 We began a very interesting conversation yesterday. It is finished. That was the conversation to Kachia Apu, kwa se ma 2tende leza leo because it will be bringing in someone really special who can help us understand. You understand, I understand what really it is finished. Ani onili tachkido wa kidoga, I just said the battle is fully won, the sentence is fully served, every debt is fully paid. But you know what, to help us discuss this because when Christ said it is finished, meaning there is something that was begun, that began kitambo kitambo, that on that day before he died, before he gave up his soul, he said it is finished. Ni ni ni, it is quite finished. So to help us understand that, all right, guys, ladies and gentlemen, together meet. Let us welcome our guest for today, Pastor Di. Akaribu sana. We get excited when we get a lady first day here. So na kwangatu, kwa za mimi na? I am usually on another level of excitement. Otherwise, we are so honored to have you. Thank you, dear. You are looking so good in black. I should mention that. Yeah, you are also looking very well. I miss the memo on the shovei. Ni bile tu na, jajana tu du kwa tumil ba, iso tu ki dance pali inje. Let us try and wear heels, but anyway, it is by the grace of God. Kindly, friends of J.C. Sako are meeting you for the very first time today. Introduce yourself. Tu pe bongela introduction. How many of you say the pressure is getting worse? The bongela, let me try the bongela. Apuna bongela. My name is Diana Kitaka, but when you say empesa, it is Diana. But people call me Dee, my friends call me Dee. I am born again, I am married. Mother of Mani. I am a pastor at Sita. Now I am best at Sita and Thika Root. Yes. Alright, that is the introduction. Anyway, thank you. Boile Sita, you pastor which section exactly? I have been a children pastor for some time, but now I am transiting to be a youth pastor. Youth pastor? Yes, but I am not a child anymore. We are in the now Sunday school, I may grow and like add, you know what, to the next level. Ah, but how was it being a pastor of Sunday school? Because I remember I had been a Sunday school teacher for a long time. I was at home and took a buru. Buru, I know. You came to Thika Root. How was it for you? Awesome. I enjoy being a children pastor. Seeing them, being able to nurture them at a tender age now, for me being a musician, I am able to pass on what I have, the talents. It is a good thing to be a children pastor. Initially I was supposed to be a teacher. Teacher? Yes. I was about to then God interjected, but I am still doing children ministry. I am a teacher, but now I am doing the Sunday and the other parts. I love children ministry. Once a teacher, always a teacher. That's how it is. That's how it is. True. But being a pastor of Sunday school, when you are a child, exactly, when you are with the five and below, you have to know how to talk to them, how you will not be able to talk to them the way you talk to teenagers. So lazima, at a hills, how-fi, because you have to… I am trying to imagine you teaching the Sunday school kids now coming to being a pastor of youths because there are two different languages. Tell me more about this, this transition, tell me more about it. Some people will get to hear this now because… But being a children pastor in Nigeria, these children, anything say it, teacher say it, teacher say it. But now when you are coming, now maybe six-niners, now I am talking as a teacher, six-niners in and of now. No, you have to reason with them. So now coming to teenagers and youth, now you have to be intellectual, deep conversational, not like the children ministry you do shallow things, but they are able to accept things you say, teacher say it. But now coming to the youth church, they will be like, so what exactly is that? I don't agree with that. So you have to have that conversation. But it's a journey I am open to… I have ministered with the youth in different capacity but now being their youth pastor, I know it will be Osgras. I am imagining the teens, when they are teens, 20, 125, those people can question you. How do you say Jesus resurrected? When he died? When he died. They want explanation. They just want that one answer. Tell us more. He resurrected. When he couldn't just die and die, still everyone dies and dies. When did they resurrect? When did he resurrect? They question everything and they want answers. One lesson I have picked from these people, these young people, as I minister as well, don't give them shallow things like you said. How I want to take a word, I want to take two words. Don't sugarcoat it, Siju ye ke haje, alafu package for them, it look glamorous, give them, they will not even take it. They are like I. So we have the books, they will turn it. We can read and