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Yeah, they're both like that. But anyways today we're reviewing a Tamil film, but I know it's kind of like Divisive it's originally a channel and then watching and so it's a Tamil film So but we know it's popular in almost every language, right hindi to lugu Tamil, but I know hindi and Hindi and Tamil are two that are so so popular and I think it even did bigger with the hindi dubbing Then it did in Tamil just because of the number of people probably wouldn't speak hindi But obviously we don't like dubbing or anything like that So we watched it in the original Tamil and we do that for a couple of reasons One is to honor the original language that the film was made in just for the fact of honoring that language in number two You miss some of the nuances of the original performance if you hear another actor as good as the dubbing may be It just is not the same. Anyways, so but Bombay and I believe we are the first people on YouTube to ever review this film shut the front door But it's also came out in 1995 Really? Yeah, but like there was even like I know she'll a is even older and there were other reviews of that one Yeah, there had been no reviews from what I have seen of wow on YouTube I'm Jen genuinely shot, but it's directed by Mani Ratnam. Who is from tell say that's I believe for where we've seen him before a Hindu man and a Muslim woman fall in love in a small village and move to Mumbai where they have two children However growing religious tensions and erupting riots threatened to tear the family apart great synopsis Yeah, I wish they wouldn't put that second part me me Yeah, granted I don't know if they did in the original because it is such an old film So most people probably knew about these events. Yeah, right, right? This I believe it's based off of the the right actual riots, right correct Okay, I'm like Lagann, which apparently is not based off a true story The legend of Lagann But yes written directed and produced by you're I'm composed by the incomparable a or Ramon. Yes, and then the main two Arvind Swami and Manisha Kaurala, and I guess you can mention him as well Not sir. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, but dad the dad Yeah, one of the two dads one of the turds that was her dad Obviously this came out in 1995 and I'm pretty sure everybody in India has seen this film, right? Spare for Buddy but us if you haven't seen it, I guess go watch it watch it back I don't I mean it seems odd if you haven't seen it in your Indian. Yeah, but There are probably some of you so go watch it come back. You're about to be spoiled, right? Yeah, your initial thoughts Uh, I didn't write a paragraph, but I really I really could have Mm-hmm. I only want to write paragraphs if it's this genuine thing that flows out. I'll say I loved the movie I'm really good. I did something I started watching it and because of the events of my day I really wasn't in the right frame of mind to watch anything at that time, you know It was my day with it. I honestly don't remember. Okay. I'm trying to know what happened I don't know. No, no, I don't even remember which day it was But I just remember things that happened that day that really it affected my mind and I started to watch it because they We were gonna review it. I got 15 minutes into it and I stopped and I went I'm I am not doing this Movie this service it deserves my mindset's not right So I just watched something else just to enjoy went to sleep and I'm happy I did because the next day watched it good and I Have very little to say about the film that I disliked It's really small the number of little things I could point out and go that was a mistake I think a lot of you know, I was forgivable. I really enjoyed it, too I think a lot of the problems which we'll get into probably have to do with the age Pretty much of the film and I'm guessing budgetary even at the time I don't know. Yeah, it was as renowned as he is now even something like this Even something like when they showed the two dead guys and the news said that the bodies were mutilated beyond recognition And I'm looking at the dead bodies and they're not mutilated beyond recognition but I I was so in love with the movie at that point Yeah, I thought you know what they would have to do with special effects in makeup to do what they said This is forgivable. This is enough. Yeah, I actually really have them I not only have a very tender spot on my heart for the film for a lot of reasons I genuinely can say I love the film, but man Manisha Corrella if that's how you pronounce Your name you like your better than Dilsay Unrecognizable difference night and day difference. Yeah, I'm guessing you like this film more than Dilsit Huge if you haven't seen our Dilsit review go watch it Yeah, I did enjoy that one. Dilsay is for me one of my least favorite films. I've ever seen to come out of India Yes, so you redeemed himself money run 100% night and day difference for me. Okay, so we'll get into it I she was absolutely Delightful. Yeah, I thought everybody in the film. They were everybody really was oh, um, I really I really enjoyed the film It was interesting because when you start it off I actually kind of either I forgot or I didn't know that it had to do with the riots Hmm, and so I actually for the first one hour or so. I was like, okay So this is like a cute love story, right? Right? It was like they were quirky and I was like, okay They're defying their family right their families and all that kind of stuff Which is a whole nother strange thing that we can't really understand too much here I mean we've seen stuff so we can understand it now But yeah, the fact that you know once somebody's this religion somebody's that religion that obviously doesn't really click with us Right, and we hope it doesn't click with most people Yeah, and I got something to say about that when we get into that and then also the And I'm hoping this changes in India as well, and I think it has from this time at least the Husband wife can't show affection in front of people It depends on where you go It depends on where you go by Bombay now you all forget it Yeah, the the place where you could show affection in public not just as a married couple hasn't changed fully No, no, no, it hasn't changed fully but like but it's better than it is here. