 Art are That's the beginning of the record That's perfect because that's the best way that I could be Introduced. Yeah, we're watching Lord of the Rings the fellowship They call it a trilogy You're wrong that theme was on point wasn't it? That's the one I love more door The by Howard Williams or whatever the guy with the orchestra. I think yeah This is the Mm-hmm Lord of ring golem Lord of ring no no no the Lord of ring Yeah, so I get it right. Yeah, I've always preferred Lord of ring though. It's funny The Lord of ring, I don't know I feel like the the in front of it makes it funnier because it's the Lord of Ring ring like it's ring like it's not just Lord of ring It's got to be the Lord of ring a great game With an apology that they Stem I recently said that they didn't even know was released So yes, it was definitely AI and the developers didn't even know about it They didn't even know that they released an apology. I think that was it. Yeah, that was the game It seems to be on brand for them really The quality of the game is so fun. I feel like every other month we find out some new piece of imbecilic knowledge about this fucking game and I'm not sure I'm not sure they're entirely aware that they actually made a game. Yeah No, they're like, I thought this was just a joke Why did you release it? What the fuck? Anyway, that's that's as great as intros you need to say that we're gonna watch one of the greatest Trilogy's of all time if not the greatest trilogy of all time the greatest I mean it's it is great, isn't it? Yeah, and we'd like for you to join us I suppose or at least watch this video while we commentate on what's so great And so terrible that part will be pretty quick. I'd imagine. Yeah, you guys ready? Yep. I'm ready. All right Three two one go much that once was is lost for none now live who remember it I opened up my file and like the the media player and not vlc so I can't add subtitles Oh, you should just listen to the movie then Everyone shut up for the next three hours and 20 minutes and It will make it easier for me to pay attention It began with the forging of the great rings. It's nice to hear the real Galadriel It'll be cool when they make a tv show going over all the construction of these rings. It's gonna be great The greatest of elven smiths did not know it an alloy. What did you know that you can mix metals together? What what is this devil ray and nine? Nine rings were gifted to the race of men Which is your favorite nine mortal men doomed to die minus four Um, I think six has got a lot going on. I don't know. I like nine because you can say it like it's nine But they were all of them deceived For another ring was made. It's funny how I'm seeing all this I haven't seen these since having seen rings of power. So it's on the brain Yeah, I haven't seen it. Does that pollute it for you? Not at all It's more so just like look at the source that they almost just try to destroy He poured his cruelty his malice and his will to dominate all life But it was a great way to start these movies this quick I mean for those who hadn't read Tolkien to to be able to really in a very short economical period of time They set the stage. You know exactly what's going on three lands of middle earth fell to the power of the ring But there were some Who resisted I always did like the fact that this takes place like Two and a half thousand years before like the present and yet technology has not advanced the single bit in that entire time Yeah, that's like every single fantasy series Yeah, that yeah time lock for eternity I love that that scene where they all just like swing their swords in units and it's like this giant machine like meat grinder Yeah, it's so cool What do you guys think about having Sauron personified as a single figure? I didn't love it But I get why it was necessary on the screen just to give you some sort of like give the audience Some kind of representation of it. I'm really glad that they didn't go with the original idea to have Aragorn fight him I agree with that. Yeah, yeah I remember when this came out and the discussions were being had because it's so damn good The amount of problems people will have with it very weird and specific and I remember people in like Do you think it's a little goofy? That's a big tower with an eye. That's the bad guy Isildur son of the king took up his father's sword It is something to chew on like it does having read the books is a bit different, but yeah, pretty good with it But you have other characters like what when like Elrond says his eye is focused Elrond says his eye is focused here. You have other characters saying it and it sounds cool Well, that's the thing, right? The world treats it very fucking seriously that eye. Yeah Sauron, the enemy of the free peoples of Middle Earth was defeated. One thing that I like is that while Notice how his finger gets flaccid Notice how you should shut the fuck up The ring passed to Isildur who had this one chance to destroy evil forever I like how the eye while it's not an eye on top of a tower in the book They did take the imagery from a scene in the book and just repurpose it so that there's a physical presence of him in the movie It betrayed Isildur Oh To his death Like Frodo obviously sees it more and more as the ring takes hold of him and like every time he closes his eyes He sees the the eye Watching him and for two and a half thousand years the ring passed out of all knowledge Man though, this is for anyone who's completely unaware of Lord of the Rings What an opening in terms of just like holy shit 2000 it ensnared a new bearer And then how it also just the good shift in tone when you go to the Shire Oh, it's so chill. It's the most important thing in this entire series was setting up like how wonderful the Shire is Yeah, and you would think it would almost seem like such a It's such a jarring juxtaposition between all this like world shatter and stuff and the Shire Did not intend but the way the outside world slowly starts to intrude upon it And you know the the nine riders are sent out after Frodo and they start to encounter them as they're making their way Yeah, it's pretty well done. It was picked up a hobbit Bilbo Baggins of the Shire in the extended version You see more of the citizens of the Shire and how I love that they convey that there's this sort of disdain for Gandalf You know that he's like timothy leery of the world when he shows up people are going to smoke out and get a little crazy Quite content to ignore and be ignored by the world of the big folk There's something so heartwarming about Gandalf chooses the Shire out of all places to be like this is the blast Is it warming or is it sinister and he comes in he's like well time to fuck up someone's life here It does it does feel that way too. I think a new view would be like really really Can you give the ring to someone who's big and strong it's like, ah, but that's the point hobbits must seem of little importance Be neither renowned as great warriors nor counted among the very wise I do like the fact that Frodo Is like you're late and what's so great about that is that he can get in Gandalf's face Like he has no problem Criticizing him so it establishes right away the friendship between these two characters has been remarked by some That hobbits only real and passionate for food It's um, it's wonderful how much the dialogue can catch you up on the relationships a lot of these characters have As we have also developed a keen interest in the brewing of ales and the smoking of pipe weed Remember that remember we used to get good dialogue that told you a lot with very little I mean this is outright a feast in terms of artwork. You get everything in this that where our hearts truly lie Is in peace acquired They didn't use um cg to shrink I mean the fact that they're using scale doubles and a lot of it Even though they're doing multiple passes force perspective the camera stuff is mind blowing my first saw how they did that I was like, wow, it was amazing. The biggest chickens they could possibly find to put next to the people I love how every time you get a close-up of the ring. You just know that that rings the size of a fucking basketball So cool If this is the harvests, we'd be like, yeah, we put up a sign without killing ourselves. Yes. Oh my god Yeah, well if bill would hit like a hundred years it would be time to eat him. Yeah, probably a wizard is never late Frodo Baggins noise. He early. He arrives precisely when he means to remember that shan connery Was almost cast as he was he turned it down I feel like we'd all be lying if we said we wouldn't want to see what it looked like. I am very curious, yeah I didn't think I'm sure I could build both birds Compared to Ian McKellen. I think he would have been terrible But it would have been interesting to see all the same half the shy has been invited and the rest of them are turning up anyway No, another thing about this movie that people forget is they were pioneering color grading software It was really the way they were able to create power windows and and and eye lights and accentuate that stuff And so life in the shire goes on Very much as it has this past age It's very handcrafted, but the the color grading in this film is is absolutely Beautifully done There's as much going on there as there was with Andrew Lesney's cinematography like everything else. It gives this film a bespoke Handcrafted Savile Row feel of things are made to endure in the shire Passing from one generation to the next They try and duplicate it in other movies, but they can't part of it I think it so important is it was made at the exactly the right time like I don't think this works 20 years earlier or later Well, look at the hobbit opening compared to this opening. Yeah night and day He's up to something All right, then keep your secrets But I know you have something to do with it This is all it it's like you're watching sometimes a watercolor painting Yes, um, you know like really like painting come to life Yeah, and it really was I mean they they had two fantasy artists They had the two best hulking artists in the world working on this the whole time, you know painting imagery john howe and and um Alan Lee never had any adventures or did anything unexpected If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved and they um The fact that the fact that everybody was on the same page that they had all of these people in creative key positions That were all really serving this singular vision And while peter definitely was and philippa and fran were filtering it all without what was going on with wetta and wetta workshop And wetta digital. I mean they always nothing was ever good enough. They were always making it better Remember those days you feel it you've been officially labeled a disturber of the piece You feel it in every frame. It also helps that there was like over a year just to prep for the movie before they started shooting anything Where's with the hobbit? They were given no time at all and didn't even have a script for the third movie by the time they started shooting You can tell there's an ass load of effort that was done just to setting all this shit up before they started And then the hobbit was just like oh fuck, uh, let's make a movie without a script, I guess Oh Looking back on it now It was such a wasted opportunity because they really could have done something on par with this I think that's why I don't know if you've ever seen any of those fan edits of those movies There's a genuinely fucking great movie buried under like six hours of love. Yeah, the hobbit movies are incredibly farce in terms of real content. Yeah You feel the stretching of those films. It's the overload of cartoonish action scenes that are super heavy on cgi It's very tonally inconsistent The fact that they were originally planning on doing only two movies and then the studio was like how about three Yeah, it just kind of tells you everything about how fucked the studio based based on a book It's got like 200 pages to work with And what about very old friends I mean you could make three movies out of it But because you have a whole bunch of characters to work with but the character work in the hobbit trilogy is really kind of bad It's thin as fuck Well, I mean I challenge you to to really tell me anything about the dwarves I think there I think only like four of the dwarves actually matter Yeah, there's just like interchangeable with one another there's thorn. There's the old guy. There's the one with the hat There's the bald guy and then there's those two brothers who really only matter because That was the big takeaway I had what I first saw the first one was that I can't remember much of the Anything about the differences between the dwarves while in lord the rings the fellowship is so well characterized and sort of the Individuals grouped together. Even though there's a lot of hobbits in there You'd think oh, maybe we'll have some trouble with that. It's like no mary and pip in sam and frodo They are very distinct. I can make you some eggs if you look Just tea Fellowship and not to get ahead but two towers are like a master class and like getting to know your characters Even in these long movies in a pretty quick amount of time with rohan in two towers You you get all these new characters like you know five minutes That's actually crazy because I don't even remember when I was first seeing it I was just like who are all these people and you know after like 10 minutes. I was like, oh gee. I hope these guys work out Okay, great. Yeah. What a great intro to like theodin and worm tong and amir I want to see mountains again Mountains gandalf and then find somewhere quiet where I can finish my book The casting in these movies is so wonderful. The difficult question would be who's the worst casting choice in all of the trilogy There is none. That's the answer. That's kind of where it goes. Where is the trilogy ever made? You know choosing movibob as the troll was an interesting one I feel thin Sort of stretched like But scraped over too much bread. Yes. Get in there finest weed in the southpaw What I'll say about live tyler and Orlando bloom I think that both of them have trouble with acting in a lot of their roles But they were kind of perfectly cast for the roles they had in this After moria, there's a lot of really good acting from Orlando bloom when he's like Druggling to kind of come to grips with the fact that gandalf died. Yeah It looks like you shook him because gandalf is someone that he's known to be and he looks really young I mean he was he was he was basically a newly minted actor You compare that to rings of power and my god Well, none of the actors in rings of power looked like elves and it wasn't even really just like I wouldn't even say It's just the look. It's the way they like held themselves to they don't seem elvish Yeah And the way that they are here a lot of the actors and the people that they choose for the elves They just don't look like elves. They just look like some guy gill glad just like he just looks like a guy He looks like he works at the jiffy loom You couldn't there's this great effort upon each of the places let alone those like species in middle earth that they've They've tried to characterize it. They create a sense of culture There's a huge even the hobbit did this well Glad drill is just some bitch gill glad is some guy hella born is just some there are just people And they should be sun's first light crept over the top of the trees And turned them all to stone It was it was like it was when an actor makes a choice how to play a part They were also making choices from a production standpoint what they would do to accentuate these characters to differentiate them from one another I don't know why I took you in after your mother and father died, but it wasn't that of charity You were the one baggins that showed real All the races when they when they talk about Rohan, I mean the design of the armor the design of the the colors they used in the fabrics Were different than the fabrics they would use for the elves or different than what they used in gondor And you see all of that in the film. I mean you're not necessarily aware of it, but you feel it Oh Oh, it's nice that you can look at there's like multiple different human civilizations that we see across these movies and not one of them looks the same Rohan doesn't look like gondor gondor doesn't look like brie And yet they unified right though