 Hi, this is Debbie Daschinger and welcome to Dare to Dream podcast and I Am very excited to be with you as always I'm just back from a trip in San Diego Where I spoke on stage several times and something I'm playing with in the level of authenticity is Just really feeling free to express myself I'm thrilled to say it was rather successful this past weekend You know something that I realized last year I went through a huge healing experience the last two years and something that I recognized is How serious I had become in my life, which was Like who is this person? Who is that? Because when I was an actress and a singer which was the majority of my life into my adult life But a former life at this point when I was that I was a character actress and When I was on stage when I was in whatever medium it was Film TV. I was funny like that was my thing and I loved it and was all filled Entertainment was a lot of joy for me. I actually love making people laugh too, but that person quite went away So I have been aware of it and aware of letting her play more So I'm my god. I had a good time I had a really good time going on stage turning around using my cell phone for a selfie Well taking the audience in the back background of the picture and and much more and just really letting spontaneous information flow out of me and the response was incredible You know It was a lot of accolades. It was all was people including my sibling who was like I had no idea You could do that that was so great But really the important thing is my stepping into authenticity. It's just like this reconnection realignment. That's been amazing and fun And feels so good So I hope we're going to have a lot of realignment today And a lot of lifting of things and conversation Around where dreams may be stuck For you So I have some guests who are going to be coming on in a minute and talking to you directly about that And I am excited to because I am now on patreon Some of you are going to know what that is. 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Thank you for going there checking it out considering it and donating I really appreciate you And so the great show we have today is with philip and jane mountrose They are holistic coaches trainers personal transformation pioneers They're the founding directors of the awakenings institute a nonprofit organization Dedicated to creating a more loving world their new book You can see I read it a lot and I have lots of notes here It is the ultimate paradigm shift a guide book for creating the life You were born to live and they've published many books and trainings on holistic EFT Which means emotional freedom technique and life coaching life purpose manifestation and more Their website is getting through.com THRU by the way getting through.com slash holistic. So philip and jane, welcome to dare to dream. It's great to have you Thank you. Great to be with you debbie. Thanks for inviting us This will be fun. Can we just say the the website is getting through.org Yes, it's org Yeah, thank you for that So people can actually find it. I think we actually own.com and it might forward, but I'm not I'm not 100% Positive we don't usually have that as an issue. So yeah, I'll repeat it later, but just, you know, I calm everything so So we're real calmed out here, but it is org and we'll repeat it later And it's also in the show notes and everything. So make sure you definitely go to Gettingthrough.org Okay, awesome. Thank you for that correction And tell people like it was in the bio, but I know Based on my research of you and the reading of your book you do so much more What is the work that you do today out in the world? Right, well, let me put it in the kind of the story of the context of the of the show today About the ultimate paradigm shift of what that is and how people can really experience that and leverage their life Long ago Jane and I were like probably a lot of people listening and watching Very intent on spiritual growth personal growth transformation and At the time there wasn't as much available. We ended up in a gergy of a spensky school That's a sort of a psychological school spiritual growth and we learned a lot and there was a lot of techniques and tools that we integrated and even written about and teach, but There was a limit to that Group because they missed the healing part the healing part the shadow part the removing the blocks So you can't just keep bringing in the light And you know, I love that title of your of your show your podcast there to dream debbie because that's it And when you dare to dream things will come in your way as people know And what to do about that? So as time went on Jane Became an architect that became a school teacher traditional school teacher And we were still pursuing and learning these healing and coaching tools But we kind of got to a limit with our traditional conventional jobs Burnt out and that really took us more fully into this this personal spiritual growth realm And we started doing trainings individual and with groups and doing a lot of writing and we we realized That uh people started shifting when they got closer to their inner wisdom and intelligence and living by that And I know wisdom and intelligence or your soul and I know a lot of your listeners can relate to what i'm saying Or they probably wouldn't even be listening as my guess So the idea is to be following your intuition and your heart So the idea is to be aware of it which people are but to live it the live it is the big shift and that's what we're here to talk about Hello Jane you want to chime in on this I just want to make a comment based on that because it's it's really interesting in the world in which I live and The amazing um very high functioning entrepreneurs and small business people I know there's just a piece of that When you say the because there's a huge distinction between Having a dream Aspiring to your dream talking about your dream wishing about your dream telling people about your dream But actually creating your dream. That's a whole different journey and you're right living your dream