 Oh goodness gracious, we're back, we're live, global connections. Why do I say global connections is because we're going to talk about global connections today. Okay? And Elyse Anderson just came back from a trip where she crossed a lot of continents and we want to talk about that. Welcome back and you made it, you made it back. Nothing happened. Well, that's nothing that will be discussed on the set until it happens. So tell us about your trip, where did you go and why did you go? Well, I went to many places. I started in Hawaii, had two layovers on the mainland, which were actually unfortunately kind of eventful. I stopped for the first time in Edinburgh, Scotland for about a week. I started in Edinburgh, went to Copenhagen, then all over the place in Sweden. Then stopped in Elsinore also in Denmark. And then back from Sweden through France, Switzerland, a week in Portugal. A week on an African safari in Tanzania, then briefly in Qatar, Doha and Paris and back here now. And LA, I can't forget LA. Okay. Elsinore. Was Elsinore in Hamlet? Yeah. Exactly. That's the castle in Hamlet. I remember. Good job. Good job. What role did Elsinore play in Hamlet? Every role. It was the set. It was where Hamlet lived. It was where he was supposed to rule over. And yeah. Okay, this is going to be on the final exam. Write it down. You spell Elsinore. Well, that's interesting because it's called Elsinore in Hamlet, but actually it's called Helsingborg on the map. You could fool me. Okay. Why did you go on this trip? I think I'm wrong. I think Helsingborg is in Sweden. Helsing. Helsingore. Talking Denmark now. Yeah. But it's spelled with an H on the map. It's spelled with an E in Hamlet. I don't want to be wrong. Okay, okay. Helsingborg is Sweden. Write it down correctly. Okay. Why? Well, I've been traveling a lot for the last four years or so. So I've been going for about three or four months on average. This is actually a relatively short trip for me. And this is the first one I'm willing to actually call a trip. And I think that's important because I'm starting law school in about a month in Washington, D.C. And so for the next three plus years, I won't be able to travel at will. And this was really my last draw. And it was a lot shorter than usual. It was about a month and a half instead of three plus months. So it's a lot of places. So that counts as a grand tour before law school, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So it was a trip. I've been resistant to call any of my other trips trips. They're not trips. They were journeys. And I saw them as building towards life. And they were my life. I mean, I worked. I got jobs in places. I got certifications, degrees, got to know people who I'll keep in touch with forever, hopefully. But this was different. This was a trip. Because I was coming back to something. I don't think you can call something a trip if you're just going and you're not tripping away from anything else. You didn't go on a tour. There were no tour of people going together kind of thing. Well, the safari was a tour. So I was there with my stepmother and father and stepbrothers. Right. Okay. So why this itinerary? How did you, I really need to know why you selected this itinerary going Gither and Yann. Kind of all over the place while I was filling up gaps. And I probably should have brought my phone because I have a map on Google Maps and it has yellow dots in all the cities that I've been to. Right now I have 60 yellow dots in Europe. So I've been to 60 different cities in Europe. I'm quite proud of that. And there are certain gaps. Scandinavia was a big gap. Sort of the mid-south of France was a big gap. The center of Germany was a big gap. I'd never been to Scotland before. It started out I picked the places originally because I'm European by ancestry. Someone would punch me in the face for saying that but I consider myself Hawaiian and American. But before America, two, three hundred years ago my ancestors were in Europe. So they're about eight different European countries. And real chop suey. Yeah. So I wanted to see some of them. I'd seen about half of them. So far there's one that I haven't yet seen and that's the Netherlands. But part Scottish, part Danish, part Swedish had never been to any of those countries so I wanted to check them off the map. It's a gap trip. Yeah. Kind of. Find out where you haven't been and go there. After going to Edinburgh and Scandinavia and visiting some friends in Switzerland and going to France, I had an option to go to the Netherlands but I think there's a balance to strike between going places you haven't been and a new place versus going to a place that you love. And I love Lisbon. That's my favorite city in the world probably. Well, Honolulu is my favorite city in the world but Lisbon, number two. Oh, we need to talk about Lisbon. Yeah. There's none in this trip though. It was. It was a week there. Yeah, that was my last stop. And I went to Lisbon because even though I'd already been there, I liked it and I knew I'd like it. And I mean it just has a pulse. Word about Lisbon is authenticity. Okay, let's skip around for a minute and I'll ask you what comes to mind in my curiosity. We can always