 I've been meeting with all your house chairman, I didn't get much enthusiasm either, they all against the cities, they all against the men's cellar said he passed her crime bill, that's all. Yes sir. I guess you saw the ticker today, they could be further hearing. By the way on that crime thing, they've been leaking that over there and I just told them to file a report with Ramsey, I'm damn tired of it, I think it's an insult to the presidency. Every day for some reporter to come in I pick this up and just let them have it with him and then we can look at it and if there's anything I want to recommend out of it I'll do it. But I never had a commission to treat me that way and they say it's the staff members and they just go in and out of there with the Washington Post and the script and the power and the Washington Star and the New York Times and it's just a, it's a thing. I have some strong feelings on that and I'd like to discuss them with you when you've got a minute because I think that on the wiretapping yes, I think that was absolutely disgraceful and I wish I knew who did it, I know who didn't do it but I wish I knew who did it and I don't know, it may have been some member of the staff. As far as I know, that's the only leak of those stories that appeared on that. I got pretty good information inside over there that they got a series of them, they just, they spend a little time, a couple of staff members talking to these correspondents and speculating with them and then saying they can't quote you but go ahead and you'll be right if you do this and so on. Anyway we'll talk about it, I think that these presidential task force and these presidential commissions, I think we can appoint them and let them report to the cabinet officer and let him take them and cool them off a little bit and then by the time they get to me, I can take what I want to of them and reject what I want to. But first I think you're free to do that. I think Mr. President that this report that they've come up with, which is they got no dissent from on any of that commission members and I think it's one of the most remarkable jobs in government that I have seen done and I think the staff that was collected there that did this work has done an absolutely distinguished job and I feel very strongly about it. I feel as strongly as you do the other way because I just pick up a New York time and I pick up the script sourced and I pick up the script sourced and there wasn't a leak in that story Mr. President and I can show you where every single thing he said and there came from and I can document that one and as far as the due date of the report is concerned, whether it would be on time, I'll take full response. Next some of our friends over in the department tell me that they'd like to give me a little investigation report on it. I told them not to, I don't want to be investigating my own people but some of them feel very strongly that this is what's going on and they're afraid to talk and say anything until we but anyway we'll settle that power you with Hoover. Now am I with Hoover? Yeah, what do we do there? Mr. President I think it would be disaster for him to testify. Well it's going to be disaster if we call him off and we're accused of letting him win. Well I don't think he wants to and if he goes down and testifies he'll say he's not opposed in the treaty and he'll repeat what he says in the month and then he'll go off for an hour and a half on every espionage case. By the time you get through with the headlines on that, the television cameras and everything, I think you just kiss that goodbye. I think if you could get Mr. Hoover to write a short letter, I think that would be fine. If not, I think Ramsey ought to write a letter. I'd clear it with Mr. Sweet and what it does. What should I do about getting Dirksen and then as Mike suggests you talk to him. Yes sir, I talked to Senator Mansfield and I think it's important he says the senator is better but since then there might be at least another two or three weeks before they report that. And under those circumstances I think it'd be a good idea to talk with Everett Dirksen and Dick Russell. I think it'd be a good idea to talk with them Friday before the space treaty and not try to talk with them in great detail about this. I think there's still going to be hearings. I think you can do a lot to... Will you give me a memo or talk from me? You'd be over here an ample time and you tell Marvin Watson find out what time the meeting is and we'll ask them to come with an hour ahead of time. All right. Or 30 minutes ahead of time. How long does it take? 45 minutes? No, I think 30 minutes that'd be fine. All right. Okay, I'll just do that. And you'll give me two hours to fight out this crime commission business with you. It's a damn thing to get adjourned and get out of here. Because every day I take up something new on it. What about... Well, I guess it's all right. Does Mansfield think then that this will... Do you think who wrote the testimony? I didn't talk with Mansfield on the Hoover testimony. I did talk with Fulbright. Fulbright was very worried about his testimony. But he thinks we can get some kind of a letter from him. That'll do. I had him with that out of the Ramsey. They all... Hickenlooper's not bad. He's sitting on the fence. One of the possibilities on this thing that might be some help is President Eisenhower. And he might... There's some people who are very close to him that think he should. And I didn't... But