and living it and things do come up So okay, Jane with that Well, I I just I love your theme and it I I just one thing is I noticed Just when we when we came into zoom You had a little note there about um Featuring you and your brilliance and I thought that is such a a true part of it because life for each of us Should feature ourselves and our brilliance Bringing our brilliance out into the world and that's what the dream is It's like the thing that makes us feel most alive and excited about being here And with our background when Philip was an educator and I was an architect It was okay for a while and I think we all go through that kind of Progression when we grow up, you know, we earn a living and you know, we had we got we earned the living We had the house and the cars and all those things and you know following the rules Really? Even though we were very spiritual, but we're still following kind of the rules about how life is supposed to be and then it got really boring And for me, it really felt I didn't I wasn't Specifically religious but I felt like my soul was dying and I didn't know what that was But it was like all of my energy was being drained from me and I I really didn't think I could continue So we were in such a desperate state We had no choice but to dare to dream, you know, it's kind of like We had to be able to live in a different way And that's really our focus is You know the spirit inside of us wants to soar there is that you know that part of us and that's why we're here really to me It just and it is really it's living the dream and then in essence being the dream Because the joy is just the journey of the being you and and what you were saying about being able to just get out and express yourself You know being yourself and feeling okay. I'm good I'm okay with who I am. Yeah, and that's beautiful. I just I love the whole thing I mean that that makes me feel excited what we want to do is feel excited about being alive Yeah, a hundred percent It's very scary. It's exciting. It's trepidatious. You don't know what's going to happen when you bark and creating a dream But it is Thousand percent being alive. So I feel like we're preaching to the choir here And if ever there was a time ever This year right now where people are at across roads There are people who are actually incredibly successful that I know Really successful spiritual contributors brilliant at what they do and they're at across roads saying there's something more There's something more that needs to be birthed out of me Expressed out of me And then there are people who are trying to express their gifts, but They're they're operating at such a level of lack of financial consistency or client consistency or clarity on path There's many pieces so people are stuck in various ways So those are some of the ways I have seen what have you seen about what keeps people stuck One of the really good description of it debbie that we write about in our ultimate paradigm Book is what's called set points, which some people know that term a lot of people actually are unfamiliar with it But it's a good way of describing Our beliefs our mental and emotional attitudes some of them came sort of genetically But most of them are developed over time a lot of them in childhood So it's the way we you look at the world and that term set point started in the 1980s when a researcher Found that people's weight is somewhat determined on how how they how heavy they think they are how light they are So that extends to many things happiness success So where you are in your mind that point is a boomerang that you keep returning to default Maybe a little up or a little low and when you realize that That's one thing and then the other thing is you can actually change that you can change your set point And there are different set points in different areas of your life and your health and your wealth and your career your relationships Jane you want to add to that Well, if you take it a little further Um Really your outer world reflects your inner world, right? So if your inner world is operating at a point of kind of like well, I'm afraid You know, this won't work for me or I'm afraid to put myself out there because someone might criticize me or whatever You know, whatever it is that's holding a person back your outer world is going to reflect those fears So you're going to live in a more fearful world And if you look at in terms of dreaming That is a level, you know, it's a certain level that you tend to keep going back to And if you look at it in terms of brain science the idea of neural pathways It's like there are these little roads and then these big freeways in our brain that we tend to travel over and over Like i'm not worthy, you know or or I don't deserve this or or you know, I'll never get anything You know that I want like it never works out for me. We travel those pathways over and over What we need to do is recreate, you know, create new pathways in the brain Cool That is really the question I feel like so If people have when you say set point, I love that because I understand it from decades ago with with weight weight loss or weight stasis is that it's essentially a thermostat And right and wherever it's set it's going to automatically find a way back to it We're living our lives through set points How do we uh change it? How do we make it what we prefer instead? Well, the uh, they give you the sort of the the ending the cliff note endings of of of of what the ultimate paradigm shift Is is living your life as a creator Want to pause there living your life as a creator? And doing that as much as possible So that's very exciting and that's shifting your set point where you're living more in creative spirit You're out there venturing forth doing it in an intelligent way not a crazy impulsive way not a self-destructive way So that's setting yourself up for success And that may mean uh managing stress Worry and hurry That's the killer that and dealing with stress using it a bouncing back from it using resilience. So for instance I was helping a lady just the other day. I'll call