the people from that area is something that connects them all It doesn't feel like a hodgepodge of random shit rings of power Everyone is like everywhere no matter where you go. Everyone is they sound kind of the same There's like a patchwork everywhere you go Everywhere it just looks like everywhere looks like downtown la even though they shot the first season down in new zealand It's like they didn't employ the landscape Well, whatever you're looking at has that weird tv fantasy look to it The whole shire obviously it's shot on location for the most part And it's it's very mundane very normal and it gradually eases you into the other fantasy elements They come in more and more as you get through the story and it's again It's a great way of grounding it in reality and making you buy into the world because what you see initially is very real I don't know how many you have as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve It helps when you get to Moria it is a very powerful like tonal shift and sort of world shift because you've been in pretty Normal places the shire on the way between here and brie and from brie to rivendell Even rivendell is like okay like we're fantasy, but it's kind of it's nice. It's really nice You know, it's nothing crazy Then you hit moria and everything's super dark and underground and it's like, you know boom It hits really really hard if it was made 20 years earlier or 20 years later It was like made at the perfect time when visual effects were becoming more of a part of movie making And we're able to like accentuate and work in places where they couldn't use practical But they I mean look at these sets, you know, I suppose you think that was terribly clever Come on Gandalf Did you see their faces? Why shouldn't I keep it? I think you should leave the ring behind Oh my business isn't yours when I do with my own things Do not take me for some conjular of cheap tricks Imagine if fucking disney made this like everything around them would be just green screen And I think that's a problem because like even a scene where where gandalf first goes and talks to sauram on it at At isengard, they'll show you an establishing shot that has an effect that's combined with live action And it'll pan down and you'll see the two of them talking outside But they're they're fairly medium shots medium to close-up shots So there's they don't have to put visual effects in them and it's them talking in real environments Then you cut to an effect shot it feels much more seamless But when you're in environments that are completely generated and there's no reality in them You don't get that same feel and this movie does both all the time and so you buy into it trying to help you The ring must go to Frodo You know there's something um, it's I've noticed it's just like it seems to be an amazon specific issue I mean other places have this issue But like if you've seen other amazon shows they literally all look exactly the same Wheel of time looks exactly the same as rings of power. The boys looks pretty much the same Even though it's not even a fucking fantasy show. Well, yeah, I remember about this wasn't there where it's like they had The witcher they had rings of power They had wheel of time and it was like just shots of you everyone and they all look fucking identical Well, what I found weird I don't know if you ever saw it remember the title reveal for rings of power And everyone everyone thought it would CGI it turns out that was completely practical But there's just something that they fucked up that makes it look More fake than it actually my assumptions. They throw cg goo on everything. It's like a weird filter where they think it looks better I thought up an ending for my book And he lived happily ever after that was such a bad way to start to it represented that perfect Because that sign ended up in Jeff Bezos's office. So he's like, hey, I'm gonna make this red sign Let's just make it a promo because this is my giant vanity project The sort of like attitudes and everything that you'd have them say something like, you know with the set dress And it's like, oh, we can ask the cg guys to put in some extra bits and bobs in the background It's like, no, no, no. You've already lost you were supposed to want to do it You were supposed to want to create all this stuff Like that's the spirit of like the whole thing when they're coming up with like what's in bilbo's room You know that passionate people are like, well, what would he have in his room? What do we know he has at his room? And what do you need to see to represent this idea as opposed to like, oh problem get it to the cg guys They could probably solve it You ever see that clip where Jeff Bezos was talking about how his son was a lord of the rings fan and told him not to fuck it up My son came up to me one day and he said dad Please don't f this up. I hope his son disowned him It feels like this era was like, oh, yes, make it with love But this this era where it currently was like, why don't we try hate? No, this this era is like I'm given this thing to make and I'm actually I just want to make a completely different story That's mine, and I'm just gonna don't understand And I'm just gonna We'll port that into it. That's there too. I'm like apathy, but also there's that level some of the creators like, you know This ip I've been entrusted with there's so much wrong with it that I can fix It's like, oh man looking witcher people like openly mocking the books You know Tolkien didn't know what he was fucking talking about. Let me fix it Tolkien was problematic. So let's make something antithetical to everything that guy was about I think I forgot most of rings of power, but I am I can't I can't get out of my head Yep, this is definitely where the bad guys live It would just be fantastic if this is where the goodies are based. It's like, oh man, we need to get we got a bad rap Hey, they just like really angular architecture. Okay. Yes. It's such a beautiful model though. I love it Look at this. Oh the green I don't think a lot of that's to code though And this it's like calm down film. I can only coom so many times in a row. I know dude. No, that's not good. Didn't the nine come out It's like It's funny because people watching that in the cinema. He didn't know the books We'd have thought they were coming out of Baradur, but it's like a completely different city that they're they're coming out Of the year 34 34 of the second age Follows the account They are covering so much time here. They're coming almost two decades here I remember finding out about that when I was super young. I was like what? It's like, yeah What happens here? Gendell fucks off for a long time It has come to me the one ring. It should be an item of my kingdom. Proto leaves when he's 50 Okay, yeah, it's like a solid 30 years between chapters But it's an elegant way of of making changes in a sort in source material that doesn't necessarily Really have that much of an effect, but you have to understand how to do it well Mordor was created in a day Old man wall dregs You know that as the years went on sarong killed everyone who knew that he was like no one will know that this was started by some hobo And the more you find out about the ringwraiths the more terrifying they are One of my favorite things about fantasy in general are the monsters that you can get out of them and The Nazgul are just like my favorite. We still don't really know who the ringwraiths They were just kings of men not all of them were kings of men some of them might have been sorcerers too But um, there is letters and stuff that one there might be some former new minorians in there. Yeah I can Yeah, and that's enough to know that they were great powerful leaders sorcerers the witch king of angmar like great stuff You just know that when rings of power deals with this they're gonna be like a bunch of what you're head and torch drinker I imagine is like they'll be very selfish very greedy leaders or something. Yeah, they fell because they were flawed They'll be small as well. They'll just seem small people Yeah, and they want everything in that show seems small Well, that's that's the thing this the nuance of lord of the rings a lot of people consider it a very simple story But like I feel like a lot of this is telling it's like very good people You can have flaws that can lead to very dark paths if they're not, you know Stullwater sort of thing, but there's always a way back that sort of stuff Maybe they'll do the same thing that shadow of war did and make a seal door one of the Nazgul That was cool. That's totally not infuriating I don't know his character rings of power was very confusing and contradictory. I completely forgot a seal door was even in it Jesus Rosie knows an idiot when she sees Does she? Is it secret? Is it safe? It is kind of insane if he had Frodo understand the full gravity of what's gonna happen There are markings. It's some form of elvish. I can't read it There are a few who can I wonder if Frodo would have agreed Listen kid, you're gonna get fucked up one ring to rule them all one ring to find them One ring to bring them all into the darkness Fight them. I think Frodo would have gone even if he understood That's who he is in the books You get a bit of this where he's like kind of yearning to get out into the world and have an adventure Just like Bilbo did and you don't really see that here because there's not enough time But that might be the ring causing him to do that ring has awoken It's heard its masters call. No one knows it's here. Do they Do they Gandalf? Yeah, you can call this a key moment a call to adventure Who goes there? But uh, yes, yes in the book he talks about I've been you know, he's they take he's taken long walks talking the door You must take it. You kill it off and made this ring. I'm giving it to you. Don't Pet me Frodo There's some really good stuff in terms of obviously that bit with bilbo earlier that made gave you a sense that gandalf's Powerful he's very old. He's a fucking wizard then also his fear of the ring So it puts you in a position of sort of respecting the ring if he respects it and its power You know, I didn't say this but when they leave the boundaries, you know, this is as far as I've ever been It's just a great shot right in a real environment It's so simple But you get it because the way the actors play it if I take one more step It'll be the farthest away from home. I've ever been Well, yeah, and it tells you so much about sam and like what an insular life He's lived into some extent Frodo as well because they've probably only been walking for like a couple of days It's like this is as far as I've ever gone Yeah, and it's like a boundary you'd remember but you've never felt like you've never needed to cross it Yeah, and that was life for most people 100 years ago 80 years ago, but I cannot stay in the shine. No He must leave and leave quickly. I'll be waiting for you At the end of the prancing pony Hobbits really are amazing creatures And that's what Tolkien was on about. I mean, you know World war one tore people away from where they live their whole lives and sent them to basically sent them to hell sent them to mortal I could find it all samwise ganji. Have you been eavesdropping? I've been dropping no eaves through all this and throughout history That's why people used to you know The peasants used to join the lords army or whatever because that was their chance to go somewhere A little late for trimming the birds. Don't you think they're too late to trim the verge ladies What if you like a bit of the verge a little bit of verge is all right. Don't mean anything unnatural No, I've thought of a better use for you. Makes you wonder if there were several hobbits out there would get off Just feel like you're all going to The town drunk is there. He's like yep you Come along samwise keep up The enemy has many spies in his service birds Beasts never put it on for the agents of the dark lord will be drawn to its power Never put it on unless you want to go invisible pretty neat Good luck Anyway, bye Ian mckellon killed it in this movie. He was robbed. He should have gotten academy award Ring is trying to get back to its master Every person who had even a finger involved in any of the creation of this should go to oscar All three movies should one take look at him Look at that a relocation To edit where after this every time sam takes a step he says In the videos like 17 hours long It's like it's it's been it's been six months sam's can you stop? I get it sam jesus if I take one more step. It'll be the farthest away from home. I've ever been If I take one more step Look at him already. Oh Saruman and again just the the story of how he wanted to be gandalf even had the blessing to be gandalf, but man You are sure of this beyond any doubt So the ring of power has been you like the best saruman possible I like that. He explicitly went up to ian mckellon and told him that talking told him Mom said that I could play Yeah Love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind But we still have time he mckell's like yes, but you're so good at playing evil bastards. Yeah, I love this set So good. It's such a great spooky wizard Oh, I fucking love it. It really is look at the god rays, you know the voluminous lighting his gaze pierces cloud shadow earth and flesh This always reminds me as well Like seeing him here and like how how focused and intense he is it just reminds me of the hobbit where like christopher lee is clearly Yeah fading out and he just looks so plasticky and fake Wait, you didn't like the massive action sequence where Galadriel Elrond and Saruman are in the big epic action sequence fighting off all of the ghosty ring rays No, that I loved I honestly was waiting for him to go. It's wizard in time and then he wizards all over the back Yeah, I like that scene. I have special personal reasons for liking him a great eye Lidlis Reathed in flame But I was actually going to say the uh, I liked about that scene as well the dialogue He's he's bigging up sarron hugely very soon He will have summoned an army great enough to launch an assault upon middle earth And I think first time around you might be like well He says he's just trying to make the threat clear. It's like well No, he's kind of on his team, but he's trying to already convince Gandalf It's like this guy is pretty strong. We should probably oh, we do not know who else may be watching There it is. I love that shit and the realization The nine have left minas mortal. They preach the sun Have you seen that behind the scenes clip where uh, christfully's trying to walk down those stairs? He's like peter I can't I'm gonna trip over Provides persuade. I'm sorry. I cannot get up these goddamn steps smoothly. They will find a ring And kill the one who carries it You know what's funny? He's talking about how then the nine are heading to the shy to find Frodo and gandalf's like Jesus Christ You know, we gotta go in this it's indicative that saruman is not a good guy in modern stuff That would just been the dialogue. It's like, oh, why didn't you tell me that earlier? Are you evil? We must join with sorrow turn me And when did saruman the wise abandon reason for madness see this is where you want gandalf to be like Oh, you're a little cuck. You cucked out. Look at you. That's right Saruman the cuck That's cheating It did kind of make me laugh You have elected the way of pain Music oh so good. You know, I saw this movie for the first time when I was like Five or six. I think and I always remembered years later that isengard theme Oh, yeah, you know that Uh Yeah, there's a lot of great Free in my head for years It's a really good one and I've got tons of those great leitmotifs throughout the soundtrack Sam, we're still in the shire. What could possibly happen? There's so much deliberate choices in the action ad dialogue for introducing a character Well and the music as well well really basically all the filmmaking A lot of the assumptions are people ask like favorite characters The first thing that comes to mind might be a gandalf an aragorn or frodo the main character Maybe but this is like mary and pippen might be thought of as like, oh, yeah, they're more comic relief It's like the fucking stories those two have I like that the movie can have little moments of Lighthearted brevity like this before going into the creepy shit that happens in 45 seconds Oh, it's a full package one of the reasons why it's kind