I didn't want to involve you or I said anything very high-level. You know, until you knew what his views were I didn't want you with him. I'd be all right with him. I'm sad about this guy. But it's going to be hard to bring him all the way down on anybody on this. I think that must be deep. That Americans want to do it this way. For its hauling, they said he hadn't made up his mind. He wouldn't know on this which way he'd go on it. He wouldn't talk with Mr. Hoover in three hours. Later he'd call back. I said he wouldn't. He wouldn't talk to Hoover. Of course. But if he just... If he's not against this, he would be against it. Russell thinks that we're going to hell up here. Tommy's an associate and everything else. Party in. We're kind of back in the Stoke even Carmichael's and Martin Luther King's and sick of them on them. Guidelines, punitive to them. The only way he can defend himself is to take the Republican appellation. That's what he's going to do. In 1954 we were away. Dick Russell and Bob Taff just looked at each other and went in the chamber and never said a word. They were having a dream and they were having a discussion. It was effectively a rarer than they had a speech. But they ran it on. And I busted that up by getting the woman George and finally Russell and finally a few of them to have him support me. He just pried his Democrat and just insisted they do it and told me I couldn't help them but they didn't. So I busted that up and went back to it now in the house and the Senate and we got Bobby and Rivercuff and Heart Kid and this crowd are hitting us every day from the incident. So a party just split wide open and I don't know what they or they think they can do. I don't think we got a chance to win if the constituency of all these programs against them. Rivercuff, I sent a bill up there, $5 billion on cities. They cut hell out of it. Husky said he couldn't go over to Ohio and the vote was five to four and to get his vote we told him all right, we'd go. We'd accept an adjustment to get Model City started. I stand through the Rivercuff. I said we need $750 billion a year and he gets it down. He got television. He gets it down. He got a five to six billion. I just met with the chairman and that's the first time they're going to take out $400 billion I got in. I've got in all of Congress would authorize. They authorized $400 million last year for this year. That's the maximum I got in all my budget but I'm going to lose every damn dime of it because of the way they do it. Same thing with poverty. I'm going to lose my poverty. I can't, they count 180 votes for it but we had the budget last year, $7.50 billion got over there. They put in $2.50 billion. So Dirksen got up today on television and said we cut it back from $2.50 billion to $1.75 billion. We cut it $750. He didn't cut the budget a damn cent. He just cut what Bobby and Morris and Clark and he's wild and put in there. And then when he got back over to the house they just frankly told me, we're going to penalize them, charge them a little interest, a little prepayment, $150 million for trying to run over us. So they took $150 million out and we got $1.6 billion. And they just won't follow the leader. There won't be any coordination. They just go in opposite direction. I thought you were going to get them all together and kind of give us some direction. But if we can't get along among ourselves, I don't see how anybody's going to be elected. If we can't be elected, that's where I don't see it. And I think that's the main problem that we got to have. I had the senators all down here and we briefed them. We got by pretty good. Teddy was there. Bobby never accepts. He won't show up. Teddy was there and asked good questions. Smiling was a good yomer. Was reasonable. We didn't have any real mean questions. Russ was never better. McNamara was never better than last night or night before. But we got this little pot shot. We got it from Bobby and we got it from River Cove. We got mostly candidates for office. Now they're going to want me to support them. You can't get so low in this country with what you come back in. If you've seen the new Gallup, I mean the new Harris, it just reverses from God. It murdered Bobby and Jackie Bull. It just murders them on this thing. And these damn lies and their nexious things I never heard of. It was just the most awful thing that I ever heard of. My insisting that Kennedy put up a deer head and forced that bull man to go on. Hell, he not only killed one deer, he's insisted on killing the second one and took two hours. And then by God, he insisted on killing one of Torby O'Donnell and we just worked so hard. It took three hours and I finally gave up and said, Mr. President, we just can't do it. I didn't force him to come to Texas. Hell, he wanted to come out there himself, called up and he came. I mean, it's Kennedy and he may have told her. But he didn't want to come because he brought some other people. But it's a hell of a note to go with it. I'm not going to say a word. I'm just going to keep my counsel and try to endure it. But it's a vicious, mean, dirty, low-down stuff about all this damn business. One place they say I swam and had a vapor and halo and wouldn't take any leadership. They say I was arrogant, I was bossing everything in and the thought that I would go to a plane that didn't have the bag, it didn't have the communication, that I got after this terrible thing happened is inconceivable to me. But that's a picture. Well, you...