 George Bruno with the 21 report the European edition we're in Warsaw, Poland, and I'm talking to John Cooper welcome. Thank you Yeah, what was your talk about? Okay, so the talk was about how I used to Go out and connect with women by Using game material. Yes, you know using techniques and routines to get that win to get the success And I thought that was pretty normal behavior. That's what you do if you want something you go and get it, right? But then I realized that coming from that place in the social world trying to form relationships that way is unhealthy and It actually leads to a lot of pain and suffering because if you're seeing women as transactions and commodities then it's not going to lend Itself to a genuine connection so I started to heal my own heart from a girl that broke up with me and As soon as my heart started to heal I came to terms with my pain integrated the pain I saw the social world totally different and I started to see it more from instead of trying to take from women Express give unconditionally instead of trying to work for outcomes just play with women Instead of seeing is going to war and going in-field and using all this military language You it's your it's a playground. So just play with the people. So I created like a different a badge of honor if you like I called it social heart history and It's it's the idea behind it was to offer guys an alternative to seeing women as these things They have to pick up and return back to that heart of a child that just wants to play and connect to people in very unconditional and I've been teaching this and I wanted to show that in the talk about how that's actually really attractive and people love To be around people that are just expressing unconditionally and not trying to take from you So I was I had a in that short amount of time I was trying to give my story and show the back story How I went deep into that that world of game. Yes, and then I came out the other side and I found a much more. Yeah much healthier More socially free paradigm Social Heart Street. So it's all about perspective then it's all about perspective and how you live out that perspective. Yeah You see I Could actually I didn't I should have said this in the talk, but let's take a guy that's homeless. Okay He he's the zero that I was referring to the zero guy. He's accepted his fate He's not willing to change anything then you have the straight line approach These are the homeless people that go around with their coffee cup begging for money They take that straight line approach and either they're going to get the win some coins or they're not and Then the third example would be like a busker. They're just playing their music on the street and Then guess what people they're attracting money into their hat, right? but they're not going around begging for it and That's fundamentally what I'm teaching people is to not come from survival from approaching begging for women Yeah, and trying to get that result. Yeah, just play your music play your art That's what these being the artist is about express yourself and that will attract the right people As long as you can let go of the need For women you will attract the right people into your life doing that. Yeah Seems too easy Well, it's simplified because the thing is George's we we had this when we were young when we were children This is what we were like when we went to a playground. We weren't approach the swing. There's a girl on the swing I must go and approach this. There's someone in the sandpit. Oh, no, we just played It was like it was like a quantum. It was like a pool of quantum potential. We swam around in this Yeah, and there was no rejection. There was no approaching we played with people. It was want to play exactly with me Yeah, right and if they didn't want to play with you what what you're gonna do you went to the next person You didn't worry about it. So we had it as children. But yeah, what's happened is as we've got older We've moved into a world which says Get the girl get laid get the the six-figure salary get the Hollywood physique They're all about getting this thing and then once you've got it then you're meant to be okay And so we're conditioned by society to see everything as Transactions and once you get that thing you're gonna be happy My thing is about returning back to that heart of a child like a child. They're very they're very giving if you look at Children they'll they'll give so mommy. I got this for you like a twit You know like a stick or something. They're very playful. They're very forgiving. They're very honest Those are all the natural qualities that we've actually lost as we've got older This is actually a very fresh approach In the light of all the guys that are just like teaching everyone to work really hard Exactly. So this is what I call this is this is a paradigm shift. I'm teaching is that Is to return back to that to those gifts that we had as a child? Yes And then there's a brilliant video where there's a little little toddler that's running around in a supermarket You can find this on YouTube and this little toddler is running around going up to lots of people giving them a hug and Some people are looking at this little