her Barbara individual person and she's worried about talking with people about Doing healing work, you know, like what you're saying getting out there and having criticism or or Rejection which is part of it. So she knows that She shouldn't be that afraid of of criticism and rejection just like most of people listen to this Yeah, of course, I know I shouldn't do that But she is doing it because it's a set point. So you need to change from Uh, the moment you wake up to when you retire to position yourself that I'm not a person who's who fears rejection Yes, I handle rejection. I may get disappointed. I bounce back from it But I'm in a different position of managing stress being more enjoying easy being more heart centered That's who I am and who I am becoming that's who I see myself becoming. Yeah, I used to be that way yesterday But today wait a second. It's like an alcoholic. I'm not going to take that drink. I'm a recovering now I'm not going into the bar. I want to I'm used to it, but I'm not going to do it I'm now going to do something different. I'm going to breathe. I'm going to walk I'm going to do some eft tapping. I'm going to do something else Jane you want to add to that I'm sure You could say also in terms of actual change that it we Describe it as the difference between knowledge and being So you can and you can know it. It's kind of like I think you were referring Debbie to situations where you know It doesn't have to be, you know, you don't have to be limited, but you are And so we all the knowledge in the world is great knowledge is great But there's another level when Going back to the pathways when you change the pathways And there's this idea of four levels of of change You can get to a point where you're what you could call unconsciously confident in being a creator of your dreams and manifesting the life that you want It becomes like your normal natural way of being because that's those are the pathways you're traveling and It's really about intention and focus too and and healing sometimes there are blocks you have to heal them So health wealth relationships career money And many other dreams that could have set points or limitations So people who want to alter them. I mean I hear Generically what you're talking about, but what are the specifics somebody really like I'm ready for this. I'm so tired of that Neuroscience really is a broken record, right? It is something that has Been instilled in us or we have accepted so long. It becomes a groove that we Recycle over and over again and when we're ready to just get off of the track and say, okay Been there done that didn't work. Well Really want to create something different. I came here to play big What is possible? What can people do to like just really stop the noise and be doing what they prefer to do Well, can I go into this a little bit because it just It's kind of like my main theme in life is To shift my focus to if you say it's all vibration, you know, we talk about you know You're kind of wallowing the mud in the sphere and all these things and you want to be up here Kind of in the higher reaches of potential, right? So what you want to do is vibrate Energy that matches what you want. Of course, you need to know what you want to Assuming you know what you want And my my main focus Over time is being in a state of joy and ease So if if you say Imagine life is a game and you can make up the rules. Well, why not make everything joyful and easy? So if you think like I want to I want to be prosperous I want to be abundant. I want to have you know wealth. I want to have All the things, you know, these things that I want to enjoy. I want to make a difference If if all that could happen more joyfully and easy, how could that change your life? So if you start vibrating joy and ease and then keep telling yourself over and over This is going to be joyful and easy for me Today it's joyful and easy for me to create what I'm doing today or and then You know in the end what I want That's a complete reality shift and that's why we call our book also the ultimate paradigm shift because we're talking about a shift in the way that we Exist in the world. We don't see things as fixed anymore, right? If they're fixed and we can't change them then forget, you know, you can forget the whole thing But if you know if it's more fluid and we can start to play with reality And make it more of what we actually desire then we're in a completely different world You know when I was young I used to carry a lot of stress So I would be terrified If I had to go into a boss's office, I mean I don't know what they saw but to be inside of my body was not fun the tension the anxiety the Just being in the same proximity as somebody who had authority and just not knowing and And I I played with something you're talking about and I mean I was young so I was like, you know very early 20s And I started to use something just because what I was doing was too painful And I wasn't showing up right there was no boss who could have a conversation with me because I was a wreck So I started to do this thing where I sat there and I felt all those feelings And I felt all the tension and all the anxiety But I would look at the person who was speaking they were usually speaking and I would think to myself in my head I love you I love you You love me You love me And I don't even know if you can feel me right now speaking of vibration But everything started to change and I started to get really calm and relaxed. There was somehow a connection and uh It actually everything went very well and I was able to manage myself my anxiety and stress be mostly present for the conversation And that is one of my first experiences of mindfully Taking control of something and making a different choice and getting a completely different result So let me tell you I was walking into everybody's offices back when I was really young You know in the corporate setting and like I love you. I love you I had Just so I could connect and have better relationships and results That makes me think of something. I this wasn't part of our plan