 All right, we're back. It's still the breakfast on Plus TV Africa to our first major conversation. Of course, you might already have had the developments from the Court of Appeal, but this is not just the Court of Appeal. It is the Presidential Elections Petition Court situate at the Court of Appeal. Now, this Presidential Election Petition Court yesterday were waiting with bitter breath for the outcome of the application filed by the Independent National Electrical Commission. Well, the PEPC sitting at the Court of Appeal in Abuja yesterday gave the Independent National Electrical Commission the nod to reconfigure the bimodal voter accreditation system, BEVAS, which is used for the Presidential Election. The Court, in a unanimous decision by the three member panel of Justices, held that stopping the electoral body from reconfiguring the BEVAS would adversely affect Saturday's governorship and state assembly elections. Now, it dismissed objections that Labour Party and its Presidential Candidate, Peter Obi, raised against INX Move to reconfigure all the BEVAS devices. According to the Court, allowing the objections by Obi and his party would amount to tying the hands of INX, who is a respondent in this case. Nevertheless, we must also point out that the Court ordered INX to allow the applicants inspect and carry out a digital forensic examination of all electoral materials used in the conduct of elections as well as to avail them the certified true copies of results of the fiscal inspection of the BEVAS. It's an interesting development, not just in the injurious prudence, but in politics in Nigeria. It's just something that makes one excited to follow. We have joining us this morning to discuss this very all-important subject and issue a guest whom we're so happy to have, I'd like to say, a very good morning to Amur, okay, I'm just going to leave this out, so I'm sorry about that. I guess it's Amur Adoffin, who is a political analyst and he joins us from Lagos. I'm told that we have, we have had a change and glad I can see that up. Mr. Gene Mano-Ego, who's a member of the House of Representatives, representing Amur Adoffin Federal Constituency in Lagos, thank you very much. Apologize for that, a bit of a technical challenger, Mr. Ego, sincere apologies for that. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you, I'm honored to be with you, and the issue of the court case which could be a strategic case, I think, with the appeal court rejected, I think that the appeal court should have considered the legitimacy of the last election, because I'd like to myself clearly to help people that believe us will be used for the election, and I'd like themselves also to remind everybody that because they'll be used in the election and that they work well, they'll use it in the equity and work well, and they'll use it in the or choose it, it's also work well. So if they work well in three cities across a period of over six months, why would they not work well in food in a single state in this last election? So I think whatever it was, but I remember that they did it purposefully because for one city, they did it purposefully, they made sure the results were not of the third issue, the cyber students, people in the election. What was on was one man, a manual coalition, as they have always done. Also, you can see where people are disappointed. A lot of people have never voted before. Rather, they voted long ago at the press, less confidence in the voting system, and they mainly came out when they told us that this, their votes would count. And for one way or see, the votes did not count. So also the court of appeal should have been more comprehensive, should have been more understanding in their role in cities. They have ruled. And I think that those who have the opinion that the election was flawed, a lot of people seem to have lost confidence in the ability of the Supreme Court to give. Okay. Representative, sorry about that. I just did ask you the first question, but I know there's a bit of network lag. So in case you hear me interrupting you, it's because of that. And I apologize. We're told that House of Representatives are now to be known as representative. So I will have to just, I didn't call you representative when we started. I also apologize for that. There are two things here. I want you to tell me how you think this will play out. Of course, the presidential elections petition court is on one hand saying that, yes, INEC can go ahead and reconfigure the BEVAS if they need to do that, because not allowing them to do that will amount to tying INEC, the hands of INEC. But they're also saying that the applicants, the parties who have applied to inspect the BEVAS and other electrical materials, sensitive electrical materials can do so. So in your opinion, are they going to be allowed to do the inspection before the reconfiguration or since the presidential elections petition court has given them the norm to reconfigure? They will just go ahead and do their thing. I don't know how it's going to play out. They postpone the elections, of course, you know, but how do you think this will play out? Well, if they go ahead to go ahead and reconfigure, before the presidential track and it is if to look into the BEVAS to see what will happen, or that they will call it almost an abuse of power. They will say, oh, we have the power, we have decided to go ahead. Well, let INEC not forget that there are certainly people, the community that are selling this election. And we and the national assembly budgeted billions upon billions of dollars for each of the alphabets, we never cut it. We approve it for INEC so that they can do the job credited the way for them to not come out and say, oh, we have a country that will go ahead. But they are aware of the controversy following the election. If they have done the right thing, you know, nobody will be complaining. But they said they want to do all the manual system. This is where the complaints coming from. In great the old manual system, so much has been changed. We have been seeing things all over the social media and it was all physically. You see, it goes that have been that several times have been changed several times that the people who saw original, you know, just to get accepted figure. I think INEC should be ashamed of themselves. In this civilized country, the entire INEC, here at the top, who just reside and say, hey, well, we cannot continue. Please be surprised at a point I'm not pressing. That I think should have been the honorable way for INEC to go. But as it is, they are still thinking of continuing the deliverance, but it is bad. But just yesterday night, I had a cheerful news that election of the postpone for another one week. So, of course, it should not have happened if INEC