kid running around some people hug the kid and some people didn't yeah But that kid wasn't rejected in those moments where they didn't get the hug. They were full of love They were full of expression and joy that it didn't bother them And so that was like the perfect guru for you is that the child there Whereas the guy that's out on the street like predator mode like terminator to with the you know the drop-down menu of like I want your boots and your motorcycle You know and using that approach with women it gives off that terminator predator vibe Whereas if you can just come from a place of like Seeing the world like a playground and just something to play with people Then for me it removes fear it removes control and strategy You can still lead the interaction with your masculine edge, but there isn't that thing about like You know needing to get a result that doesn't exist for me You know, so I think this is a very important talk that I was hoping to distill For guys and it is it's a different perspective and hopefully a nicer one So if you go home alone and Sleep in your bed alone at the end of a night That's not considered a loss or a failure. No exactly exactly exactly that but for a pick a part is that's a failure For someone that's going out there looking for girls. Yeah, what if he's in bed on his own? Yeah, he's lost He's had a crap night, but my thing is you want to be winning already, you know So when I go out in the night out, I'm like I want to enjoy the music I want to dance. I want to have fun with people. I want to be I want to be a cheeky monkey and Was I successful in having fun on my night out? Yes So I've won. Yeah. So anything that happens Aside from that is a bonus. Yes, it is. So I can only win or win-win with it with a woman Let's say, but I'm always going to go happy go home happy Whereas the guy that's going out there with the sole intention of getting the girl Like he's gonna have that one like I did in the talk the one or the zero the win the close Or the zero the rejection. Yeah, so I basically you could say it's like in quantum terms I've un-collapsed the wave function. So it's no longer this binary outcome system Yeah, I've turned it into a pool of potential where I can explore all of this potential and whether or not it leads to sex Or it doesn't matter. It can it can seamlessly flow into maybe a mental connection Or we can talk about a great book or a great story or I'm you could say I'm invincible in that way I'm impenetrable because I'm always flowing to a new Eventuality whatever I'm doing. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. So this this could work with People of any age, of course, this isn't just like the 21 to 27 category This is not a divorced guy at 55 Right could adopt this mindset Absolutely look this is people that go out there and they just want to play and they're feeling good about themselves Yeah, isn't that attractive don't we want to be around those people that've only got good vibes to share with you Yeah, you feel like they don't try and take anything. Yeah, this is symbiotic You feel like it's a sim it's a symbiosis where you're gonna get a good feeling and you're gonna share it with this person Yeah, but a guy that's looking to take something from a girl who's trying to pick her up. That's what I call It's like it's parasitic. It's like they want something from this girl Yeah, and we know that that doesn't feel good when we're around these sorts of people, you know It's much it's much nicer when these people these people feel good They're playing and they just want to share their play with you. It's like yeah, I want to play with you, you know So it's good for Fact for younger guys. It's good for older guys. I teach women. It's even good for I teach companies how to improve their communication skills and It's for me it it permeates all social dynamics if you like Yeah, I went out last Saturday night to hear a band a dance band and And Band probably did two or three songs. Nobody was on the dance floor by about the third song a guy got up there Just started dancing by himself Really and I could just see like some people were like what a weirdo, but he was enjoying himself He was he had the moves. He was just having fun. Yeah kind of having fun next thing you know a group of two or three girls came up and started dancing with him and then Within five or six songs he was surrounded by women dancing with him because he was fun and he'd take them one at a time and spin them around and and He went up there with zero expectation except just to have fun and By the end of the evening. He probably had ten women That he could have yeah, of course. I mean, I don't know what happened after that, but the reality was it was Total abundance That's attractive So he was adopting my first core principle, which is autonomy So autonomy means to be self-contained within your own actions. So a guy that's like looking for girls He's not autonomous. He needs that result. He needs to get her for him to feel complete the guy that's just dancing on the dance floor He's like I'm winning already. I'm happy. I'm autonomous. I'm self-contained and that's what actually creates that magnetic Yeah, it's magnetic these