for what we were going to talk about today, but something that I do For creating the things I want and it's just what you're saying. It's like and you can fill in the blank It's like, okay. I love say I love abundance and abundance loves me and life wants me to have more of it or I love cars and cars love me And life wants me to have more of them or I love to have this fantastic Creative career and this creative career loves me and life wants me to have more of it I mean what it's kind of like I love blank and blank loves me You can say it for another person or a thing you want. I I actually did it for me. It actually worked It might sound silly, but it does It just it and it is, you know, it's all here In essence, so beautiful and I I'm gonna I wrote it down. I love that actually But I did work Very pathetic So if you are to use that for whatever you want to create I love love and love loves me, you know, I love having a healthy Strong body and my every piece of that Is pretty yummy as opposed to where people usually live, which is I want to create But I'm opposed to the creation even if it's subconscious and as I know very well resistance Creates paralyzation, right? It de-pagnetizes the dream for manifesting So what you're describing is actually a beautiful flow Of reciprocity between you and the dream and the dream and you Can I say one more thing is Don't just say it once keep saying it whenever you think of it That's what I do like there's I'm using it with something we're creating right now and it's working fantastically well And I just do it every day whenever I think of it I love this and this loves me and it wants me to have more of it And you can put it in your own words too I love this and this loves me and god wants me to have more of it or Life wants me to have more of it or the creator wants me to have more of it or More of it's coming. Just Just play with it, but it's just that basic. I love blank and blank loves me I Try to think small things I'm using it more and more actually and so If people are using ultimate solutions For a direct path. They're basically connecting the heart the soul the mind Are there other components in that? Well, we have this uh road map. We call it a heart of Success roadmap, which is kind of interesting If you do want to if first of all, you'll dare to dream that's a that's sort of a starting point We call it set your course And You want to get help from people who might have been there before who can guide you we use the Metaphor imagine going on a trip and having no idea how to get there Wouldn't you want to have some kind of map or help to get someplace and that would be true with your dreams too So this heart of success roadmap by debbie what we we write about and teach You set your course and that might mean breaking free from the the herd or the the status quo And that can take a little bit of the energy and and bravery too as we know And then uncovering your heartfelt joy. This is this is a seven step roadmap. So What what makes your joyous, you know, what what makes your heart sing? What's the music that you're hearing on the inside? You really play it and Feel it and sense it find out where it is and it might be very different from breaking away from what your family did What your friends are doing what you're supposed to be doing? And that leads you to connecting with your heartfelt dreams And when you have your dreams or is that vision that emerges, you know Those deep visions like you see yourself in a different reality You get glimpses in your night dreams and day dreams and synchronicities that happen to you in your life Now with that somewhere along the line Resistance comes up things are going to get in your way, right? That's part of it If you look at it as it's part of it as opposed to I'm stuck at you see it's not working again, Philip You know, I tried it and it's not working or and I go back in the fear. Oh, no, they're rejecting me. I'm You know, I'm back in my little child and Cowering so hey, you're going to meet resistance External resistance internal resistance things from the past that's part of this and you're going to deal with that We have the holistic EFT the miracle reframe. We might do that in a minute or two Demo that some tapping some clearing away resistance And then the next step is shifting into manifestation mode And I want to tell you a story to illustrate this in a moment Seeing your brightest future. Hey, I am going to manifest in Jane's little affirmation that we shared You know, I I love this success and the success loves me. Thank you for the windfall I'm so grateful for all the things that are coming my way or you have your your ways of being Hey, I'm open I'm finding ways to manifest and I'm sure you and many of your guests and people are aware of some of these things And we have many of the ones we teach and have developed And then somewhere along the path here you start to take inspired action Appropriate and inspired action and a lot of it will maybe failures at trials attempts, but it's not a failure because it's a learning experience We know that let me give you a brief Story now one of our students Clara who took we have a coaching and healing online training program She was actually she is a professor of physical education And she's also a very good athlete However, and she wanted to actually win a golf tournament But she couldn't do it even though she was very gifted And she realized it was a mindset thing. Remember, he said resistance to the past And her father really kind of pressured her into wanting to be successful And so she was doing a lot of things for him not for herself Even if the two coincided sometimes there's different dreams So your parents want one thing and you want another thing a lot of times are the same things But you're actually not doing it for yourself. This is kind of subtle You're doing it for your parent and that's a different energy a different vibration So by doing some of the holistic EFT and doing the training she cleared that and she actually won the golf tournament Among other dreams that she was fulfilling