of easy to point to a lot of the rings Like this trilogy is what what's a good way of like introducing films to somebody who's never seen a film before however that Manages happen a lot of the rings is like a really easy choice because it's so it's so balanced, isn't it a shortcut Short cut to what my streams On the one hand, absolutely on the other maybe don't show them this yet. It'll spoil the rest of the other films And their expectations too high It's like, oh man, this was so great. What what other Lord of the Rings things could I watch having watched this in some of Most formative years the assumption at the time was that film is incredible Imagine where we'll go and then it sort of became like that was great. Let's watch it again Yeah, which isn't so bad I mean we talk about how we're in one of the Insanest and unluckiest timelines ever for you know the amount of franchises that have been burned down But we lucked out huge with this set of movies the other timelines don't get to have this But we at least got to see how good they can be and like there's people who are growing up now Who are going to assume that that's the standard of movie making like the garbage that we have to put up with today That shot with the Nazca The Hobbit's so good I love that shot that shows that like there's fucking nails inside that horse's hoof It doesn't draw a lot of attention to the little things in the costume design, but you can notice them Now it's conspicuous. You've ruined it forever. No, he's accentuated it and it's wonderful and beautiful and amazing and when I was a kid I actually thought that those bugs were coming out of the Nazgul that would be disturbing the I remember watching the director's commentary for this and like they're thinking was like this This presence of this thing just drives out Life in all its forms like they want to get out of the ground because like the energy of this thing's just infected it It's so interesting to think about all of the techniques that you know The purpose is to be invisible but at the same time, you know, it's its presence is apparent Right like the magnets underneath the floor when the ring hits the ground to make it feel like a heavy burden's being dropped Because it's the size of a dinner plate, right the The one like in the snow I wonder if they made a giant hand for that giant ring Well, what was cool about like the production of this is like almost the entire trilogy was fully Storyboarded before they started filming so they planned out a ton of these shots well before they actually got out of the family Why do that? Why can't you just spontaneously wow now? Like oh, yeah, no, we haven't finished the script and I have no idea where this story is leading I don't know what everybody else is doing I Imagine storyboarding it out really helped at the CGI in this movie too because I've heard from like Especially people who work on the CGI for Marvel movies right now They don't bring the CGI artists on the set to actually look at shit And when you don't do that and you then you make like shots And then you just assume that the CGI artists can work around that you got like this Mess on screen that could just be fixed if you storyboarded it out and had people who knew what they were doing around A lot of these early films because visual effects were still new It was like a part of the process that had to be integrated like it was necessary that it was integrated into a lot of the other Yeah, like a lot of the A lot of the attitudes and formats for creation were stuff they did out of necessity And have since become something that they should strive to do because it had such great results What do you want whereas now it's just like well Yeah, I mean we can use the computers to achieve a lot of things like it's just a ubiquitous thing that's available and present But without that like foresight and planning and like all of those attempts while actually filming to make sure that everything is Layed out to make the task easier to get better results Then you get stuff like fucking marvel movies where everything looks awful when there's really no reason that it should look that bad I do like how he's got a separate looking hole just specifically for hobbits. That's a great little detail world building What a quaint little village. I hope nothing bad happens here It's the gradual intrusion of the real world into the shire as well Like it's still got some of the look and feel of the shire, but it's bigger and it's more sinister At least different now Moving through the world. Yeah, the adventure has begun Something that's a bit more explicit in the book But as alluded to a couple times in the movies is that there's people Like further east you go that just straight up don't even know what a hobbit is because they haven't been around for very long So it's also them just like realizing what the world really is like beyond the safety of the shire It's like the real world the further east you go the less people know about hobbits God that was funny, didn't you? That follows them nothing but staring you since we arrived What's uh, hey law expo what's grand elf gray haim is that like a surname it's one of his many names Hmm. He's so greedy he had to have more than one name, huh wrong crow He's got a bunch of names. It's when he does something Horrifying and so he gets a new alias. It's like that was That was the storm crow guy that I wasn't I didn't do that. He's one of them rangers Dangerous folk they are one of the wilds around here He's known as strider. I saw a really funny photo shop where pippin's over at the bar And he's like, yeah, that's froto and all the people around him or the nascool Yeah, you need that compensation. It's like where where you're looking for it. It's like He's like, all right. Yeah Like vigil mortensen was heavily into this, right? He was gonna make this work no matter what I think he essentially is aragorn. Like this is just how he lives Like he went around this set. He carried his sword with him everywhere I like the videos of him like they they hit cut and he's like running off to go fishing before they film the next scene Baggins I'm sure I know a baggy. He's over there. Frodo Baggins You're fucking idiot over there Frodo Baggins Frodo He's got this very interesting gold ring that he carries with him everywhere all the time He says it talks to him and it turns him invisible You gotta wonder how many of them are wondering like is that a hobbit thing? They can just go invisible Are they just going yet? Is that's the power that they have? No wonder we've never you don't know what they are I I love the slowed down Like nay that horse makes when they realize that the ring's being used. Yeah, it's just really creepy sounding I see Oh, look at it You know sarin you don't come across as very chill and happy He needs to read like how to win friends and influence people What do you want a little more caution from you that is no trinket you carry carry nothing Developers talking to like a therapist about he's like I present myself as a huge fiery aggable I'm just imagining him like as the big flaming bull sitting on a chair You know sitting at laying down on the psychologist couch We're just a regular guy. Are you frightened? Yes, not really frightened enough. I know what haunts you You know, they have the back of all through a while the therapist is like you choose to look like this He's like it's something wrong with how I look No Perfectly fine, I'm considered handsome in my culture I like how he's got a sword ready before they even get in the door are going to fuck you up I brought the candles. That's the kind of shit that I always love to see in media is when characters have an overt reputation You can see them do it The strong characteristics given to characters really quickly in action scenes like sam leading the charge there and Having his fists out against the guy with with a sword. It just becomes so clear how much he cares about Frodo Maybe the mud is so soft that he's perfectly fine fine. Yeah We need a stinger of him like crawling out from under the door Or like he just punches punches through the door bloody Nazgul every time You just hear a knocking from the other side of the muffle Oh that that shot with butterburr though with the with the Nazgul and their knives. God, it's so good. Love the way they flow They're so mad they're molding they're malting And Nazgul getting on the ground and doing the world like x2c Though I will say if I were Aragorn and the rest I'd be like, do we need to get the fuck out of here right now? They coming Aragorn's rep and attitude matched that of a really like great warrior and everything and you do see him fight individual fights But it's just the the boss ones that I like that really sells the skill Feel foul It's foul enough I'm really looking forward to am on hand. It's like one of my big highlights of the whole trilogy Oh, yeah I remember seeing that as a kid when he like goes out to meet the horde of orcs and like raising his sword And I was like I want to do that when I grow up and fuck was I disappointed when I found out you can't do that Where is he leading us? Rivendell Master Gamgee The house of O-Rom Well, it was a show and tell in my school and friend of mine in year four He was just going to do show and tell Lord of the Rings simple as that and be like Lord of the Rings is great I love Lord of the Rings now. Let's watch some Lord of the Rings as part of my presentation Like great and it was Abod head is what he he showed and when it got to the lirts fight One of the girls started crying and we just turned it off and I hated her It's so funny because like I think it would be consistent statistically the guys just fucking love watching like a warrior destroy the Fuck out of a demon. Well a lot of girls would be like It never even registered me to me as scary, you know aragorn versus lirts. It was just like No, it's just like that's time by that point. You just want to see him destroy the shit out of that orc Urukai you racist. They're all like the same to me. Oh my god. Oh, no That's another great example John Rhys Davies is like fucking Gimli is an insane almost idea in your head But then it works like perfectly such a great casting for Gimli even though you'd be like Why would you cast someone who is basically the opposite height? I like that they used scenes like this just to integrate like little moments of the lore Like it's not really relevant. Well, it's a little bit relevant to the plot It just helps flesh out the world a little bit more even if you don't necessarily need to know the story of baron and luthien But it's just a little goes a long way, doesn't it? It gives it a much more like a sense of being like a bigger place than what you see Just because this is what we're seeing doesn't mean that this is the bounds of this world I want to plant here the medieval telephones. Yeah, look at that. I look so good though Yeah, no, I know it's stunning before it would be like, oh, it's the cg You incorporate correctly there. It's like, yeah, you wouldn't be able to probably do a practical orb that has the eye He does all the swirling I like that saruman looked really fucked up after that conversation. Yeah Presumably is that because he knows now the full scope of the plan so to speak I think it's just really mentally overwhelming just to be exposed to that we have work to do Do you remember what it does to Pippin? Yeah, yeah, you're on right? He just touches it for a little bit and he's like Oh, shit. He can't even pull away. I always found the interesting part is Aragorn touches it for like a second, right? And he's like knocked out almost. Yeah, rip them all down Rip them all down destroy in nature. I know obvious, but still something I just want to acknowledge Is like the soundtrack reflects like the naturalistic sort of elements with the shire and then with the bad guys very much clanking metal Oh I represent that as like an industrial version of well and and some of it is like the actually using chain It's got that tin tin tin tin tin tin tin tin tin before like the brass comes in and that's like all Some of this stuff is actually hard to compliment because you take it for granted sometimes But like the way the the orcs look are incredible all the orcs and they're all It's smacked with it all at once you just sort of just like yeah, this is all amazing more please Easy for you Keep them close no one thought it conspicuous that Aragorn just had a bunch of Hobbit-sized swords like he's purposely trying to create a little army of soldiers I guess in the book you get more from this like they actually get them from a Little adventure that they go on there's a whole thing where they have to fight like um barrel whites like these like Which is kind of cool, but it does have thong bombadil in it as well. So yeah When you're one of the nards cool at this point, you're like do you think this is unfair? They jumped over froto selling his house moving to buckland barrow downs thong bombadil a bunch of stuff Do you think of that it's stuff like that that made the fans when first seeing this a bit apprehensive about praising it I Know some people were still like on edge about whether or not this is a great adaptation I think there was an acknowledgement like they were gonna have to cut some stuff Like there was no way they could fit all the yeah Like the whole thong bombadil chapter has basically fuck all to do with literally anything in that whole trilogy Like there's a point where at the end of two towers in the book It's paced a little bit differently because at the end of two towers Is when sam and froto are in she lobbs lair sam has a line where he's like man I wish tom was here and I had to like take a moment to be like who the fuck is tom I love when you get this glimpse of them and I also see this is like give it to me and this will be chill Okay, and then he's like no, he's like all right. Fuck you then And this aragorn guy ruins it. I love that. This is the first scene vego mortensen did it the first of many times Where froto is injured and screaming I love that one just went fuck this about Also this always confused me how did he get lost the Nazgul he was looking around like what's going on It's like it's just you an aragorn back. Are we like are we leaving are we not? And you know that the torch is still sticking out of his face that went through one of the skull eye holes It stuck right it's like oh, fuck god damn it Oh the transition of the music so awesome. All right gandalf get back in the game, bud I like how that moth was just minding its own business and now he's being sent on a rescue mission You're gonna save middle earth little guy. Yeah, he's like like help me out get the eagles travel You need me to travel high for her I don't think i'm equipped for this. We just explains the whole plan to over the box goes. No, are there any lamps where i'm going? Boy, I do love lamps. I love lamp. Do you really love lamp or are you just saying you love lamp? I actually watched that recently. I fucking love that movie. It's so good Are they making the crusty burger ribwitch? In Mordor? I don't think so Authentic letter of grated meat and praises the hell out of it I don't mind the taste I mean the clean answer is no frigging. They are not but yeah, this is the crusty burger ribwitch All right, calm down if he kills that guy's sorry. I was gonna be like that's your breakfast now By the way, we're not wasting a single thing here. That was your dad. That was your father You killed him. I will call you rupa It's great like these things have literally just been born and they like shove them into armor and give them swords Dude, they're they're bored like where's a walk give me a walk right now. Let's go Is he going to die? He's passing into the shadow. I mean that is not the kind of thing you want to hear when you say is he gonna die the response He's heading to the shadow world Are you the lamp the great moth spoke of? The great moth. She's like yeah, yeah, i'm friends of the great moth. Yeah He's just like if you I'll take anything at this point. I don't know what's happening. Are you are you fucking real or am I just like Oh my god, I made the shadow world. He mentioned the shadow world We must get him to my father There are five rates behind you I was just thinking about what you said earlier. I'm all about how like live tyler's not really known as an actress Necessarily but like that sort of makes her perfect for a role