see a couple of ELL classes. They didn't do the same thing that all of the other classes did when they went through the display I'll show you in just a minute but we did show them some of the video and they did look around at the posters and here they're looking at some of the firefighter example here. So some things I had to think about because we were in a school was just where in the world where I put this. We have a classroom in our library but it's often used for other things so it was a little bit tricky trying to get that booked. Also, a key concern of always will teachers be willing to bring their classes it will they see this as a worthy enough activity to schedule their classes to come into. And so I did a little recruiting with the history teachers and fortunately was able to have just about everybody in the school come through. We didn't have display boards. There were of course time constraints we have a bell every 45 minutes or so and then wanted to do an open house for the community. We needed to use the iPads that the kids had. I really wanted the kids to be engaged with things and just to maybe not see it as much as an assignment but just as a way to explore part of history in a fun way. And then I also wanted to build that website and assignment so over to the right you see I had with each of the posters that came from the Smithsonian. I had a couple of questions that the kids needed to answer as they were going through so it was kind of Christie you mentioned this as scavenger hunt type thing earlier that this is not like go wherever and try to find things they were following the posters but they did have to look for specific bits of information to answer those questions. And then I built a website too so they just QR code. There was a QR code entrance into it and then they just advanced from poster to poster and it tells them some things that they can look at. And most of those linked back to what was on the Smithsonian or the 911 Memorial and Museum. Pages with the interviews from some of the people that were there at the time. Some just videos that I found elsewhere some pictures some of the artifacts that they have posted on their website and in their museum that I wanted the kids to make sure that they were seeing at various points along with the posters. So we were able to schedule the library classroom. I mentioned about the history teachers and then we had kids hall these display boards over from the Dawson County Historical Museum. And this is kind of how we set it up kind of like a museum type experience. And I guess as I'm looking at this and after looking at your pictures of the story walk. It's similar in a sense although we don't have a book going on but they're moving from station to station so over to the left we have the first couple of stations and the first couple of posters. And again that QR code is on the table and it will take them to their first assignment so they would have been given their assignment sheet that they are following around in small groups. This was a little bit tricky because we had a lot of teachers that wanted to like bring the entire grade and like all of first periods seventh graders for example and so they came in these groups of like 40 and we couldn't really crowd around a small poster. And so we split into groups of four and you'll see in a minute that I had to create a few other stations to spread the kids around the room. But here is kind of how how those display boards were set up and there weren't enough to do the whole thing so you'll see in a minute that I had to use some walls and things. So over to the far left is where this gets started. We did have some teachers that were pretty actively exploring this with their students. You can see Mr Lara and Mr Allen and these pictures here and the kids are discussing with each other. Trying to trying to figure out what the answers were for the various questions we did borrow some volunteer fire department here from our town. I wanted it to be kind of a tangible thing where kids were really imagining what would it have been like to be there. And so they were lifting up the heavy boots and then the coat and you just hopefully it gave them a pretty good sense of that was a really difficult thing and to add fire and frantic frantic people and just the whole tragic sense of the day to it. Hopefully, really got cemented in their mind something that I'm hoping that they won't forget now that they're that they've left this experience to the audio and video recordings really, really captivated our students and especially the principal aid adults. That's a little picture of her over to the right. And she was talking about trying to get her kids out to safety and how they they kind of got separated and then what it was like for her. And she had somebody that she loved that was in one of the towers and just how her emotions were split among all these all these different people. But that felt very real to the kids. I think because they were in a school building at the time. Todd Beamer's phone recording with with the air. And I can't even think for sure who we was talking to the air tower the air support and then the Red Cross volunteer was another one that really stood out to them that I that I really noticed them being captivated by and that she was talking about her experiences, but also how the effect of 9-11 is nowhere near over because she still has people in her life. She and her husband and others who not only lost their lives, but who are still suffering just with the complications from the the dust and all of the other injuries that may be sustained through the through that, I guess, just the collapse of the buildings and and just the clean up efforts. You know, our art teacher had something up in her classroom and she wanted to include this. So we just incorporated it right in and that's the slide and or the picture that's in the center. And it kind of shows the changed skyline and the timeline of events if it were on a step phone. We had some things that were kind of made up to you'll notice on the picture to the right. We those