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, if you're not just for a married couple But even just a couple together to show affection in some way I remember when I uploaded a video in of In Johnny and I called cut it we're walking on the street and as we were filming I just she said something really cute And I wanted to give you a little kiss while we were walking got a lot of comments on that video About don't do that Show your significant other affection. Don't care what other people think. Well, that's why I kissed her. Yeah Yeah, I Don't I get it. It's yeah, it's cultural, but it's dumb. I'm sorry You know, I'm not gonna say you have to do it But I think if you want to do it do it and don't care what anybody thinks well that's what I'm gonna and also there's also another aspect of that of We weren't We wouldn't be flagrantly Doing something to provoke people example when I got off the plane in Calcutta for the first time because showing signs of affection is Not a very common thing Especially if the person isn't India when I arrived at the airport to see her my natural inclination seeing her for the first time Was to give her a hug and a kiss But because I didn't want to do anything that was disrespectful to where I was at the time You know when in Rome kind of thing. I said, is it okay if I give you in mid-sevenths? She just gave you a kiss. Yeah, so but yeah to us. Yeah, it's it's we you know with strength We've seen a lot of films that we get it. Yeah, but still it's very strange It's strange, but yeah, they I thought let's talk about the main two first I love their little love story love their I thought it was adorable Yeah, the way they started it out and kind of you really built it up You're even okay with it being like love it for sight like I love you like it's just basically this Marry me. You're okay with that. I've gotten used to that. Okay great cuz I you know I love that You know the you do almost two years now that we've been watching it, so it's okay with you now I'm like, okay. Okay. That's fine. I guess it doesn't actually happen, but okay But the I thought both of them did a really really good job In in their performances. Yep, I thought they're the whole supporting cast Yep, did a really good job like mitzvah. Obviously, I thought did a phenomenal job, especially towards the end Oh, man, you know, which we'll talk about both of them talk about in that time the emotional But the fact when their kids are lost and the emotional That hit me harder now than I probably would have if we watched it over a year ago. I bet Obviously, yeah obvious reasons. Yeah, but I was like, I can't even imagine Okay, I would I'd be like, okay. Yeah, burn me. Fine. That's fine. Yeah, exactly burn me I don't know or that moment and I really I really did When they got the kids and started to pour gasoline on them Oh, I really didn't think we were about to see them burn up. Yeah, that was that was some the way They did like the the riots was fantastic. The director did the riot parts Unbelievably well because it did stuff which I'm imagining at this time in Indian cinema wasn't done showing kids almost getting burned alive Very graphic for the day a child walking without parents just crying down the street The one moment and they really did a great job the little kid who was covered in blood and is crying Belivies in pain at very great. They did a really good job with Obviously having kids in it really helps because everybody's like nobody wants to see a kid get and and kudos to the direction of the kids Yeah, because they did a great job. It's even like the reunion of the brothers Was there was one there was one moment where I was like, okay, they told him to do this They did which would like the little yes Okay, that was fine whatever I thought they did a really really good job me too So hats off to money Ram in that because I thought that was probably the most powerful because They really took a twist on you obviously because you thought okay This is just gonna be a nice love story right and then I was like and is this the riots We saw in black Friday or these different right. These are different. These are different rides. Yeah, the Muslim Hindu, right? Yes, at least that's I believe that's this is a different ride. They'll correct me if I'm wrong I don't think they're the same as portrayed in black. That is If these if this was accurate to what it was that was That's always intense. Mm-hmm. What was going on at that time? Is it was like it was almost hard to believe like I feel like if you showed this to some people they'd be like that didn't It really happened did it? Well, yeah to some and but those who understand The tensions between Muslims and Hindus throughout history. Yeah all over the world would know I mean in Saudi Arabia, they publicly behead you. Yeah, so Yeah, but I thought especially There was I I don't know