 So for those that are joining, hey, this is the Microsoft Community Office Hours, and we sometimes randomly appear in your live feed here on Facebook, or the Book of Faces. Book of Faces, that's the formal name. It's fancier that way, it's more refined if we refer to as Book of Faces. But at 8 AM and 6 PM every Monday, answering questions that are posted to the Office 365 Community page on Facebook and elsewhere, there's the Teams page that pulled some as well. Hey, Neil, since you've been gone, we now have an email and I need to add you to the DL. That's what you wanted, Neil. Yeah, I really want that. More email. Well, it's a rule. But if you have a question you want to post it to the group, you can reach us at officehoursatcollabtop.com, and we might have some other people joining this morning. So a couple other MVPs that said that they want to jump into this. I know that we have Rodrigo and Susan and Renee that are watching the live stream. So hello, and a handful of others. We're live streaming in two locations now. So feel free, ask questions if you've got questions. But anything else going on? Anything come up? Big question from last week, I guess not. I don't know, you're super choppy for me. Yeah, everything just went, up, up, up, up. Yeah, I'm going to close down some things, hang on. Yeah, so talk amongst yourselves. I asked you not to use your dial-up motive for this. Yeah, yeah. Close down other, no, not long one. I'm closing my 1,400 open edge tabs. I'll close them all down. Yeah. Take it. Yes, it's not your fault, Neil. Though this is the first time we've had this happen, and it's the first time I've seen your face on here, so there may be some. Eric, that's so rude. It hurts because it's true. Yeah. Yeah, true thoughts. All right, closing everything down. I've got too many GitHub tabs open as well. Yeah, so gentlemen, any questions that have come up that are kind of top of mind that you'd like to discuss? I'm not caught up on everything yet, so I've got like 400 emails to go through. I'm sure there'll be a question in there somewhere. Just not ready for that. Well, I've got a list of questions. While we're waiting, if anything comes in, I'm kind of monitoring. Here, did that not paste? What is going on? Hang on. Total system failure. Somebody has the list of questions that went to the DL. What's the first question on that? That's what I tried to open in for some reason. It says, it's a question from Robert. It says, why is Christian Buckley so darn handsome? You got the wrong list, Chris. Sorry, I'm sorry. He said that to me. Christian said that in a relate last night. That's Christian. He's holding some questions. But hey, this is a question. It was t-shirt designs? So I've got the, as you can probably see. Now, Shawn just stood up and you disappeared when you stood up. The AI, because it was a together mode. New t-shirts, yeah. Yeah. So I've got, of course, the classic, just the Stark. I don't think you see the logo on the map. Oh, shit. Sporting. And everything just hung up again. Yeah, and now it's back. It's just going back. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I just shut down Exchange, too. So. You shut down Exchange? Doesn't look like you're shutting down the internet. Can you do that? Who gave him that power? Well, Eric started on this. Let's jump to that first question. So Danny asked, hi, everyone. Quick question, is there a way to give someone delegated permissions to a user's calendar with viewing description and details, but without access to attachments? That's odd. I don't think so. Wow. So when you say view detail, and what was the other thing, view detail? So with my description, description and details, so you can see the email get access. But in the calendar, you can see the items, but not attachments to calendar items. Yeah, he basically wants access to everything except the attachments, which you cannot do. No. That's a little too granular. The only way that you could do that is if you had document level permissions on those items. So if you were so concerned about people having access to the calendar view and you just want to see the description, then lock down the document that you attach. That's the only way you can go. The document would appear if it was there. By attaching it to the calendar. By attaching it to the calendar. It's going to end up broadening that permission set once you attach it. So you could attach a link to a document and then control it that way. Or don't attach the document at all. Include that separately or share it separately. That's probably the easiest option. Share a link to that private channel or to that list or that, yeah. It's going to require a user behavior change. Yeah. Yeah. Problem solved, user replaced. That's right. All right. I don't know how you pronounce that name. Ove? Ove? Do any of you have experience setting up encryption using a private key for Microsoft 365? Yes. All right, the next question. Next question, thank you. We'll be here all the way, folks. Shouldn't have to. I mean, that's the benefit of using Microsoft 365 versus something like PGP. You don't have to manage your keys. Or am I simplifying it too much here? You don't have to. Some customers want to. Oh, OK. We do have the content to bring your own key and the content to the lockbox. So that's an option. But if you need it, I would say, even though, OK, I work for Microsoft, put a Microsoft hat on, do you need it? Does it make you more secure? No, because our own service engineers and teams don't have access to the keys anyway. It's not like there's a bunch of keys somewhere that we can leverage and access customer data. We just don't have that. That's not an option. So my takeaway from that is Neil can help them. Send the email to Neil. Ring me, reach out, reach out. Don't call me. Ping me, drop me an email. Oh, once I got on the DL, I'll be able to answer. I'm going to be out there, Riz. Nice value out there. I tried to hit mute. It just didn't have. I didn't have enough time. I'm sorry. I apologize. That's a lie. Riz has never a value out there. Oh, Neil, you're talking about hurting feelings earlier. Was that? And like I said earlier, it hurts because it's true. That's right. To serve your members, Sean, life lesson. Value out is different to everybody. Understood. You can tell who has the psychologist for a wife. Deep. It's deep. All right, Angelina asked a question in need of some ideas. Got lots of those. Oh, we're the idea, guys. We are returning in person at the start of the school year, but know that we may have to return to remote instruction or a hybrid model if things change. It's really interesting. By the way, just kind of a sidebar. I've got an elementary school outside the street, just right across the back street of our garage, so behind our house. Sex it, right? They allow you to live that way. You couldn't get in there. Teen it up right there. I'm not surprised by that one. No, but it's interesting. There are laws against that in the non-Saharan area. So brand new school. So we know, obviously, the expanded neighborhood that's here, we know a lot of people around here. So watching the conversations in the neighborhood Facebook group about what's happening in school, and they're doing an abbreviated coming back online as well, which is interesting. My thought, no matter where you stand on the issue of kids starting back up in school, the idea of the hybrid model for any working parent just sucks. So I know it just sucks across the board. But doing all in or partial, it's just a hot mess. I don't know if you guys are dealing with that, where you live, the hybrid stuff. Yeah, the school system here, they've given kids and families the option of going entirely virtual or some sort of hybrid staged approach according to what the governor of Ohio sets out as acceptable. And that's going to involve going back a certain number of days during the week. I think they're going to keep the individual cohorts together so as to minimize external exposures. So yeah, it's going to be difficult. But I understand the need for socialization. And my kids actually want to do it. We gave them the option. And they're like, they want to see some of their friends. Yeah. Yeah, the schools here are going back. They'll be back in a few weeks' time, actually. But they're going to do it small. They're going to do one class at a time. And then we're all kind of rolling. See how it works out. And that makes them. Unfortunately, anticipate a big increase in infections, which is unfortunate. Hopefully that doesn't happen. But I think a lot of it in terms of going back to school is very much dependent on what fits in with the parents' lifestyle as well. If your company insists you have to be back in the office, then that hybrid model is not going to work for you anymore. It should be tough. That's the difficult aspect of that. Well, the rest of her question, so she's talking about the hybrid model, in anticipation of this, we're asking all teachers to begin using Microsoft Teams on day one, not for all instruction. But to start using it. So if we do move to remote learning, teachers and students will feel comfortable. Does anyone have any suggestions of activities or ways that virtual learning can be incorporated into in-person learning? So I know it's kind of a big question out there, but I don't know if you guys have any specific. I'd like to ask the rest of the people on this call, although the four of you, when you say virtual to in-person, what does that mean? What does that mean to you? Well, as far as... Incorporate virtual to in-person. So at the very least, I expect that, much like we're doing here, it's set up some sort of experience where the folks online can interact with the kids in the class, at the very least. Yeah, that's gonna be the most difficult. So I'm interested, I don't know if you guys heard that about the, I think it's all announced. I think I can talk about it. Hang on, let me just, let me make sure I can talk about it really quick. Hold on. Shall we play some music while you check whether or not you're about to breach your NDA? No, it's not. Big Hal's got Jeopardy going for it. It's a friendly, not an NDA, it's not a Microsoft thing. I just wanna make sure that it's... Okay, no, it is... I was about to ask if we're gonna be guilty by... Okay. So it's the North American Collaboration Summit. You know, Rackley is just announced that it's gonna be moving to hybrid. So it's kind of a similar, you know, set question here. So here you have an event which typically, I don't know what kind of numbers he pulls in, four or 500 people to that event in person. They're obviously, they've pushed back the date from earlier in the year to the fall. And there's a lot of money that's on the line. A lot of people that have paid for this event, it's a big multi-day event. And so they're moving to a hybrid model. And there's a lot of people that paid for tickets, obviously, that get access to it. This is not a SharePoint Saturday free event. Anybody can go into it. So they're a hybrid model. These are paid attendees, but their companies are not allowing them to travel or they're concerned about traveling. So they're not going. And so Mark and team, and I'm getting involved to help out, we're putting on this hybrid event now. And so it's kind of the same question of, how do you have people that are 100% virtual and have some kind of interaction with the in-person? And one of the things that we're doing, so obviously, we've talked about and we actually have every Monday, we're gonna have planning calls. So I got one later today. We've talked specifically about this, about having, you know, you have these online events that have these community areas. So you have the tracks, the multiple tracks that are going on, which is on everybody understands, but then have this community space that's open that anybody can jump into. One of the things that we're talking about doing is, for the live sessions for those rooms, so we're gonna have a live meeting, or not the live meetings, those would be keynotes. We're gonna be using regular teams meetings for all of the sessions across five or six tracks. And we're gonna have the same, so one room will have a track that runs the whole day. And so people will come in and join those conversations. So what we're talking about doing is asking people rather than raising their hand to ask a question, to ask it