are just my suitcases and we have like a fake ticket. Just some things to try to get them in the mindset of. If you're traveling. This is what it would have been like. Parts of our tour were really, really quiet. There was the part about all of the memorials that were left, but also that my daughter is missing. Here's what she looks like. Can you help us reunite those kinds of things were very, very thought provoking. I think the kids really were able to put themselves in the place to an extent of the people experiencing 911 firsthand. There were a lot of things that I hadn't known that were presented in the posters. I didn't really know about some of the other attacks on U.S. embassies and things that were highlighted in the posters. I know that right. So that's interesting. So they included thing other from other times other previous events or since then that have been that have happened. It wasn't. It's not just about 911. Right. Right. So the first few posters were about. The specific events of the day, but then it did talk about things that had maybe led up to it or related events. And then it talked about. Even some of the memorials that have been established or what have our whatever laws changed to be like in the airport security is obviously heightened and things like that since then. So they have they definitely took that kind of they took the event but then went before it and then went after it as well. We tried to highlight some of the books from our collection. We have some fiction books that are 911 related. And so that's what you see over here to the left. I added pictures all over the place and and masks and things to try to kind of tie it into what's going on more recently with COVID. And then in just a second here. Here you see to our nonfiction titles. I think that's really interesting. I did bring an oak tree in and this was a little bit tragic because I then went to go point it at my house and I didn't think it was going to make it. titles. I did bring an oak tree in and this was a little bit tragic because I then went to go plant it at my house. I didn't think it was going to make it, but it is. It's surviving, but we tied yellow ribbons on that just to kind of get the sense of remembering and honoring this event and history. And then, like I said, we had a lot of kids in the library and that's not a huge classroom, so we also spread out until a while in the library. And these were some additional questions that were that were asked that were not poster-related, but we just kind of had them be thinking like what does a terrorist look like? We talked about stereotypes and there has been a lot of stereotyping at this at the time that we did this last last fall with placing a lot of flame on any person who is Chinese. Like you're the cause of this virus and so we talked about that a little bit too. Very timely, yes. Yeah, they could definitely relate to aspects of it and I think they found it very interesting when they looked over at those pictures to the left too. Like who do I think is a terrorist here? And all of all of them and I said what do they look like? Well, they look like everybody. It's not that it's not the look, it's the action of the person of a terrorist. So that was interesting to watch the kids look at that. We also had a little little section about the flight path so you could kind of see where the planes were headed, kind of what the what the terrorist plan was and how they planned to attack. Here we have another teacher. This is Mr. Sullivan. He is trying to get some of those QR code videos to play on his phone and then we just have some pictures about the patriotism. So all of these videos and the QR code videos that you've been talking about, so those are provided as part of the poster exhibit from the 9-11 Museum? They're on the website. Okay. There are some teaching materials that aren't given with that and they have some things, but tons and tons of information. So I just kind of selected some that I thought would be especially, I guess, significant for our students and just kind of tried to highlight some of those. And then they had the link as well if they wanted to explore it further. But they have amazing information on their on their site. We also I'd mentioned we tried to kind of do that connection between COVID and 9-11, just in the in terms of the health impact, in terms of people feeling scared, society kind of shutting down. And a lot of kids were really able to do some of that comparing and contrasting. So it was very interesting to see what they came up with. Just on that Venn diagram, we just stuck on the wall. Our public library loaned us some newspapers that were from New York in the days following 9-11. And so that was very cool to be able to see just what the immediate impact was and to kind of look at some of that primary source material that we don't often get to see. They think the kids were very, very surprised. I mean, when you just glance at those, it looks very sensationalized, almost like what you might see in an inquire or something. But it was just that big. And it was sensational, real news. That was the feeling. And nationally, that was the general feeling. It wasn't like, yes, didn't feel sensationalized at all at the time. No, it was what it was necessary. Mm-hmm. One of the things that I thought was really looking at for me about 9-11 is just how much you saw the efforts of communities coming together. And I didn't know either about the community of Gander that Joanne was talking about, but just that so many, so many groups were putting together fundraisers, bringing food and all kinds of things like that. So we did just a little unite and kindness. And then they had an opportunity to say thank you to some of those people that were especially heroic during 9-11 and who helped protect our community today. And then there was just a crossword puzzle station. And again, that's part of that was just to split the kids up a bit and to get them moving around the room. We did do a public open house. The Daughters of the American Revolution, their local chapter came to host that