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And then it looks like there's a breakout well above the resistance level, which happens maybe 10, 12% at a time, where you have a breakout above that level. What we would need to see is it remain there before pulling back and be going below the resistance level on the Bruno oscillator. The next stock we talked about was Lilly. And I put that stock up here as well. And he is Lilly. And Lilly is based on a Bruno oscillator. It went at resistance here, basis 912. And then suddenly it fell down from resistance down to support. And this level here, which was about 528 on 10.2. And now it moved from there up to resistance again, up at this level here, 20 points, up 0.92 on the day. So that's Lilly STX. Obviously it's too late to buy these stocks. That's why we try to buy oversold stocks based on our oscillator and then sell them when they become at resistance and oversold. So the next stock was STX, Seagate Technology. And Seagate Technology is basically the same thing. It was at resistance a while ago up here. And it didn't hold that resistance too long. And then suddenly it came all the way down to support. And that support started moving up. And now we're back up to the resistance levels once again. All right. The next stock on that, the most active stock list was CLTL. And that was, maybe that stock is CLTL. Let me see. Let me get that off there. Let me see CLTL. I think I know how this way. OK. CLTL is carlament. It looks like. And it was stock hit resistance here in the level here. Back on 9-1. And then after resistance, it came down to support. And then a lower support here at 10-5. And that was trying to make its way back up to resistance. And I said that I calculated, it's not exactly, but about take 17, 18 days to go from support to resistance on these charts, this oscillator that I created. And therefore this may still have a little bit more to run. So we're back up $1.30 today to $45.41. OK. The next stock is that we're looking at as a most active stock is Adobe. And Adobe was on our list anyway of being an over sole stock. And here Adobe has moved up nice over the last few days since we started talking about it. Up 16 points today to $549.12. It's heading towards the $550 area for that. We also mentioned on our program that Apple, although everyone loves Apple, we said that Apple was giving us a resistance level about $180. And that seemed to be resistance because the $180 held. And that was $178.55, only up $0.16. OK. In the other stocks that we have, we have a couple of dividend capture stocks. And we talked about dividend capture in our program yesterday. And it's, I think, worthwhile to review it again because most people don't understand dividend capture. And as I mentioned yesterday, that we're not the only people that invented or created dividend capture. And basically, many good stocks pay dividends. Sometimes these dividends are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5%. And the problem with dividend capture strategy that does not use our cycles or Bruno oscillator, and there are some funds that are called dividend capture funds, is when they buy a stock in anticipation of a dividend that is going to pay in the next couple of weeks, they have no idea whether the trend for that stock is up or down. So they can be buying a stock for dividend capture, let's say, pays a dollar, and suddenly the stock may move down to $3 a year. So what good is it making a dollar a dividend if you're going to lose two or three points of principle? We also mentioned the fact that the ex-dividend date is the key date for dividend capture because on the ex-dividend date is when the stock is reduced by the price of the dividend. So therefore, in order to capture a dividend, you have to buy the stock prior to the dividend date. And then on the ex-dividend date, the stock drops by that amount. We were trying to buy lows at a low price. We didn't get it. But lows was paying $1, $1.12 in October 27. So we were buying it for $1.12. That's $1.10 or $12 a share. A hundred shares of stock would be $110. A thousand shares of stock would be $1,100 in your account if you're able to buy the stock at oversold condition and then hold the stock as the stock moved up and moved up into the level of when you bought it and above the price that you paid for it, you sell the stock and meanwhile in a week you get $1.10 per share of free. I call that free money. And the reason why it works so well is many of the account executives and money managers and people that have income, conservative income clients that are looking for income to pay their bills. They don't want to disturb their nest egg account. They just don't want to take any chances. So therefore many of these account executives buy these dividend stocks in order to anticipate paying them a dividend. We'll be right back after this short break. 