people. Yeah, you know We like to be around these sorts of people. Yeah, and so and even when he twirled the girls He wasn't thinking approach and even if they didn't accept the 12. He hasn't lost anything. He's rejected right He's completely in that social hardest mindset. Yeah, we play that quantum play state where everything is fine You don't want to swing. I'm into you swing. No, okay swing. Yeah, he's like totally fluid He's yeah flowing fluid. Yeah, but you know, he's in that social flow He can't fail and it's such a great experience That is such a brilliant way to go out being like that guy You know go out and try and enjoy the night try and be okay. Who goes out dancing by themselves, right? I mean but the thing is this it you have to overcome Maybe other people thinking oh what a weirdo But the guy was clearly having a good time and I saw the brilliance in it I saw right through it and I'm like that guy is so smart Yeah, like and then there's all like the single guys leaning up against the bar Just kind of like scoping out women looking around with a drink, you know I mean that kind of and here was this dude up in the dance floor having a ball. Exactly. Yeah And so that is what I'm teaching guys Don't be those guys at the side of the bar needing to looking at girls like, you know, like Forrowed brows sweat glistening. Yeah, you know from their foreheads Just go out there Let go of the need for women. Yeah, and that see this is the paradox that a lot of guys don't understand is To have women in your life to have beautiful people in your life You have to let go of the need for them Mm-hmm. You have to feel good on your own and then from that place let go invite them in Give them a twirl on the dance floor But as a wider life lesson invite them into what you're doing, you know And at no point are you going to be like I lost, you know, it's because you're already doing what you want already You've won already. I mean to me to be honest. This is simple I can't believe that we the whole what communities going to this pickup thing for me. That's that's the abstract. They're actually Making it difficult. They're making it difficult for themselves. And you know a lot of that comes from Okay, so what happens is The early genesis of the pickup stuff it was it was forged by a lot of the mystery methods stuff And it was coming from a lot of left-brained a Map of the of the social world broke down into mental steps Yeah, so everyone adopted these mental steps and what they did is it kind of locked them into their heads Into their minds and not in their bodies anymore And so that's why I gave the example during the talk of like just throwing the ball or Lifting the hand rotating the hips rotating the hat, you know the fingers moving the weight forward Release and have right. It's it's so many micro Compartments of yeah, you have to do or isn't just throwing easier. Yeah You know if I'm driving a car to Amsterdam If I'm thinking about arriving in Amsterdam, I'm going to crash on the motorway Because I'm not present, you know, I'm already thinking like what I want to happen You know, you've got to be in the moment enjoying what you're doing and let go and just play But for some reason we've learned this huge over complicated overly Mental process and what I'm trying to do is just like distill it all down Get us back in our bodies again and just bring us back to just simplicity flow play Expression be the social artist You can be your own worst enemy overthinking it End up suffering. What do they say the paralysis of analysis analysis paralysis because expectation creates hesitation Yeah, so as soon as you see a woman you go, I want this it's even going to go. Well, it's going to go badly Yeah, there's an expectation there. There's a there's some kind of win or lose There's a binary outcome system of winning and losing So of course there's an expectation for a result and that's going to create hesitation That's what's going to create anxiety and then you get approach anxiety and then you have to overcome it You have to plow through you have to be the warrior was what I'm talking about is remove the expectation You don't need anything from this girl. I just want you to go in there and explore it like a pool of potential Just go up and meet her and see what happens and just maybe lead it. But at all points you can You know, you're going to be, you know, listening to you if I was like a young guy and I was out there in the market And I was, you know open to meeting someone This would be the approach that appeals to me the most And I know, you know, I've interviewed so many people about, you know, their Their methods step one step two step three And to me, it's just that's too much like school. Yeah, you know This is very free. This is very It's freeing. It's fluid. It's It's not hard. It's not look, I always ask this question. I should have asked this in the talk Do you approach your mom in the kitchen? Do people approach their father in the living room? No, yeah, we don't open our mom, do we? Yeah. So why are we using that when we're talking about strangers? You know, say see the word approach We approach a bomb. We approach the edge of a cliff. We approach that sensitive issue at work