like this where she kind of seems based out Anyway, where the other four I do not know One might describe Live tyler and orlando bloom as actors Paralyzed to some extent and that can be helpful when playing an elf because they are very uh stoic to an extent. Yes This scene is important by the way because if you're one of these Nazgul you very likely were recently set on fire So that's annoying and you're about to be drowned The little shit that got kevin on fire Kevin's in the back like I still hurts guys He's wearing one of this bare cloaks and it's like white One of the nazgul is just like smoking. Yeah, there's a smoke trail behind it Like they're still steen coming out of his face You know quiet quiet just makes everything better. I'm just saying That's a good trivia question. What's arwin's horse's name rumsfeld. It's supposed to be glorfindel That's a kind of funny day You know like Nazgul is one of the coolest fucking names in fantasy glorfindel is is not as cool It's not it's a little it's a little Glorfindel's the name of the the goofy elf Hawking did make literally the funniest name ever written in the history of fantasy. Which one teleporno I shit you not that's a real I think that's like Teleporno that I love that name Teleporno is amazing. Is that a spell? Tolkien was a visionary. She took all of glorfindel's action It's a change i'm actually okay with because she has like no characterization whatsoever in the books I think she only appears in like one page of fellowship in like a couple pages in return of the king and that's it Whereas glorfindel basically is only relevant for this one chapter I'd rather have more development for someone that aragorn is attached to so we get more for him than have glorfindel who That would have been a tough shot I recall a certain one ring net site in their in their forums Bitching like hell about how much arwin was in this and to see them two decades later completely back rings of power was just glorious We used to hate women openly back then Here's the worst shot in the whole trilogy What the fuck were they thinking with this one? It's ethereal. It's not ethereal. It's retarded. I love this movie, but that's a horrifically bad shot Even the Frodo one looks awkward like it looks like you could do it in your own editing thing pretty quick The aragorn one is hilarious The aragorn one looks like the beginnings of a horrible fever dream Yes And you're lucky to be here too. Oh new location already looks so distinct and awesome. Look at it The candle's lit It's moody. What happened gandalf? Why didn't you meet us? Oh, I'm sorry Frodo. It is serene, isn't it? You want to wake up here? This is good stuff. It really is such a sharp contrast between all of the locations You know, this is we're only like a very short way into the total adventure and there's still plenty more variety Yeah, we're not even a sixth of the way through this the whole story The main plot hasn't technically happened yet Friendship of saruman is not likely thrown aside You just said a friendship with saruman is not likely thrown aside. He's like we are still friends, right? Like I know you don't want to fight with saran and everything, but we're friends embrace the power of the ring or embrace your own destruction You unfollowed me on twitter gandalf. Why there is only one lord of the ring And he does not Power I search a good line What you want when you got a one liner to a villain is something you know is going to sit in the back of their head Exactly something that they're going to still on saran would never betray me. I'm really cool So you have chosen death Then you just need that moment of saran being like don't listen to that gandalf guy. You can trust me Look at these mountains. Oh here. Yeah, it's gorgeous It is fascinating to think about how much of like new zealand as a country like globally is defined by this film series Like I mean it really is like a huge aspect of how they're under like known around the world I mean, was this the first movie to really make use of new zealand as a film in location? Um like first high profile probably not the first certainly high profile. Yeah, it was yeah super high profile Some of the leaders are fucking guys. I want to go there It looks like a painting come to life a movie made more than 20 years ago and it looks this good Part of it, right is that the quest there's an assumption that like we've done it We've reached the end. I was like, uh, well, that was a really great hour and a half long movie Plot hole plot hole. He did not look like that earlier plot hole. He also wrote the book It wasn't written before now it written is That brain hole right there That agent seems to finally caught up with me. I'm not like you, but my damn boy Ian Holm Legend. Oh dude nailed casting again played Frodo in the bbc radio series Which is excellent if you haven't heard it. He was able to cameo in knee hobbit Films as well, wasn't he? That was the last on-screen performance from him. It's part of the tragedy Is that that those films they had all of the material to be great, but they didn't uh, Didn't quite make it there packed already no arm and being prepared I thought you wanted to see the old sam do more than anything I did Yeah, the script was just really bad And it was really the last time that the actors were still young enough or alive enough to play these roles We did what gandalf wanted didn't we the ring will be safe and ribboned out I am ready to go home. I'm one probably ought to sweep those leaves It's um, it's character building for the It is character building in the tent, but They did metaphorical They just keep going back. Maybe they do it in the morning and they just sort of accumulate Here's my boy Oh, there he is There he is The time of the elves is over. My people are leaving these shores. It is in men The second best character in the whole trilogy. He's number one. Wait, gary. Who's your number one? Pay it in or mirrors up there though rags. Your number one is Can I put both of the brothers together? No, you have to pick one Um, I gotta go. It's hella porno. Uh-huh. The race of men is failing The blood of new monod is all but spent It's pride and dignity forgot drinkable. Yeah Well, the interest is not just seeing Boromir like everyone else. I think he's gonna I'm gonna say sam is that he is the mvp of this movie bring I'm kind of on the same page. It's a toss up for me between Boromir and sam Oh, I might go with sam. I was there the day the strength of men failed Cast it into the fire destroy it No And wolf, I'm sorry. Are we going to our favorite character or who we think is the best character because I got different Go favorite Aragorn, what's your answer for best Boromir? Wait a minute. Okay. Oh, yeah So Gandalf favorite they had him best my favorite and what I think is the best is still barbie There's no strength left in the world of men. That is one. Who could unite them? There's so much to say about all of them and the incredible work that's done to detail them all and all the actions They take are so important. If anyone said like, oh, my favorite character is mario pippin. I'd be like, yep, makes sense Sure Gimli of course I would say if someone said legolas, I'd be like, huh, okay Oh, a lot of a lot of women would say that I mean golem, you know You do want to who would pick golem this this this reason to pick him for sure Golem's like legitimately really good character, you know, I know a meth head who would like golem Hell, yeah No, no. Hey, hey right here golem is addiction like personified in a character. Absolutely. Why are you? i'm fendigand of the gray blade cut the ring And andy circus. I mean, yeah, it's it's Absolutely, yeah, have you ever seen an andy circus performance where you went? That wasn't very good. Nope He always he always gives it 100% you say that for him It's that auto commitment to the role Um, because it's the same with like a lot of his motion capture roles like seiza as well We'll get there, but the performance is fucking incredible He also did a really fucking incredibly good job on the re-recordings for the audiobooks for the Lord of the Rings He really commits to tree beard to the point that the chapter Takes two fucking hours to go through because he talks that slowly. You are a seal door there Not a seal door himself You are not bound is fate Is the somerillian audiobook out yet because I feel like that's the only way I'm actually gonna be able to get through the whole thing Uh, yeah, I think it is I don't think of that a shot because I've tried to read it and I just find it kind of boring to read I respect it as a piece, but you know, it's just not fun. It is more of a lore book It's a history book about fake things which is fine, but it's not very Some of the stuff is epic like absolutely epic, but it's it's uh, it's just it's told to you as opposed to shown to you Yeah, a lot of it, which is fine for what it is. It's just not something that I personally find very interesting to read You will face the same evil And you will defeat it I can't believe as well that this era was also around about the time we got the best licensed games for movies There was a lot of licensed games. Yeah It was plenty of shit Gameboy games were fire It's it's it's crazy because um looking back like the amount of effort they put into the lord ring's ones for like Intertwining clips from the movies recreating the scenes from the movies into the games to then stitch the scenes together to create a narrative A mechanical like system to approach and then have it be a satisfying game for fans was fucking crazy And you think about it's like we lost that and there wasn't it before it's like that was just a little point in time We whatever movies were coming out got to have that That's just not a thing that happens anymore Well anything licensed for like film connection like that marvels avengers game if you count that whatever It's like that was a fucking disaster at the point where it's not even available anymore, right? Yeah Lans friends of old you've been summoned here to answer the threat of mordor Yeah, they kind of start There's so much to read into as well in terms of whatever what's being told to you by everyone's expressions and the few lines Everyone gets to speak you will unite or you will fall each race is bound to this fate this one do This scene is incredibly expeditious in terms of building character because we've got a lot of new faces as well Yeah, and if it was like by the end we got a really good set hate each other Oh, yeah, a bunch of world building as well Soodious bane is found Oh poor borom here poor borom here way of the world on his shoulders Yeah, that's it. That's uh, l roby like he's not gonna touch it right again. I was like no no Yeah, you want that shit and where you live don't think so every corner of the west by the blood of our people Are your lands kept safe give gondor the weapon of the enemy. Let us use it against him Did you not catch the part where it's evil borom here evil one ring answers to sauron alone What would a ranger know of this matter? He is arago. You owe him your allegiance Look at that the fist legolas bro moment and like oh the resentment borom here has for argon is just old denith or This Is this you'll do us air air to the throne of gondor gondor has no king Remember when they made him a cunt in the hobbit movies. He was weird in the hobbit movies. Yeah Legolas is using a love triangle. What the fuck is why would you make our love triangle with a dwarf? What a terrible decision. Yeah, all right a little terrible decision. Aragorn is right We cannot use it the ring must be destroyed They do like the there's a lot of characters who don't understand what's difficult about destroying it So they're just like well, yeah I Love how at the end of this scene He's like you have my axe and it's like your axe is currently in pieces. He's got several You always you have my other But that would have sounded awkward if he said my other axe So he just assumed that people understood he had more than one wolf exactly My spare axe in the games when you play as legolas and aragorn You have to have the quiver with all the arrows for your ranged weapon with gimley You have throwing axes and it's like how do you have 30 of those dude? Where are you holding the warms in his beard? Yeah, it is weird must be taken deep into mordor and cast back into the fiery chasm from whence it came One does not simply walk into mordor. Oh the birth of a classic meme. Yeah, the ring must be destroyed I'll suppose you think you're the one to do it I will be dead before I see the ring in the hands of an elf I mean we could be funny about it, but it's like that's the foundation for a really great Ark that behated legolas you know them too. I fucking love their bromance over the three movies. It's great You know, I didn't read the books until much later So I always assumed that gimley and legolas's game of counting how many orcs they killed Was just an invention from the movie and then Oh, I love this expression so I'm gonna to be gleaned from it You have my sword I just love this as like a as a beat, you know this little hobbit this little shit just bravely Embarking on this quest and you have my My axe When I think part of why it's so agreeable for a lot of people is that nobody sees like a distinct agenda for him It's like no, he's holding it very pure. Yeah, he just wants to help people and save the world save his home Everyone's like yeah, that works Yeah, okay, the face of us all little one This is indeed the will of the council and gondola said that Yeah, I think it would have been really easy for this scene to come across is Really contrived and like oh, isn't it convenient that Frodo happens to be the one that gets chosen to do it And everyone just falls in line But like the way it's played out it all just flows really nicely You know that there really does there was a character that wanted to join the team But he only had an axe and a sword so he's like so you have my uh Uh, ah fuck it. I guess I won't join If mr. Frodo's not going anywhere without me Maybe one of them stands up to go join and one of his buddies is like sit the fuck back Dude, I'd be tempted to join this team just because they seem like such a ragtag group. It's like this will be fun We're coming to These two just feel like yeah Always love that expression that expression. Yeah Yeah, he's like what the fuck are these he had no idea that there was any more than two hobbits here Nine companions So be it It's so good You shall be the fellowship of the ring I view it as a like I know it sounds silly, but as a trilogy in the like this to me is like Oh, yes, we've got the thrust now right Where are we going? And this is where the first disc ends which is interesting considering that you know, it's like how far are we? Oh like nearly two hours, but it doesn't feel like it doesn't it People like complain about the pacing of them sometimes, but I just I think they're fucking perfect No, I can't believe that people throw such a fit over how long the ending of return of the king is and it's like It's really not long at all The big key to it is look at the ending's length compared to the story, which is enormous I think it's like 20 minutes on the dot pretty much. She's fine Of a This trilogy is now the the length of your average series on Disney plus Or amazon and it does so much more with its time. Oh god. Yeah, the ending is perfect in her heart Your mother knew you'd be hunted all your life That you'd never escape your fate Well, I mean, you know like the 20 minutes of of this film is equivalent to the total content of isoka Yes And next season too if there is one. Yeah The skill of the elves can reforge the sword of kings But only you have the power to wield it There are certain frames in this that have more content than all of us. Okay. I mean arguably Yeah, with a shot of them all together as a fellowship. I feel like that's already I do not wonder It's hard not to be funny about it, but it's a seriously sad moment. What happens you it is my old sword Yeah, take it take it It's funny that you say that a girl got scared by the lurch fight when this is like the one part of the movie Where I think it's legitimately okay to be freaked out. Yes. Yes. This is actually the job scale that I would have thought Scared me when I first saw this for sure. It does. It does really come out of nowhere As light as a feather and as hard as dragon scales. I was like five when I