through teams. There will be some people that won't have a laptop and they can ask their question, we'll try to capture those things. But that's one way that we can have the interaction between the virtual and the in-person. And so that would be kind of my first response, our suggestion is for the people that are live there in the room, you have to be a bit more sensitive to the fact that there could be a slight delay or people that are online may miss part of the crosstalk that happens. I'll have to pay attention to a screen. Right. And so you have to make an effort to like one in-person question, one online question and kind of encourage that interaction. It's kind of a community management activity that has to happen for that to work. I'm glad he's gonna do that. I mean, I'll probably go down because I'm not gonna fly I drive. And I know we've talked about this before, the density of people there is such that I'm really not too worried about it. Even if they hit 500 people there, I wouldn't be worried. That's a massive fit. That's like, you could easily space them out six feet apart in that convention center and never hit wall to wall. But yeah, that'll be cool. It'll be very interesting to give a session and then be watching the screen at the same time you're watching the audience and seeing what ways I can integrate them. Yeah. I know I'm planning on going up with Don Kirkham and Eric Schupps and I, we were talking just this weekend about road tripping up to Branson. Oh, nice. So I think it'll be my first time there. So Mark asks me every year and I will say, yeah, let's do it. And then I can't do it. So I think we'll be up there this time, for sure. I am also thinking about road tripping it. It's only 19 hours. Oh, wow. Geez. You're a professional. It's about eight hours. So I like road trips. And I've not done that stretch. I've been all the way to Texas and back. Of course, when I lived in Seattle, drove all the way to Portland, Maine, down to New York and DC, all the way back out around the Great Lakes and Minneapolis and Chicago and back out. But I've not done just the Southern U.S. And I'm interested in doing that. However, I don't want to do it alone. So I'm trying to talk one of my kids into skipping school and work. There's a tough one. There's somebody in the community there who's interested in going that you would tolerate a road trip with? Possibly. One, two people leave, one comes back. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of mileage to dump a body. I know. I'm just saying, what are the new dates for the columnsummit? I'm actually talking to Matt right now on Facebook Messenger. Yeah, September 28th through 30th. So Mondays are the workshops. I don't know how many workshops. Usually there's like six to 12, something like that. I'm not sure how many are going on. But the workshops will also, again, be going on. And I'll just repeat, these are not free, open to everyone. These are paid. So if you're interested in participating, you can buy a ticket and participate in this content and this event. You get the workshops is a little more expensive. But they're being retooled for some of the audience being online and some there in person. And then two days of sessions, and as I said, five or six tracks that are going on. And as paid attendees, you'll have access to any recorded content. But access to jump around in between all those sessions and get access to the community. So I think we'll start fleshing that out and start talking about it over the next week or two. But I just wanted to make sure that that announcement was actually live. And there's a Blinky Flashy ad on Rackley's Facebook page. So it's live. It's out there. He's a Blinky Flashy guy. He is. I think I usually get, Neil, if you haven't seen this, I usually get grilled for going backwards and addressing questions that were asked five minutes ago when we're no longer on that subject. But in this case, because there was so much confusion around what you just jumped right into from the question to can I say this to the conference? And then there was all this discussion about road trips and such. I'm going back because this is actually a very important comment we made, which is, on the teacher's side of things, is something wrong with your fingers? Yeah. Are you OK? Oh, I'm sorry. Wind the bobbin up. Sorry, but I thought you were having some sort of pain that you wanted to discuss at your age with the arthritis and such. Anyway, the point was we, as speakers in the community, all know how to handle an audience. And teachers know how to handle an audience when they're in front of them. But they don't necessarily know how to do the same thing when they've got 10 on a screen and 10 in front of them. And one of the best recommendations that can be made is just sort of over-communicate. So tell them, we're going to have three questions in the classroom. Then we're going to have three questions from these kids online. Whatever needs to happen over the next 10, 15, 20 minutes, just set the parameters up. Obviously, the ages are going to be dependent on their ability to follow the bouncing ball and go back and forth. But the more communication happens, and the more people understand where you're going to go with your questions and your lesson planning, the better off the experience is going to be for everybody. If you're sort of all over the place and you don't know if you're going to ask somebody in the classroom or online or whatever, people are going to lose interest. And it's going to be a mess. I like that. I also like the, especially if we're talking about education, structuring. Remember not to say, OK, for the next hour, we're going to be talking about, especially with children, the obvious that that does not work. It has to be broken up into chunks of here we're trying to disseminate information, here we're going to have an activity, here's just kind of a fun, open time. Then we go back and here's the instruction activity free time. And so I know that there are events. Think about Ignite coming up. Inspire that we just had where they're reducing things to 15 to 30 minute segments of content. So it's more of a TED Talk type approach. That is just a question of again, how are you filling that time? How are you structuring that? Yeah, I think there's other tools as well. I know if you look at teams, for example, if you're asking questions in the class, there's a teacher asking questions, who's going to answer, who's going to respond. There's the polyad in, they'll actually do the thing. There's the hands up thing. I don't know, and I'm going to mention a third party products here, but I don't know if any of you use Kahoot, if you've seen that as an application. It's available on your phone, it's available on your laptop. We use that for family quizzes, like just answering questions, Q&A, all that kind of thing. I think it's having that additional level of... Tell us about these family quizzes, Neil. And if somebody does poorly on those quizzes, what happens? Well, if you win... Clearly they get voted off the island. They get held back at your... Definitely. Yeah, but it's cool. It means that you're not... So we started doing family quizzes when all this lockdown happened, and obviously most of my, almost all of my family is obviously based over in the UK. Some in Australia, various places around the world. So what we did was we simply just created this thing, and it's like, okay, someone's gonna host a quiz. So someone would ask a question and you would hold up to your camera like an A, B, C, or D as your answer, right? And it was clunky and it was messy and it meant that the cameras were constantly interactive. But if you use another application, like I'm saying there's probably a plethora of these similar applications, but I like that one. It gives you an option to say you ask the question. So you've got direct video, I'm asking the question, and you go to it, you just click it on your phone. Click A, B, C, D. And then it tops all the scores up and it's all, it gives you a report at the end. So is there a forfeit for coming last? No, you just deemed the stupidest person in the family for that week. Is there a forfeit for coming first? Yes, there is. You have to host the quiz the next time. So it's fun though, it really is. I think that's a great idea. I was just, I wrote some. So we do a family Zoom every Sunday and so I just had to do the little talk portion of it last night. And it's great, we've got family across four states and it kind of, so it's with my kids primarily and my wife and I and my in-laws and a couple sister-in-laws that join in. But that's a fun idea is to do a quiz. I was just, I wrote down that put together a family quiz about grandma and grandpa history, so my in-laws and then have everybody respond to it and then go through each question, have them answer and then show the results of how people answered. It would be pretty funny. Could be pretty funny. That's one of the questions. How embarrassing are constructions? Yeah. Is there a sense? All right, so I've got, and not to confuse everybody, this is somebody named Neil, not this Neil. As far as I know. I just want to- Is someone that knows what they're talking about? Yeah. As opposed to me. So it's, hey guys, this is kind of a softball question for the team here, but hey guys, I've just recorded an interview with someone on Teams. Is there a way to share the video publicly because when I send the link, it asks the other user to log in to Office 365. You can download it from stream and upload it to somewhere that's public. Dropbox. Most people I know would YouTube it. Yeah. Yeah, I know it's been a big request. We've talked about in the past that just a reminder that Teams or Stream specifically is not supposed to be a replacement for YouTube. YouTube has its purposes. Microsoft focuses on the enterprise and Stream is the primary use cases or enterprise use cases. So you want to have that stronger, you want to have the analytics around it. You want to have the stronger permissions and management capability of that. So yeah, as Neil said, as Neil says to Neil. Neil to Neil. Download it, upload it to a public platform. Stick it on a OneDrive, stick it on YouTube or Vimeo. Favorite choice of video streaming platform? Facebook even, whatever. Yeah, yep. Good point there. All right, Lavente asked question. Dear members, I'm looking for a PowerShell solution to download all the recipients from Office 365 who we have sent emails in the past year. My boss wants to save all email addresses who'd company contacted previously and keep it as an official offline backup. Is there any solution to list all the sent email recipients into a CSV? First answer, yes. Yes. Second answer is where are they stored? Third comment is that's a GDP on nightmare right there. Yep. We'll assume our friend is navigating the legal waters as they deem necessary and appropriate. But just to answer the question, it's gonna depend on where those addresses are stored. Are they in an, is it a group? Is it a distribution list? I mean, where are they? So that's the first question. Then it just becomes writing the PowerShell to interact and get those down and export as a CSV. I'm making an assumption that it's either a DL in Exchange or it's just a simple list of people we send email to. If it's a list of people we send email to, what was the subject, how to identify those individual emails. Could be a sure point. Is it close or is it, could be anything? Yeah. Well, there's no, I mean, going in as an admin into Exchange Online and having access to, I mean, you don't have access to everything that everybody sent out via Exchange. Unless they're a defined contact. Right. Business level, you're not gonna have access. So otherwise you'd have to, are you talking about, does this have to be done on a user-by-user basis? Or, I mean, obviously you can go in, as you said, anything that's public, if there's a DL, or if there's just a group that admins a member of that would have access to all of that. Otherwise it would have to be individual-driven to be able to capture who's talked to whom. So email. It sounds to me like it's a marketing thing, perhaps, a marketing reason. And therefore there may be two or three people and two or three individuals in the organization that have sent all these emails out, which would make it a little easier, but then they have to run the PowerShell