event. And so here you see Linda Minns and Marge Bader, they are part of our local chapter. And they brought snacks and also just kind of hosted a Saturday afternoon time. And people came from the community to look through. And we had students that had been through the experience kind of lead them through and point out things that were that were highlights to them. And just kind of shared their own impressions of what had what had struck them that they didn't know about. And it was interesting for the students to because a lot of those community remember members were remembering things from that time and sharing with them as well. So I think yeah, that's that's the end of it. That's interesting thing. Yeah, that I mean, there's all these resources from the 911 Museum and part of this exhibit. But we who were, as you said, Joanne, around at the time and not, you know, like these children who are not even born yet, we have our own memories and that we can be resources for them about what happened and how it felt and how it affected us to all across the country. That was something too that was really neat about the materials that were provided by the 911 Memorial Museum. And that they had a lot of these firsthand accounts. But they also had people that were maybe related to somebody who was there. And so they did, it did branch out a bit. But it was it was a neat addition when our community members had come to win just the things that they shared, you're right. Yeah. Um, yeah, I know some people may know, know me, I'm from New York, actually, I'm not a native Nebraska. And as many of you may be, I moved to Nebraska in 2000, actually, just the year before this happened. Be a test. Sorry, they're doing fire alarm testing here today. Bad timing. So sorry, mute myself for a second there. Anyway, yes, I am from New York, I moved here in 2000, right the year before this happened. And so yeah, this is something that is very, and that you were one of you mentioned that still years later, it's, it's a heart wrenching thing, it's still upsets me today, seeing all this in the presentations and things. I've been to and in the Twin Towers multiple times, you know, before, of course, in years before, my sister had worked worked sometimes in Manhattan. And on the day of this, I wasn't sure where she was working with she, you know, there was so there was a lot of that panic and chaos and fear and wondering, okay, how do I get in touch with her can't reach her because she's in New York, call someone else who's farther upstate New York, who can find me can reach and find out what's going on. traveling right afterwards, you mentioned the planes, you know, the planes that were everything was shut down. And that's, that's really all our students have ever known if they've been to an airport is just that the increased security and they've never known a time that wasn't like this. Sorry. When this happened, actually, I was traveling and I was in Ohio for a work meeting. And it was like the first day of the meeting. And I said, like a couple of days left and getting back home. Plains. I apologize again. Plains were grounded for days. This wasn't just the day of it was like for at least a week or more. I mean, I don't know exactly timing, but they were grounded for days. And I had flown to Ohio, I had to rent a car and drive myself back home because there were no flights. There was no way to get anywhere. So there's a lot of the things that happened beyond the day that I think sometimes you don't realize, you know, sometimes traumatic events, things like this are a one day thing. And then we figure out how to deal with it. But this week became so big. Like you mentioned, say and nationalize. No, it was huge. Yeah. One of the things I wanted to say, you know, we didn't think here in Nebraska touched us, but it actually did because when they cleared the airspace, President Bush was on Air Force One and landed in Omaha. And no one knew he was in Omaha, but that's where he went. And he landed in at the at off of Air Force Base. So we here in middle America, we even had something touching us. Right, because we are is one of the strategic places that they would send the president during times of crisis that you like you said, you're not supposed to know because it's supposed to keep him safe. Yeah. So some questions about the actual poster sessions and getting ahold of this. This is something as you both mentioned from the it's the 911 Memorial Inn Museum. I want to make sure I got the title of that, right? How many can you explain exactly what comes with it? We feel what people are asking you how many posters? I see you can see how big yours are there on those pictures, Aaron, you know, how much you how many posters are there? How much space might you need? How did you get these printed out? Do they send you the posters? Do you do it yourself? How did you know? How does that all work or? Yeah, there were 14 posters that were sent and you could request them in poster form. And that's what I did. We don't have and we have a big printer. So all I did was downloaded it and printed it ourselves. So you have an options. Okay. And they came with some suggested here's how you can display and it was more just in a big row with X number of inches between them. But I knew ahead of that that I really wanted it to be something where more kids could get around them and have a little more experience. And so I spread it out a lot more than what they had recommended. And we did the opposite. We wanted to make it be more dramatic and feel like you were in it. And so we kind of made it in a smaller space. And that it can see how that would definitely add to that, that whole feeling of, you know, being trapped in the towers and yeah, they were very easy to work with. There was a training that we could do online. And then there was also there were also some live program type videos that we could show, yes, on on the September moment date that I believe were available the day ahead as well. I wasn't able to do that in with classrooms. We could have it showing when we did our open house. And that was