That's a big deal. By the way, I'm an ex golfer It's a really hard sport But we love it. It's an amazing sport. There's so much amazing about it. So To me and I've done a lot of I've done Los Angeles Marathons, I've done two of them. There are things I've always felt like I had control over In my training and doing very particular steps So I could almost ensure myself success But as far as I'm concerned golf is one of those things because it's you against you And it is so much the mind That It could hinder you a get in the way. So the fact that this client of yours Clara Was able to use your materials and win like honestly, you could have said Volleyball or you know any other sport are rowing But the fact that you said golf to me that's a really big deal To be able to supersede all the obstacles and whatever she had to do with swings and putts and chips and Etc. I get where she wanted to go. That must have been I hope she celebrated Oh, yeah, she did. Well, you can imagine hitting a golf ball or doing anything you want like hey I really want to you know fill in the blank. I really want to have a successful business a successful practice Successful relationship whatever you're dared to dream is And at that moment all those, you know, what about my parents is my father and my doing it, you know The performance anxiety and all the other things are like interference static How are you going to hit, you know, hit the ball at your your peak your optimum when all that static is is interfering And your set point is is lower than it could be 100 and And what if you have one shot? This is a big deal One shot, right? You had all the stuff going on right, but it goes awry. It goes in the trees. It goes in the water It can f you up, right and you have to really work hard to bring it back and Yeah, that was that shot. I'm on to the next one. So really kudos to you and kudos to her For creating that I think that's amazing. And then is there anything else you wanted to say around these success principles? Jay you wanna Well, really there is a lot there are a lot of things that we could say I think To me also the bottom line is our perspective on ourselves you know, we talk about Viewing ourselves as creators. I think we also have to be very aware that we tend to go into victimization In other words in those two don't exist in the same reality You know when we say if we think we're victims of forces that are larger than us Then we are if we think that we're creators of something more Then we are that and it you could even take that example of Of golf of you know shooting your ball and I'm not a golfer. I don't know all the terms even trap or something and then and you're approaching the sand trap and you know You're stuck there and you think and you start feeling like a victim like, oh, no This is the end, you know, I'll never get out of this one Sand becomes a much like that when I was an architect And one of the things that was really I think actually very beneficial for me about it is that Bad things can happen on job sites, you know, and I was working with commercial buildings like you know Convention centers and large office buildings and something would happen and it's not like, you know, you're dropping, you know A glass on the floor. It's like all of a sudden, you know, $50,000 later This thing has happened and you're sitting there thinking. Oh, it's kind of like my reaction used to be. Oh my, you know, now it's all over You know, I'm done for now And I think we've all been there and Rather than thinking, oh, this is interesting. I wonder what's going to happen next And actually another part about That I really like is the idea of looking for the good is like this may look really awful now But I'd like to see how it's going to come out much better than I ever thought it was possible Because it can things can come out better than you imagine a quick story on that one We used to be we used to have some buildings we rented that was not our thing, but we tried that It's a good way in our cases to lose money But we tried that and at one point it was a Friday evening and the rental was on the other It was far away from us and we're in California. It was in Georgia And the landlord said on a Friday night. Oh, I've got some bad news for you, Philip The person's child set off the the fire alarm and water drenched all the sprinklers drenched the whole unit And there's you know big pause and uh, uh, what, huh? And so we just paused there and you know, she said I'm going to get on and do everything we can So we hang up the phone and Jane and I look at each other and after we sort of recover because it's you know It's a little bit of a gut punch there for a moment. We say we can't really do anything about it We always have a bottle of champagne for you never know when So we popped open the champagne to celebrate because we knew as Jane said something good would come out of this Not to get drunk, but just to have a glass or two of champagne Just one glass. Yeah And and it you know it we managed it. It wasn't a great thing. We you know the insurance covered most of it We did lose something but you know it was a learning experience and we recovered and and we're having a great life And that was part of the journey for us, you know Yeah, that's awesome. That's a story. I just told this story from stage I actually in one of my presentations had to deliver bad news Me for getting that job And so I knew it going into it that there was going to be a huge change in protocol Most people don't like change. There's a lot of resistance even if it's for the better And so I knew I was the one who was going to have to deliver it And there was no way I was going to go on stage of the series So a lot of what I did was very jovial and there was humor in it There was some seriousness, but you know it had levity to it And then I told a story about the word fantastic And how if we were to use the word fantastic no matter what happens It was possible So I told a story about a couple Who flew from america to france and they arrived in the middle of the night and very tired And they