had not done what it did. So we hope that with the postponement, INEC would consider once more the rights of those who voted to have the ability to look at the people, you know, so that their case, it comes, can be strong. All these people were having to do better. If INEC did not do what INEC had done in writing, nobody would be complaining. You would not even need one returning officer to begin to read the result of a local government or his seat or even at the federal level. Only a bit or two would be to log into the internet. And then you will see all the results. People don't need to go and gather to say what announced a regional result from the local government, from Susan Ward, from Susan State. What we have done now is to go back to the old system. So we ask. I'd like to bring you a question. What have you done with it? So that is my contribution. Now, Ogane, please let's look at some of the issues. We know that the court had granted INEC a request to reconfigure the beavers. That's what it is. But moving forward, fast forward, there are a lot of issues, other issues that you want to look at now. They have been given granted the permission to go ahead and reconfigure. They've also stated that there will be backing up data, as it were, to the back end of the saver. I'd like you to respond to that. Do you believe that INEC has what it takes? It is also within the electoral acts and the laws, Zulu, the lay down laws that they do this. So my question is, do you think that they can do that? Now secondly, some experts have said that INEC may have been forced to shift the polls because the process of reconfiguring the beavers takes real time. So again, I'll ask you, do you also believe in this accession? So two of them, Ogane? I think we probably seem to have like a net talk issue, connection issue, but as soon as we're able to re-establish a connection. Ogane, can you hear me? Yes, I had a question. So I mean, if you look at this, the court has actually gone ahead to grant INEC the privilege or opportunities to go ahead and reconfigure the beavers. And if you look at the postponement of the election, it's in connection with the fact that, hey, you can't reconfigure the beavers within a certain time. It was just how many days before the elections. But looking at the thoughts of experts, they're saying that INEC may have been forced to shift the polls because the process of reconfiguring the beavers takes real time. So do you think that that's the case, that the hands of the umpire has been forced? Well, if the hands of the umpire was forced, I want to say that they forced themselves as it is now. No, so experts are saying that they have. It's not what is. INEC has given the opposition that this is what it is. They need time to reconfigure. The essence of this postponement of the election by one week is that they're able to reconfigure the beavers. Following, you know, the permission that's been granted by the courts. And so experts are saying that beavers can be reconfigured real time. So now there's also another thought that's saying they have been forced to it. My question to you now is, do you think that this is, you know, away from all of the excuses that INEC has given and they are forced by an external force that we don't know or interest? However, it is. Well, maybe in the right technical issues, but first there, maybe they're not able to completely prevent configuration, which is that there's one way as they're asking for this, why would they do that? But as it is, uh, people are trying to cross IDEX, you know, because we came out in a credible manner, and everybody trusted him to be able to see which way he came in and how to vote. To those who have been voted before, who've found out for your count, who don't want to vote again, everybody trusted Professor Bob Wood and INEC. And so it came as a shock when people now land and the previous secretary beavers were not used. These results were not transmitted electronically, you know. So because of that, whatever INEC is doing now, people are taking on a piece of socks, you know. This is the technical issue that is disturbing them. And I'm still reading the large office. We'd like to come back, but let me open it. Good. Good. Okay. Can you hear me again? So if it's technical issues that, uh, the some INEC that's making them to ascend the period, all they are doing is a consideration of the active, uh, but what can I say? And there's not an INEC that anybody What I think, uh, we have to leave it at that, um, with some technical challenges there, um, representative Organa Immanuel Ego, we, sorry about that. Uh, we, we would have to go at this time. Uh, he's a member of the federal house of representative representing Amor and of a federal constituency. Um, rest is, uh, it's hard for me to know that part of Lagos. You have, um, a lot of people who are not really indigenous to Lagos. And it's, it's very possible to vote, you know, non-Europeans into, um, uh, federal, uh, elected positions. And I was going to ask him about that because of the conversation going on about, so the, you know, governorship candidates on the side, you know, I wish we had time to ask him. But if, if you also look at that, you know, this is one of the examples, you know, he himself holding a federal legislative position. It's, it's interesting to see. Um, you want to add something before we go? All right. I wish I had a chance to ask him. It's a real debate. You know, we know that, um, uh, Rolseyville's father, uh, Miss Olaole, a Rolseyville lawyer, had to come out yesterday to say my son is from Lagos. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, you know, the conversation has to, you know, the, uh, presidential candidate or the president-elect of, uh, uh, the all-progressive Congress himself, Ashwa Joe Bola. Of Nigeria. Of Nigeria. And then you want to ask, is he, uh, from Lagos? They also, no, no, no. No, I'm, I'm saying, if, if you bring that. That's another, that's another, that's another. So, that's another thing. Yeah, but anyway. I was saddening, Kofi, you asked if I was going to add, now I should add a bit. But I think that is saddening that we're having a conversation that someone will look at you and say, are you, you know, where are you from? You're from Kroslova, are you from where? How, how does that even make any difference? You know, the section, section, um, 177 is quite clear, you know, it's unambiguous as to the criteria to become governor of any state in Nigeria. So, but I want to take him, his thoughts, since he's a, he's, um, he's a case study, let's see. Anyway, we'll take a break, we'll come back. Short quotes, uh, amongst telecoms, companies in Nigeria will be aligned with what we hear. You know, what is up with that, what does that mean? Still with us to find out.