script under their own context to access their own emails. So Christian, this would probably be a good time to mention the distribution list for us. If there's follow-up information that somebody can provide, we can specifically address that. Yeah, you can email us at officehoursatcollabtalk.com and we can respond. I should go in and comment on this person's post to ask the question, because I think there's two ways of looking at that. There's one that's looking at all of the emails that have gone out officially from the company. I think, Neil, that's kind of what you were referring to. And I read it based on your language here. Again, I may be misinterpreting the question, but it's like, let's say we have 100 employees. Marketing has been sending out emails, but are you also trying to collect anything like every individual of those 100 individuals who they've contacted? There is no way to go and capture that automatically from that one place. You're talking from the admin standpoint, yes, you can go and capture that. I've done that when I've switched CRM platforms and I have to download from one location. I just update and scrub my list in the new CRM application or the marketing automation application, but I can't then go to each of my employees and say, provide me with a list of everybody that you've emailed from your account here. Yeah, I write these sort of scripts all the time. So it's really, there's a generic solution to it. It depends on the user's context and what they've got access to, but if the list is stored out there in a single place or even across multiple places that somebody has access to, it's easy enough to iterate through those enumeratum and get the information for export. Yeah, and even think of it from any discovery perspective. You could usually discover in Office 365 to find out all those emails that have a particular context, subject line, whatever it might be. So you can pull that, download it. You might have to then upload it into Excel and filter on it, but easy. That's not difficult at all. I wouldn't have thought of that. That's a good idea. Hey, by the way, I've got some comments here from our good friend for the David Wilhelm with SharePoint Fest. Hey, David, how's it going? When's the next SharePoint Fest? It's usually in September. December. Yeah, go ahead. Seattle is October 5th through 9th. And then it's Austin in December? Is that correct? Yes, yeah. All right, so. Austin, when is it in December? The week before Christmas. Oh, cool, I'm gonna be there. That's like a five-hour drive from home. That's easy. Lesson, not even. So David has three comments. Number one, does Riz know how handsome he is? Hi, buddy. David's stopping. Yes, he tells us, David, he tells us all the time. So we're, yes, we are aware. Two, could Riz have larger headphones? Eric, I think he could get larger headphones. I absolutely can. For sure. There are some hands, though. For sure. I think he could. Not should he, could he? That's funny because I can tell you, first hand, he has the same ones. And then the third one, oh, he just talks about it. He says that, yeah, so that Fest is also doing virtual workshops with AC. So Andrew Connell's doing his, I don't know if Andrew's gonna be there or not. But it sounds like, and I'm sure as the year progresses, that we might see something similar in a hybrid model for SharePoint Fest as well. Great event. People definitely need to look. I guess they had enough of Chicago winters this year. They decided to move somewhere slightly warmer because usually December in Chicago, yeah. Looking forward to seeing you in October, David. Yeah, I will say Austin in December isn't that warm. Might be Texas, but it's not that warm. That's all relative. Okay, hold high. So Sean, you don't know this, but Ohio is one of four U.S. states I've never been to. Oh, we gotta fix that, man. It's convenient. We gotta get you out here. Ohio, both Carolinas and Hawaii, everywhere else I've been. Anytime you come out, you've got a place to stay here now. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. How many of the Canadian states have you been to? We call them provinces, but they're the same. East, I crossed into Canada from Niagara. So there, whatever that's the Canadian first day. I also have done in Alberta and British Columbia. So I drove the Icefields Parkway from Calgary to Banff and Jasper, Lake Louise, Kamloops, and into Vancouver, and then cruised up to Alaska, which is why I have Alaska. Nice. I had 28 days in Canada and Alaska. It was fabulous. Nice. Amazing. That sounds. I've been in Quebec and Ontario and British Columbia, and also I've been in the state of confusion. So. Persistent. Persistent state of confusion. That goes without saying. All right, let's see. Next question. Michael Anderson, Mr. Anderson. I was a little confused by this. Again, I'm going to read these verbatim, and then we can comment on the questions being asked and be that state of confusion that I'm in. My company uses Dynamic 365 Outlook for our official email. Having constructed contact groups but cannot copy the addresses to use in other Microsoft 365 applications for non-email-based distributions. Is there a way to copy these files out of Dynamics Outlook? No, I think we need more context. I don't know. No, I don't know what Dynamics. Clearly, we are the brain trust on this one, guys. All of a sudden, you're like, hmm. My first thought is, I didn't realize that there was a, if there is, if there was a different flavor of outlook specifically for Dynamics. Yeah, that's. To the best of my knowledge, that's a plug-in or some other adaptation of Outlook to work with Dynamics. Yeah, so maybe Michael, if you catch this, is give us a little more description. As I wasn't sure about there's something that anything different about that. Let's ask the question right now. Are any of us well-versed in Dynamics? Not really. There is a Dynamics 365 plug-in for Outlook, though. Right, but that, so. That's to shuttle CRM contact back. But that data would be in the CRM side and it would then be within Outlook and within Exchange for, you know, so for Exchange Online or, so it wouldn't be unique accessing that data to Dynamics for any reason. Yeah, yeah. So if he's just trying to pull like a distribution list of members of a specific group that gets sent, like, you know, let's say we're sending Dynamics type data, whether it's sales data, whatever it might be, or groups of, you know, contacts through an Outlook plug-in, I'd be, I mean, can I answer the question? No, let's be honest, I can't answer the question. But I would be surprised if there wasn't a way to pull the data from Dynamics either through an API call, maybe a PowerShell option. You downloaded it, I don't believe it's true. Yeah, it's been years since I was a Dynamics CRM user, but, you know, again, it's, you can generate that list and export it to any other platform, so that's available. If you're talking about the Dynamics, the CRM aspect of that, and you can then take that and merge that into Outlook. So depending, you know, Michael, on how you're trying to accomplish that, you know, through the plug-in, through the tools, it may not, they're just like you would with any other external application. If you're moving from, as the organization I did, you're moving from Dynamics CRM over to Salesforce, you export the lists from that system and import them into that other system. And it would, you know, again, there might be some other better way of doing that, but those same steps would apply and work with pulling in that Dynamics and then uploading those into Outlook, logically. So. So basically we have no answer for you, but we can all kind of guess on how it might work. I think the answers we've given are correct unless there's more information, but, you know, based on what's- We're correct unless we're not correct. Incomplete and correct, I agree. That's right, so the answer is E, all of the above. Yeah. So I don't know, Christian, can people see what we post in the chat window here? If I open the chat, yeah. So this is, there's a question, there's a comment, I've just been looking on that. See the comment of where Eric said, when did we lose control of this thing? Yes. The last comment base. The assumption is we had control, Riz. So I'm just gonna post this in the chat window. It's a link to synchronization of data. It's basically across Dynamics and Microsoft Outlook. And leave your bad pictures off this time, Neil. Yeah, it's not really showing up the screen, my screen's too wide, but I'm gonna paste it over in the live streams. Yeah, it might be a good start point. I just think it's about synchronization, maybe it's an option. But at least it gives a link to a whole bunch of stuff online about various different things. Very good. It is posted. I'll try. All right, let me just make sure we're not missing any other questions. And he had nothing else snarky from David Wilhelm. Oh, he's snarky, Wilhelm. Man, boy, he's all over this. He's graduated to direct text me now. And he also clarified SharePoint Fest, so they're doing virtual training workshops only separate from the physical events. So they're doing kind of two things. So he didn't share a link to this stuff which we would really share. So David, if you're still watching and wanna provide something actual useful link so that we could share it. So David, is it safe for me to buy my ticket in October now? Well, that actually, I assume so. I'm in contact with Jamie. If I can paraphrase. Could if you hadn't frozen, Riz. Yeah. No, that was, that's disappointing. There we go, try it again. Okay. I'm not marketing. Thank you. All right. That would be a problem. To know him is to love him. You have to know him to appreciate it, but. He's a great guy. Yep. I was right on. Yes, it's David's one of those people that we can add to the list of people who are good natured about being poked fun at for stuff. So all right, here's a question from Eartha saying, how to know if my team members have seen the notification I sent? So this is the Microsoft Teams question. How do I know? No. Number one answer, ask them. By far the most direct route. Yes. But yeah, again, it's not like an email where you can send a confirmation which most people ignore anyway. You know, you just don't know. Well, we've talked about this previously. There is a difference between the threaded discussions within channel discussions and within the chats. So you can see a read receipt on the chats, but not within threaded discussions, right? It's UDP, not TCP, Eartha. So culturally, that's also what the reactions are all about. So people have been using the thumbs up to indicate, yes, I've read this. And I said culturally not experience. Just for you, Sean. But you just said experience. So you failed. Something's burning in my brain right now. I'm now getting pinged like massively people saying, so you're coming to Branson? So you're coming to Branson? So you're coming to Branson? There's only two people watching this, Neil. Like, come on, man. I don't expect this to believe. I was telling two people and they told two people and they told two people. You're popular guy, Neil. That's like me, Eric, Jenna, Amy, Miguel Wood, we're all coming. Neil is the VDAL Sassoon of the Microsoft team SharePoint Exchange World as you're now. So Miguel's making the trip too? Well, he said he doesn't have his boys that weekend, so he's free. Oh, that week. So that was his days. Oh, boy. Branson will not be the same. And just for the record, Miguel, there are no horses in Branson that you can drop trow in front of. New Orleans. We really lost our family rating today, guys. Yes, yes, we did. We'll all turn up dressed like KISS. Yeah, I was going to say, there's going to be a lot of this. Yeah, absolutely. The whole week, yeah. That'll be a photo op, man. I want to see that. There is a picture of me and Miguel wearing the whole KISS face makeup. Yeah, in London, right? In the London, the old Steve Smith's Evo conference. Yeah, those are all on Facebook. They're out there somewhere. I believe I've seen that one. All right, I've got a team's question here from Sean. He says, when users add files to, this is a longer description here, so give us your best meaningful, thoughtful looks. Yes, great. When users add files to channels and teams, they are dumped into folders with no metadata, not exactly a knowledge management, records management