go to a hotel where they have had reservations for months and they go to check in And the gentleman steps up to check them in and they give their name and he looks at the roster and says your name is not here We don't have a reservation for you or completely booked up And they start to you know go and have a reaction, but instead they choose and they go fantastic And at that very moment in the lobby is a taxi driver who says You know, I heard what happened and I happened to know a really beautiful boutique hotel I know the people who run it. Why don't I taxi you over there and they said fantastic So the taxi driver drives them to this place And they could have been very crestfallen, but instead they end up in a place They never would have known about off the beaten track The only room that's left is like a presidential suite which they get The person who runs it is friends with the taxi driver fantastic So you can imagine the entire trip is like this and I told a lot of stories It was amazing to me how much everybody in the audience remembered it Because we were in a workshop where there was a deluge of rain People were running around in high heels outside in the rain and a lot of things that weren't expected but everybody was running around saying fantastic And you know, everyone was living from that place So the shift that can happen when we use things like that I already know the potency of that. So I love where this conversation is going. I know when we come back we're going to be doing a little bit of experimentation for people so they can have a visceral experience of some of what you do And so for the watchers for the listeners, this is dear to dream and thank you for Tuning in or watching us if you like watching us go to youtube.com Slash Deb on the radio subscribe because it comes right into your box and isn't that nice and easy And if you're on one of the many amazing podcast sites Absolutely leave a five star review, you know, trust me. I don't know if you know how all the Metrics works for these but it's actually quite important besides people finding it It's also bumps us up in relevance and that's what we want. We want to get out there Even more than we already are so for the right people can have this conversation with us So dear to dream five star review. 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We are I want to talk about now Clearing those downers clearing those roadblocks some of what you offer to people to create these shifts And by the way, if there's going to be a process just so you know, I'm really happy to be the You know your audience through your your client So everybody who's watching or listening can also participate Well, one of one of the techniques we developed Was a special version of eft, which many people may be familiar with the emotional freedom technique tapping technique We were the early adopters of it and wrote one of the first books on getting through to your motions with eft and we've developed these Editions to eft because eft is a wonderful tool sort of like Let's say, you know a hammer or uh, if you you know, how do you use it? You know, you can just use it very basically you could be very skilled at it So if you know how to do different things with it You can get much better and quicker results in certain situations, especially if they're more knotty or tangled so, uh A phrase we use because eft uses an affirmation and usually it says even though I have this problem and this fear this negative belief this issue this I I still can love and accept myself. That's the the classic eft original affirmation You say that while you're tapping a pressure point The heel of your hand is one place. So you say that three times allowed So the mantra we use in what we call the miracle reframe This is something that many people have watched our videos and done this over the years thousands Is changing that and this is a very pop. We talked about vibrations earlier debbie, right? Listen to this phrase. This is something Jane and I kind of came up with or downloaded However, you know, you're in the right place at the right time to come upon something we shared that one earlier about thanking the universe and getting things Uh, so this one the miracle reframe is Anything is possible And miracles are happening now Anything is possible and miracles are happening now That's the magic phrase so With the eft you you start with the issue and you and whatever the issue about your dreaming even I have this relationship issue This health issue This job issue whatever it is Or I have this fear I have this doubt etc. Anything is possible and miracles are happening now And I just insert something For the audience if you want to try it you can actually tap we'll call it tap along with this A good place to start is just if you notice any stress tension or anxiety Because you want to have something you can kind of measure before and after And so you can kind of that's something where you can kind of tell right away if there's any change Right debbie. Did you want to off? Did you want to give you something of yourself just to measure? Or you don't have to but did you want to just put something out there and that Nothing comes to mind we can do and what are you looking for specifically? Well, if you had a stressor, you know something that's a stressor for you could be something small It doesn't have to be the biggest thing in the world. You know could be bigger small, but Sure. Okay. Uh, yeah, I'll use this one. So I'm uh navigating into I'm I am willing to play big I'm willing to do stuff in spite of And the places I'm shifting into is uh, for instance Okay, perfect. I'm I'm starting brand new masterminds for people who are ready to be visible Yes, and to handle the great project Spirituality. Yeah, I love that I am so that so the the resistance remember talked about that roadmap earlier and you meet resistance and that's part of it Um, and then you do something like we're doing holistic EFT the miracle reframe to overcome it as so What is the uh challenger that the negative emotion the interference about doing