if I really liked the ending ending Unless it's true, I guess Though we're all in this together. I loved it. Yeah That part I like I was like I knew I knew you wouldn't I was like, okay. I get why you're doing right? Okay, let's move on. It's cinematic. Right. Everybody's kumbaya. I was like, but that did not happen Yeah, I can almost guarantee that it was scenario I wouldn't find if like, you know, it kind of dispersed and then they ended was like the family reunion Yeah, but I thought it was a little much. It was it was a hand-in-hand because unless it actually happened You can tell me did I don't know because it was such a grounded film and so graphic and I know how How much? One of my favorite things about Indians. It's weird. It's a double-edged sword I love how emotional Indians are because on the one hand their love is overflowing But when you go into like the hatred it can get really really bad. Yeah It's just there's no the great thing is there's no lukewarm. No, there's no lukewarm Not at all. I thought you might have a problem with that too. Now. I threw out whether it's the love story or then it's later on in the rioting what we have thematically threw out is this tension that I know you're gonna feel the same way Whether we were watching it on a smaller level with just their relationship and their families Or we saw it on a larger level in the city with just mobs of people. Yeah, this whole intolerance and violence of people groups against each other because they have different beliefs is mind-numbingly painful to watch At on both levels it's hard to watch and it happens everywhere throughout history, right? It's it's not exclusive to muslims and indians or indians or indians at all. It's universal humans Yep, like to blame another set of humans. Yep For whatever reason but I thought if if if you guys can tell us and I'm assuming it is because this film is so So popular that they did a good job depicting those Times I think so because yeah, so it felt like I was watching at certain parts kind of like black Friday like Documentary almost right especially during the riot part. Well, the important thing to do with it And I think he did a fantastic job is when you're depicting two people groups like this Fighting about each other's beliefs and ideologies, right? Yeah, it's really easy to do two things It's really easy to pick a side. Yeah, and not tell it objectively Yeah, and I don't think he did that I felt like he gave both sides Adequate space and adequate representation so that you could say, you know, I don't agree with you But I understand why you're why that's happened with the the speech by Arvin swammy in the circle. Yeah in a circle when he's telling he's like you stop Stop killing each other basically that speech at the end And that song yeah, and it's on the the whole speech that he was giving Was it at the end? Yeah, it was at the end. Uh-huh. It was also in the middle He had two speeches But his big one is at the end a big one at the end where he was basically telling what probably all the audience is thinking Yeah, essentially, I thought it was great. I thought his performance was great I thought the writing of it was really good and powerful And I didn't there are certain points Yeah, I don't know maybe if this was a non-yorikashi up film that I thought like you kids were gonna get on fire Right or see or like at the end like it was gonna like he was gonna set himself on fire Yeah, or something like that. Yeah Kashiya put it down. Yeah 100% Kids would have been set on fire. Yeah. Yeah, which oh my god. I thought it was gonna happen Yeah, I'm so glad it didn't cuz you know, I like the happy endings. Yeah, and also like the See how what goes to your mind with a group of grown men coming up on children Well, here's here's this mind. I'm assuming that was true because there was entire hospital children Yeah, there's yeah, all my stars. Yes, like how it's it's happening in the world right now Yeah, I mean we just talk about how many children in Syria dying Yeah, it's it's happening everywhere, but I Well, it's it alluded to this in the song He said it in his speech and it brought up that for as much as they have the disagreements and the tensions ideologically and religiously and culturally what's astonishing to me is None of the scriptures whether they are coming from the the Hindu beliefs or from the Koran Unless they're Really interpreted and in a very bizarre way Advocate for the killing of another person. Yeah, and that's pointed out in the songs and it's pointed out in his speech Yeah, and I this may be an unfair comparison, but like for example, there's I checked There's roughly between two and three million Hindus in America between three and four million Muslims, I think that number is low. I bet there's more than that, but the point being is You don't have those kinds of violent outbreaks in the United States between the people groups. Yeah My suspicion is that people who are outside of America would look at them and say well, they're they're not Really practicing Hindus and practicing Muslims if they were the tensions would be greater. I don't know I just know it's heartbreaking and Confounding to me to see differences of belief result in something as atrocious as killing another human being Like the part that one of the parts of broke my heart the most I get emotional thinking about it right now When the grandpa is walking with one of the boys and he sees the Muslims coming and the little boys First instinct is to wipe the stripes off of grandpa's forehead that that for me That whole scene was really good when the other father