was like holy fuck Well, it's good that they had a a horror director essentially do this To hold it again I mean, I'm glad he didn't go like full brain dead with it Especially in moria you you get that the the gore comes in and it's like oh there it is There's peter jackson's specialty at that point But yeah, it really is tragic, isn't it? Yeah, um, yeah, never free of it and they both recognizing what's happening here I'm sorry. I brought this upon you my boy. I'm sorry that You almost carried this burden and that's frodo's possible future. Yep It never lets go of you you don't know if it's gone always going to be a piece of it there There's so much happening. But one of the aspects is his sadness knowing that frodo has to do that now Yeah, that's right. It's been it's been emphasized with like a few beats already. This is a heavy heavy burden Yeah, and you know across the all the knowledge of lord the rings law of everything like bill bow's fucking strong resilient character Absolutely and frodo putting his hand on his shoulder and that that reaction is still good. Yeah The ring bearer is setting out on the quest of mountain dew no oath nor bond is laid to go further than you will See he's interesting because in the book he hasn't aged yet So he's still as he was when he left the shire and he's initially geared up and ready to go Like he wants to be the one to carry the ring to to more door and they have to like convince him not to It's like no you've passed it on now It's got it's got a new bearer and you can't handle this now I think that would have been a great scene as well, but uh, obviously I love what they did Never touch these I feel like that the world would fucking vomit if they remade these More luck and out. Is it left or right left? I really like frodo asking for directions. There's especially with our you know, our kind of protagonist characters Especially nowadays. They're just so fucking good at everything. They're so Incredible and even this little scene here Looking at each other last time for the department again Like the lord of the rings is a good story to point to in terms of I guess, um Excellent execution of I guess more archetypal like storytelling elements Like a team brought together with all of their desperate skills growing over the course of the adventure learning to trust each other learning from each other It's like such a you know, normal kind of thing to see a story To get like slightly meta then it's like you wish these movies worked as a blueprint for everyone else to build off of Instead of just coming back to it all the time being like why can't they do it like this? Exactly. Yeah, why can't they just achieve something that should be normal It's fucking shot with this Money shot, is that a kazoo? No, I'm just humming. Oh, I got a kazoo Yeah, I'd like to get a kazoo. He must hold this course west of the misty mountains for 40 days Like holes the gaff of run will still be open to us. This is wolf trying to find a way to announce his kazoo He's trying to fit it in he's been waiting. He's like this is my chance Freaking clearly used a kazoo It sounded like a kazoo from my end, but I forgot your mic is also just Your mic is just like This is where in our first trilogy myself rags of wolf pointed out that mary and pipin received more training than rey There's a lot of great things to point out in this scene. Uh boromir is teaching them how to fight on the defensive He's teaching them how to block and to parry not how to attack So if they need to be in combat, he doesn't want them like fighting offensively. He wants them to defend themselves He's taking the position of the aggressor And I we could pass through the minds of moria my cousin balin give us a royal welcome You'd also argue that he's taking the position of interest in these two He um, he's connected to mary and pipin quite a bit. It's not arbitrary that he defends them at the end I would not take the road to moria unless I had no other choice Oh I love it. It's really relationship building It's a nice Yeah, it's a nice counterpoint to his character as well because it would be easy to write him off as like one dimensional of you know He's this um arrogant, you know proud warrior an unfortunately large amount of people come away from watching the Lord of Rings Thinking boromir is a bad guy and a piece of shit. Yeah So much about the hobbits. Yeah No, he's a good man. He really is he was just A very good man. He's got flaws. He's a hero. He's a hero who's seen more shit than any of these people Dude, his scene is gonna get to me this time around like it does every single time Okay, I don't think they'll talk back to me and keep trying though. We must take the pass of characters Yeah, that's an ominous, isn't it? It's like by the way, I know you went dud enjoying the stuff you just seeing here's some more Yeah Ah, here we go that that show up when he picks it up. Oh, I I love how like soft the the one ring melody here is Look at that. I just love the way the ring works, you know, it's so plain so mundane Exactly Everyone's so fucking frozen like what's he gonna do? It looks like my uh the wedding ring for my first marriage Did you throw it into the fire? I probably should have actually kept it. It's on a chain and it acts like the one ring You can't touch it. It's Can't touch it. Can't let it go Give the ring to Frodo And look he comes through he gives it back. Uh, even if he molds a little bit off to it a little bit of molding. Yeah Okay, not Said like a true cock. I care a lot. No, it's fine. I don't care. Oh tussle the hair And yeah, what what we come away with this seat is everyone being more suspicious of him Look at that. Oh, he was he was prepared. He was ready to come down Oh, look at this. Look at this. Ah, there's so much to just praise all the time It's so detailed Yeah, I'm wondering like what this is. Is this like a like a practical miniature that they move and have a camera go towards And they can like open it up and separate it if you try to lead them over to us And if that fails, well, then will you go Part of this makes me wonder, you know the people who like gobble up stuff like a soca or whatever have you And they legitimately believe this strong storytelling in it It's like if you were to then make them watch something like Lord of the Rings Would they die of like an overload of quality? If the mountain defeats you Will you risk more dangerous road? It does actually make me wonder if they would even appreciate it Yeah, if they would recognize what they're seeing or would they just see it as being on the same level as a soca? Probably, yeah, they just be like, yeah, they're both really good. There is a fell voice on me Oh Someone did a Star Wars tier list of all the shows and movies And they had they had and or up at the very top But it was right next to like revenge of the sith Mandalorian season one and a soca was right below it And like I just like I don't fucking understand a new hope was on the same level as the soca was Jesus When you give it time is anybody gonna remember a soca compared to you know, I mean 20 years later Lord of the Rings Look at this, that's what we call fucking epic Oh, yeah, he doesn't even need to shoot a sky laser. It's an old man yelling and it's wonderful Oh Legolas right now is probably like fucking owl all this time I spent above the snow and then it gets me But that really bugs him that really upsets him being well first out though Yeah, yeah, where's ghibli Oh Imagine you were just casually climbing the mountain and people like rose from the snow jing I love um the preferences between the characters, of course ghibli's like let's fucking do more. Yeah, and it's called through the minds of moria I love this voice. You fear to go in there You fear to go into those minds The dwarves delve too greedily and too deep. Oh, man We're gonna see them uncover the balarok in rings of power season two. That's right. We got a teaser They got the balarok there at the bottom You know what they awoke in the darkness of krasadu Oh, look at him. I can't fucking wait to see the balarok again. The balarok is so awesome I love how they they tease it by showing like a sketch of it. It looks fucking great as well I know it's so fucking cool. And then it you see it and it's like even cooler like by a massive margin Yeah, they really did it justice because tokin describes it so beautifully as well that it's made of fire and shadow And it's just uh great monster. We will go through the minds So good. Yeah, and it's remembered forever and it's an example of the the era using cg where it's needed Where it was a tool Better than it was you wonder if it is like because I mean, of course There was an immense amount of visual effects here But even you know, it's not like every single shot had it compared to some stuff now We're like 100 of the shots have visual effects work Be careful now. You feel it's power growing, don't you? I've filled it too If it's like a matter of all of the effort is strained It's spread so thin that like it hampers everything. Maybe that's the reason why iron man looks pretty crap towards the end Evil will be drawn to you from outside the finish And I feel from within Well, how thin is it spread exactly? Is it spread like butter over too much bread? Yeah, yeah, I guess so. So you imagine the tv show the movie is bread and there's a little you know, you've got one You get a nice big What would you call the quantity of butter like on a spoon? What would you call it? Not like a dollop? What would you call it? On a spoon on a spoon. No on a on a knife. Did I say spoon? Yeah Which is fine if that's how you spread your It's not fine to spread butter that way rags. I don't believe you believe that Just We're all having a good time. We're watching He's a multicultural rags. He's like, yeah, you do you that's how they do it over there. You know, it's all right And we're watching Lord of the Rings all as well I always do enjoy watching these assuming the Lord rings the third age The games are actually candid that the team in that are just they're just like an hour behind the fellowship all the time They're just if you just wait here a little longer Of Even have Gandalf like fuck up on some stuff throughout these films. Isn't that crazy? Why isn't he perfect? There was a there was a year between the releases for these films, right? Yes, you imagine the fucking pain if they'd made it three years between each one Oh fuck off speaking friend And Melon What are you going to do then knock your head against these doors? Peddipin took and if that does not settle And I am allowed a little piece from foolish questions because I never had to live it But the gap between empire return of the Jedi three years It was brutal, especially when you were like 10, you know I Saw I saw Star Wars when I was seven and I was 10 when I saw Empire Man Now that would be formative. I say that as if I didn't watch them around about the same age as well Yeah, I would have watched them all at once. So, you know, yeah And we had to wait but I had to wait for Lord of the Rings. I joined you in the wait for that one speak friend And enter Dude imagine I like obsessing over that movie as much as I do now or for Lord of the Rings with no internet Dude, we would all okay if imagine these came out today It would never happen But if they did and we knew that we had to wait three years for two towers, we would all die. It would be insane That would be pretty tough. Yeah, it would be the end of empire. Yeah, that was it was like three years. What? Soon master of you will enjoy the feeble hospitality of the doors We read a lot of starlog magazine and banter tracks, which was the newsletter from the star wars fan club Yeah, I guess it's like um It's half and half because if we did have the situation we have now but back then it'd be you can share your pain of waiting with everyone else So I mean you don't understand the pain of uh waiting for season two of uh rings of power, you know to be fair We were just dreading it. I think gary is very much invested in that coming out sooner later Let's go season two Let's fucking go. This is the home of my cousin's body And they call it a mine A mine These moria vibes are fucking so good. It's so creepy and dark dude the way he describes it before they hit the realization This is no mine It's a tomb This is wrong. Gimli's not paying attention. He's just like oh, we're gonna party here Wait a minute He sells it too. He's not like a fucking idiot character. It was just like whoa, this is weird. Well, that just happened We make for the gap of ruin And then on top of everything else a big water monsters trying to kill him crazy. What a terrible day. Yeah Oh I'm getting in there straight away. Yeah. Yeah, he's such a lad Thing is if you play the game sam does a hell of a lot boy he kills like a thousand orcs He's kind of uh, you don't want to fuck with him I would still give an orbital leg to watch talk and play lord of red golem He's so fucking funny But one choice We must face the long dark Of moria. Fuck. I can't remember seeing this in the theater and being like, oh shit You know moria the dark they trapped you know Oh moria has just got like there's nothing like it like being trapped in there having to go through it Oh, it's so spooky. They do the build up is so great because we know what's happened here And then they do all the the sounds that set off all the people coming And then we find out that all of them scatter because something bigger is coming The thing that was talked about by saruman earlier. It's like, oh I mean, you know, it's a simple thing as well. They can't go back. They have to go forward. There is no rich free This is probably a model. Yeah, this is a model. Yeah Oh, it looks so good Brad there's ladies and gentlemen's what we call escapism captured perfectly. Yep. Oh, yeah The wolf of moria was not in gold or jewels But it's that little quality where when you're in the cinema and you're super into this you forget for a second You're a person that's come to watch a film. Robert's not here. So I'll use this word It's established a very similar to and since he's not here. I'll say you felt it for the first time in cinema We believed we believed I mean, it's almost like this thing it's strictly for nerd circles But you kind of that's kind of the point, right? You for a second you get it so into it that it is indistinguishable from real and then the credit to it Right, right. The world is real. You accept it as what it is rather than people on a set, you know Dressed up in fancy costumes and a shirt of mithril rings Thorin gave him Oh, that was a kingly gift. Yes, but also Steep ass. What about a sword of mithril? Do they have that? I never told him But its worth was greater than the value of the sword I feel the need to mention this, but I don't know it's just neat you come across this in the third age and each of the doorways I think one of them leads to a chest one of them is the wrong way that the correct way is the correct way in the film Yes, that's right. Third age was fine. I like it a lot No memory in this place I just fucking remembered that Rings of power has mithril tied to the life force of elves for some Yeah Don't remind us of that That was that that's the kind of shit when they were saying there was a fight between a soldier and a balrog and a tree or whatever I remember being like, is this some lore shit? And when you guys like no This is this is dude like no they made this shit up You shouldn't have to make up too much stuff if you're adapting lord of the rings world It's going he's been following us for three days and now the ring has drawn him down He will never be rid of his need for it. CJ looks good for being from 2000 I think you really see the difference between this and how he is in two towers. Oh, yeah return to the king Oh, it was fucking groundbreaking the cg on him in two towers and return to the king He escaped the dungeons of barracuda escaped What was that lose that's crazy a full cg character that's going to be involved in many scenes. That's jaw-jaw binks. Okay Super expressive lots of lines the voice acting He hates and loves the ring As he hates and loves himself the thing he like doesn't quite cover here But the books explain a bit better is like the fact that bilbo's first act on taking the ring was an act of pity Is perhaps what helped protect him from the effects of it Before the ring found him before it drove him mad Like if he had just straight