that wonderful sounds like a wonderful new mastermind idea? What what would you say is the The resistance Yeah, the resistance is like I want to be there I want to be doing it like And instead there's minutia between me and the dream There's okay. How do we bring in the client? You know besides the clients are ready to work with but how do I bring in the clients? What kind of webinars do we need to do? Okay? What is the price point? Where are the venues? You know how all the minutia. Yeah, there's a minutia So would you say is what do you describe it as uncertainty confusion those things or something else? Good question. I think it's would be more like confusion but also like not knowing what I don't know yet Yeah, confusion and Yeah, confusion. Do you have another word for that Jin not knowing things confusion is uh, when you don't know something you fear of the unknown There could be anxiety about anxiety. She was saying like houses. I don't know how this is going to happen You know trying when you're trying to figure everything out, which we never can anyhow, of course But we always try, you know, you can have anxiety or it could be confusion anxiety. It could be both I would typify. I don't think I have anxiety. I have a lot of excitement, but I have frustration frustration. Okay What we measure that what's called the suds level the standard units of distress So we self report so one out of 10 10 being total how much confusion? Frustration for confusion would only be a four frustration would be big Yeah, so how much out of 10 on frustration? I'm going to give it a nine Yeah, okay. So now we'll tap on that and see uh the shift that can occur with the miracle reframe any of t Okay, so we tap the heel of our hand and say even though I have this frustration Even though I have this frustration About the what the upcoming mastermind or about creating and leading a mastermind about creating and leading a mastermind Um, I know that anything is possible and miracles are happening now I love this. I know that anything is possible and miracles are happening right now Even though I have this frustration. I know that anything is possible and miracles are happening now Even though I have this frustration anything is possible and Miracles are happening right now Even though I have this frustration. I know that anything is possible and miracles are happening now even though I have this frustration miracles are happening and anything is possible right now right that's fine it's very forgiving okay so now we're gonna tap the points I'll just I'll just point them out for the audio people or so you tap the top of your head that kind of the good boy good girl point tapping so say this issue or this this frustration this frustration and then the eyebrow either or both sides at the eyebrow where it meets in the nose this frustration tapping about five or six times firmly or touching this frustration and the side of the eye either both sides this frustration this frustration under the eye the bone there in the middle this frustration either both sides under the nose between the nose and the lip this frustration this frustration and then the chin middle lower the chin tapping or touching firmly five to seven times this frustration the collarbone the ridge underneath your neck there's a bone there's a little bump in the middle toward the middle of your chest on either both sides underneath it it might be tender these are all pressure points you're tapping and saying again this frustration this frustration under the armpit either both sides kind of like you're hugging yourself you're tapping with your whole hand there's a specific point but it's not like acupuncture you just get the general area you'll get it this frustration you're tapping or touching and I do the monkey version you can do that too okay and now we do what one little thing we part of holistic EFT we do the reset process we just added it's two more things where you tap across the top of your head laterally so you get the left and right brain and you can say anything is possible on the top of your head anything is possible and now you're tapping your heart to integrate this into your heart and miracles are happening now and miracles are happening now and you take a deep breath and we allow things to shift and reintegrate and and that was one round of the holistic if you have to the miracle reframe with the reset process there at the end anything you're noticing now Debbie yeah totally of course I mean how could you not as far as I'm concerned I know I find this really powerful so I'm super calm and relaxed but I feel this is what it feels like in my body like elements particles atoms slowed down puddle expansion the best I could describe it but there is definitely this and the emotion now about the creating the new mastermind the emotion or the set point where we kind of vibrating now at I get a six okay a six of frustration is six yes so six so you still have some left okay and that's fine so so the people just to get a sense of what this is not everything disappears with one round of tapping although sometimes it does and especially the more complex it is because there's probably a lot of pieces to this so you could do another round and we can just tap and we're just tapping quickly the top of head like remaining is it frustration or there's something else that emerged by the way there's sometimes other things that come out yeah so I so when you ask this good question so I hear overwhelm overwhelmed right and one out of ten ten being total how overwhelmed and eight okay so that's higher so we would tap on that we can just do another round this overwhelm we're tapping the points again the top of head this overwhelm this overwhelm okay and the eyebrow point again either both sides this overwhelm you can touch or tap it this overwhelm side of the eyes this overwhelm this overwhelm under the eye this overwhelm this overwhelm under the nose this overwhelm this overwhelm chin this overwhelm this overwhelm and the collarbone this overwhelm this overwhelm Right, and under the arm, or armpits, and then