 It is through the interaction with our neighbors that we grow in virtue. Maybe unsurprisingly, the father first gives the example to Catherine of how we grow in patience through our interactions with another. It is true that we could think of ourselves as patient when we have no affliction, when we don't have to endure the difficulties of life with others. But as soon as we are in an interaction with others, we see how the tensions, the misunderstandings around us are really an opportunity for our virtue to be tested and for it to grow.