just glaze over my pictures in the last five minutes. Okay. But in the UK, they got Brexit and they got a certain amount of divisiveness going on as we do and they got racial issues there. What did you see and feel or was it all in another neighborhood? I didn't feel much in Edinburgh as far as divisiveness. There was one issue that I didn't appreciate and that was a street performer who was American but he kept trashing America throughout his performance. He's a really vulgar guy. He was red-haired. He looked like he was Scottish actually but he was just a very vulgar man and he had pulled together about 150 tourists to watch his performance which actually didn't really end in much. I think we were all standing there thinking what's going to happen. He got on a chair, jumped off. He tied himself up in chains and then got out of the chains and then he started insulting America as if that was amusing and I wasn't the only American who was offended by it. This other fellow who was maybe about my age started walking away and the performer had said, you know, whatever you do, just don't walk away and he was trying to beg for money too but then the friend of the guy who walked away chased after him and he said, well, Broda, you know, you did the one thing he said you weren't supposed to and he's like, well, listen to what he said about America and I reached out to this complete stranger and said, yeah, I agree with you. I don't believe that Americans in this day and age need to trash America. There are plenty of other people to do that. We don't need to contribute. Well, how did you feel the British folk of us in general? They like us, I think. Just last week we, you know, we took a hit a couple of days ago. We took a hit in our relations with Britain because of tweets and tables and the like. I wonder if you felt any decline in the, you know, historic closeness, close ties between the UK and the US. I mean, I was only in one city in the UK, Edinburgh, and it's a fairly touristy city, so I definitely didn't feel any kind of decline. I was last in the UK, I was in London in 2009 and I didn't feel any kind of a declining attitude towards the US. In fact, I was on a wonderful, wonderful tour of Edinburgh one night. It was an evening tour and it really got you to feel the grittiness of the history at that place and our tour guide especially picked on the Americans in a good way and not heckling us for being Americans, but he seemed to have like a special affinity for Americans and, yeah, he was picking out the Americans as volunteers and he seemed to really be welcoming this energy that we brought, but, yeah, and everyone I met there, I mean, I got to know a group of about 10 Swiss people, one of whom was an astronaut, really, really interesting people and they loved Americans, every, I didn't feel any kind of a antagonism really. It's summertime, everybody in Europe is traveling, you know, you meet all kinds of people. And I think in this day and age educated people understand that whatever a president says or whatever an administration does isn't reflective of the whole population, especially in our case. Yeah. Okay, so then you went to Scandinavia. Yeah. And I went to Copenhagen. Copenhagen, a wonderful, wonderful city. And so what was that like, aside from Hamlet? Well, Hamlet was actually part of my later, later travels through Sweden, but Copenhagen at least studied English literature at Princeton. So when I say Hamlet, it has a secondary meaning, yeah, very important. It's my favorite Shakespeare play, call me Trite, but it is, that was, that was overwhelming, but that's, that's part of the next segment. And actually being, going back into literature, my highlight of, and maybe we can show the picture of Scotland before we skip the last one. Oh yeah, let's go to the good picture. Okay, this is Scotland now. Okay, that's Scotland. Harry Potter tour. And Harry Potter is rampant throughout Edinburgh, and you can see the child in the, is putting on the sorting hat. And my wonderful tour guide, I can't remember her name offhand, but she was such a great person. I actually tried to find her on Facebook, I failed to find her, but really a wonderful person. And she had met JK Rowling a couple times and really just almost worshipped her. I mean, this is JK Rowling's where she was inspired to write the books. I was, I actually lived on Diagon Alley when I was in Edinburgh. So that, that sorting hat was a fun activity. And we learned all sorts of things about the history of Harry Potter, how it was written, why it was written, who it was founded around and based upon. And there's a school. Have you, have you read Harry Potter, Jay? I know. No, okay. Sorry, I'm too old for that. I'm guessing that enough of the viewers might have read Harry Potter too, so. There was a school right outside the Greyfriars Churchyard, the main graveyard in Edinburgh, which is just a wonderful place to go. So it's unbelievably peaceful. You can see why that's where JK Rowling hung out while she was composing Harry Potter. And there's a school outside it called George Harriet School. And I want to see what house Jay falls into. Because in Harry Potter, there are four houses. Each one's