best practice. It really is for collaboration in the moment, rather than storage. He's soap boxing here, folks, but there's question underneath this. What do people do with these documents once they are done? We need them for records. Do you ask users to move them to libraries in the group created and add metadata, including labels and archive the team so they are still accessible? If so, do you have to clean up days or something? Do you just leave them in that documents folder and just let them pile up with no metadata? Do you ask users to put metadata on them, including labels? I think we get the point here. So it's a difference between the out-of-the-box structure of content, the SharePoint content in teams versus we have a formal records management structure, infrastructure in place. So what are your recommendations there? Convenience and ease of use versus completeness for records. Yeah. My thought is, yeah, you would have to move them over and add the metadata if that's what you wanna do or just do it that way the first time. I mean, there are links out of your files in teams to go to the SharePoint site. So they could be uploaded rather easily that way by just following that link, but yeah, you're gonna have to go through SharePoint and do it that way rather than just dumping into a team's channel or file store. Yeah, I think two things. A question that I've heard often is can I reprogram the out-of-the-box, the template for a new team creation to point to a specific SharePoint site? So if I've got that infrastructure over on SharePoint for the management of that, can I make it by default when I go into file, which is all SharePoint, move it there? And the answer is no, you cannot. But one of the things that you can do is, so yes, you're gonna have to do some post-production work once something's closed, move those across, assign that and whether the admin is assigning metadata, which is what a crappy job that would be or end users do it, well, what a crappy job that would be and whether they do it in a timely manner and responsibly and all those kinds of questions. One other thing that you can do is build your template as part of your provisioning process so that your team has a tab for that other SharePoint site where it is being managed properly and then train your users on ad hoc stuff, but anything that's project-centric or needs to be done in the moment, move it to the right location. So it's in your files, it's as a tab, it's within that structure there and it's also there's a tab for that dedicated SharePoint site of that right place for that content. So you can kind of orchestrate how that and train your users on the proper usage of that content but even that, there will be some post-mortem work to go post-production work to clean that up and make sure that all the content got to the right place. So another thought around that, which might be a nice compromise is build a flow so that when people upload the document, it sends an email as a sort of reminder to the uploader to complete the, or maybe even start a workflow to complete the metadata. That's another option, relatively low stress and it does push that reminder. Yup. Yeah, and even with all of that, there needs to be a certain degree of community management so that you're constantly redirecting people when you see correcting behavior or, hey, this shouldn't be here. You should have gone through the upload process because Shonda, your original point, I mean, it's intentionally flat the way that Teams is built to get the most people feeling, you know, comfortable about, yeah, ease of use, just do. I'm comfortable, have conversations here, start collaborations, but anything that starts to get, hey, this is project related, this needs to be tracked through the structure. It's a training issue and it's a community management issue to make sure people are doing it correctly. So that is a part of your governance plan, right? Yup. You used the word. There's a plug for your res. Yeah. I'm speaking your language. Yeah, from that perspective, you can also think about what you was talking about, Christian, in terms of, you know, you can have a link, Teams obviously has its own channels behind the scenes, has its own SharePoint site. You can link to another site if you want to make that official. You can then also have, you know, if people want to upload content to the official site, flow would be a great idea. I love the idea of moving content through flow, but also when you think about, okay, click the link to the SharePoint site and I have a list, a library, we're gonna call it, I can have mandatory metadata there, right? So I won't even let you upload something unless you complete these fields. Those are all options in SharePoint as well. So that kind of thing can, sometimes it can be a hindrance to productivity, but it's also, you know, if you need a specific field filled in, then, you know, the options are there for sure. Well, here's a question. How's that mandatory metadata upload interact with Teams though? I don't know. I really, really do know. This has been a problem in the past, you know, because you can require metadata as mandatory and people can still upload the file. I don't know what it does these days. So what I'd love to see, and I'm actually gonna go and do this later today, just because you've now just tweaked my interest, is create a team, create a new team and a channel, and go into the backend SharePoint side and modify the list to demand mandatory metadata on upload. And see what the Teams interface does with that. It'll be interesting. I do not know. You're gonna be on tonight, Neil? Probably. Well, you know, if you are, it'd be very interesting to hear your results. Okay, I'll give it a try. I have a fairly free day today, so I'll give it a go. Don't say that too loudly or you know, people are gonna knock on your door. By the way, I'm just not on the call, so I'm okay. By the way, I shared a link, David Wilhelm had shared for the SharePoint Fest virtual workshops. So you can see that in the live feed pages and I've posted it there. David also clarified, he says, of why he wasn't responding very quickly. He says, I'm in the hospital getting released with brand new baby David and then shared. Oh, cool. So then my next question is, why the crap are you responding here in the hospital? I'm telling your wife what you just did. You've been responding to a live stream of work-related stuff. Rather than- Totally busted, David. Well, you're totally busted. Wow. Yeah. Not the same, not quite the same experience, but I have to go and visit my surgeon this afternoon. I need double ACL, PCL and MCL surgery. Oh, geez. My knees, 26 years of martial arts and soccer have not been well on my body. And I am now a mess. I'm broken completely. I'm surprised I don't even need a wheelchair at this point. Bangly legs. Yes, not good. That's a lot of hope. I fell bold with a couple of spots six, seven months ago and so I had to have complete surgery on my right knee. So I don't ever know what you have to do there, son. I'm not looking forward to it. I'll believe me. So, David, get used to not having your ass cheeks because your wife's going to have them for quite some time now. Yeah, I'd like to. There's my freshman year at university. There was a kid who I knew that I don't know what happened to him at the freshman year, but he was some kind of mixed martial arts champion out of Virginia and Northern Virginia. I just remember meeting him. I met him in the dorms and he's sitting there. He had a board on his hand that had rope tightly wound around and he was just sitting there punching it and grinding his fist like that. And his fist was just so wide and just solid. And he demonstrated that the dorms that we were in were cinder block walls. And he just punches the wall. And I'm just like, what the crap? He's like, yeah, it's like, I really, I don't have any feeling on the fist anymore. That's all I did. That's scar tissue. That's called Makawara training. That's intense. It's insane. And we did have the conversation a bit like, what's going to happen later in life? Since, yeah, I'm already getting, I have a lot of stiffness. I have some problems now. It's like, you're 21 years old and you're having these problems. Like, come on. You got the knuckles of an 80 year old. Yeah, you're doing well. Oh man. Oh yeah. So anyway, good times. All right, let's see. We've got three more minutes. We've got time for one more question. Let me see here. Paul says, since I've been receiving a fair few emails today regarding teams, users are unable to connect to a team's meeting from the meeting pop up. No error message just sits and then nothing joining via the calendar and outlook seems to work though. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this. It's only been happening since yesterday. Any advice? Check your admin console. And he says, and there are no issues showing in teams or 365 that I can see. Okay, well. That's one of those things where, being a service and not having visibility into some of what may be happening with your tenant is if you're experiencing this over multiple days, because it could be that there's a, I don't know, there's something that's been updated or being updated. Rumble the linkage, yeah. This thing. If it's still happening 24 and 48 hours later, contact. Get that ticket in. Yeah, submit that ticket through your admin console and the tenant. Always love it. Get some eyes on that. How quick they are to complain through the social channels. And then you say, did you open a ticket? Have you let Microsoft know? Have you provided this feedback? Well, I don't think it's that bad. Right? Yeah. Is the machine plugged in? Yeah. I think we've passed that point, but yeah. And it's interesting from my perspective. So obviously I work for Microsoft. So I'm like in ring zero, right? So all of the, we operate four rings before things get to production, right? Ring zero is all the internal Microsoft people. We get the new features, the new changes, the new updates, whatever, first. And then we roll out. And under current circumstances, given COVID and we've tried to roll out new features faster, like the together feature, getting nine videos on screen versus just four, all those kind of things have all been happening quicker, quicker, quicker, quicker, quicker all the time. So we see it and we try and trap it and we try and if something goes wrong and the reason we have a ring feature is by the time it goes to ring four, which is production, we hopefully have cleaned up all the mess. Because let's face it, mess happens, right? Well, software did developing software in there. And when you're developing it faster than ever before, there's going to be issues. You just can't help it. But I agree with you completely. If after 24 hours, 48 hours, that problem hasn't gone away, there's something else to think about. But open tickets. It's in view, not me. Right, you absolutely should open it. If you see an issue, open a ticket. We might say, okay, we've got 500 of these tickets that are all complaining about the same thing. We already know that's one single cause for all 500 tickets. And we're going to fix that and we'll roll out the new update in the next 24 hours. Don't, sometimes even faster than that. But without tickets, we don't know there's a problem. Right, and you don't know how to prioritize it either. Right, absolutely. Yeah, if you don't tell us, posting on Facebook that you hate teams because this doesn't, we don't have a team of people crawling Facebook looking for problems. And sometimes you just want to complain to complain. I mean, everybody does it, but whether or not it deems, whether it's worthy of intentional or more attention. Inside Microsoft, we have a whole teams channel about people complaining about teams. We complain about it ourselves, but that's our feedback channel. I think they should redirect, they should move that complaint discussion over in a slack. Hey gentlemen, we are out of time. We're at the top. I got to jump to another meeting, but thanks everybody for participating. Of course, A, if you're watching this, so this is, we didn't say this at the beginning. So this is part one of episode 21. So this is our 21st week in a row of doing these sessions. We'll be back again at 6 p.m. Pacific. 