up murdered golem and taken the ring it probably would have gotten a hold of him a lot quicker That's pity bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance Just pity that stayed bilbo's hand Gandalf just spitting some hard philosophy here in the middle of the spooky cave Many that live deserve death Some that die deserve life Can you give it to them Frodo? Super important line. Yeah, can you give it to them? Fuck yeah You're not to be too eager to deal on death and judgment No, death and judgment But good or ill, all both Even the very wise can't see all the animals Actually the the big highlight the crazy highlight of the hobbit films I remember like being the golem hobbit scenes are fucking amazing. That was good That's in me too, mouthful Bagginses Which is uh Bagginses She precious Just you and me Like really good and then Yeah, bilbo and golem It's literally a really good scene I didn't say it I wasn't talking to you Give up Give us a chance precious give us a chance Bilbo and uh smaug as well. I really like that scene too Come step into the light The stupendous Do you think flattery will keep you alive? No, no Did you think I did not know this day would come? God would come crawling back To the merchants The thing that's really the the really only bad thing about the scene between bilbo and golem Is that if you recall it is inner cut with the fucking goblin town Yes, yes, the dwarves are doing It's cut in between yeah, and what a shame the goblin king guy voiced by ian mcshane. It's like You thought you could escape me What are you going to do now? He's like a clown. It's like why wouldn't you like a clown? Yeah That'll do it you mcshane is precious. You should use him well I love how at the end of that scene it actually uses the shire theme when he's thinking of killing golem and then chooses not to It's just like oh, that's a weird moment where you hit me in the feels when these Bad movies. I'm almost wanting to like watch it again now. So I'm a hex. I remember the the vibes from Martin Freeman are perfect because it keeps balancing from like this murderous goblin person's going to eat me or Actually focusing on the riddles Let me think Let me think Those movies are so weird for me because I I happily watch them and enjoy them even though. I think they're bad films Same here Scenes in them. Yeah, there's like there's like a quality to it that doesn't feel entirely cynical Like so many other shitty movies because you can tell it just feels like they did a bad job What happened is like they got fucked by the studio They tried and then like people behind the scenes were like no We're not gonna allow you to make a good movie which is weird because I'd be like Jackson. You could do whatever the fuck you want Well, he Jackson was brought in at the 11th hour wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah Different director. It wasn't working out. He left like Jackson comes in and it's like, okay I can make a good movie but I need a bit more time to do this. No, we've got a release date. You have to do it Oh No You know did oral was fired from that project which he is another like I could I could buy his Hobbit films being great as well. Water Brothers thing to do. Yeah, there lies Bali Water Brothers is knee-jerk and stupid and that had a lot to do with it Yeah, which as rag said and I totally agree if it were me I feel like you'd be pushing whatever we gave him for Lord the Rings Give him that again and more. Yes. Here is a check right every number you need at the end of the product We will pay it. Just do it again Just do it again. Use your magical powers and make it about the hobbit No, it's gonna save by the way Don't force him to make a third movie that he didn't want to make in the first place Yeah, if he wants to that high frame rate, where would you go? The scale of Moria as they was showing it then the camera pan around I remember distinctly when I first saw that as being like good god The dwarves would have had to have worked for so long. So many man hours to make something so incredible. I sure love digging They have taken the bridge And the second hole. Oh, yeah, this is nice and ominous as well. That guy was right until the end committed Cannot get out They are coming Oh, he did so quickly like I did it wasn't uh This was fucking loud in the cinema too. I love how long this lasts for as well And the shots capture it so much. You don't see any creatures, but you know, I just love Gandalf's expression He's just like, oh, what the fuck man In that moment, he was genuinely thinking of pushing Pippin down that well The Pippin-Gandalf relationship is great throughout the three of them as well I love the line in the third movie where he was like of all the hobbits. I've met you are the worst You have this sense that he genuinely believes that a hobbit can come through no matter what but this one He's like, I'm not so fucking sure about you Absolutely love this scene the action of it. It's the everybody doing their crazy shit We were just there shit. That's a place where we were we were there and also makes you think Oh, it's a good thing. They didn't go down that way Oh, look at all these signals for like the buildup is fucking perfect and this Hat like reflexes thing might be a sword made with me through to answer a question from earlier maybe They have a cave troll well, it just comes across like adamantium vibranium, you know, you'd think they'd be a mithril sword Fuck them up Gandalf And he's got a personal motivation. It's so good. We've got it all And yeah, this is such it's dropped on him so quickly. It's like you better fucking hold your own. This is gonna be a tough one Dude and it's just looking at them and we don't see him until they busted the door. It's fucking perfect Oh Intense of a big action scene it's not it's since the prologue that we've had is is like here he comes boys. Yes Then the music stops once the fight and like, you know kicks off. Yeah, fuck. I'm a biotic sounds Why are you guys doing this when you should just be like jumping off each other's swords and slashing everything Doing stupid cg bullshit. Yeah Yeah, look at that. I love the fucking fountain as well. Yeah Oh You prick oh, but like oh it feels because like that feels like you could have squished him right there at that That would have been it for sam movie Bob does a great job And then this is where the fellowship shit comes into it loads of people almost die But it's someone else coming in They're watching out for each other. Yeah, this here is a big moment for tip by the way Action scenes hugely important for character for example Or amir get his ass kicked and then he spots who did that for you it was Aragorn Ah You've desecrated the fucking grave you asshole poor ballad This I feel is the beginning of the ghibli is quite a funny character. This is a lot to work with this Hey, yep, then legolas is the badass character which Is Evolves here is great. Oh, I love it. Well thing is precision Yep, you know people always cite the cave troll is looking really outdated and I just I think so the thing about it is like he's low detail and res right compared to like now But I feel like they've integrated him about as well as they can Oh, he looks pretty good. He looks like he's in this environment. I am. Yeah, you buy him 100 percent. Yep. Absolutely Everyone treats him as super real like the way that he's hides from him. He looks great I really I like his creature design as well like it doesn't No, like it looks like a creature I could believe I could believe this guy lives underground Yeah, it's really blunt like you can see he's got this like big bony like plate of a forehead If you look at the special creatures they go into like how they made the 3d model and they like Paid attention to like how his fingernails are supposed to look because he's supposed to burrow and shit But I look at the CGI for this and I don't see I don't see it as very dated Unlike say the first Jurassic park where that brachiosaurus scene looks extremely dated now I don't have problem much even with the brachiosaurus comparatively in fact Jurassic park Like lord of the rings are the the select group of films that got to benefit from this era The wonderful marriage of CG and practical. Yep Ah Such a moment of no fucking way. He's dead like after all this effort already a little face it makes to The fact that even if it didn't puncture the mythril it would have destroyed his fucking ribs Probably yeah, like it's uh liquefied some organs maybe the thing is it Looks like it went through the hole between his arm at his chest I guess it would have scraped by and that could have been the reason why he had that reaction It was pressed up against the like the right prong was actually against the wall Somewhat yeah, I think there's a way you can buy that that would have worked as in like with the things that we know To be true kind of a glancing blow Yeah That's seriously that's like one of the biggest core elements of all of Lord of the Rings I think is that we should work together I'm not hurt over and over they show them working together and watching out for each other Even when Gandalf was illuminating off the side of the cliff, which I think probably should be doing if you're trying to lay low Even is like as mary like starts to peer over the edge pip and like kind of holds his chest Like don't fall just like all the little things like that to show that they're watching out for each other Full of surprises mr. Baggins, you know, I think the only thing that would have made that seem better Is if someone stabbed the troll in the head and then splashed the blood on the camera That I felt like already summed up in rings of power what you're in for watching her kill that ice troll whatever it was just like Oh god And you guys see the steven voiceover clip where when uh gladrials giving out her gifts Yes in in this movie. It's all pieces Also, yeah this shit, I remember being like they're so gonna die What are they gonna do? Well, they run and then run again. Yeah, I just Oh And seriously, this would be an example of how do you write them out of this? And by god, do they do a job of writing them out of it? Yeah, they do Goblins everywhere, I love that one the close-up shot that's gonna come where you can see like the fucking pupils on the goblin contract Yeah Fixed with me. Yeah Ah He's got the narrow slits of eyes. Yeah, just like cat-ish eyes Oh, oh shit, and that's the thing what makes an army of thousands of like horrible dark creatures run away Galadriel Ha ha ha ha What is this you've definitely well and that that's kind of what I was gonna say earlier was that I think the people who made that scene with her doing that to the troll that they would genuinely be confused They'd be like, isn't she badass? Why do you guys think what's wrong with it? And it's just like the fact that you can't figure it out. It sucks. Yep Yeah, and the Gandalf is just like we need to get the fuck out of here Yeah Oh Also fantastic name probably one of the best names for like a mythical creature this foe is beyond in here Run, I like that. Get the fuck out. It's really subtle, but legless is expression there Just like fear in his eyes because like he would know what that is Yeah being an elf and all that. He knows the gravity of like, oh fuck Corrupted my art. He's always watching out for each other. Lead them on the bridge is near The fact that this whole scene is just written on the script and they ran across the bridge and it's better than most things Sort of no more use here What a lie to my sword. Yeah, he's gonna fuck him up with his magic sword He's just improv something that's better than like most shows now Oh such striking. Yeah, well this part's tense as fuck It's relatively simple like there's a gap that they have to get across and they're under fire But like compare this to the hobbit where there's like insane, you know, they're falling down huge chasms and there's like Wood and everything all around them and it's just all held together as a little bridge thing that gets smaller and smaller It's just so shit. Like there's no weight to any of that Yeah, this one's really simple. It's like it's a staircase. Yeah, it's a staircase with no guard rails over like a If you have to leap over a gap like that, it's not far but when you're hundreds of feet in the air it's fucking terrifying Yeah, I'd be shitting your pants if that was you and of course poor Amir's got the He took him both What's the thing though, isn't it like the hobbits need some like this is not something they're ready for Nobody tosses a dwarf Nobody tosses a dwarf Legolas who saves them this is all it's all adding up to different payoffs It's literally like two payoffs in like 10 seconds. Aragorn not Kim Lee sing Aragorn don't throw me and then of course It's so simple, right? It's like in the fight before where Aragorn saves Boromir and then they make sure to show that they both, you know, recognize that that's what happened From the best payoffs will be set up second Hobbit movie They do something similar where Thorin saves Legolas and they don't even like have Legolas know about it or acknowledge it And it's like well, why the fuck did we do that? Yeah This scene and uh the one at Amonhen are kind of what define what I love about Aragorn Just like his total dedication to like making sure Frodo's okay Oh that release the music is like we did it get the fuck out of here into the next incredibly tense scene Here he comes Oh, I love that it's so fucking good the roar it's such a specific one that matches him entirely Now the Balrog looks fucking glorious in every shot except maybe one it's this one Yeah, not so great. It don't look very good, but that's okay It's like it scores, you know mid while everything else scores top-notch. Yeah The smoke in the fire makes this thing look fucking glorious when it like raises its arms in the fire Like kind of emanates out from it. It's like one of the best fucking shots ever And this Chad is like nah, you're stopping here, buddy I love it the amount of fucking courage you gotta have for this one I love that this was acted by Ian McKellen while he was staring at a fucking tennis ball on a string. This is what I mean like Ah I think people get the wrong impression when he says like, you know, you can't act when you're not across from another actor It's just the Go back to the shadow being separated from actors for so long disconnects you from the actual fantasy Which is like an irony almost It's for me it's it will never age never gonna age Years old It's better cg than you'll catch in the look at it I don't know how they did it I'm watching the 4k version and it looks fucking sweet. It looks so good When I first saw it in 4k, I was kind of like it felt like watching it for the first time again In a lot of ways. Yeah I love that they used like a lightning strike sound effect when he cracks that whip. Yeah For a mirror he stops them protecting him. Yeah Because all the goblins are scattering around on the other side now as well Oh, that shit hit hard in the cinema At least I didn't have to wait three years to see him in the next movie Barmy is concerned about the health of everyone currently but Aragorn's fucking like did that just happen? Yeah I remember watching this as well. Like obviously I haven't read the books. I knew he wasn't dead But man, it's so well done. Like it matches the journey, right? Like the the mentor dying is like a big portion of it And I mean I bought it completely that I wouldn't be seeing him again and it sucks because I loved him I was like this character's amazing, please That costed going through more and exactly that's how you emphasize that Yeah, this shit was actually like pretty pretty fucking terrifying And it's given it's time. Well, that I mean it's It's his reaction there as well. That's just yeah Well, I didn't almost feel responsible for this because like he kind of brought this all down on them by accident Legolas get them up give them a moment for pity's sake And it's just yes, it's how much he meant to everybody. He has to snap legolas out of it It's all of his reactions. We must reach the woods of love, glory On your feet Sometimes I look at these shots and I'm just like, how is this a real place on this planet? It's too glorious I mean, that's what scouts are for right? They're supposed to find these locations. They used to have those in movies I don't know if they do anymore There's parts of uh, Arizona in the in