 When did you meet Bea, Bode, and when did he acquire the Appalachia from you to work? He and I had been, you know, chatting and exchanging seeds on, I think it might have originally been ICMAG, but probably 06-ish, you know, he'd send me a few things he made, I'd send him a few things I made, when I did the Trace Dog Crosses, I believe I sent all of them to him just for him to check out, and I didn't even know he'd popped any until he hit me up asking if it was okay if he released some seeds that he had made with the Appalachia. He made some really cool stuff and I mean people are still popping it, people are still passing out cuts from those seeds. It was definitely a very comprehensive job he did of crossing it to everything relevant at that time.