21 heft of beer for us. For our APAC, so it's a little bit, but we still have some questions that are on the list that we have. Any other questions you can send to us if you'd like us to try and cover these at officehoursatcollabtalk.com. And otherwise, thanks gents for making it to the call. And I'm sure Hal and I will be back this evening. Sean and Mike are sleeping again. I just confirmed my calendar's clear and I'm going to do that next day. It's just gonna take a nap. Sure, uh-huh. When you're napping at 9 p.m., isn't it just called sleeping? Yeah. Depends on when we get start. When we get to know. Yeah. Not me, no way. All right, gents. We'll talk to you later. Chat to you later. Bye. Bye, everyone. Have a good one. Take care y'all. See you guys later tonight. Yeah, so I'm... As I was mentioning this morning, you know, rotated the desk around, completely changed everything up here. It it's better for the the production activities. I've got my lights better set up for it Got got more space to play and I actually have this little Zone this area over here. I'm gonna put. Oh, I'll show you here So I'm going to actually put up. I'm thinking about blocking out that wall with green screen Permanently, it's you know, it's a basement. I don't I don't need it's not like I rely on that light But create this little standing area and I'm gonna create a stand for the TV to have it up higher for the other monitor and Be able to do little You know weather reports, whatever Go Good times good times well, why don't we go ahead and officially get started we're we're at time and for those joining in this is the The second half of episode 21 of the Microsoft community office hours and With me as always Hal hostetler. Hey, Hal all right, and I'm Christian Buckley. We've got Sean McDonough that's halfway here. I know he's he might be napping again last week. You heard me Last last week. We're just like what happened to Sean and he fell asleep and and never woke up So that was pretty funny But I see it, okay They don't work up his internet. He says I don't know what the technical term Dorking up an internet connection means. I don't know. I don't know that I want to it doesn't sound positive, but Yeah, yeah, but so anyway anybody that's watching we're gonna have some other folks We've got Neil that'll probably join kind of Rizzle join You know, he always he always talks a good game like he's gonna join the evening But it's way he's he's got I think his his little girls You know what once they're they're out I think his his brain stops working at that point need is goes to sleep because they're they're up early Yeah, we should we should box Sean some more so You know we had a couple So some questions that were left over that were asked out in the office 365 community So we've we've pulled a lot of questions from the office 365 community, which we're also Livestreaming on as well as the Microsoft Teams community in Facebook But you can also email us questions at office hours at collab talk comm As well as ask them right in the live stream. So if you have questions we are monitoring the book of faces and Roy Perot, hey Is watching but you know always good to see familiar faces drop in say hello If we answer a question and we are wrong, please point us point that out to us though Hasn't happened so far. Oh, there's Neil. You know and that's Neil. Hey Neil. We're just we're just getting started How's it going the rolling start Sean is Sean's broken this evening so his his inner webs are down so he's he's kind of monitoring I think I'm via his phone or something. Okay, the Sean ever been fixed though. I mean you say he's broken is he he needs to be fixed but I'm not brave enough to do it. So I'm more I'm not going there either. Yeah, I Think with the covids. It's a good excuse just to leave it to You know someone else his family people that are there in town to do that I was just saying that we we do have a few questions that were left over from this morning There's a couple new questions that are posted out But if anybody has one go ahead and write it in why don't we jump right in? There I just saw one I tested it out here. I'm gonna shut this down move back over the questions. There we go Alyssa asked the question. She's fairly new user of teams She says if I'd like to forward an email from Outlook To the team and I at mention a tag In the body of the email with a tag work upon delivery Into the you know to the email and the answer is no It will not it'll show up. Just as text unlinked unhyperlinked. It will not recognize that as a tag I don't believe that there's a way there's not a short code or some other way for it to be recognized It's just look it's just a plain text that comes across from the email Of course what you can do and this is the most common practice for that scenario is Then respond to it you the email send it over there And I actually when I when I do that when I want to tag somebody or tag, you know add a tag in teams That's outside the body of that I will then go in and And reply to it and like CC tag a person or tag the item So it's still it'll show up as the reply to that other item. So it's still searchable But no it won't come across in the email So that's one of those things where I remember somebody asking that question when the feature went live Last year last fall was it this year? I don't remember times of blur So yeah when the when the tagging was added I remember somebody asking that question So I have no idea if it's out in user voice go take a look in user voice And I'm sure there's there's got to be some requests for additional features around tagging and my recommendation is in a scenario like this if it's a Nice to have or if you like really need it for the way that your team works and you're heavily relying on the use of The tags within teams is to go into user voice Search and see if there's anything that's related and voted up if there is if there's not then add something in of course You know Microsoft will prioritize things which are You know things that stop business from moving forward, but they do consider Items that are nice to have features if enough people vote for it So if you add it in what I suggest doing is then Share that user voice entry with everybody in your network and get them all to go in and vote for it And that will force Microsoft's hand To go in and respond to that if there's more than five or ten votes on any item Microsoft will respond And they may tell you we have no plans of ever doing this, but that's a response Yeah, so is it do you know it either of you know is it five or is it ten my memories guy What in the SharePoint? I know when we were looking at SharePoint on prem scenarios Because I was one of the I would always receive Inform a ever so imposter in the SharePoint on prem user voice I would always be one of the people that received the email say there's anything we were we were really looking for ten Yeah, yeah, or or a really smart idea Right, well, that's the other thing but it but I think the point there is that if it's you know ten whatever It is maybe other product areas have a lower threshold for that But it's it you don't have to have a hundred responses or hundreds It's it's ten and that in the Microsoft will go and take a look at that item And so that's why I recommend if it's something that you really want or need for your business or just that would be an excellent feature And it doesn't exist or even if it does exist and you only have a handful of votes upvotes on an item Share it out with your network and you get ten or more and Microsoft will go in and respond to that Yeah, and I will say Christian. I know having been the recipient of that the user voice incoming Things we we don't just only see We don't just only see them when they hit ten we see all of them, right? Yeah But we're likely to respond when something has a degree of weight behind it Yeah, and I was trying to remember which which team it may have been SharePoint But it may have been in teams. I'm trying to remember if Laurie a potmire who is the Community engagement lead over Microsoft teams. I can't remember where your which product area where they talked about it Where they're actually measured on that so they that they that the team actually the product team, you know They've set that as a goal or a rule for them that that anything with ten or more that they must respond to again, they What's great is if they come and they say something like it's already on the road map it's a lower priority, but it's but it's something that we are planning to do or You know, they could come back and say hey, that's a really good idea both of those scenarios happen a lot You know you get better insight into what's happening and And occasionally they come back and they say there's no plan to do that or I've also heard them say That's not something that we'll do Yeah Let's see. Yeah, and Sean keeps chatting on there. I don't know. He's not here. So It's like partially here, I don't feel if I should respond to that stuff, but Yeah, it's coming off really needy kind of whiny Yeah, I did like the Sean the 510 whatever it takes Yeah, that's good All right, so another question Rostislav says Client tries to share recorded video session via stream, but my email is listed as invalid user How can I view the teams recording if I was only a guest in another team's meeting? I don't think I can Yeah, so a member of the team To view the stream Yeah That's if you're a guest from another Azure AD tenant, then no you're screwed at that point Yeah, so that's we kind of answer the first half of the day You know about somebody that's external wants to view that content. What do you do? It's like well Then you go and you upload it to YouTube or Vimeo or put it on one drive or somewhere else Now if you still want to have controls over who can see it, you don't want it open to the world on your public YouTube page you can always put it as a hidden file or password protected And so there's ways that you can do that or again you can put it in a a one drive and control exactly You know who has access to that that file. Yep Sean says set some permissions on it. Thank you Do some pre inside stuff. Yes, so astute I'm mocking you Sean He says my pleasure. Yeah, very nice. All right. Yes, okay Faith asks is there any way to export out channel content? So we don't have the channel to email capabilities yet at the conclusion of a project for record keeping Export out channel content Well, a channel is technically a document library in the SharePoint site So you could just download the whole folder for the documents. Yeah, well, it's not a document library It's a folder. I guess the downside is you don't have the chat and all the rest of it that goes with it Well, but you have that so that is stored in on the exchange side and that's still You know attach what what you would not have when you'd have the threaded discussions you'd have all of the the documents and The chats rely on there's two parts. It's whoever participates within those chats So that's the part that you would potentially lose So what's one of the reasons why the recommendation is to We've talked about this in the past archiving and I'll do air quotes archiving a team is Not just removing don't remove the content and those threaded conversations and save it off somewhere Because you'll lose the the the context is searchable around all of the other the the conversations the activities the context around that content and so the better way of doing that is to remove users from the team and Yeah, and then Unfavorite that from the view, but it still exists. So if project starts back up All the content is still there at searchable But no one can go in and add or you know or remove new content or Participate in any of the threaded discussions. It kind of freezes it in time That's actually Neil is there been any conversation that you're aware of about a formal archiving like a one-click archiving of teams No, not that I'm aware of doesn't mean it's not happening, but it's certainly not something I'm aware of You know Yeah, that's a that's a question that's on my shortlist for Airlift when that happens So an airlift for those don't are aware. So it is it's an MVP only Kind of product team engagement. So they did One in Bellevue's a one near Microsoft campus and one in Amsterdam They were fantastic last year It was kind of a spin-off at the MVP summit where I think there was so much that was happening with teams The product team and budget MVP