the reset points on the top, anything is possible, where you're tapping across the top of the head for the left and right brain, anything is possible, and tapping your heart, integrating your heart intelligent, and miracles are happening now, opening your heart, and miracles are happening now. So it's a way of reconfiguring energy, seeing different possibilities, being in a different place, shifting your set point, and it's something which may continue to integrate over time too, and there may be more pieces to it. Just any thoughts now where you are at this point, Debbie? Yeah, that was really interesting because overwhelm is actually a thing for me, it's sometimes a default, and I ended this feeling so excited, like the process wasn't scary, or overwhelming, it just was like, oh, it is the journey to get there, so I just feel excited right now. Great. Jane, did you want to mention anything? Yes, that made me think, when you said excited, Phillip, he didn't have the chance really to go through the point, when he got to action, he mentioned inspired action, and that's a certain state, and it is a state where you're just excited about creating what you want. Not, I'm afraid it won't work, or I don't know all the details, or you know, there's so many things, it just, I'm doing this, this is wonderful, it's inspired action. If you're afraid and you're taking action, I think everybody probably has examples of that, the results are not likely to be what you want. You want to be excited, and your heart's in it, right? It's like you're following your heart, and it's happening, period. Like Claire, like the golfer story, you know, when her heart was in and her heart was open, and that inspired action was the seventh step of the Heart of Success roadmap that we write about in the Ultimate Paradigm Shift book, so a lot of people dare to dream and they want to just take action, and some people are more action oriented, that is a fact, but nonetheless, if they're not clear enough, if they haven't done the clearing work, they're going to literally trip themselves up in different ways, and they're not going to get the success that they could. Well, that was so beautiful. I feel good, and for anybody who's watching this or listening to this, just know you can rewind that and go through it and see where your numbers go from where you started, and as far as I'm concerned, you'll probably literally see and feel them go down until there can be that neutrality from which to create. So just a quick shout out to the sponsor for this show, Dr. Dane Heer and Access Consciousness. They create amazing things on this planet. If you're ready to take a course in Access Consciousness, you can go to drdaneheer.com or accessconsciousness.com. They've got classes and books and pretty much any subject you are ready to deal with. It's very powerful work, energy work indeed. And also, if you're ready to, if you are a small business operator like me or an entrepreneur or an author, and you would like a place to put your products and have them sell passively online, go to Thinkific. It's unbelievable what they offer there. It's a very popular platform, and it's thnk.cc slash deb. So we're coming to the end here. And again, I'm speaking with Phillip and Jane Montrose at gettingthroughthru.org slash holistic. This is Dare to Dream, Phillip and Jane. What are you next, Dare to Dream? What are your future dreams and goals? You're asking. Well, we, as you might imagine, we've lead quite a creative life. We have a lot of trainings, a lot of projects. So we're continuing to update then. We have a whole list of coaching and healing training, a one year training. And that's always updating too. And people make a lot of shifts into what we call the spiritual stages. But we have an intuition project. We're using intuition and healing coming up. We have quite a few projects. It's how many we get through in a year between updating all the many books and projects and trainings we have online and hard copy things too. So we have a lot of things in the pipeline, so to speak. Jane, do you want to add to anything that did that? You're probably familiar with this too, is that it's so easy to imagine something you want to create. We, you know, we can imagine many, many things and our real challenges to stay focused. And pretty much, I wouldn't say I did one thing at a time because we're doing so many things already, but just really focus in on whatever project we're doing. And right now we're, we are pretty close to completing our intuition product and a new book and videos and things on it. And of course, to go with it. Right, which is we're very excited about that work. I think we're, we've, we've gone out very broad with a lot of things. And now we're, we're focusing on going deeper into the ones that we have really. Well, fantastic. I wish you tremendous fortune with all of that. For people who are watching again, I love and fill in the blank. I love blank and blank loves me. God or the universe or source wants me to have more of it. More is coming. And of course you've got their process and more online at their website to play around with. Plus their book, The Ultimate Paradigm Shift, which you can get on Amazon. And Philip, Jane, thank you so much for sharing the processes, your wisdom and your brilliance today on Dare to Dream. Thanks for having us on, Debbie. Thank you, Debbie. This was what you're doing is beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. And if I mastermind it out there in the world, I'll give you some credit for my freedom to get there because that was really fantastic. I enjoyed that. And I end today's show with this quote. It's actually quote from that they feature in their book, which is a Chinese proverb. And it says, tension is who you think you should be. Relaxation is who you are. In the next coming weeks on Dare to Dream, you want to tune in because I'm featuring Brian Seth Hurst. He's a spiritual medium, spiritual medium, and powerful guidance. Also, the amazing Carrie Samuels is coming on the show. 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