 When you are at the age of 20, what were you doing? Tell me, at the age of 20, ulukona fanya nimi. What had you achieved by that age by the time you're 20? Well, today we want to find out from this particular person, a very interesting guy who has done a lot and at his age he has already motivated me. I like this guy. Welcome back. This is entrepreneurship. My name is Ram Magukko and of course Dasha Ghazuli is why in the morning today we want to talk to a man called Peter Frederick Maul. He is of course the founder and CEO of the global youth movement. He is of course turned up shout out which he founded when he was and as I said early on 20 years old. And so far of course has already settled in different countries and don't find out more about what he does. There is this young man Peter Maul Karubusana. Thank you very much. How are you doing? I'm doing amazing. It's good to be here. You're doing a good job. Thank you. Let me start first of all by saying you recently won the Kenya National Diversity and Inclusion Award for Youth in Leadership 2019. And of course your organization was overall first runners up Kenya National Diversity and Inclusion Award best youth employment and engagement strategy. You also recognized in your membership of youth and youth work by his excellency the first lady of Kenya that is Margaret Kenyatta. We've quite a rapport you've got there. Thank you. And quite a profile. Yes. What do you say about this? How does it make you feel when you look at such kind of achievements? From where you're sitting right now? You know one thing you have to understand as a young person who is daring to be more and do more. When you're acknowledged, when you're given an accolade it is an encouragement. It is kind of like a litmus test. It is the indicator that you're on the right path. And I think many young people need that encouragement because as entrepreneurs, as dreamers you go, you start, there's hurdles, there's obstacles and no one is saying good job. No one is saying you're on the right path. So when you win such awards it's like, yeah. Somebody actually recognizes what you're doing. Exactly. It's someone that's seen it. Yeah. All right. For those who don't know you, let's just give us a brief, just briefly. Okay. Who is Peter Maul and what are you all about? Okay. So I'm Peter Frederick Maul. I started an organization when I was 20 because I was uncomfortable. When you're uncomfortable you basically have two options. Change or hide. And I'm sure so many of us hide, but I thank God that I changed. And I am basically a youth leader, a conservationist, a humanitarian, leadership developer, community developer. I am someone who wants to see the African youth as assets, as solutions. I want to position them in opportunities that they can apply the knowledge they've learned in informal and formal education. I am somebody who believes that our future depends on nature. And because we have dreams, we need tomorrow. And so hence our organization focus a lot on nature, a lot on youth inclusion, a lot of policy work, grassroot work. And if someone just know who I am, I'm a dreamer duo. I'm a believer in being new. Being new is the most beautiful thing you can be. The seat you're on is because who you are. So if you change the change, if you change the future, then the seat for you disappears. But if you change the come aware of who you are, then that seat, that door is for you. It is for your character, it is for your mind, it is for you being authentic. And that's what we have to start being. Most people when they get bored, they go home, Netflix and chill. But not this guy, he starts an organization. Stand up, shout out. Stand up, shout out, cheers. What is that all about? So stand up means what do you believe in? What are your values? What do you safeguard? What do you stand for? Shout out, sika le le tupu. Shout out is how do you shout out through your action. Solution oriented thinking. Suso is a home for change makers. It is a place for mentality. It is about youth empowerment and youth inclusion. It's about poverty reduction, conservation, good governance. It is really about like I said, you as a young person, we love that youth of many, but does that number count? So it's about how do we position young people to play their role. Because one thing you have to understand, I used to be an activist. But I changed very quickly because I realized the government can't do it all. And if I want a future, I must help them do their job. We are the ones who should take our responsibility out of place. We must build the capacity, we must fill the gap. Because if we continue just complaining, nothing is going to happen to be honest. And that's why we have global youth movement. Yes. Because now you want everybody to come together and do something about it. But now let me get your view about your perspective about the youth in Kenya. We complain about the government, the economy, covid. And now fuel. And of course so many things known. What's the perspective about the position of youth even when it comes to govern leadership and governance in the country here? You see, there's something we normally say about my peers. If you go to a forum and you see young people start up and speak and they want to speak forever, you know why? Because they feel they don't have a voice. They feel they don't have a space. When it comes to governance and our economy and everything that's going wrong, the issue is there is no structured space for young people to be and play a role. So what happens is we find Twitter. Because Twitter is a space where we can say what we want to say. We find whatever space we can say what we want to say. So young people need structured space to be the change makers that they are. So I wouldn't say that youth are complaining too much. I would say that they feel like they have to fight for a space. But no, we as a country, as a continent must give youth structured space to apply their knowledge, to apply their skills and to be the change makers that they need to be. So it's really about that they feel lost and they feel angry, frustrated. They have energy that they can't utilize. And a young person that has energy they can't utilize can utilize it in a wrong way. When I started in 2013 when I was 20 one of the things we said we want to make doing good easier than doing bad. Because doing bad was so easy. Give me time to guess what you said. You want to make doing good easier than doing bad. Because doing bad is so easy. Because doing bad is so easy. Wow, I've seen that in so many aspects so many angles at work, at school even in terms of leadership. Doing bad is easy. Because people do evil things because no one cares. We are saying they did it, so can I. They stole, so can we. And it's okay because you believe that Haiduru as long as nimi patayangu wengineshida yao. And you see something that I want to bring to your attention is the lack of values. You see as a young person making money nowadays is so disconnected from values. You think making money is corruption. You think making money is going around the corner. So as many young people making money looks like you have to do the wrong thing. So we