Google for ourselves. True. Mirim, as you say that recently, like two weeks ago, we do PPI, we go to, asko kumihoko, it's Kasarani, right? Yes. Yes. So the class 8 had requested they want to learn about Holy Spirit. Wow. Sometime we think they are great. Wait, wait. I know, right? Class 8 class. Ok, ok. Ok, ok. Approximately 14 there. Exactly. And they want to learn about Holy Spirit. Sometime we think like they want shallow things. Ok, baby Jesus is a good song but we should not be singing baby Jesus over and over again. People, they need deep conversation. So I was, I was proud that when they wanted to learn about the Holy Spirit, I got a chance to talk to, to just learn about the Holy Spirit for that Friday, we do on Friday. So we are waiting for another opportunity when God allows. That's very interesting. It was. Roili Shuka. Ali Shuka. Waka. Waka Pata. Iku kwa waka. Kuli waka. Kuli waka. Kuna, those were like, eh, so what is that? But there were those who were anticipating. So, yeah, it was a nice thing to be doing that. You know, I can usually, I can dwell upon kwa pasta before me in the kwa anyway. Ok. But tell us about your calling as well. My calling. You see, to napedanga, he's over a story after that. No, I'm naped a story after that. I told you I was supposed to be a teacher. I'd gotten admission to go to education. Yes. Yeah. I think it was, I used to work for an NGO, things to do with HIV and social work. Then that time I was supposed to, I think a month too, two months, a month or three, those are calling. When I say calling, let me just say, redirection of what God wanted me to do. So he told me, I'm calling you to full time ministry. I was in a room, you know, the way Pentecostal, we know how to sing and shout and have loud music. So in this room, I'd gone for an evening service. It was not our church, I'd gone for an evening sound. So lifting up my hands, I heard clearly, I'm calling you. I'm thinking, you know, you know how much I'm like, because it was so loud for me. So yeah, I redirected, God redirected me telling me, I'm calling you to full time ministry. So I left what I was doing and I was to go to do education. So I did not do education. I found myself at East University. That's where I did my battle out. Bible and theology, yes. So that was there. It was not easy. My dad, no. Hi dad. It was not an easy thing. I'm a PK, my dad is a preacher, but I was like, church, naku lipia, kambia apana. I can't remember another conversation I had with my dad about that. But now he is very supportive. I know. I'm like, church naku lipia. I'm like, naku lipia. I did not do education. I did not do education. But you still pursued it. It is good, because if you did not, people like me And a thousand others could not have even seen Jesus. So thank you for not giving up. And this song, this Denier Dambi. Before you did this song, I'm sure this is a musical journey that came to this point. Take us through that journey. I know I've been gifted by a voice to say, I know those are good, better than me. But I know I've been gifted with a voice to sing. So I've been singing. I think since, as long as I can remember myself, I've been singing. I used to sing in Sunday school. Mama hangwa kata rebenede nemka hindi. Exactly. We got to know about the same girl's uniform. Nani akwa na iyimbo. Iyimta iyimba. So we used to do that a lot. But late, I think, maybe I was in class eight there, is when I got to know it is just not singing. I have been called to be a worshipper and to help people through music. So I'm a worship leader. I've been singing in Sunday school. Youth music team. Family choirs. So I've been singing throughout. With different bands. I used to be in Kisumu. So I used to be in Mad Quarantua with Maimara. Then when I came to Nairobi, I joined music ministry. So I've been singing there. Then by God's grace, I've been a BGV for Florence Moray there. Who is a mentor and a friend. Amazing. So Denia Vambi. She was doing a project. Hymns project. So... Ngwali amuadru. Mi imbe Denia Vambi. And which is a powerful song. Nani a liyandika lyrics. Because I'm imagining two. That's a hymn, but there's a part. There's a part. Who came up with the idea? Because I know there are two of you. Two powerhouses. Oh God. So it's her project. I've been singing with her for 6, 7 years. So there was this project. Then she asked me to pick a song. I wanted to do. And Denia Vambi. I picked Denia Vambi. Because of the message there. I grew up singing hymns in our house. So the arrangement that is hers. The voice. It is me. Really? No, I'm your Florence. I know. I'll tell her. Tell her. And if you're watching Florence. Mam, you. Anyway. Did you next? Yes. Wasi wakibari kiwa Nani Denia Vambi. And we back with now the topic, the discussion of the day. Yes.