represented by a different color and each one has a different attitude. There's the sort of evil, self-indulgent house. There's the brave house. There's the intellectual house and then there's the nice house. So Jay, would you pick a name of these four names that I'm going to give you? The name of a house? I'm going to give you four name, words. I'm not going to tell you what the words are. But Greyfriar, Castle, Loriston, and Rayburn. Rayburn. Rayburn. Jay, you are a griffinder. Jay doesn't know what that is because he doesn't read Harry Potter and never has. But that's Harry Potter's house. So that's good. Everyone, see the funny thing is Harry Potter's house is called Gryffindor and so everyone picks Greyfriar thinking that they're going to be in that but instead they're in Hufflepuff, which is a stupid nice house. So you pick the brave house. Hufflepuff, that's going to be on the fence. So you know I love the way the Scottish people talk, the Scottish people talk. It must be a joy to hear the music of the language there. Did you learn how to do it? No. So they roll their Rs in an interesting way. One of the boyfriend of my host was originally from China but had lived in most of his life in Scotland so he had this really crazy accent that was kind of an American accent it sounded like to me. And I said, have you ever been in the US? He had never been to the US. I said, how do you have an American accent? Because it didn't quite sound Scottish but I guess the medley of Scottish and Chinese makes it sound somewhat American. I guess the Scottish kind of cut their sound short. The Chinese draw them out long so combined it sounds like an American accent but he had this rolling of the R and when he did that you could tell he wasn't an American by that rolling. You see the mermaid? That's in Copenhagen. So yeah, I have a picture of me with the mermaid but since we were confined to 10 pictures it got cut. Oh, too bad. I actually saw the mermaid in a lightning storm. Okay, okay. Want to see some more pictures here? Sure, yeah. So anyway, Jay got sorted into Gryffindor. That's my distant cousin in Copenhagen. So yeah, that's in Tivoli Gardens which is where I spent two days while in Copenhagen. That's very beautiful there isn't it? Yeah, it was the inspiration for Walt Disney or one of them but yeah, that's Nicky. Nicky was the adopted cousin of Debbie, my stepmother and he was a wonderful person. Debbie's actually never even met Nicky but we made the connection when I was in his hometown so that's my Danish cousin right there. So you were looking up connections while you were there, eh? Yeah, yeah. And that's why most of the pictures that I've included here have people in them. I figure if I say a town, if I tell you what Tivoli Gardens is, anyone can Google Tivoli Gardens but when I add Nicky into Tivoli Gardens then that makes it personal. People are good. Oh yeah. I had the impression looking at your pictures that you spent time with people as much as you could. You met people that were in Yan and you traveled with them and so forth. Well, I traveled by myself but I think meeting the people was what made the trip valuable you know. And that gave it a flavor, gave each of the places a flavor to understand why people go there, what they think of the place. You know I tend to travel in the springtime so well for these European trips. I'm there in June, July, May, idyllic times and I don't get a sense necessarily of what a place is like being there in the idyllic times because you know 75% of the time it's not idyllic, it's somewhat miserable. So getting to know the people and what they actually think it is. Sure, that's what the six with you. You write it down? What? Do you write it down? Do I write down what? Your experiences. Yeah, I have a journal. I have a journal. I mean sometimes I get a little bit lazy about it and you know I'll go for a couple of weeks without any entries. It didn't happen to bring it with you today. No, I didn't. I didn't purposely. Yeah, it wouldn't have been really great. One more picture and then we'll have a break. Okay, next picture, oh that's Gothenburg. So that's my friend, next to me is my friend Alessandro who is my tennis buddy here in Hawaii who now lives in Gothenburg. So he introduced me to all those other people in the pictures. The one in the red is an Italian student who just got her PhD in Gothenburg. So we were celebrating her departure. She's moving out of Australia. So and then there's a Canadian and an Italian and a Swede in the picture. So those were my new friends. What about diversity? Yeah, we had just gone bowling right before that picture was taken. Bowling of course. And that's in Sweden. Yeah, that's in Gothenburg, Sweden. We'll take a short break and I think we probably will come back to Sweden after this break. Okay. So that's all the pictures about Sweden and then ultimately we will go on a safari. We'll be right back here on Global Connections with Alisa Anderson. Aloha. My name is Wendy Lo and I want you to join me as we take our health back. On my show all we do is talk about things in everyday life in Hawaii or abroad. I have guests on board that will just talk about different aspects of health in every