more just a big commemoration of the 20th anniversary and just a lot of that. So the Museum Friday with some training and instruction on how to use this, they didn't, it wasn't just, you know, figure it out for yourself. Their resources are really, really good. So they extend a lot, like even questions so that if you, you know, wanted to start a discussion. Oh, a book called discussion questions type thing. I wish they would have done that. They did not do that. It was, it was questions concerning the posters. But resources were there. And my book club, my personal book club had read this a while ago. And so I knew this book was the book that I was going to do. After after I had done that, I thought, Oh, my gosh, there were so many other books I could have chosen to that there was even a teen one that extremely loud, incredibly close, or something like that, which was a movie to with Tom Hanks, and that would have been a great one to do too. So there was unlimited choices. Yeah, there are, there's been many things put together made since in like books and obviously senior displays there of both fiction and nonfiction books and movies made and whatnot. Another question here, I see a lot of and it is the most dramatic view, of course, that a lot of these pictures are of the Twin Towers in New York City, Manhattan. Is there anything about the other locations to the Pentagon? And in Pennsylvania, was there, is there information about that in this as well? Yes. And I'm going to shrink this down and I can back up so you can see. Not sure you can see it well. One of my, my most dramatic ones was the one, you know, help me find this person we're searching for and and then the watch that they found and just personal items that they found. Yeah, this one I thought there was a picture there is a picture of the Pentagon and that's what the kids are looking at right here. And I thought there was a little better view of that of the poster, but there isn't. Okay, so they include everything from the day. I mean, it is obviously the well, the pictures of Pentagon are very dramatic as well. Well, there was even a poster of the one that was headed towards the White House that went in. They crashed into the field in Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania, that there was a poster on that one too. And there were two just like the one in the middle here that is showing that was one of the candlelight vigils that they had. And I think over, yeah, and this this one in this, this 13th station, they, they had several different memorials, they showed Memorial Glade. And it just, it was very moving, just because I think I was I was amazed, honestly, you kind of never know what you're going to get for sure with middle school. I'd usually they are great learners, but sometimes they're not super engaged. But I think they could tell even from the people in the pictures that this was, that this was a big, big deal, even though they weren't alive during this time, I think it really came to life for them through these posters. Definitely. All right. Oh, think that was. All right. Does anybody have any other questions they want to ask? We still have 15 minutes left. We're doing this perfect timing here today. I know we weren't sure this is the first time you've all done this presentation, correct? On this or this fall? Yeah. Awesome. If anybody does have any other questions? Sorry, that was my hand. No problem. You can type into the question section again and ask any questions about the session about the what's available, the resources. One of you did mention that this was you did this both last year, it was the 20th anniversary of 9 11. So of course, that made sense to do that. But the poster session is still available. It wasn't correct. It wasn't just just for last year. Yeah, they have posters back from they had the World War One. I believe World War One was the anniversary of that that was the first posters that we had ordered from from the Smithsonian. And so and you can still get those too. Okay, yeah. And we do have the link to the page, the 9 11 more museum page about that. Yeah, you can download it PDF friendly. There's an installation guide. And like you said, oh, you mentioned you're on the recorded training. Yeah, so, you know, some people did this last year, as you all did, coinciding with the anniversary. But whenever someone might want to do this particular session, any September, anytime in August or September, the resources are still available out there for people to use. Now, is this something? Oh, here we go. Okay, so that's a good question. Is this something that you would do again, like redo one of these set poster sessions regularly? Like I know Aaron, you did it with those certain students. But was it only certain age groups that came in? Like, would you do that as an annual thing or regularly? So the new students coming up might experience it? Yeah, I would not do it. We have a few things at our school that we rotate every three years, so that every kid that's in the building gets at some point. So I can I can see myself doing this again, like, in three years with the new batch of kids, you know, with but I because we did seven than eight, it's not something that I would repeat yearly for the right way till there's new kids to sure. So teachers wanted something specific from it or wanted to borrow. I definitely kept everything. Oh, sure. You could open as a possibility. Yeah, and it's something like you said, it's interesting to see how you both used parts of it in different ways that you could pick out just some of them to do something smaller or something for a special event or something as you want to in the future. Yeah. Good questions. Yeah. I really like, you know, the more I think about just the different ways to set it up to I mean, that would be a whole different experience for people to have if they were just, you know, in the posters and then kind of confined space like that. I think that'd be really meaningful. Yeah, getting creative with it and doing it in yeah, in a different, different setup for different reasons for a different