need to instill values. As an organization we love something called Ubuntu. I am because we are compassion, kindness, unity, empathy. How can I be up when you are not? Having values in entrepreneurship is key. And I liked what the previous speakers were saying like it's not about money. It's about serving your gift. And that's what I say, serve your gift. Serve your gift, you'll get the money. Serve your gift, you'll get the opportunity. Find what you're good at and serve it. I want to take about the rate of youth unemployment and how we are engaging our youths in the country so far. So far we are at an electioneering period. People are campaigning. And one thing that is common with everybody who is campaigning is that they talk about employment. One thing that I would give to every person who creates employment is a high five. Creating employment is not easy. Whoever likes you gave you a big disservice. Actually creating employment is not easy because one thing is you are creating a task and a role for a young person or for someone to get paid for. And so it is not easy but it is needed. And so that's why I'm saying not everyone needs to be an entrepreneur. But being an entrepreneur is finding a need in society filling that need and getting paid for it. And so when we talk about this electioneering period everyone is talking about unemployment and never talk about youth. But really do they mean it? We have to make sure that when we talk about youth we're not just using the word hivi hivi. Give it meaning, give it dignity. You've been an activist before and you mentioned you stopped it and now you're trying to look at things from a different perspective. Do you still feel like they mean it now that you're looking at them from a different lens? So one thing that made me change from being a full on activist to a youth leader and a community developer and a conservationist is the fact that when you are working against government they see you as an enemy. But when you are giving them solutions helping with policy strategies giving them ways that they can engage young people and include us in the solution then they see you as a partner. So for me it's not about believing them it's about holding them accountable. So in the next government that comes in we are going to definitely work with them and definitely push them and help them implement and have more opportunities for youth and to see that youth are not just beggars we don't want handouts we want to be given the chance to show you what we can do. And I love that because you have managed to engage the county government of Mombasa before you did that and you set up youth groups across the coastal regions I'm looking at Malindi, Kilifi, Kualaimo and Mombasa and you carried out advocacy as well as some cleanups around the area and of course you engage the youth in managing that particular county what would you say was the reception you deal with the youth you've told them you know guys this is an opportunity that I have brought in this place that can help us in this area and in that area now as a youth leader not as an activist did they accept it did they receive it because now youth complain about so many things but when a solution is offered do they take it up? So one thing that young people are hesitant because of what we've seen in social media because what we've experienced in life youth need to see evidence and that's one thing we've been able to offer them is evidence of success evidence of achievement and evidence of impact so we're actually based in 39 counties in Kenya and working in those 39 counties and working in the communities when we see success in Nairobi and in Taitadaveta Nakuru gets inspired when Nakuru has success Kisumu gets inspired so young people need role models they need stories of success that is possible they need hope hope is the most priceless thing right now my friend if you can give young people hope you give them a direction you give them an opportunity they will get it done What does it take about the government involving the youths in its own activities you know one of the things is devolve functions is new yet it is old and so finding ways to actually have it meaningful engagement and not just kujia come to the activity by no we want long term engagement so we're trying to really set up long term partnerships with different government from devolve functions to the national government and put in place youth platforms in institutions such as Kenya One Life Service we want to have proper young youth structured platforms where you're not just dependent on me and my organization there's a whole structure for every young person to benefit from and that's the dream it's not just about me we want an entire generation Where did all this passion come from my brother where did this zeal come from you know one thing of course I can say growing up I've experienced a lot but I really think it's the something inside me that says you're more than this something inside me says that there's more to you and if there's more to you there's more to the person next to you there's more to you there's more to him there's more to her and it is the innate of course I can say it is God given but it is the innate intrinsic passionate zeal for I can do more I can do more and if I can do more it is a disservice not to try and do more and that if I have a gift within me I must serve it and that is what really it's about it's just that feeling inside you that you believe in a Jiamini and you know that you know what I have something to contribute and to be honest all of us who are born realize this you're created for a reason and if you don't find that reason then you're giving your parents a disservice God a disservice because you're denying the world you so when you sit and stand up and when you go wherever you're going you are serving a gift that only you can give let's talk about gifts you have your own but now in terms of there's this gift that you have of music I know you love poetry you love music how do they come and play to form Peter Maul so um first of all music is very powerful it is one of the most powerful tools to communicate and inspire poetry I say for me poetry is like putting together words on a fishing line throwing it and then hooking you in do you compose of course I compose poetry has also been an orator it's been a public speaker so I say that I'm a very good public speaker an orator so I utilize that poetry there I also used to do slam poetry but as you go along you grow into different spaces so I utilize the power of word now in advocacy lobbying in boardrooms and music music it's I created a project called open stage which is music culture and arts and is still developing and music will always be at the center of things personally I have not developed my own music per se but I give opportunity we created something called the OIC Suso choir which is on your crown choir which is girls from Dagerita and Kibera who are part of our program in leadership and mentorship and they performed at Ambaseli in front of the CS of tourism and wildlife from a song we co-wrote with my colleague so yeah so I still utilize music as much as I can here in my