way. Whether it's medical health, nutritional health, diabetic health, you name it, we'll talk about it. Even financial health. We'll even have some of the Miss Hawaii's on board and all the different topics that I feel will make your health and your lifestyle a lot better. So come join me. I welcome you to take your health back. Mahalo. Aloha. I'm Winston Welch, host of Out and About. It's a show that we have every other Monday on Think Tech Live Here. We explore a variety of topics that are really interesting. We have organizations, events, and the people who fuel them in our city, state, country, and world. We've got some amazing guests on here like all the shows at Think Tech. So if you want to catch up on stuff tune into my show every other Monday and other shows here on Think Tech Live. It's a great place to learn about stuff, to be informed, and if you have some ideas come on my show. Let's talk about it. See you later. Aloha. Lisa Anderson, Footloose and Fancy Free all over the world. No kidding. Wow. At least Footloose. So you made plans to go what? Through the UK, through Edinburgh, and then then mark in Sweden. But after that you were Footloose and Fancy Free, FIT? Well I had a 10 day period where I left open. So I booked Edinburgh, I booked Copenhagen and Gothenburg, and then I left about 10 days and then I had to meet my family in Africa, my stepmother and father and her sons. So yeah, I had 10 days open and I actually intentionally left them open until about 24 hours before they came up because I wanted to see what my mood was at the time. Ah, mood, yes. That's the way to travel. I think so. Yeah, I think there's a combination of being, you know, knowing what's going on and being firm in your plans because otherwise you just, you know, it's too stressful if you don't know what you're doing at all. You have to have a general direction. Yeah, but to leave something open, to work with and play with. Adventure and all that. So adventure meant going from Sweden to Lisbon, which you mentioned is one of your favorite cities and it is one of my favorite cities too. I love Lisbon. I love the people, I love the architecture, I love the music, I love the parks. Music everywhere, yeah. It's real in a way. And unfortunately though the prices in Lisbon are pricing locals out right now. Prices, rents have tripled since I was there in 2016. Wow. I mean the same apartment that back then was $300 a month, now is $1000 a month and it used to be dirt cheap. Now it's not, I mean it's not like New York City now but it's certainly not, it's like New York City for Portuguese who used to expect something else. It's been discovered. Yeah, which is sad and very, very quickly. So it's still authentic but it's losing its edge, I think. So did you see anything special in Lisbon? I visited a bunch of friends, I met the people in Lisbon are just the best. I don't want to skip over everything before that though because I had a point to make about travel before Lisbon but yeah it was great and I knew I'd like it so that was the wild card that I threw in unplanned. I was still debating between Greece and Portugal but Greece I had never been to, I didn't know anyone there and by the end of the trip I'd been in new places and with strangers enough that I thought I want to go back to something familiar. That's another element. If you know somebody there that changes your affinity for the place. Let's go back to pictures and we'll catch up, what do we got here? So that was a castle, beautiful castle that's about to be open to visitors, a hotel-ish kind of castle but it's not a hotel yet. My friend Charlotte on the left owns the castle and then her friend Ellen who I knew from Hawaii whose brother still lives in Hawai'i Onus introduced me to Charlotte and you can see our wonderful venison dinner right there and there were peacocks walking around the pool. It was a gorgeous castle from the 12th century and yeah so I stayed there for one night we had a lightning storm, it was super exotic, really beautiful place and then I spent the night on the Greyhound bus. So castle to Greyhound bus, there you go. For anyone who's going to Sweden if you want to stay in a beautiful castle it's called Ortofta castle I might be butchering the pronunciation but that's her castle. Yeah, Charlotte's castle. I feel like you know judging from this conversation I feel I ought to change my friends around. I want all my friends to own castles, you know it never hurts to have friends around. You don't need them all to, only a couple, but she's a lovely person too, castle or no castle. All right. But yeah so I spent one night in the castle, it was beautiful, I was treated like royalty and then I spent the next night on the Greyhound bus and there was actually an immigrant, I was warned before I got on the Greyhound bus, I love the Greyhound bus but someone who doesn't told me that illegal immigrants like to travel on the Greyhound bus so I was kind of aware of you know is this person an illegal immigrant for the first time that day that I traveled on the Greyhound bus and there was a family of people that I suspect might have been and there was a girl sleeping under my seat so I went from sleeping. Under