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This is your host Peter Bruno and before the break we were talking about the confusing area to many people including professionals is the concepts of ex-dividend payment dates and and dividends that are used after ex-dividend. Ex-dividend means if you buy the stock you have to buy the stock prior to the ex-dividend date because on the ex-dividend date it means exactly what it says. It's you're buying the stock without the dividend and you're buying the stock minus the dividend that is minus the stock on the opening of the ex-dividend date. So you have to own the stock prior to the ex-dividend date and you also have to own the stock when our Bruno oscillators are telling you that we're in an over-sold condition we expect the stock to move up. Now many people who prepare buying dividend capture stocks for their clients usually buy them a couple of weeks ahead of time prior to the ex-dividend date when buying comes in prior to the ex-dividend date stocks tend to move up into the ex-dividend date. So if we're looking to buy a dividend capture we're looking to buy dividend capture stock a couple of weeks prior to the ex-dividend date and as I mentioned yesterday in the case of low the stock was up two and a half points and if we're only trying to get a 10 per share and we're able to make two or three points on the stock why wait to the expiration date or the ex-dividend date when we can sell and nail down the profit right there and forget about the dividend because by the time we get to the ex-dividend date the cycles may go from oversold which they were to over-bought resistance which certainly you don't want to buy any stock that is at resistance. So we have three stocks that we want to three new stocks that we want to talk about for dividend capture and one of them is Chlorox which I have the chart up on the screen and you can see that we came from resistance at 170 all the way down to 121 I don't know what's going on with the company fundamentally because I don't follow fundamentals but the fact is that Chlorox is going to be paying $1.20 a share and it's a $121 stock so $1.20 a share pays on its ex-dividend date it doesn't pay in an ex-dividend date but the ex-dividend date is $10.24 so you have to own the stock prior to $10.24 if you own the stock prior to $10.24 you get $1.20 once the payable date for Chlorox comes due. The next stock that we had was Hasbro and that's HAS and Hasbro again is a situation where you can see by looking at the Bruno oscillator we had resistance at $70 to $50 now it seems to be holding support at $58.15 and Hasbro is paying $0.70 now Hasbro is only $58 stock so $0.70 of $50 stock is paying more than maybe 1.25% and the ex-dividend date for Hasbro is on $10.31 so you still have time to buy the stock and of course in the Wall Street Money letter where we recommend the time and so on we would give you the specific buy points that we want you to buy the stock at based on the AI and algorithm prices that Megan Ramsey has figured out for that particular day and if we're able to get down to the level where we want you to buy the stock because we still have time then we'll buy the stock and we'll hold that stock based on the fact that we expect the stock to move up from there. The next stock that was in that list was the STZ and STZ I don't think I have that there let me try to put that up there and symbols manually STZ STZ okay now we have it up there which is Seagate Technology and that's another one STZ and it's a consolation brand that's a food company and you can see that's already moving up from its support level and therefore we expect it to continue to move up STZ is going to be paying 89 cents on the dividend payable date and that stock is $238 a share so it doesn't give you that big of a percentage increase however if the stock moves up you may want to forget about the 89 cents because if it moves up from say 240 to 245 then who cares about the 89 cents that will pay your dividend another stock is Texas System TXN TXN is going to go ex-dividend on October 30 it's paying $1.30 a share the stock sells about $156 $57 again a little bit less than 1% but here's a company that based on our oversold condition could move up and also be able to capture that dividend okay in addition to those dividend capture stocks that we're going to talk about I just want to remind you that the Wall Street Money Letter I don't believe it's up yet on the TFN but once it's up there subscribers who subscribe will be getting specific AI prices to try to buy any of these stocks that we are recommending whether it be dividend capture ETFs or low price stocks right now I want to talk about some low price stock things I mentioned that usually in the month of December November December as people are doing tax planning what they tend to do is they say okay well I have a profit gain so if I want to offset my gains by losses and if you have $10,000 worth of gains and you have losses equivalent to $10,000 if you sell your losses of $10,000 against your gains of $10,000 basically you won't have to pay any capital gains for this year so many astute investors are knowledgeable people tend to sell their losing stocks going into the November and December time period okay and they may love the stock so therefore they are selling the stock they are taking a loss but come January or come 31 days after they sell the stock to avoid a watch sale they buy the stock back and when they buy the stock back in January the stocks tend to move up buying it and selling and therefore prices move up so the strategy that I am suggesting to you is called the January effect because in January many of these low price stocks move up and because they are being bought back by the people that sold them in November and December we talked about the market retesting its previous lows everyone seems to be looking for a low in October which has been the case for many many years I believe that we are far away from that and the low may take place in November we will be right back we will be right back sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you have to practice sure but you also need excellent instruction from experts at TFNN you 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Bank of America BAC and I put that chart up on Bruno oscillator and you can see Duncan that we got down to around $25 level which was support and Duncan was moving up with the rally up to the