the desert that look kind of like this and especially like Rohan Yeah, the Arizona desert looks like another planet. Yeah, it does kind of surreal I've uh talked about before but when you have like crazy weather events where everything goes red or crazy color things happen I'm just like are there directors out there now rushing out getting their shots Like we have that weird Storm thing in new york city where everything was orange. Oh, that was from the fires. Oh the fires Yeah, that was all the wired fires. I mean that shit was real They say that a great sauce lives in these woods that happened us in san francisco And that was weird dude because everything was orange tinted everything. Yeah, it wasn't as bad in michigan But everything was like a deep gray and the sun was just like a fucking red circle in the sky The air tasted fucking horrible. You walked out of the side of me It's terrible. San Francisco look like bladerunner 2049 but more entertaining I have the eyes of a hawk and the ears of a fox Oh, I'm pretty sure this is gimli's hairs fucked up, right because they didn't have the right wig at this point Or something. I remember hearing about it. It's uh, he doesn't he doesn't have his helmet on Well, no, there's that I'm pretty sure they got the wrong hair for him. I remember reading it somewhere Remember his hair is like um big ginger in there. It was like um a dark brownish gray like a blackish gray almost So I I'm pretty sure it's they didn't have the correct wig at the time and so they're just like well, fuck it The cultural impact of the Lord of Rings trilogy is nothing short of phenomenal rings of power I don't know that how many people who loved it remember what happened in it The dwarf breathed so loud we could have shot him in the dark Gandalf's death was not in vain. Nobody have you give up hope the enemy knows you have entered here Hey You carry a heavy burden Frodo Don't carry the weight of the dead Yeah, I don't know. I feel like with this trilogy especially there's so much the biggest moments of it A stuff that you guys I assume like me would never forget The heart of elvendom on earth But like rings of power is actually difficult along with a lot of other stuff that comes out In in our modern age you're named the three most iconic scenes from rings of power season one. I think that's all Just just a thought experiment When I say return of the king, what is the first like imagery that comes to mind for you guys Genuinely, it's it's like a flickering in my head between That and when aragorn leads everybody at the black gate. It's those two. Yeah, it's full of amazing scenes. It's full of amazing scenes The net of moria Needless were none of the deeds of gandalf in life I feel like all four and a half hours of that movie flashed within a couple seconds in my mind The lighting of the beacons love that oh that scene where the witch king of angmar lands on like the And then like the the sky beam lights off and then it like screams like I love that part the best sky beam in the history of center Towers I have a feeling everyone have a same answer maybe yeah, yeah, the helm's deep The one thing that like sticks with me more than anything else is sam's speech at the end of that movie Yeah, that's good. I don't I think for me. It's the visual of all of the ladders, you know raising above the uh That's moving shot of all of the ladders writing up onto the uh the wall Love Is now mangled with grief I don't think it counts as helms deep exactly, but I often think about the the shot of saraman basically March to helms deep that that part The quest stands upon the edge of a knife Stray but a little and it will fail I was thinking of that part where you know the the sweeping music comes in we see saraman at his tower like kind of like saying Oh, fuck. Everything's fucked up. I don't even think uh, it's for me. It's when theoden and aragorn write out Feldeeds awake Now for wrath now for ruin and the red dawn Like when all seems lost and he just gives that amazing speech like feldeeds awake now for wrath now for ruin Hell yeah, yet hope remains While the company is true or or when he's dressing up, you know, and you know the days have got down in the west The days have gone down in the west behind the hills Into shadow. Oh god that speech is particularly pointed this. Yes. Yeah, but rings of powers got no Well, well, you know Stop it But they don't mention his fireworks It should be a verse about them. I only remember the memes. No. Yeah only the memes like give me give it to me now Give it to me raw The finest rockets ever seen they burst in stars of blue and green holding like a Rain of flowers. Oh, that doesn't do them justice. It's got galadriel and sauron just standing on a raft screaming at each other Oh my god. Yeah I remember right there boys heard her voice inside my head She spoke of my father on the floor of gondola So I had a friend who didn't watch the show past like the first couple episodes And I showed him that scene and he like fell on the floor laughing She said to me Even now there is hope left By the way, good ask the same question for fellowship, but I feel like it's difficult at this point Because we've just we've literally just watched it like well, it's just everything at this point Well, I mean, I think the council of valorand and there's definitely that come to my mind first I would see the glory of gondor restored White town of a cthulian Glimmering like a spike of pearl and silver Breaking of the fellowship that's breaking of the fellowship for me. Yeah that whole last scene is just like One of the best scenes in any movie I've seen ever dude. That that's another masterclass on cliffhanger slash end of story They managed to nail it one day Our paths will lead us there the lords of gondor have returned But moria like olamory establishing the shire like I'm on hen That particular crane shot in elonhen is so fucking good. Yeah with all of you. Yeah Carrying you from aragon and legolas over to bormie. Will you look into the mirror? What will I see even the wisest cannot tell a lot of my memories of this movie Like when I think about it is like whatever scene is attached to whatever my favorite songs from the soundtrack are That's another incredibly difficult question. What is your favorite? It's like why would I even bother asking that? Oh, it's the breaking of the fellowship and in dreams. It's just those two paired together are just Like they're fucking phenomenal. It's my favorite lord of the rings music. It's from this for the mirror Shows many things So there's probably not a wrong answer as far as i'm concerned There's no answer that I would be like, why would you choose that? But um, yeah for me Oh god, it's like all of it Is it the witch king's theme when it what it plays when he first like It's famafrotos see him in return of the king either way. I fucking love it Difficult to know because like with rags saying the breaking of the fellowship That's what it's called in like the official soundtrack or the theatrical soundtrack But the extended edition is road goes ever on part one things that were Things that are Lighting of the beacons. Yeah again. Love that music so good and they have extended soundtracks now They came out a few years ago. So it's complete and they're huge Uh, I got them on vinyl and on ed but they have like colored harness their packaged like look They're so cool hard to find now and some things That have not yet come to pass Easier to access now that they're on streaming services. Well, yes. Yes, you can I mean physical copies physical copies Which are getting ironically harder to find The allen wake two is one of the first games. They're just gonna never have a physical release of that caliber Just like seriously. Yep. No physical No physical the allen wake two there's only digital versions of it really? Mm-hmm. That's bizarre I hate it. I actively hate it. You think that they'd be able to make money by saying like if you pay extra Because it's not going to be like normally like done But do you know like I assume you do but collectors editions of like big budget games often don't come with the game now My dead space collectors edition. I think it has a code for the game It has a it has a cd pack in it, but it doesn't have an actual cd in it This imagery incredibly important scouring of the shire, correct? At least a foreboding of the potential that we could either talk about now or later, but the choice to remove the scouring of the shire It was funny. I didn't I didn't love that whole section from the books either works in the book wouldn't work in the film But that's another one fans would have been like they fucked it up Like fucked it up and it's like calm down. It's like the bombadill thing. It's like it's weird that we met god in the woods That's kind of weird. We should probably just not have that in the movie. He will try to take the ring You know of whom I speak like the thing is is like I think tom bombadill is just straight up a plot hole in the book because because Like he literally just puts on the ring and he's fine and nothing happens and like they're just like Yeah, he just like kind of doesn't care and it's like that. Yeah One by one it will destroy them all I do like the fact that like you get to the the council of elrond And like they do bring him up because like that was my thought it's like, okay If this thing has no power over him then surely he could just go to more Is like the perfect ring bearer I will give you the one ring To me freely. He just doesn't fucking feel like it and it's like yeah He's really absent-minded and he would probably forget what he's doing halfway there and just like drop it or something In place of a dark lord, you would have a queen He's a higher being that might be a remnant of the song of creation or he was a lot like tree bird Tree bird, you know an old ancient being not dark but beautiful and terrible as it was And it shouldn't have been in the movie. Yeah I mean the end result speaks for itself This part stood out to me as a kid when I first watched it. I was like what the fuck is happening. He's terrifying People can try to pick it apart and like I sat behind somebody when I was watching it the first time I sat behind somebody who hated it Frickin hated it. He's like that sucked. I'm like what? I passed the test. Oh the reason the guy hated it because of the changes they made to the book That's the thing, right? It's like when it's this good as an adaptation All of the smaller things are gonna niggle at you and be like I will diminish and go into the west and remain Galadriel I have a controversial take in thinking that there's things that this movie just straight up did better than the book to bear a ring of power Is to be alone and if you do not find a way No one will because I think some of the parts of the book Uh, yeah aged poorly granted. They were kind of like products of their time because books were written really differently then Yeah, I get like the standards then or amir was done better in the movie I think aragorn was done better in the movie. I think aragorn is straight up kind of boring in the book Oh my god, are we entering hot takes that I've never even heard before? Yeah, it's like the books are great, but like they're not perfect. All right. Everyone needs to relax Even the smallest person can change the course of the future I mean the same thing can be said for the films, but they may as well be Yeah, it's like, you know Bormir's death was handled better in the movie I think um the breaking of the fellowship was also handled better in the movie Like the emotion with froto and sam at that end is so much more palpable in the film than it was in the book Where it just kind of felt like oh sam was an idiot and is drowning now Do you know how the orcs first came into being? Frodo's way more abrasive in the book. It's way more master and servant relationship at first So a lot of the characters like ferramir and aragorn seem like more relatable in the movies than they do in the book They were elves once taken by the dark powers Like aragorn in the book just straight up. He's like, yeah, I'm king get over it. Yeah, there's There's definitely less self-doubt in the book It's like a man on a mission Toastshed and mutilated Ruined and terrible for life There's one really funny scene in the two towers in the book where aragorn tells all the roherium like this sword Is super fucking cool. Don't touch it. And then he just kind of leaves it outside with them And I just imagine like all of them poking it as soon as he goes through the door Now affected It looks like he snapped that rukai's neck there like he makes a twist in his head around I do like though the the white hand of saruman just as a a branding. It's good. You can make merch woman. Do you serve saruman? Do not stop until they are pumped. I just remember the first time that we did a efat movies on these You do not know pain. You do not know fear You will taste man fish. And he talked about bring them alive and unspoiled. I think it was you mawler who was like You mean like just don't rape the hot Bring them to me alive and Saruman was like I didn't want to be explicit, but I need it said I know you pulled us from the ground and everything, but fucking hell. Oh my god Now we're thinking about it, sir. Lurt's fucking grimaces. Like he's like I wasn't thinking about that early when you said taste man flesh. What did you mean? As soon as they get out of eyes of god, they're like, I don't like that guy They get far and left away and one of them's like, we are gonna fuck the hobbits, right? Lurt's just like, oh, yeah I find it interesting that she's gifted uh legolas a bow. Do you think he'd be like, bitch? I have the best bow that I could get. Why do you think yours is going to be better than that? And for you samwise gamgee Elven rope the meme is basically when galadriel's talking about all the gift She's given them. She says they're all from the ice troll over and over again Carved from the horn of the ice troll that I defeated One small bite is enough to fill the stomach of a grown man. How many did you eat? Four. Now, do you know why these boats float? Oh Tell us I already thought me all about this because stones can't look up but boats can look down Boats are floaty because they look up at shiny sky. Do you think to rise above the height of all your fathers since the days of el endil So so imagine if aragorn gives that knife to rosy and she kills sauron at the end That would be better. Yeah, yeah, it'll be better. Blade of the assassin pregnant. Yeah Yeah, and she rides in on like a dragon that she made friends with point. Yeah None of the boys could beat the dragon But she convinces the dragon that he should do stuff or to fall into darkness With all that is left of your kin I think it would be important too if you could have aragorn slip on a banana peel during this scene somehow Yeah I know that rosy is his wife, but for some reason my mind like converted it to sam's daughter That was like, boy Oh my god, even better Aria having the knife Killing that was such a depressing night when I saw that episode. I watched it with wolf. It was horrible I had a whole like 16 hours to think about that episode before we watched it and just have it like sour more and more The death of game of thrones. I think my favorite reaction of yours was like what would quibern gets killed by the mount What We have lost our crushes his head. He just lost your minds It was so funny like a meeting timing was perfect That's it man What the fuck shot where his his face just slapped against the rock What the hell I love how that's just the end of his character Yeah, it's just like oh I remember the cope at the time was every guys. Do you not know frankenstein's story frankenstein kills dr frankenstein I was like, wait, what no, but that's not even what what does that have to do with anything? Farewell Frodo beckons I give you the light at any that was one of the things we've talked about with a lot of modern stuff Is that how do you parody it? What do you do with it? Make something good? I mean, I think kind of yeah It's this scene that always like stuck with me It was the combination of the isengard theme and also just the slo-mo Rikai like running through the forest It was years between me seeing this movie for the first time and then like seeing the full trilogy In the extended editions for years. I always remembered that one scene something about it. It's really fucking