 What is the role of C4 in both highlighting the importance of forests and in safeguarding the rights and livelihoods of people who live in the forest? What do you see? And where is C4 headed? Guarding the values of the natural resource as well as making sure that the livelihoods of people are looked after, taken care of, and opportunities are there. And then ultimately to serve all that, that the governance of forest natural resources and also law and order at large is serving these purposes. I think we have a very broad playing field as C4 and we work with forestry in the broadest possible manner to cover this full range of subways that I mentioned. It's really exciting because forestry I think will be one of the cornerstones in the new development and climate frameworks that we will see materializing in 2015. And forestry is really relevant across the board in that framework. And I think as a research organization being able to put in place research that looks at what policies lead to positive outcomes, what policies lead to failures to achieve those outcomes. What is it about policy processes that lead to successful outcomes of the policy process? What measures on the ground actually achieve progress? What are the benchmarks? What are the baselines? And what sort of progress can be achieved? And how can we recognize and manage these trade-offs? There are going to be emerging issues as consumption patterns change, as population grows, where populations and households live and earn their livings and how they organize their livelihoods. As that changes, there are going to be huge issues that come up that the society is going to need to face. And a research organization like C4 is there to begin to help put in place the evidence so that people can make it. The policy makers can make informed decisions that land managers can make informed decisions and be more sure of the outcome of what they're trying to put, the policies and measures they're putting in place to achieving their objectives.