So why we it's danger. It's it's survival. So why are we using that to inform our actions with women? It's it's lunacy You know, we wouldn't use that language on our friends So why are we using it on people for the first time and then opening her and then transitioning to this and then building Comfort and then assumption to it's like that is not normal communication. That's not that's not a genuine connection You're having there. Yeah, that's treating it like Building blocks is treating it like Connect the dots. Yeah So unless you're able to connect it perfectly, then that's going to break down because that's not how people meet each other The social world is chaotic. You know, it's uh, It's like the weather you can't you can't engineer you can't you know, I say that you Um, you can't control the waves, but you can navigate the boat. You know, you can ride the waves That's what you've got to do. But it's freeing, you know But using all this sort of mental this logical steps for me, it just It's analysis paralysis and it's like it's not it's not human for me. Yeah Creates options having fun creates options Having fun actually puts you I mean that sounds a bit uh, woo, but having fun when you're in a play state It actually puts you into a quantum state. Yeah, okay, whereby all all eventualities are embraced Sex a great book to share a great story. Um, it's all welcome Whereas when you're coming from that binary approach of winning and losing It's like you're operating from like a like a low like an eight-bit computer Get a processor because when you're coming from play, it's almost like a a parallel process It's like you're accessing so much more potential and opportunity Um, then you would if you were just working for these these outcomes. It's like everything's welcome You know, it's almost like a lucid dream where you're both the creator and the participant Yeah, and you're walking around and you don't know what's going to happen, but it's all welcome You're gonna have a little adventure. That's what it looks like on a night out Potential lovers potential best friends potential great stories to share And I just want to go into the bar and see what happens and explore it all sure and for me That's just a great way to and there's no rejection There's no rejection and so that's why people don't understand me when I say there's no rejection in what I teach They're like, of course because she said no to you I was like no only if you're looking to get take something from her if you're just giving yourself away expressing like I did with the phone example Demo, then if I'm giving then I can't lose. You can't lose. I can't lose You walk in winning I walk in winning and do you want to win with me? No, okay. Do you want this hundred dollars? No, okay I'll give it to someone else. I'm not rejected if you don't accept this hundred dollars See what's happened is we put all the value on the women And we want to take that value from her. Yeah, and so that's the pickup paradigm. What I'm saying is I'm a million dollars. Hey, do you want to do on some of this million dollars? No, I've still got the value I'm still going to give it to someone else That's that's ultimate empowerment brilliant. That's ultimate autonomy. That's ultimate social freedom Why are we not doing this? Yeah So until I came along everyone was like stuck in this pickup paradigm like guys They're such a lovely way of socializing some people are so hell bent on working hard for it They've been taught everything needs to be worked for and earned Exactly. That's the whole like I said get the girl get laid get the six-figure salary So we we take that and we apply it to the social world. Yeah, and of course By doing that we see like I said like we see everything as transaction need to take from women And so we're brought up that way to act like that. But instead of working we should be playing. Yeah Instead of taking we should be giving instead of going out there like pac-man needing his His his his his appeal we come out there just shining on people You know So, yeah, that's it. I call it social artistry because it's about healing the heart coming from that place Where you feel good with or without women and just shining on people. Yeah, and if you step in the shade How's the sun going to feel right sun doesn't care, right? He's going to shine on someone else, right? You know if if I'm pac-man and I need that piece that missing slice to make myself feel good If I don't get that missing slice Then it's death. You know, it's like, you know, I'm in a state of survival. So So, yeah, so that's the that's the basis of what I'm teaching guys, you know and women are teaching men and women companies Where can people find more? So if they want to find out more, they can go to my website artofsocial.co I have an academy where I take guys through the process From pickup artists to social artists And if they graduated through that they can come and do live coaching with me And um, yeah, that's I'd love to love to hear from them. Excellent Social Heartistry A new perspective on dating pickup game And actually I think life life stop playing games and get and start playing life. Yeah, that's what it is. Thanks. Thank you so much