said, you know, we need to do something where it's just teams focused Not all that other technology share point outlook The the office suite Azure all that nonsense Just teams That was a great great experience And it was just a deep dive into Every aspect of the product so looking forward to doing that again all virtually of course Yeah So Yeah, yeah, so that was a request I that I had made a number of people I said what that actually looks like And so instantly get the product team that responds says well, you know archival the way that you're describing it It's like you can archive the teams components. You can archive the Chat components and the thread of conversations in an exchange. There are existing tools for those You can access kind of all those pieces through the compliance center There's things that you can do but it's really disjointed and I said I said well, there should be an admin only control That's a single button that says archive where it does that where it automatically removes all users Backs up all the SharePoint backs up all the exchange components to it But then keeps the office 365 group and kind of a hibernated mode if you want to Refresh that and bring it all back. No, that was just the idea Or a third party nice V can do it as well. That'd be nice. Just be great to have it. Just saying All right, here's one Stony It's a great name Stony has Yeah, anyway, Stony LaRue the country singer. Oh, that was the TV show by by that name when I was growing up Stony Burke Gracious me Jack Lord start he was a cowboy That was long before the Hawaii 50 days I was a young Jack Lord then it was a very young Jack Lord. I actually know who that is So Stony asks if I have meetings with the same members internal and external is There a way to Can those into a group can those Can them into a group so that I don't have to add them each meeting one at a time Make a deal Yeah Yeah, create a deal. Yeah Such as sending an email with questions to office hours at collab talk calm is a deal And so all of us will receive that email and can look at your questions and then email each other and be like I have no idea what this person's asking for You know another way to ask questions is To go to google.com There's a joke Yeah, not funny joke. I know all right One thing else going on Neil oh So I have something else going on so remember this morning this morning's call We talked about what happens if you Uploaded document to a teams channel that has required metadata. Oh, yeah, that's right So I tried it and I tested it and it still allows you to upload the document It still allows a member of that channel to see that document But it has a very clear red flag saying Managed metadata metadata is missing So it and I it wasn't like a super thorough end-to-end test of all scenarios. It was a very simple quick test But fundamentally, you know, I correct basically just correct the channel I went into the SharePoint site behind the scenes. I created a new column. I said that column is being required data and I uploaded a document through the teams interface if I upload it through SharePoint I get the little pop-up box that says you need to add this if I do it through teams I don't get the pop-up. It still loads the document But then when someone goes to view that document it says there is missing metadata So it's in the view whether you're looking at it via SharePoint or within teams. Yes, okay There's no interface through just the team scenario you to see the the notification, but there's not prompt No, not all unless you just upload the document No, no prompt whatsoever and I tried it as an admin and as a user same experience It just uploads but says there's missing metadata Well, there's something that a manager or a project manager can harass by going and doing a query on show me a listing of all Documents with missing metadata Who uploaded those and they can go harass those I see a theme that Hal never attaches signs the metadata when he's uploading content and maybe because it's via teams So you're never prompted and you don't know to do it. Yeah with teams You use that was it you simply don't know it just lets you just upload done And then you only see it when you if you go to the view through teams To then see the document you will show you there and say there's met Metadata missing if you view it through SharePoint or upload it through SharePoint If you upload through SharePoint you get the prompt You know the box pops up says dialogue box pops up and says these are required fields And you have to do that if you go and just view the document through SharePoint the column that you're expected to have required metadata on just says a Metadata required or information required. I forget the exact phrase ology Okay, I couldn't you in theory then go in and create a power automate that says whenever a document is You know via teams can you do that through which workloads say if it's uploaded via team to prompt and provide like a form for the metadata I would imagine you could I don't know for sure. I've never tried it But it would seem like a logical extension of what we just been talking about. Yeah Be something to prove out Maybe we should let's do this. Let's assign a task to Shawn Okay, and prove that out I think that's something good a good task for Shawn to do and to give back to all of us and report back I'm good with that and I'm gonna say I have to drop it that's at the bottom of the hour by the way So I'm gonna go a few notes. That's good anything else that we get assigned to Shawn Neil while you're here all of the things Yeah, I think that's good. Hey, I did my task last week. So I created the DL. I feel happy. I did something Yeah, that's good and oh and so I had a call with the with Rackley so And he said he did he connected with you as well So I will I will most likely be flying in I had to be honest What convinced me was what he said what we're gonna be doing the day after the event Which is we're going to that top ranked Roller coaster theme park that's right there. Oh, so that's why he's asking us to stay till Thursday. Okay. No, I get it Correct. Yeah, so we're in I think I'm gonna do I'm gonna he won't he's he's interested in a session on Azure Sentinel Which is kind of in my wheelhouse now these days and Amy my much much much better half She's she operates in the office and 365 Enterprise mobility suite so in tune autopilot all that kind of space So we're gonna kind of a hopefully gonna do a kind of a combined double session covering both Compliancy Security all that kind of thing end to end That's our plan See how that works out. Yeah Well, I hope it's come hang out and drink I was thinking about doing the drive out there But if I can't if neither of my boys go and there's a there's a couple people that are local I'm not I haven't ruled it out. I just I'd like to do the road trip. I'd like to experience You know that that trip the kind of part of the southern swing Yeah, Utah go out through Colorado down through Pueblo and and kind of the southern end and and then down all the way over to Branson and then maybe come back south through eastern Texas and Dallas visit some friends and then kind of cut up and over. I've seen New Mexico Honestly, there's no reason to ever drive from it through most of western Texas and most of New Mexico, there's no reason Texas is where I got my first speeding ticket in the US Driving back from Utah Well, where are you in Utah Christian? I'm just south of Salt Lake. I'm in Lehigh. So that's where the Microsoft office is and so Amy Amy's from Utah. Oh, she grew she grew up in Heber. Oh, so she's up It's beautiful. I'd love to live up there. Yeah Her dad lives in West Valley now. Oh, that's unfortunate So We've been up there a couple of times to visit him Just to hang out and just I'm not a fan of the Salt Lake Valley and West Valley the western side of it There's some there's some you know nice parts, but yeah, I lived in the Harriman For two years, which is the bottom of the valley and it's like due north straight is is West Valley City and then you hit the airport kind of up there, but Above us in is it Jordan Jordan? Yeah, South Jordan West Jordan It's gonna be West Jordan or South Jordan. Yeah, I think it's West. Yeah. Yeah, so we've been a couple of times Yeah Yeah, it's some nice parts up there, but I prefer Utah Valley So down over the point of the mountain. I'm right at the top of the valley like literally where where we are like I You can there's two roads up. There's I-15 which the major corridor that hits Salt Lake and over on the west side There's Redwood Road, which kind of goes up straight connects with Bang-It-Er and which hits the airport and that kind of stuff and where I live at the top of Lehigh is Right in between those two. So if there's an accident on the freeway, I can take Redwood if you know The opposite is true. I can go the other direction. It's kind of kind of nice Yeah, the mountains are beautiful. It's Every time I if folks that I haven't seen it and I actually have a bunch of pictures like out on my Instagram when I walk the dogs Like every day, you know the walk of the dogs before the Sun comes over the top of the Wasatch range I mean, it's just beautiful. Just just so beautiful and Yeah, we were just up in Heeper. We went up to What is it? I keep thinking Deer Valley. It's not it's Deer Deer Creek Reservoir just right up. Yeah, you know right there and Did water skis and or the yeah, it's a lot of so anyway, all right one last question before you jump off. Let's see Abishak says has anybody experienced below issue turned on new teams meeting experience for one user After that, she's not getting an option to add any Participants to meeting or call as well an old meeting experience. She still has options to add Participants to a meeting or call don't know what's changing after turning on that option Tried clearing all teams cash even tried to reinstall teams But still the same issue Some of their is there's a disconnect with the new teams meeting experience if everybody else is still on the old I Don't yeah problem. Are they seeing so in your teams meetings? I would say in the top left hand corner You have this button that says preview Are they talking about that feature or are they talking about like signing up for teams in the Like the beta early ring experience There's also two different things free existing meeting that they're trying to have people or two will remove people from That is free existing August had to I Just had to With our company Meaning that we do every other free week on Friday. I just had to add to sales people To the meeting Invitation and there was not an ad people but what there is is a window And you click in the cursor and you start click click in the window you get a cursor and then you start typing a name Oh and Then it'll resolve it'll like that. I'm yeah And that's that's the same same way of adding anybody to a team Basically you say added add a new member and it brings up a thing and it says give me an email address or a username or something And you type that in and then it gives you what it thinks as suggestions And you can just select that which is exactly how I did it with these two people as my memory serves on the old Experience there was an ad members or modifying members or some other such button Yeah, yeah, sorry how yeah, I Seemed to recall talking about that. I mean usually if you think about meetings without look like if it's an established meeting You have to kind of forward it to new members You can edit the meeting and add a new person and it sends an update to everybody As opposed to just a direct forward I'm I I don't I kind of recall how teams well if you do it I mean, that's the other answer is that you know, you can As you said you can forward it to those individuals in outlook if you go in and if you're the owner of the meeting And I do it with an outlook and you you know double-click open up the the meeting window and add users You're usually prompted standard outlook behavior whether you want to send it just to those people that are newly added or everyone Only if you edit the body the text in the meeting does that automatically send to everyone which You know, I wish that you could go in there and update that for new and It didn't force You to resend that to everybody that does anybody else get annoyed by that Yes It should just automatically update that in their calendars