space you should take it have you taken it to the studios yes it's out I'd like to listen to that one it's called can you hear us it's on YouTube not yet released but when it's released I'll send it to you yeah that's what I really want to hear can you hear us and how is the reception from Dagerita and those that you've involved in this so one thing during COVID-19 so we had something called the empower school program unfortunately it's schools but during COVID-19 we stood with them mostly people shut down but actually we grew through COVID-19 by adapting and we did food distribution for about 2.5 million meals and the main thing is people love when you stand with them during hard times and not just need them during good times and so the reception from Kibera and Dagerita is amazing it is our home actually we have this center in Kibera on Karanja Road and it's a home for change makers and it's just a beautiful space so it's been a great reception and they just family right now and that's what we want what community, what strong, sustainable, resilient communities that are passionate and that are ready to go above and beyond I can see you're trying to fight poverty in this particular angle here poverty reduction so far what are the challenges you've gone through but you've faced one thing that I can tell you is that sometimes when people are given opportunities they're too hesitant to step up to the plate and that's what I was trying to say they want to see evidence of success they want to be encouraged to take the opportunity for example we just secured one million Kenyan shillings for our Ted which is basically our Suso Biasara and pushing young people to take this opportunity we have the money now you need to make the business plan you need to make sure you have the work plan you make sure you have everything covered in your budget and teaching them and bringing them forward to the plate and I think in terms of the biggest the bigger picture of poverty reduction is poverty of the mind that is the biggest thing making someone unleash their mind open their mind and break their chains of what they have experienced and what they've gone through so poverty of the mind is the biggest issue when it comes to poverty allowing someone to believe something different is possible and that they have the solution that they have lived how they've lived for many years many generations and you're coming to tell them something different is possible so you have to really show them that it's possible change their mentality and get them thinking solution oriented get them thinking action with hope get them believing that this is the step in the right direction and it's not instant but it's a journey sometimes they tell you know what you do not grow up where you grow up you don't know what we go through so how do you connect with that luckily I've never experienced that because for me I wouldn't say I'm the most humble but I balance humble and cockiness humble and cockiness and I'm approachable in the sense where I come from I will sit with you I will eat with you and I will resonate with you because I've experienced all sides of life so I will understand where you're coming from and like I said it's about being human as well you know sometimes we make it all about the money but I make it about the human I invest in people and so it's important to make someone feel important to feel like they are worthy and that they can be part of society let me tell you the number one issue we have when it comes to youth and anyone is when they are taken away from society they isolated from society they feel this is not my world but when you reconnect them you give them dignity you show them how they can play a part and a role that is when they can choose to come at them and it's important those achievements that you got those accolades you acquired because there is a whole list of them yes that's too doubt for you that you will receive of course you know you may acquire so many things but there's only that one person that one item that sticks out from the rest so there's two when I got the top 35 under 35 2020 it really gave me the encouragement that I am not only seen I am being heard and all achievements that my people that my Susanians and change makers have done is being acknowledged and that was for me was a huge tick for my community that we are doing something great but actually the biggest one was when we met the president last year so we met his agency we had a meeting a boardroom meeting where we presented our organization and what we believe needs to be done he loved us wow he loved us because we did not ask for anything we went there and said what help do you need you went there and told and we told him what help do you need and you see this made him shanga because here we are we are not asking him for anything we are telling him we are here to serve and that's what I am telling you about serving your gift no matter what table you are on whether it is a table in Kibera because you serve your gift and watch what happens for most people when you have that opportunity to go there you would say Mr President I would like you to do this for me I would like you to do this for me instead you are saying Mr President I want to do this for you that is something that we should all learn from I think one thing people need to understand that it's important that what you can offer is the greatest thing you can get I would like to give you 30 seconds to have a final word a closing remarks talk to that youth who is watching you I am not going to put you in any particular in whatever you feel down in your spirit talk to somebody there closing remarks I think I will start first with entrepreneurship I think it's important that young people understand be patient be patient doesn't mean waiting it means how you wait and you have a gift you have an idea you need to give it to the world don't be selfish being a servant leader is the best thing you can be when you serve your gift does open for you let me tell you something this world needs you when a time of climate change when a time of biodiversity loss when a time of wildlife extinction you have a dream that dream needs tomorrow water food security and that means it needs nature that means your dream needs nature that means your dream needs a tomorrow to come a reality but it needs you no one else whatever you have to offer without your fault without the clothes you have without the assets you have you as an individual you are talented you are more than worthy you are more than enough stop isolating yourself stop putting yourself in chains free your mind and influence your space you can do it thank you that is peter fredrick moll founder and CEO of global youth movement stand up shout out suso I wish you the best keep doing what you are doing I am looking forward to your more accolades coming from and I hope even more and more people get to see what you are doing let it spread I appreciate it that is the end of this conversation on why in the morning thank you so much for being part of this particular program my name is Ram Aguko may God bless you may God bless the work of your hands have a fantastic day