your seat. Yeah, I have a picture, I didn't put it on. That's the cheap seats. Very cheap, it was the floor. It was actually kind of half under my seat, half under the seat of the guy in front of me but yeah there was, so that was the night I went from the castle to the Greyhound bus sleeping multi-layered with you know. Where'd you go on the bus? I went from Lund, the castle is near Lund, I went from there to very long, all through Germany and Denmark, ended up in Strasbourg after that. So I went from Lund to Strasbourg, Alsace, yeah France and spent a couple days there and visited a friend in Switzerland and came back to Strasbourg but yeah it was a very, very long 24-hour bus ride and I saw parts of Germany including Frankfurt which I don't recommend at all, it was ugly and depressing. You liked Strasbourg? I did, it was beautiful, you know what, there's only so much you can do with a place that's just a place. I didn't know anyone in Strasbourg, aside from my host who was a delightful person and who gave me a bunch of melatonin pills which I'm still using so thank you to him. That helps you sleep. Yeah, but I didn't, I mean there was no human element in Strasbourg for me and it was pretty, you know I walked through the gardens, the two-lears Strasbourg gardens except you know. It's a good church there too isn't it? Yeah, yeah that was beautiful, that was, I mean it was second I'd say to the church in Barcelona so the Sagrada Familia, it was the only church I've seen that impressed me more than the one in Strasbourg. How'd you get from Strasbourg to Lisbon? I flew, so I took an overnight bus, well it's a little far so I took an overnight bus from Strasbourg to Charles de Gaulle in Paris and then flew from Charles de Gaulle to Lisbon. And actually the Greyhound bus, I mean not the Greyhound bus, the Flix bus is much, much more comfortable than an airplane so anyone who turns up their nose at the Flix bus doesn't know what they're talking about. FLIXBUS and it's bright green so you always can recognize it from far away. It has an app, you can cancel up to like an hour before the bus takes off. I'm sorry if I've been saying Greyhound bus, I do take the Greyhound when I'm in the US but in Europe the Flix bus. Okay, now after Lisbon and all that, I mean I love Lisbon too. Here let's quickly look at the pictures from, let's keep the pictures up. So that's my friend Ilaria and her two friends, this is in Lisbon, outside Lisbon, that's in Ariesera, Portugal. The wild angry ocean as she said, she's a surfer. So the next picture, those are some new friends, my and two of them from Russia, one of them from Morocco, the fellows from Morocco, the two are women are from Russia. Talking about diversity, my goodness gracious. Yeah and look at the tiles too, they're called Azulejos and that Muridoro, the lookout point and the garden around it was just stunning. It smelled like herbs. This bit has tons of tiles doesn't it? Yeah, it's just. That's a specialty. It really is, they even have a museum for tiles. So that was my favorite place to hang out. And they're Arabic tiles, they're from North Africa. Yeah, yeah, has a lot of that Moorish connection. But those Russian girls were just so outgoing. I actually only knew them for about 20 minutes before that picture was taken. We just got along the one in the middles, now my Facebook, Instagram buddy. And you know, that's the beauty of travels. You just meet people, simpatico people, even if they don't speak your language or you don't speak their language very well, and you keep in touch. That's the beauty of it. Any more of the case in Europe than it is in the U.S.? Absolutely. Although I think it's also the case for travelers. I think I'm more open-minded when it's not about the U.S. as it is about me and my mindset when I'm somewhere else. But especially in Europe where people have that mindset, lots of people have that same mindset you're talking about. For sure, because the countries are small. Yeah, and it's a self-selected group of people who are traveling in the first place. Hope you stay in touch with them. Yeah, well, so far we're in touch, yeah. Yeah, and then there was another group of Latvians. I would have included that picture too. I didn't show them your adoro though, but they were a delightful Latvian couple that I also met there and we had dinner together the next night. Lovely. What kind of food? Portuguese food. It's all good. Wine, lots of wine. Madeiros. Madeiro? Madeira. Madeira, yeah. Okay, what's your next picture there? Next picture? Oh, that's my friend Ricardo and Alex and a bunch of other people that I met Ricardo and I lived together in San Francisco about six years ago. So he's my roommate there and got to know his friends and he gave me wonderful tours around Lisbon and we were, and if you flip to the next picture. Speak English or Portuguese? Oh, they all speak English. They all, I don't speak any Portuguese. So that is what a typical Lisbon street looks like. That's not an event. That's just every single day in June, basically the streets look like that. And there's music, there's a concert. There, you know, all those colorful banners hanging through the streets. I mean, that, look at that