came and saved them as well Yeah, and said he's one of us brothers He's one of us and that moment of him saying of the Hindu man looking at his the Muslim man and him realizing what he just did and Realizing they've both reached a place where before they wanted to kill each other that they now consider each other family because of the love of These two people I also love the cuteness of the conversation between the two of them and the kids. Yeah, that was a cute Yeah, should I become a Muslim? No, you don't have to and I thought that was adorable. Yeah, and let's talk about a Ramon score What's there to say? I mean, I'm glad because now I can actually listen to this I've just had it here I haven't opened it since we've gotten it because obviously we hadn't watched it Yeah, we didn't want them. I don't want to spoil the songs But man because we've seen what two me two or three I can't remember from this and obviously they were fantastic, but obviously they were even better much better in the phone Yeah, obviously with the context of everything going on. It was just gorgeous. This is and I can see why people consider this and Roja His best. Yeah, I don't I don't know I'd have to sit down and think if I think this is his best or not It's worth it's in the discussion. It's definitely under discussion. I'd have to sit down and look at over and as is I'll tell you I Remember when when he walks into the room with all of the dead people because he's trying to find his boys Yeah, right and all of that all of the Background people that were there doing that work and right now that was the point of the they're showing the riots And it's epic and it's big. I remember thinking as he walked in I remember thinking 1995 Tamil cinema Dang Dang awesome. Yeah Just freaking awesome because that that is something that I would have said for Hindi cinema, which at the time, you know Hindi slash Bollywood has been the internationally known face of Indian cinema. So the lesser known industries I I I genuinely did not know and I'm sure there's a whole lot more that Tamil cinema was making something this epic and this well done on a large scale now that Is I'm just deeply impressed. Yeah deeply impressed. Yeah, everything about the film I thought it was really felt like a classic as you're watching it is it's an instant classic for sure It's one of those that you can just appreciate especially for the time that it came out Yeah, the message it was sending. Yep, the just inequality of the acting directing writing Score everything about it Was really really good and my heart goes out to anybody because I get messages I'm sure you do too. I get messages from stupid babies who are facing this kind of situation I've had long conversations with some who the one girl She's Muslim and the guy is Hindu and just straight up said They don't see how it's gonna work. Not because they're not in love with each other And not because they don't want to make it work but because the pressure they have from their families is so extraordinary and They're they know they have a choice to make it's Each other and never be with your family again because you'll be disowned to the point of you're actually risking your life Or stay connected to family and live It's it's just awful It's just awful if you're a family member of somebody who's doing like if you if you're gonna disown for a religious reason That's just as bad as I came home with a black woman and my family was like no You can't marry somebody of that kind. It's just as stupid and awful I'm sorry You have your own beliefs religious beliefs and you can do what you want to do, but that's discrimination and it's wrong Yeah, it's discriminatory and they're forced Obedience are if you don't like that opinion. Well, it's true because a forced obedience isn't an obedience It's a totalitarian oppression. Yeah, like for my own children There are particular things I would like for them to go do and be and believe in that I've lived my life and discovered Right. Well, if they make choices opposite of what I believe I'm not gonna change my love for them or my acceptance of them Even if I disagree with the direction they're going with their life That's not gonna change my love and acceptance of them because for me and I know you you're at the same thing The highest level expression of any belief system is gonna be the expression of unconditional love Yep, but the moment you start to put rules on it that say I'll love you if The minute you add the f it's become conditional same thing when people disown their children for being gay or right trans or for being whatever Right, it's boggles my mind. Yeah, I I love the line I could never imagine not being in Leland's life because of something he does, right? No, I know or believes Yeah, like if he suddenly had a spiritual belief system that you don't believe is the healthiest thing for you to believe Okay, I trust he's gonna go the direction. He's gonna go that's gonna leave No, and I love the moment he was concerned about the boys and She said Well, he'll be blessed by two gods. Yeah, I thought that was really adorable I thought though everything the riding directing producing the Way up there conversation way up there for me phenomenon Beautiful movie. Let us know what other classics we should react to in Tamil Or the next Tamil film we should watch and any anything that Manisha is in besides still say Because I loved her in this I literally at points couldn't take my eyes off around the screen She did great. My favorite part of this not really He's an idiot. Anyways, let us know what we should watch and review next