 All right, welcome back. We are focusing on the next topic for the day and it is on the Electoral Act amendment and the president seems to have some reservation. The president, Mohamed Buhari, has officially conveyed his reservation about Electoral Act 2022 to the National Assembly asking the federal parliament to delete section 84, subsection 14 of the new electoral law. Buhari, while ascending to the Electoral Act 2010 amendment bill, at the presidential villa in Abu John Friday, had highlighted sections of the new law that would revolutionize electoral system in the country, but express reservations about section 84, subsection 12. Now we have former member of the House of Representatives, Cain de Ordenea, joining us this time around to look at the president's reservation. Good morning to you honorable Ordenea, thanks for joining us on the show. We are doing well thanks yet again so let's talk about this section 84, subsection 12. The president says it constituted this enfranchisement of seven political office holders from voting or being voted for at conventions or congresses of any political party for the purpose of nomination of candidates for any election in cases where it holds earlier than 30 days to the election. But the question right now would be, the president had ascended to this particular law, so how come this was not really seen before now? I don't really get, I just need some clarification really. Yes, what do you president wish to do? You want to make for that on the time of the Electoral Act, the cause of candidates to truly believe that the delay in the signing of the Electoral Act was little after the time it was to be reviewed by I like that. And also as a people from the billion after the project, one said the president signed for a house. Again, the question is don't want him on the election. Back to the last time, I will say six times before the final time. So that was why it has come to this time. And at the time of the 19th, further, he had a vision. He quickly rose back to the assembly, that he just had to look at it as a particular strategy to support the control of that act. So what he had done was not out of play. I said that you want to be strong because of the pressure, because of the timing, because of every lesson that he had done. That was why in the past I now made a reservation. However, that reservation that he had sent, that the student would not sign. What I would like to say was due on that day, he was supposed to do an election, but at the end of the day, he left the National Assembly to withdraw or to forward a phone that was requested. What I had said that he was going to do an election was that he had requested a phone that was requested. And probably, you can't withdraw what he had sent to be there or ask that that particular phone to send a phone. So he would sign by himself. So he was supposed to sign the reservation. And looking for that last lesson, you realize that what the President would say is that he does not want to look at that very much. That provision does not prohibit the provision of federal That is exactly what he was trying to do. But as I said, what he would not say, is that he does not want to look at that very much. All right. Honorable, let's really get a sense of understanding concerning that particular section 84, subsection 12. What's really the significance about that particular section? Yes, the significance of that section is the fact that some would say, would not be able to sign for an election. And they cannot also ask any election of the party. That a Congress or convention of the party. So that's what I'm saying. However, what they would do for some of the small things, is that if there's not enough order, we need to resign to apply before the election. So the project here is that we, what we are talking about, which election are you talking about? The consequences, the citizens are talking about the data and not the self-sacrifice. That is our industry. We talking about the data and not the context and principles of the political party. And another thing is that if I reach the house of the next generation, what you observe as a Christian is that the father, the doctors and even the president can do political office to increase their own vote as Congressional and Congressional. Which, as far as I remember, still is not correctional. However, if there is only a private official and a group from this, the two provisions of each side-by-side and public official and legal opinion support is small. If not done now, ISI has a position where there is still a bit of thought, a bit of thought, it's the case of on further, on the coming generation. So this has to be, particular provisions are to start out now once and for all. If there is any need to, a lot of people, my eyes on that need, and take political party, I think, to call it, like it's time to sit down and show themselves. So we have to be careful. We have to be a clear decision on this particular issue. All right, but so I'd like to, you know, look at this from this angle. We already know that, I mean, if the president is asking that that part should be deleted so that you have political appointees having the right to be part of the electoral process and voting. What happens to the issue of loyalty neutrality? Because you also want to agree with me that even in the, I mean, the fact that you have a civil servant or public servant, when that particular service was introduced in 1954, some of the cause where that the people should actually be serving the interests of the public. Should we not be looking at how? So I'm saying shouldn't we be tilting towards ensuring that these persons are not within the control of the governors and the president, because it would always be that whoever, you know, appoints this person, I mean, whoever plays the tune or dictates the tune, these persons who always tilt towards what they want. And so shouldn't we, because constantly we have these appointees tilting towards those who appointed them that would have to dance with their tune, whatever happens. We have seen defections in some states. We have seen states