good I can't even remember what the theatrical versions are now You haven't eaten anything all day And you're not sleeping either Don't think I haven't noticed I've only watched the theatrical of fellowship And it was just like weird seeing it because it's like where's all the fucking scenes that are important to the story I'm here to help you I promised Gandalf that I would because of course there was a reason that theatrical cuts ended up being the way that they were But I mean now now that the extended exists and you can watch it You can't help me Sam Not this time Well, yeah, that's funny because like I bought the 4k physical release of the movies And it's like we got the theatrical editions in here too, and it's like well, I'm just Oh, I know You know that From there we can regroup. Well, this is kind of when everything starts to break apart like Gandalf's not there to keep them together So now they're like fraying at the edges. Yes. There is weakness There is frailty There is courage also and honor to be found in me. Yes Strike out for Mordor from a place of strength. There is no strength in gondola that can avail us Yeah, Barma is he's thinking about Yeah, he's thinking about you were quick enough to trust the elves You saw little faith in your own people All your life you have it in the shadows scared of who you are What you are no big important scene coming. Well, all of the big important scenes are coming I will not lead the ring with an hundred leagues of your city Yeah on us They put actors on canoes. What's the point? That's like a thing. It's so it's you think like well, of course they did Arguably the best part of the movie coming. Uh, maybe yeah, I know why you seek solitude You suffer. I see it day by day. There's a few that could be argued for for sure. No, I'm just saying I this scene is fantastic It's it might be I know what you would say and it would seem like wisdom But for the warning in my heart, there's literally not a second of this movie. No, there's one second of this movie It's it's that fucking elrond shot It's the only part of the movie that I don't like the other three and a half hours. I love warning Against what? We're all afraid Look, I'm just humbly gathering some firewood. That's all I'm doing to let that fear drive us to destroy what hope we have Don't you see this madness? I love how fucking natural this looks You wouldn't guess that this is forced perspective at all I ask only for the strength to defend my people if you would but let me the ring No standing in front of a giant broken statue head too. I mean just That's one of those things where it's like, what's that? You don't need to know what it is for anything to make sense It's just like here's a cool thing. Why do you recoil? I am no thief. You are not yourself Yeah, like this whole area is littered with like decaying statues and ruins and stuff It's all part of like the kingdom of gondor. I guess that's just shrunk over the years Yeah, it's great. It just gives you a little bit of world building Listen just lend me it I'll totally give it back, bro This is the thing from his POV this seems like the most right decision He's just a little hobbit. What's he like a little hobbit ain't gonna destroy the ring after everything that's happened It doesn't make any sense to let it just be given to a hobbit. He's like just fucking give it over idiot And uh, but he realizes a little detail of making the wood shake That paranoia as well So it gets you praising all your weaknesses and fears. You'll take the ring to sound out. You'll betray us You go to your death and the death of us all. Oh man. This is barmy is low point. He's gonna come out of it Uh, this is the dude when you get the context of who this man is like back in gondor I mean arguably his best scene is I mean if not here it'll be in the the extended in two towers I like the him getting emotional over that. It's not just like what he did to Frodo It's that like he knows what happens when everyone else finds out about what he did Yeah, it's just a weakness has been completely exposed. Probably take that ring off now, huh? What's funny is this structure then here in the return of the king game No, the two towers game the level starts here And if you go up the stairs is a really good xp boost at the top of it. Go grab that Frodo carries the fate of us all We must defend him Yeah, our girls like I'm not I'm chill. I Fucking I'm super nice. I said you have my sword. I swore to protect you Can you protect me from yourself? Yeah, it's this point onward for the entire rest of the movie that I think about Whenever I think about this movie, would you destroy it? Everything about it's fucking awesome All the things we pray so far, but also I'm on hand as a whole is uh his fellowship just comes up slightly above the other two for me I just I think what I like about it is that or what I prefer fellowship over the other two is I would have gone with you to the end It's so character focused not that character isn't a big part of the next two movies But I prefer all this stuff over any of the big siege battles that we get later on look after the others Especially Sam He will not understand this fight somehow is very personal Yeah, like the fact that he tells Frodo to run and he's like I'm willing to die just to hold them off That's like that's like his character and that's why I fucking love him. Yep Like I find this scene so much more emotionally impactful than the battle of the palinor fields or the siege at uh helms deep I wouldn't say so much more I love those It's pretty amazing. Look at this though. I'm speaking for me This shot, oh It's so cool Here we go Oh, it's why is my favorite character fucking love him In fact, he has to run away because he's like, oh, I'm gonna be fucked if I just stay out in the open like this Look at it. It's surrounded and then who comes in but not his two best buddies Oh god, I love the music for this battle. It's so amazing Frodo's 17th fall I should keep a fall counter when I edit this Gradual realization of what's going on here. Yeah, you know what we need is explicit dialogue from Frodo saying I'm not going with you I'm going to go somewhere. I'm going to take the ring to Mordor by myself That way we won't have trouble with people trying to take it off me Such lads. Oh, yeah This is where I mean barmy is here where there's like, they know they're leaving these guys to their deaths Barmy's sacrifice is built on another two different characters. It's choice to sacrifice. Yeah gives him his chance It's all about that team work Fuck them up lego ass It's just it's just awesome, isn't it? Oh, this is the shit you gotta help it absolutely thrive in emotionally. Here he comes Barmy get in there buddy. Yes. No hesitation just charges right in. Yeah, I'm marrying Pippa to fighting as well. Look at him That ass fucking throw I love this shot is so good Aragorn just fired that one day while Legolas is He's dealing with that one guy Like Legolas, can you shoot me give me a hand, bro? I'm having a lot of trouble here The horn of gondor The horn uh this one. Yeah drawing your allies to you but drawing the enemies to him as well Oh, this shot is brilliant. What a great panning shot Oh, it gives you a huge scope of the battlefield makes it feel completely alive Gives you a good logistic of where everyone is. Yep. I like how like not smooth it looks too like It doesn't feel all efficient. Yeah. Yeah, and it works so well. You're right One of the big problems I had with the hobbit movies is that like they would do shots kind of like that But they were too smooth and it felt fake That crane shot and a lot of these other shots feel more visceral and handheld Like these aren't like super graphic movies, but they don't feel sanitized like the hobbit does Yeah, oh the choice of violence always feels very very specific Uh-oh. Yeah, sorry people listen to this. We're just gonna enjoy the scene for now Yeah, we're just gonna be watching the movie it just sort of happens Yeah, such a like the music just stops for a moment. Yeah, and that's I don't know. This is just like this sense of this is it but doesn't mean you don't need to stop I mean to go out like this one day. I'm going to force jay to watch these movies with me And if he doesn't like it, I'm gonna put him in a saw trap This so the uh, I'm done but then sees them it's like No, fuck. I'm not done The endurance of a fucking human spirit. That's all this comes across to me He's not gonna stop until he absolutely can't go on The third arrow Which to me is the correct amount. You don't want it to get extreme like a thousand arrows We also want it to be more than one or two. Yeah, it's just too many And yeah, I love what um pippin has to say about this to denitor as well. It's recognized Uh, and it all goes back to the scenes with aragorn and you know council of elrond, right? Where he's talking about man's ability to defend Middle-earth for you know on behalf of all the other races man's strength and courage like that's something that's present That's something to preserve that man could defend the world from darkness, right? Like that like that's his insecurities as a person that he whether he's enough to be that protector And of course his last moments are that of failing as a protector to never know if mary and pippin are actually gonna be safe It's like a perfect microcosm of the Overall insecurities. He has a gondor in middle-earth, but borrow me it to these two. It's absolutely tragic, but uh, Bloody brilliant Based on that arrow like a champ as well. Yep This fucking fight is so raw. It is so wrong I mean, it's great because it doesn't have gone too long. It doesn't overstay as welcome here. It feels very real No, it's savage though, but the our theater like erupted in cheers when it's got beheaded The legendary deflection The sound of it as well. Yeah, he licks the knife Oh, this is totally champion versus demon of hell basically Oh Yeah Brilliant boss fight those are the girl in mawler's class who was scared by that. Fuck you They took the little ones Frodo where is Frodo the first thing he says the first thing he says they took the little ones Yeah, I tried to take the ring from forgive me I did not see because that's what he is at the core. He's a protector of people That's his whole role and that's where the insecurity stems from is not being able to fulfill that role Is that simultaneous like I would have loved to have seen what this story would have looked like if barmy had made it But also like it would have been very interesting because it would have been like very important Yeah But uh, there's something so important about him recognizing Aragorn's role as well Yeah, absolutely pitch perfect wouldn't change a thing This man who's been brought up under the shadow of a person who's desperate to prove that they like control You know like denithal's got a lot of insecurities that I think really help inform barmy's point of view Which is that they need to make sure they earn their right to be in essentially control of ministereth until you know The line of kings returns and so like they not only need to inspire they need to be strong Then you'd be courageous and you just show the rest of middle earth that they're the ones that can protect They're the ones that have been given this responsibility and that they can pull through with it And they do barmy being the one that we get told is is regularly like keeping oscilius Within the realm of men instead of allowing it to fold a mordor and then being sent to go and grab this weapon That's going to end it. It's going to destroy mordor forever and he's like that's kind of exciting That's kind of invigorating he gets there and all these people are like we're going to destroy it We're gonna had it to some fucking child basically and he's like what in the hell are you guys talking about and then you know Because he has respect for alrondon the nature of the elves and seven is like, okay, fine I'll go with you and I'll I'll ensure this to happen spends the whole time ensuring the safety of the fellowship But at the same time falling gradually to the temptation of the ring Which is something I always find is a really interesting variable for all the characters to have to deal with that Ring that fucking rings bringing him down all the time. And yeah, of course He breaks one of the little bits that I really Noticed on a recent wash through is when they arrive at um I forget the place where it's basically am on hand and they're all getting off the boats Everyone's basically fine and uh and the camera hangs on him for a little bit And he's just fucking like he can't handle it anymore He's constantly thinking about it and he's like shaking a bit looking down just like oh, okay Like it's it's all he's he's thinking about he talks about when we when we reach Galadriel right that she tells him don't worry like men will be fine gondol won't fall And he only says to everyone. I don't believe her it's not gonna happen Man is like doomed. We have to get the ring. It's the most important thing ever and his um His interest is desperation to get that thing. It just represents the fact that he wants to save the world He wants to protect people and he knows he's gonna fail without it And then he has his moment with Frodo, which uh is his obviously low point which brings you right into his highest point Which is uh sacrificing himself to save two people and those three arrows that that way that he goes down It's like one of the most heroic deaths in all of media always stuck with me and uh, yeah The everything he says to Aragorn. I love that Aragorn takes the moment to inspire him and tell him like It's gonna be okay like right before he dies He tells him everything he wants to hear which is that man will be saved that Aragorn won't let them fail and the uh Boromia did his job is the there's nothing to be ashamed of he did everything right sort of thing. It's uh Oh, he's great a lot happens in this film A lot does happen in this film I would fucking hope a lot happens in a three and a half hour on time Well, it's kind of a brought up a lot these days, right? Because um a lot of people resort to a run-time complaint with films that are of that length But we all know the truth of it would be pacing and like how much of it was actually like important The fucking how much of zack snaters justice league is even remotely relevant. No, I wish none of this had happened So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide I mostly have resentment toward him for wasting four and a half hours of my time He brought us as remiller. All you have to decide Is what to do with the time that is given to you. I feel bad. We should be acknowledging this scene is great too This incredible scene this fucking gem of cinema in front of our eyes Not alone Frodo This is Sam showing his zeal Sean Aston cut his foot. He's trying to swim over here Go back Sam I'm going to Mordor alone. He risked great infection for the sake of this movie's quality. Yes Infections are temporary good cinemas forever. Mm-hmm, and I'm coming with you. You can't swim Sam Sam oh Frodo, you don't understand the investment you've made here. He's gonna come through for you Time and time again It would be a really dick move to accuse him of eating all your food and then send him away Don't you leave him Samwise gemji? And I don't mean to They did not hang on that for very long, but super important detail The fellowship has failed But if we hold true to each other, I appreciate the fact that it doesn't treat us like we're stupid and oh god. Yeah, dude that We will not abandon marion pippen to torment and death That's another thing that's been taken for granted. I think is not being treated like a fucking baby in media I don't even associate that with lord of the rings, but you rewatched me like, oh, yeah, of course They treated me like an adult that is handsome I mean nowadays you have you know children writing So they you know think the audiences are children too an intelligent person writing maybe has a bit more confidence in their audience And yeah, I very much enjoy the motivation is full and fiery with them just for getting marion pippen We got to get them. We owe it to them. I don't suppose we'll ever see them again. We may yet mr. Frodo We may always a voice of hope Dory has got it splits. You need a sam in your life Like I think everyone does oh everyone should have a sam You need someone who brings a little box of salt just in case you