sea of humanity. That's Lisbon for you. So that's where we went with that group that you just saw after dinner. And they're friendly. Yeah, yeah, very friendly. It's like Hawaii in many ways. Don't you think? I mean, so sure. It's like Hawaii, yeah, but with fewer restrictions and much older, much more history than Hawaii. Yeah, sure, of course. And it's also a much smaller country. It's more of a homogenous group of people, I think, who have more of a sense of identity than Hawaii. Hawaii has a lot of pockets. And for better or worse, the melting pot, as they say. Well, we saw a lot of Africans in Lisbon. We saw a lot of Chinese in Lisbon. They were opening businesses left and right. It was very dynamic. We were there like three years ago. Oh, wow. Yeah, that was right after I was there last. So let's go to Africa now. How'd you get from Lisbon to East Africa? I guess the safari was East Africa. East, yeah, Central East in Tanzania. So yeah, I had a one-week safari with my dad's stepmother, two stepbrothers who were twins. And one of them had just gotten engaged a few days earlier, so his fiance. Was it high luxury? Yeah, it was high luxury. It was we had these immense tents. And I mean, it was just very, very plush. Each of our mic, I had a big cabin to myself, which was maybe two or three of these studios put together, just for me. And it had running water, flush toilets, warm showers. The one thing was, I got very, very sick the last day. So anyone traveling to Africa, beware of the anti-malaria pills, they can make you very sick. And maybe food poisoning could have been an issue too. There were some sanitary conditions at the last camp. My dad, who's a health official, saw that the sewage tanks were open. So the flies could fly into the sewage, then fly to the kitchen. And that's possibly how we got sick. I got sick, and then the fiance of my stepbrother also got sick the same day, both there. And it was the day that we had to fly on a little airplane across Africa, or across Tanzania. This is a photographic safari, then took pictures? Yeah, yeah, many pictures. So maybe we can see some of the pictures. We had to clean up close-ups, so let's look at it. Yeah, so there's one picture. I was only allowed 10 pictures. I would have added more, but that was one picture of Cheetahs. Cheetahs. I took pictures of lions, of wildebeests, of all sorts of things. Libras, it was just really the circle of life. I even had a picture of a horde of vultures devouring a dead wildebeest, and you could really see all the details. You weren't at risk or anything? Of what? Oh, of being attacked by an animal. Well, there were animals prowling right outside my tent at night, so I could have been at risk if I had stepped out of the tent. The warriors come to get you with a bow and arrow. Kind of intense. How long were you in Africa on this safari? One week. OK, sounds just right. Yeah, it was right. I was ready to leave. I was ready to get back to the first world after that, for sure, especially because I had just been deathly sick the day before. That's your part. So OK, then you came back by way of the Middle East, but you didn't stop there. I did. I had a 50-minute connection that I missed, so you can see my Qatarat is what this water bottle's from. I got it from my hotel that they had to put me up in Doha for a day. That water bottle is from Qatar? This is from Qatar. Yep, from Doha, Qatar, Qatarat. OK, hold on to it. Maybe you should refill it. I have many times. This is not water from Qatar. It's one of those souvenir things. Exactly. But yeah, so I spent a day in Doha, which was so peaceful. I loved it, actually. I'm kind of really glad that I missed my connection. And the children were just so well-behaved in that airport. Everything worked perfectly. They actually let me take a full bottle of water through the security checkpoint. Yeah, I mean, half the people seemed to be covered in robes. And everyone was harmonious. And we talk about certain religions disparagingly, but they're very, very functional in what I've witnessed. And it's an affluent place, too. Yeah, so we stopped in Paris for four days after that. I went to Disneyland Paris, Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, all that junk, but. What a trip. OK, so we only have time for one more short question. That is this. How did this change you? What was the profound lesson that you learned on this trip? Hard question. Oh, there are so many. I think one thing is about niche. And I've been watching shows with animals. Every show about Africa is about a person who falls in love with an animal and then finds that they can't live with the animal, because the animal belongs in a different world. And that's what I took out of Africa, was that this is a gorgeous place, but it's not a place that I should be. You know, and that we all have our own niches. And even within the human civilization, there are certain places that I love but that I don't belong. And this Hawaii is where I belong. So that's what I probably would have gathered from it. Oh, at least that's really profound. Lisa Anderson, World Traveler here on Global Connect. Thank you so much. Thank you, Jay. Nice to see you back. Nice to be back.