without me having to push to him is the cloud people Why are we still relying on? content to be pushed Yeah, I'm just change if I'm just check I can say if I'm just changing the text if I'm changing the time of a meeting Then yes, right, of course once you get notified right if I just modify the agenda All right, no problem should not be an issue Yeah, I Guess because they could be you know online pull down update You know, it has to kind of prompt them like hey, there's been a change there, but I'm just saying that was just lazy. Yeah Yeah, the technology is lazy. I like that All right. Yeah, we're just over Neil if you've got a drop, but I'm okay for a minute or two. I will I am gonna have to drop in a second Yeah, no worries as long as they have you. Oh, hey, there is a question here about backup So this is in the Office 365 community I guess I should look really quick and see if there's any doesn't look like any questions have been Posted over I'm just gonna check in my feed as well Because questions can be asked and if it's on my feed or in the watch group feed Okay, I don't see any other questions So feel free to type in some questions and we'll try and get to them But I'm not getting anything from the DL by the way. Just, you know, I don't know Oh, I because I haven't added you yet. So I need to it's on my list very much. Yes That's all right, it's been quiet so it's you know, nobody said we've been using to send stuff to each other So Kader says hi, I have a question about backup How do you back up SharePoint and OneDrive to a server on-prem? So assumption there is SharePoint on premises also online and OneDrive obviously is generally online So if you're backing that up to on-premises to a server There's a number of ways you can do that You can use a sync client to do it, but that tends to be a single individual user experience if you want to do it from a You know, I want to back up this entire SharePoint on online site collection To a location on-premises, then you need to look third-party Veeam bunch of other vendors I Hesitate to say which one's best because I don't know But there's a bunch of other vendors that provide backup solutions for that So let's name the other big three, of course There's a there are a bunch of them out there App point has a solution if you have other app point tools in there Quest and metalogics the quest tools share gate has their tool as well So I'm absolutely I'm absolutely not advocating one over the other. That's just the one that comes to mind. Yeah, so well, I was Folks to because your organization may already have some of those licenses in place so to go and ask around Ask around talk to people work out what's best for you and No, there's no I would say there's no one solution generally better than any other It's about what works best for you. All right, and somebody else's Tony has a question This is recently discovered that when 40 emails in Outlook The body of my email disappears and is replaced with a few Chinese-looking characters And he's got Attached which I'm not gonna click on stuff I've run McAfee and have found no viruses at work. Does anybody have any advice on how to resolve the issue? So in Outlook trying to forward emails and it's So I would I would yeah, I would start I Mean obviously I'm gonna put my you know, I've been an engineer for a long long time So my first question is does it only happen to him in his organization, or does it happen to everybody? My second question is is he using Outlook or is he using a different mail client? the third question is I Guess my third question is kind of a little bit different in terms of Has he spoken to the administrators of his exchange? environment To see if this is it this is common or I guess that's coming back to the first question really is it only him I would go down that path for sure If it's something that's just only affecting him Then maybe you need to think about your laptop something's wrong with your laptop Like there's a there's some malware installed or something on those lines That's a very weird scenario. Yeah, how have you run into that? Yeah, there was something about that. It was a long time ago I don't have to research There's it by the way, you know, I'll move it over here So you kind of see in the in this in the stream, but here was forwarded across it's got some attachments and there's the these You know characters that is replacing the body of his email now somebody responded and said that Kind of on your point, you know rather than you know, they look at it from the laptop the computer standpoint saying Go in and set up a new profile and re add the account and see if that behavior Remains if there's just some glitch in the matrix or Something associated to Something to do with locale settings or What exactly I've got to go consult I am so I would I would question the profile thing because if I knew There was a profile on my laptop that was behaving normally and a profile laptop computer ever Like or an a profile that was behaving abnormally. I Would not want that profile on my laptop on my machine. Yeah, I would want my gun Yeah, so that at that point I'm thinking if I don't understand what this problem is and my Security people can't help me understand what the problem is my to house point no locale Time zone all that kind of thing can't help me Sorry, I'm just gonna pay for my machine. Let's start again It's it's a drastic approach very very drastic approach, but for me It's the approach that I would I would absolutely take and I think about it It's easier for me to say that because in my scenario, you know, obviously working for Microsoft makes things a little bit easier I can literally in three buttons reset my machine back to a factory install of windows and Autopilot just doesn't sting Everything comes down just fine. So it's easy for me to say that it's not as easy for someone else You may be in a more challenging situation So I understand that completely But Google is there it's it's a thoroughly appears to be quite a people suffer from that Because I find their questions on it in the answers for them in the dark net form spiceworks form Yeah, that's it is a rich gets an encoder appears to be an encoding thing Mm-hmm Yeah, that's interesting Yeah, you know and and I get your your perspective Neil too, especially if it's if it's something that You know potentially that you've been hacked to that kind of thing if you go to that drastic measure If other methods are not working One of the things that my first thoughts was is this happening and just is it is this behavior happening in the the the web application or the desktop client if it's Happening in both places then I would because that would indicate hey there's problem with the desktop application and Reinstalling it's not fixing it. There's just something off about that But if you're seeing it in both locations then that to me logically would indicate it's something bigger than You know outlook application Yeah, I special so I yeah, I like the idea actually try it in the desktop app try in the web browser on your laptop Try it in the web client on your phone Yeah, if you behave the same way then at least if you then have to raise a support ticket you have you know you have a degree of evidence a degree of Information to provide to support to help them help you Breathe I'm gonna add this here. I will paste the link into what the howl shared for that windows bulletin into the Feeds There we go Anybody is run that has a different you know answer for that, you know, please let us know Um Hey, Neil do you have any while we have you has there been any update that you're aware of about then the new Microsoft learning app and teams I know it's not available yet. I Just know that it's forthcoming a lot of questions people have asked about that. I've seen that In multiple locations. I want to know too. I think it's a I'm excited to see it Yeah, I've heard about it I've been on a few calls about it, but I really don't have anything that I could give you a kind of a concrete response to What it's gonna can what it's gonna contain when it's gonna be released. I know the learnings team we've done a You know because so behind the scenes we've done a bunch of changes this year with even the team I work in and the Azure side We've done a bunch of changes in terms of how we're doing all our enterprise skilling initiatives all of our Microsoft learning platform It we're trying to make it more accessible And I think probably Don't don't don't don't judge me on this one, but Cheaper easier people to access But I've not seen Really seen anything so far on the actual channels that it's gonna go through So as an MVP you probably see more than I do from being honest Yeah, I've not seen anything really through the MVP I know over in the RD it was it came up somebody asked a question on one of the RD lists and I was just looking for the quick email here to find I don't see it The responses because that list gets very active very quickly and got bird. Oh, here it is Yeah, Kurt Kay responded and pointed us to the owner of that So there's an RD discussion that's being set up. I've not gotten a notification around it yet So I don't know when we're gonna do that. So But I Yeah, the regional director. So yeah for those that that don't know Yeah, I just got renewed so it's you know, we we get Sometimes a little more inside view into things and some of the MVPs, but it's in certain areas, but it's Yeah, I I'm just I'm reading through here. I don't think that there is a Date around it, so I think it's this fall. I think they're saying just fall Generically when that's gonna be available, but yeah Yeah, I'm seeing I'm seeing that Since I moved out of SharePoint into Azure they don't they I'm like I'm a female anathema to them I like they don't talk to me anymore Yeah Yeah, there's I mean, it's really cool stuff and and there's a great comment that Carolina responded to this Saying that again the app you're referring to is not yet out It pulls content from LinkedIn learning what's great about that the app is you can actually as an administrator You can go in there and for your organization Set up, you know content is coming from LinkedIn from third-party sources that you have licensed from internal materials And so you can really go in and curate The you know, I think it's leveraging The the yeah, she says it's called Microsoft 365 learning pathways Oh, no, that's well. Yeah, the learning pathway stuff that that's out there But anyway, yeah There's to have the teams app and to automate it in that way through the team's experience is gonna be a big deal So a lot of people interested in that but the of course the learning pathways is is free and available if you go out to Adoption.microsoft.com you'll be able to find more information about what's out there today Yeah, Karawana says it's on adoption.microsoft.com and it's the second carousel item Yeah, so well if Karawana says it's probably true No doubt with her authority there. I would also say just just generally bringing something to the table here now Microsoft has a Platform which we refer to as the enterprise skilling initiative With that. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I know and customers customers should absolutely if they if they have an account team if they have a Contact within any of the sales teams at Microsoft Think about that the ESI program When we like let me say let me give you an example. I'm gonna find the link So, okay, I'm working I'm I'm working with a number of customers right now I won't say who they are, but we're doing large-scale migrations of on-prem or from other cloud Providers of mother hosting providers into Azure. All right, that's the work I do these days and as a part of that program We provide for completely free about 105 to 110 thousand dollars worth of enterprise skilling That's across the whole Azure stack But not just the Azure stack. It's Microsoft stack So if you want to do mix of Azure and Office 365 and 365 we support all of that So I don't want to get into a sales pitch because that's not my job It's not what I do But just just I think for anyone out there listening should just be aware of that There's a there's a ton of stuff that you can get for You know working with your account teams working with Microsoft There's a bunch of stuff out that you can work with. I've got a on the live stream here Is this the Brad Smith article from June 30th? Microsoft launches initiative to help 25 million people worldwide acquire the digital skills needed in a COVID-19 economy And so they put funding and resources around it. So that's that's it. I put pasted the link in there You go take a look at it. Yeah, it was great Did that so Yeah, I keep talking to my my kids I've got you know, three that are in college right now and and It was sharing with two of them that are interested in some of the The tools yeah, I've got one that already has her master's degree. She's done for now whether she does her PhD later I don't know if she wants to show me up. There's you know, whatever Yeah Yeah, it's kind of weird. I'm I'm about to sign up for a master's in Cyber security I already have my I already have my PhD, but I want to do something else So I'm like, okay. What can I learn next? well, I'm queued up in the fall for Web development as I'm going after a certificate. So I'm I like the you know, honestly if I won the lottery and Never had to work again. I just go to school full-time. I just absolutely love reading learning You can't be happy learning. It's all about learning Fantastic Alright Yeah, so just if I suddenly disappear from the community either I've won the lotto and the fact that I don't gamble And I don't ever buy lottery tickets Statistically, it doesn't really decrease my chances by much So, you know Well, I don't drink so oh, alright, I'll lemonade There we go. There we go But yeah, it'll be Yeah, just yeah, feel free. We go out to lunch that you know, just just allow me to supersize that that'd be nice If I win if I win $500 million I will buy you the best steak you ever had in your life. Oh, that that sounds great All right guys, I am Yeah, no worries. Thanks a lot for joining. Oh, it's been a few weeks since I've been on but I'm glad I made both sessions today Yeah, no worries. We'll be back next week As you know, yeah, you've got your calendars come as often as for long as you can I will Yeah, please. Oh, yeah, I will I'll do that. All right. Thanks a lot. Take care Christian. Take a howl and Sean and all you're out there somewhere. Maybe he's out there Take care guys. Bye. Bye. All right, let's see So just looking to see if there's any other Questions, I don't see anything that's been posted Let me see if any other questions that I missed or anything new you refresh on this You don't see any other new questions, I think we've got it covered. I'm hitting I'm running into the questions that we've already covered This evening and this morning So in our remaining 10 minutes Now what else can we talk about? Well, I don't know the only The only thing that I've seen if any noteworthiness. It's a number of Rich from well, some in the MVP forums that I've said I visited and some of other places indicating that the 2004 Windows update does not go well with surfaces. Oh really Yeah, I Don't know what that's all about, but I've seen five or six or seven people With surfaces pretty much indicating it breaks them And they have to go through all kinds of gyrations basically cleaning everything out and Reinstallishing for reinstall re-installing from From downloaded media in order to get the thing to fly with 2004 Wow I don't know I've yet to experience anything along those lines because uh, well my little little surface five here is is Whenever I go to update windows update it keeps telling me well, it's coming and that's that's about as far as that goes It's coming And I don't know the circumstances if it's going to blow the poor surface up I'm happy with it to stay that way Yeah, but Now I don't have any more information on it than that. I just uh, yeah, I've seen some of those emails I've seen some of the the dialogue in various forums But uh, you know my I've got my surface pro. Is that a four a three? I don't know. I'm gonna older one This is working fine for me. No no problems And that's that's on the this year's update the two double four Uh, I did go back and and check it should oh sure comes here see Sean fresh from his nap You're still on the phone with them. Yeah, I'm trying to get my ip address back What you do That's a tommy boy quote Everybody bent back the door of his car david space car So he quickly puts the door on there david spade goes over to open the garden the whole door falls off and Tommy boy turns up what you do This is exactly it's an important american film. It's a classic. It's gonna be studied for the ages Yeah, it's like citizen game mystery man and tommy boy Three of the most important films in american history and galaxy quest Forbidden finally saw last star wars if you if you don't like forbidden planet. I mean I feel for you Sean would you that's every big star when they weren't big stars leslie nielson um, oh gosh Oh and others and many more. Yes Sean what did you think of the last one the last star wars buddy? I'm surprised they brought uh Uh palpatine back but Good way to conclude it You know, I've watched a bunch of these videos of of uh of people of all the purists that are complaining about everything wrong with it and all that kind of stuff I thought it was A good wrap up to the story I'm not that Emotionally tied into the series Into the canon and all that kind of stuff now Poked me with the stick around lord of the ring stuff. I will be very sensitive to what amazon does and doesn't do Uh with that my kids are having a hard time getting through those books I I just looked at that movie. Yeah, you've got people like walter pigeon and francis leslie nielson jack kelly earl hollamann james drury all before they were even stars really And you look at those folks today. Anyway, I'm done. I'll shut up. Yeah I don't know who I know leslie nielson I didn't recognize maybe I've seen their their faces. I'd recognize them Yeah, lots of folks in there Hey, Sean, I did just get from uh from netflix and I guess got two dvds in I got the bad seed So been in the mood to watch that that's what kept prompting you but I'm I may have to uh Add it to the collection I've got a boatload of dvds here to uh and blu rays to rip So It uh, you'll see a bunch of stuff in a while Very cool. Once I get things situated Hey, there's one of these Um, one of these uh youtube shows that I watch frequent. It's one of the list Um, you know series on there. It's like, uh, I'm trying to remember which uh, which company did it, but they did a like top five Top five sci-fi or time travel movies that are that they were not Financially successful that are just fantastic movies and watch like the little like two three minutes of each one clips Two of them I've never heard of like they had 12 monkeys when it was in the list of fives and um There's another one that was well known. Um, I think that the other um Willis one where it's got um Um, who's the young the kid that was in? Um Gosh his name is he's he's always on late night tv His song and dance kid, but he was in Tom tom time travel movie with bruce willis where bruce willis was the old version of him and the young version Had to kill the old version. What is it? Yes That was on there as well, but these two that I never heard of them one was called pre-destination It was like a lower budget thing with a bunch of high school kids that come across this I guess the neighbors stop responding answer the door they go in the basement and there's polaroid photos all like hundreds of them all over the walls And it it I guess it takes pictures of like the next day of the future And and so in a bunch of antics that happen It looks kind of dark and looks really good. I'm gonna try and track it down and the other one is a movie called time lapse So I might track them down find out which services are on and ping you to add it to the server You know, yes, if we can find them definitely For those that knows like, you know, shan is kind of a a a movie buff. I'm a movie buff Hal are you a you're more of like the k-pop fan type stuff? No, I may forbidden planet type fans. Okay. All right. Yeah, and if you either have to be the one of you seen it then then I really go it's it's on a half dozen different services and I mean most of these people went off to have their own tv shows like jack kelly was was bart maverick in the in the tv show maverick and And francis. I forget she was a lady detective James dreary was the virginian You know what they call there's a call. Do you know what they call? You know what they call lady detectives, right? detectives I'm just saying exactly Yeah Uh, yeah, no and one other one that I really like and how I don't have you seen any of these Sean and I've talked about this but the The black mirror series. I think I've gone through almost all of them now Yeah, um, they're fantastic Really well done. It's kind of a you know modern day twilight zone Oh Yeah, they're really well done. It's there's every one of them just about every one of them has You know big stars in it. They're written and produced by You know different people. Yeah, it's the twilight zone. Oh nice Yes Still waiting. Yeah. Do you is the 80s version of that? Is it at bunplex? It's the complete 80s series. I don't think it's up there yet. I haven't ripped it yet. Yeah, that's a that's a great series as well Um, but yeah, so so how I would highly recommend it. There's uh, one of the best ones is with um What's her name? It's uh, um What is that one? Trying to see it grim reaper Worst girl of this year. This is the old Thriller a tv show. That's classic The prediction Uh, masquerade These are these are from a friend. These are all good old fashioned phs tapes tear and teakwood That was uh, this this stuff is ancient because that's that's twilight zone vintage. Yeah I just uh, as I was shuffling around the garage came a bunch of via across a bunch of vhs and I've got the uh What's that vhsc the mini ones the smaller ones? So I have like I think four different formats of tapes that I came across I actually have reel-to-reel as well. I have of uh, I collect an artist a singer peter murphy and I have um A reel-to-reel that was sent to a los angeles television station for one of his videos in 1985, I think And I came across that no way of ever watching it It might not even be his video and his package is such but how am I ever gonna I'm not gonna go track down and buy a reel-to-reel Yeah, but but I own it when I've got two part of the collection. Yeah One of them has actually got a two preamp in it well Yeah, I've got a pretty heavy tape collection too. It's all you know beta Right. No. Okay. Well, this is this is quarter inch audio open reel reel-to-reel tape Very nice The t of the old one is an a4000 that's a separate preamp and transport the other and the the newer one is an a410 Which is integrated with solid state electronics and tx were built like Sherman tanks right Yeah, trying to think is somebody in uh college my freshman year in 86. Somebody had a reel-to-reel um, he was a uh music production I think he was composition. I think he was I think it might have been composition major But he was really into the then the mid 80s Uh recording techniques and had a reel-to-reel So had a little a studio set up in his dorm room And an untrustworthy uh roommate who I witnessed um adding little recordings Sure Unauthorized. Yeah Oh Anyway, well, hey, we're we're at time anyway and and and while um Sean on the phone makes for fantastic video Uh I think um, you know time of death Um 702 p.m. Pacific So thanks a lot Hal and Sean well sort of Sean and Neil and uh as always Um The the recording so I'll have this compiled tomorrow. I'll add it up to youtube um, you'll be able to find if you go out to uh youtube The insert for clad talk you've able to find episode 21 Uh, I will go through and timestamp every topic in both the morning and evening sessions So that you'll have a list of all the links You can also go to buckleyplanet.com and I'll have a blog post With the video as well as all the link list there and anything else that uh that we've talked about And we'll be back next monday at uh adm pacific and again at 6 p.m. Pacific uh for uh episode 22 So hopefully you could join us. Oh and In the meantime if you have questions Send your questions to office hours at collab talk.com and we'll try to uh answer them during the week and respond back to you directly All right. Thanks a lot gentlemen Absolutely. See you later. Sean have fun Continue to have fun Yeah, all right. See you guys later. Alrighty. Bye. Bye