current price of $26.95 actually now $2702 and basically Bank of America should continue to move up as this Mac rally moves up and I said that I think we have another 50 points in the S&P 500 to move up most likely that may happen next week not this week of course we're still bouncing from the support level of 4200 that we had mentioned a couple of weeks ago and once the rally is over we may turn over and come down until we're able to move back up so I will continue to hold on to Bank of America BAC and as I mentioned in yesterday's program Duncan is interested in BAC but the rest of our audience can care less maybe about BAC so I didn't want to use our time based on a buy, sell or hold concept that many other radio hosts very nicely doing that but the fact is that Ellen or Megan my granddaughter has agreed to do a buy, sell or hold segment for listeners of our program sometime next week and that means is anyone interested in a particular stock that they own in their portfolio and one that they're considering buying and so on and one are expertise on Megan's research and analysis well you can send us an email at peter at tfnn.com peter at tfnn.com and given enough time Megan can do the whole analysis and give you some buy points and sell points some recommendations as to buy, sell or hold so we're going to be doing a segment next week with Megan online with buy, sell or hold and for those who are interested in our cycle analysis based on cycles similar to what Duncan was requesting then just send us an email at pwno, pvlpeter at tfnn.com and Megan will be happy to do the analysis and we'll cover that in next week's program talking about the New York Stock Exchange Low Price Stocks which is segment that we're going to review now I mentioned that many, many years ago someone who borrowed $500 from his mother made millions of dollars by buying stocks and the New York Stock Exchange under $5 to share if they went down to four he bought more if they went down to three he bought more and therefore the statistics there is one third of those stocks and you don't have to have a hundred stocks you can have ten stocks but one third of those stocks stayed the same then that moved sideways one third of the stocks went out of business and one third of the stocks became winners once again and so therefore the amount of stocks that became winners made up for the losses or the inactive stocks that person used to do an analysis a fundamental analysis of all the stocks that he was choosing on the New York Stock Exchange and he picked the New York Stock Exchange because they have fringent requirements to be state listed so it was kind of a nice thing to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange a procedures thing rather than to be delisted and trade on the over-the-counter market or NASDAQ so firms try their best to meet the requirements to stay listed on the New York Stock Exchange that means they may try harder so therefore what he realized he had to do all the fundamental analysis that he was choosing under $5 a share it really didn't matter because whether he did the fundamental analysis or the fundamentals were good or the fundamentals weren't so hot they they still surpassed his expectations we had a newsletter called the Wall Street Money Tree which we did a few years ago on my radio program we picked 10 stocks one of the stocks was Xerox it was like $3 a share if you look at the fundamentals for Xerox you wouldn't have bought the stock they owed millions and millions of dollars and they were at a deficit but that stock went from $3 a share to $11 a share during that January effect so you really can't think about the fundamentals you're thinking about the strategy and that strategy is called the January effect and right now we have a list here we have a few of the stocks that are considered for January effect we're not sure yet one of them is Blackberry I don't know what happened to Blackberry it used to be very popular probably as popular as Apple before they came out with their iPhone I know everyone in Washington had a Blackberry I don't know if they still do and I don't know what the situation is with the fundamentals but based on our oversold oscillator Blackberry may be coming out with some news or some advancement or something that may move the stock up but Blackberry is a stock that is trading right now at $3.56 and let me see $3.56 down 5 cents but it's a buy signal based on our oversold condition as well as our AI and algorithm with trading and we can see that the next support or the next resistance rather the short term resistance for Blackberry BB as it is around $4.50 a year so if this stock can go from $3.56 to $4.50 that's a dollar and she has a stock it's $3.500 if you can make $1,000 out of that that situation the next low price stock that we have is BW Batcock and Wilcox and that's a $3 stock and that's let me see if I can get it up on our screen here let me see this is a simple BW so I'm looking at BW my list here and I see that right now it's at $3.27 down 11 cents now when you're dealing with low price stocks you have to be very careful because an 11 cent down on a stock is really 3.25% so you can really lose a lot of percentages or make a lot of percentages based on the ups and downs of a particular stock but that's also a stock that's based on our AI and algorithm trading and we see that it has the potential of going up to $4.17 so from $3.27 to $4.17 looking at our Bruno oscillator it is at support and if it holds that support then it could move up higher than what they say for $4.15 and that's above the $4 level right where the last support was we'll be right back after this short break sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you 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trading we would give out specific buy points when we are ready to buy these particular stocks right now the Dow is down 11.74 points the S&P is still up 5.54 the Nasdaq is up $55 and the ES is at $43.96 the the Energy is down $2.18 to $83.79 Bitcoin is down $145 don't trade Bitcoin don't understand it but our cycles are able to identify when Bitcoin index moving up and moving down and the price of gold the GC futures is up $10.30 and the MES is up $3.33 $3.94 and the YM the Dow Jones's futures is down 38 points so the last one we are going to cover for the low price January effect New York Stock Exchange is symbol GGB George Boy and it's a foreign stock but it's a basic material sector and it's at $4.44 down the penny and it also looks good on our AI and algorithmic trading and looking at the Bruno oscillator on the other screen we see that it's also at support and look how well that reached the resistance level here at $6 a share and came all the way down didn't hold the $5 try to move back up to resistance at $5.33 and then just fell apart to where it is now at $4.42 again don't know anything about the fundamentals of these companies but I want to show you something else which is the we talked about hedging portfolios by buying an inverse exchange-traded fund if you're happy with the portfolio profits that you have so the suggestion is to make money with a long portfolio and hedge it in the event the market moves down or surprises you you can make money on the inverse whereas losing money on your portfolio so that's what I do basically using the ES as far as selling against my long portfolio or buying against my short portfolio and the hedges work very well and you're able to sleep well at night what I have up here is the the inverse ETS on my screen and these are positions that go up when the market moves down so let's take a look at that we have American Century featured dynamics growth and that stock is should be inverse well that means it's moving up because whatever stocks in their portfolio we're moving down SRTY which is the ProShares ultra short Russell you can see that as the market is moving up it came off its resistance level at 52-55 and now it's heading back towards support so looking at this chart it looks like the market will continue up and as I mentioned I think we still have another 50 points on the S&P 500 here's the ProShares short S&P 500 and therefore that's moving down so you don't want to be short the S&P 500 as I mentioned we may be moving up 50 points DOG is the inverse Dow Jones intellectual average that means the Dow Jones will be moving up while the inverse DOG will be moving down TZA is the Russell I believe the small cap there again they all look the same Nugget is a gold stock a gold ETF Nugget is for large gold stocks whereas dust is the negative for gold stocks well Nugget is moving up as gold was moving up today Ery is the energy and energy is having a hard time whether to stay or go down STLW is the short Dow Jones intellectual average FAZ is the financials and financials usually leave the market up or down the SQQQ which we mentioned last time seems to be heading down and it's almost at resistance so that means once it reaches support then maybe the market is ready to go down or I'm sorry go back up SPXS is the also the S&P 500 and that's also on its way down TES is the small cap that's almost reached the support level so that is something that if anyone shorted the SH is the short S&P 500 that's still on its way down remember these are all inverse dust which we spoke about once before is the inverse gold and gold last couple of days were moving up so therefore the inverse gold is moving down and the Yang is the Chinese China bear and that's moving down and now that's that support which means that China stock should be moving up so we covered a few things today based on the Wall Street Money Letter and subscribers of the Wall Street Money Letter get a 30 day money back guarantee 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subscribers of the Wall Street Money letter you have three choices I can probably ask you the answer I've been saying this all week choice number one is you pick up the phone you call your broker and you follow us choice number two you ignore it I already own that stock or I don't care to own that stock but the third is that you track it to see how well you would have done if you would have followed our advice I can assure you if you miss one or two winners you're going to be with us the next time we send out an action next time we send out an action alert and that's the way it works I don't know if I like to treat people the way I like to treat people treat me and I would say that if I made a lot of money by getting a free access to a 30-day free trial and if I made enough money why not subscribe to the actual letter to make more money for the rest of the month or the rest of the rest of the year on the Wall Street Money letter I showed I talked about Megan Ramsey I talked about my daughter Dr. Ellen Ramsey I didn't mention much about my background and my background is basically was a training director of Lowbrows & Company a firm that most people have never heard of I think it became Lehmann Brothers and Smith Barney after of that but I left because I was making more money in my training school at night time and over the weekend they were paying me on salary and then with that I started advertising public seminars and then that developed into Money Management Investment Advisory as Peter Brunas the end of our program we'll see you same time tomorrow