event. Yeah. We did have a little bit of kinks to work out, I guess, after our first group of kids came through, we had first everybody brought their iPads and we had a full bunch of different videos playing at different points. And so we, we wised up and just thought, okay, one iPad per group was much easier to manage and noise was chaotic. Sure, sure. So we kind of learned as we go, like always, right, not seeing any new questions coming in, just making sure I can't see as people are typing stuff to wait until you're done to see if you've got something you're you're typing in into the questions. But I don't see anything new coming in right now, but that's that's fine. This was a very great session. Thank you so much, Joanne and Erin sharing how you use this session. I hope other schools and libraries used this last year. I know we did promote that it was available from the Commission to let people, libraries and everyone know that it was out there, that they had put together this new exhibit that's available from the 9-11 Memorial and Museum. And like Joanne says, the Smithsonian does these kind of things all the time for all sorts of topics. The pollinators won and then we're one and you know, just check their pages, the websites, you're always going to find something new that you can use and do this. And not having to come up with it yourself from scratch is, I think, awesome. That they will send you the posters or give you the files if you have the ability to print them yourself or do it every you can that just makes it so much easier. I mean, I know we're always looking for programming and displays, display ideas and having to build it all ourselves can be a lot, I think. But having these pre-created is really awesome. All right. Well, I didn't see any other questions come in while I was just babbling there. Any last words from you, Joanne and Erin, before we wrap things up? Well, if I do it again, like in however many years, I loved how Erin made its stations and really kind of made it interactive. So I would probably try and do something more like that too, just to, I like the interactiveness and just kind of making it more real. It just opens your mind, I think, seeing other people as like, I like yours as well, Joanne. I'm really appreciative, Krista, that you mentioned this because I had never heard of it. I'm not a, I've been in the library for five years and I don't always know where to look for things, but this was so beautifully curated by the Smithsonian. I felt like it was free. It's just, yes, yes, I'll say that's a key. I felt really proud of it and not by my own doing, but just, I was, I was really glad to be able to offer the experience to our school. And I think that's how I felt when I went to the Smithsonian too, like, whoa, this is amazing and I didn't know these things. Oh, they, they know what they're doing when they're putting together their own displays in the actual Smithsonian and I think it's great that they're willing to share their expertise at doing this with any libraries and schools that want to use them. Yeah, awesome. All right. Okay, so thank you so much. Thank you, Joanne and Erin for sharing about this. Thank you everyone for attending today. I'm going to pull back presenter control to my screen, so I want to just do a little wrap up for today's show. So as I said, the slides will be available. Erin, you can email me the link to that whenever you get a chance. Those are the Google slides that she has there. So everyone have access to that. You can see all of their displays, how they did things, the links that are in there as well. This is the session page for today's show and I was going to show you, I do have the link here to the information on the 9-11 Memorial and Museum's page about the, this goes directly to, this is a whole website all about 9-11 of course, but this is going directly to the page about the poster exhibition, where as you can see you can download them, get your installation guide, training, they do ask if you want to share what you're doing with them, that you have a Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. So if you wanted to do something at your library or your school with this, the resources are still out there and you can definitely do that at any time for with any event on any anniversary of 9-11 if you wanted to. So we have a link right there for you to access that. So that will wrap it up for today's show, as I said it has been recorded and it will be on our archive page, I'll just pop over here, this is our main page for Encompass Live, our upcoming shows are here, our link to our archives is here at the bottom and these are the most recent ones at the top, so today's show will be right here at the top, should have it uploaded and ready for everyone to watch by the end of the day tomorrow. Everyone who attended today's show and registered today's show will get an email directly from me, otherwise you pushed out on our Twitter and Facebook and social media and are through our mailing lists here at the library commission, there'll be a link to the recording which goes on to our YouTube channel and a link to the slides. Okay, while we're here, I'm going to do a lot of editing to this show I can tell, all the muting I've had to do. 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So that wrap it up for today's show, and here's our schedule for the upcoming months, look for more dates to be filled in for July and August, next week we'll be talking about policies of yes, librarians from North Liberty Library in Iowa, our neighbors in Iowa, are talking to us about their inclusion policy statement that they've done for their library and how you can do that at your own library, so please do sign up for that show or any of our other upcoming shows we have on our schedule. Thank you everybody for being here with us this morning, thank you Erin and Joanne for sharing what you did with your 9-11 displays on this wonderful information, and hopefully we will see you all on a future episode of Encompass Live. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, bye-bye.