that are, you know, particularly a particular state and all of a sudden you have a governor defecting and all of the appointees are defecting. So what happens when we actually get to that point where we're giving them a lot of access? Shouldn't we be tilting towards the public savers? I mean, the civil service pattern, where we're looking at loyalty, neutrality, you know, for the interests of the Nigerian people? Yes, let me put the right one to speak. If the legislature and maybe the executive really want to do so on the sphere of Nigeria, it's very good for them. I think what the question is to go to constitutionally state and not just limit the fact to the electoral act. Let them go to the constitution and ensure that every budget opportunity, but how to accept or be influenced by everybody. That has to be good. They choose both of the parties to say, but not to accept or also give anybody the opportunity to do that and give them the opportunity. But the fact is, they are very, very important. So that is why I just admit, let's say that I, let's say that I should not be influenced by anybody for that same time, every time you have the right, as I say, from electoral power. So therefore it means that if that should be the case, then the law and the review of the constitution should be withdrawing the powers from the governors and the president from appointing, you know, members into their cabinet. Yes, let me tell you put it, the president or the governor have the right to appoint anybody into their cabinet and those appointees have the right to also exercise some kind. What we can also do is to look at other adversely and look at how to and see a way of applying thought, only putting thought into our own to our own, but adapting Alright, I'm honorable. Let's just look at that. You had said before now, when you were talking about what the presidents would have done was to have sent an executive bill to this national assembly as against them writing them to amend or expunge or delete a particular session. But it is right now, we know all that really happened before the ascending of this particular act or the delays that happened, you know, the back and forth and all of that. Eventually the president signed it. So with this right now, what do you see playing out? Do you see another unnecessary delay or do you think the president would actually do the needful and send an executive bill? The implication of the writing of the president of the president of the national assembly is that they should, they should go and explore and what I mean is that when the president of the national assembly, what would he do? That would be to defend them for another which does not get any better. And the fact that we are trying to avoid, we are trying to avoid the presidential appeal of hope. So, I think for one of them, we need to be in town and look at the solution to this. This is the time to ask the president of the national assembly. But if this time is not taken, would this let out the national assembly, the point is, the president knew as the new department that's part of the presidential case, what that means? That I just need to be scheduled to stand table. And we have to be scheduled about it so that I would like to see that the government would be able to meet up with the time in the new department. But can we afford to do any rescheduling right now? We cannot afford rescheduling any of them. But it's time of the election to speak about good time and before we let you go now, let's just get your candid opinion concerning this particular amended law. So as it is right now, do you see better elections that will be held this year and of course for the national ones next year? I said this amended the law that we have before us. Do you see the nation having more credible, more sustainable elections this year and of course with the national ones again next year? We're going to be talking about electricity. Transmission of electricity. Transmission of electricity. And the use of the use of electricity both has been entrenched with you, you know, though. So this will bring some input to reduce the influence of either water or electricity. And these are some of the issues. It's a secret of a lot of things. A lot of things that a lot of people have come to know. out. And I want to present the admins as well to the President who aligns these to be up at this particular moment. Do not forget that the plan comes from the that the better the support on the experience is very good. Okay, so that is part of it. In fact, we have good attempts on the I've done well for the freedom for a level of experience to improve our perspective. All right, thank you so much. Honorable Cain de Odenne, we do appreciate your time. Thank you very much. All right, Messy, we've been looking at the, you know, electoral act, the amended electoral act, and of course the need for, you know, the President to do the right thing because if he went ahead with him, he sometimes of writing on the Senate, at the end of the day, there'll be a bit of a time factor and it would affect the the shadowing of the election. But for what time, Odenne has said, the President needs to maybe send like an elective bill to, you know, show up all of these sometime issues. Well, but if you also look at the content of the issue, the fact that you're asking that people should not be disenfranchised because their political point is you can also take out the fact that the reason why this is because you can't, these people are loyalists. There's no way, and constantly we see democracy being undermined. And so it's important that if we have to take that off, then we also need to understand that we probably might need to withdraw the powers from the President or the Governor. But that's the much that we can take at this point in time. Thank you so much for being part of the breakfast. We'll definitely return tomorrow. The time again is seven o'clock up until nine. If you missed out on any part of the conversation, that's all right to follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. 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